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>Jesus Christmas was not blaACK
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If you didn't know, that's the oldest photograph of christ
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>>539355479
Lentulus, the Governor of the Jerusalemites to the Roman Senate and People, greetings. There has appeared in our times, and there still lives, a man of great power, called Jesus Christ. The people call him prophet of truth; his disciples, son of God. He raises the dead, and heals infirmities. He is a man of medium size; he has a venerable aspect, and his beholders can both fear and love him. His hair is of the colour of the ripe hazel-nut, straight down to the ears, but below the ears wavy and curled, with a bluish and bright reflection, flowing over his shoulders. It is parted in two on the top of the head, after the pattern of the Nazarenes. His brow is smooth and very cheerful with a face without wrinkle or spot, embellished by a slightly reddish complexion. His nose and mouth are faultless. His beard is abundant, of the colour of his hair, not long, but divided at the chin. His aspect is simple and mature, his eyes are changeable and bright. He is terrible in his reprimands, sweet and amiable in his admonitions, cheerful without loss of gravity. He was never known to laugh, but often to weep. His stature is straight, his hands and arms beautiful to behold. His conversation is grave, infrequent, and modest. He is the most beautiful among the children of men.
- Letter of Publius Lentullus to Rome
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>>539355479
>thinking the kike on the stick was real at all
embarrassing, really
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>>539355479
A young man, it was said, appeared in Galiee preaching with a noble unction a new law in the name of God who had sent him. At first I was apprehensive that his design was to stir up the people against the Romans, but my fears were soon dispelled. Jesus of Nazareth spoke rather as a friend of the Romans than of the Jews. One day in passing by the place of Siloe, where there was a great concourse of people, I observed in the midst of the group a young man who was leaning against a tree, calmly addressing the multitude. I was told it was Jesus. This I could easily have suspected, so great was the difference between him and those listening to him. His golden-colored hair and beard gave him the appearance of a celestial aspect. He appeared to be about thirty years old. Never have I seen a sweeter or more serene countenance. What a Contrast between him and his hearers, with their black beards and tawny completion!
- Letter of Pontius Pilate to Tiberius Caeser
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>>539355479
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>>539355627
>jesus never existed
it's funny how atheists deny Jesus but don't deny any other ancient historical figures. The first history of Cleopatra came from Plutarch and was written more than one hundred years after her death. There is more written about Jesus in the one hundred years after his death than there is written about Julius Ceasar. Why don't atheists deny Cleopatra or Julius Ceasar existed?
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>>539355627
Here is a list of ancient historical figures whose existence is widely accepted by historians, even though the evidence for them is weaker than the evidence for Jesus of Nazareth when judged by standard historical criteria (number of sources, independence, dating, and hostile attestation).

Figures with Less Evidence Than Jesus

Socrates (469–399 BC)
Sources: Plato, Xenophon, Aristophanes
Weakness: No writings of his own; all sources are followers or literary critics
Still universally accepted as historical

Pythagoras (c. 570–495 BC)
Sources written 200–500 years later
Weakness: No contemporary evidence; heavily legendary material
Accepted as historical with uncertain details

Spartacus (d. 71 BC)
Sources: Plutarch, Appian (decades later)
Weakness: Few sources; all hostile Roman accounts
Accepted as historical

Hillel the Elder (c. 110 BC–AD 10)
Sources: Mishnah and Talmud (compiled centuries later)
Weakness: No contemporary records; religious tradition only
Accepted as historical Jewish teacher

Buddha (Siddhārtha Gautama, c. 5th century BC)
Sources written 300–400 years after his life
Weakness: No contemporary or hostile sources
Majority of scholars accept his existence

Lycurgus of Sparta
Sources: Plutarch (centuries later)
Weakness: Possibly legendary; no contemporary evidence
Often treated as semi-historical

Apollonius of Tyana
Source: Philostratus (3rd century AD)
Weakness: Single late, hagiographic source
Accepted as a real person; miracles rejected

Why Jesus Has Stronger Evidence
Jesus is attested by:
Multiple independent sources
Hostile non-Christian writers (Tacitus, Josephus, Pliny, Lucian)
Early references (within ~20–60 years)
Embarrassing details (crucifixion)

Conclusion: Many ancient figures are accepted as historical with less evidence than Jesus. Rejecting Jesus’ existence while accepting these figures applies an inconsistent historical standard.
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>>539355627
the word kike is in reference to people who hate christ
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>>539355619
>Testimonials from a mentally retarded pedophile fake prophet faggot and a fake letter written in the 19th century
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>>539355746
I deny all historical figures that cannot be proven and jesus cannot be
>>539355802
kike refers to the kikel (circle) that jews made as their mark (signature) when arriving in the usa as most were illiterate but refused to make the traditional mark (an x) because it looked like a cross
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>>539355528
>photograph
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>>539355479
>Jesus Christmas
Who?


>>539355971
>cannot be proven
By what standard? Most figures don't have written records till 100s of years after their deaths.

>>539355528
Doesn't look like a black man. Get your eyes checked.
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>>539355746
That's a bad argument because the answer is material lineage. Entire civilizations were oriented around the rulers and their families which everyone could see and touch, and even today still can. They are not people whose existence we are forced to make speculative arguments about.

That doesn't mean Jesus didn't exist, but comparing him to Pharaohs and Caesars doesn't make much sense.
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Saar
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MAKE ISRAEL BLACK AGAIN
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JESUS CHRISTMAS SAAR
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Strong saar
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>>539356379
>By what standard
“Rank-Raglan Mythic Hero Scale”, which historians and mythicists use this scale to argue that if a person scores too high on the list, they are likely a fictional myth rather than a real historical person. The 22 points are:
1. Mother is a royal virgin
2. Father is a king
3. Father often a near relative to mother
4. Unusual conception
5. Hero reputed to be son of god
6. Attempt to kill hero as an infant, often by father or maternal grandfather
7. Hero spirited away as a child
8. Reared by foster parents in a far cry country
9. No details of childhood
10. Returns or goes to future kingdom
11. Is victor over king, giant, dragon or wild beast
12. Marries a princess (often daughter of predecessor)
13. Becomes king
14. For a time he reigns uneventfully
15. He prescribes laws
16. Later loses favor with gods or his subjects
17. Driven from throne and city
18. Meets with mysterious death
19. Often at the top of a hill
20. His children, if any, do not succeed him
21. His body is not buried
22. Has one or more holy sepulchers or tombs

Jesus Christ scores very high and is therefore almost certainly not real. Interesting, the letters Paul writes mention none of the divinity, not the death, not the resurrection, nothing and that was all written the closest to the supposed time of time of any of the books of the Bible (~30 years).



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