>>539363787So Venezuela was a war but Iran isn't?
>>539363787>Venezuela WAR>Iran special military operationHOLY COPE
4 months? I was told this would be a five week military operation at most.
He thinks war works by golf scoring
>>539363787Wars for Israel: All of them
>>539363787Venezuela war?
>>539363787This enrages the brown liberal nu/pol/ poster.
>>539363787I'm starting to think this guy isn't very honest and just spins shit to support the narratives that he thinks make him look good
>>539363787It’s not a real war unless ground invasion
It’s way more than 18, right? How could they realistically hide the number? How could it possibly be that low?
"if you want your kid to die in some dumb war, vote Democrat"Anyone else remember that pearl? Is JD going to apologize to the parents?
>>539364089The U.S. claims to have captured their President. I think he defected.
>>539363787>mission accomplished!He is so stupid and delusional. I hope Iran gets their revenge.
>>539363787"Bars"
>iran special military conflict
>>539363787Give it time, orange nigger.
18 dead before you've even set foot in iran.doesn't bode well.
>>539364196>How could they realistically hide the number?Training accidents, helicopter crashes, men washed overboard and lost at sea. There's plenty of available cover stories and when you understand that's what they are you start to see them all over the place.
>>539364196>How could it possibly be that low?Trump is unironically the greatest military leader of all time.You lost tranny.
>i only killed 18 americans in 4 months
America has understates the American death count and overstates the enemy death numbers
>>539364220I honestly think that a big part of the War on Terror was a propaganda campaign to normalize the idea that terrorism is abhorrent simply to keep Americans from doing it at home. We now have an entire generation that would never think of killing the children of their enemies despite it being a very effective method of warfare. Just to be clear, I’m not advocating for terrorist actions.
>>539363871>>539363912He needs to fire the ai chatbot that runs his account and the h1b jeet who cobbled it together honestly
>>539363787I take this as explicit confirmation that this war is about to get extraordinarily more costly in American lives.
>>539363787>Venezuela >war>Iran>just a little itty bitty conflictShits not even over yet
>>539363787No one kills US soldiers like we do, folks.
>>539363787So dead soldiers are ok, and he intends to kill more
>>539363787That is insanely disrespectful to the dead zogbots.
>>539364501He talks exactly like this irl.
>>539364444Wow, less than 0.001% of the population.Didn't 18 EU fags die because the weather got too hot and you have no AC? lol
>>539363787>18 deadJust like the Jet-Carrier incapacitated by laundromat fire Lying is murica cultcha at this point.
>>539363787all of those wars only happened under republicanscurious
I legitimately still don't understand why he even started the war.
>lol
>>539364651Stop noticing.
What absolute demons shifting the goal posts
>>539363787Is he claiming he is working on there cause to the jews or what? There is no end to this shit in sight. There is no point in comparing the situations, this one will be infinitely worse. Especially when the israeli military joins the American army.
>>539363787Pathetic, gotta crush those numbers
>>539363787We're playing Team Deathmatch?
>>539363871He means because its an ongoing amd developing conflict we cant rightly classify it yet retard.Its like saying "ongoing military situation"
every major war and recession i've lived through was because of republican controlwhy do people keep doing this
>>539363787Why is the Venezuelan thing a "war", and the Iran bit a "military conflict"?
>>539364645His teleprompters also use chatjeetpt probably
>>539364370
>>539363787>Well, we could go on for years, many years and have many more DEAD, but still they would be really fantastically low DEAD numbers, very low DEAD Americans, some are saying the best DEAD numbers ever
>>539363787Trump is a complete puppet. He's a faggot with a fist up his anus pumping his glans. He's a bottom boy, a cock socket that allows any man to stuff him for a dollar. He thinks the power he feels ripping through his rectum belongs to him and not the one dominating his saggy ass. If the Iranian regime are legitimate and not just faggots like Trump, then they need to call Orange Spread's bluff and take Iraq.>Maintain pressure on Hormuz>Houthis resume strike in Red Sea>Maintain pressure on US allies and military assets>Activate paramilitaries in IraqIt's such an easy win for Iran, but I'm not sure if they have the balls or they just want to bend over and present like Trump does to the Jews.WHY IS EVERYONE SUCH A FAGGOT?
>>539364966Ongoing conflict
>>539363787God this is already aging like wineI'm going to use this image to make so many zogbots kill themselves in a few years, you guys have no fucking idea. This .png looks like an image, but it's actually a graveyard.
>>539363787So if trump hadn't faked a medical issue he could have gone to those other wars and prevented 99,000 deaths?
>>539365095shoulda' posted the joining info
>>539364966Hormuz is a "short excursion".
>>539363787BASED. Irannies and nu/pol/ on suicide watch.
>>539363787
>>539363787...and counting!Seriously though what an unnecessary and strange type of brag>Look my ill-advised and pointless war only got THIS many soldiers killed among all these ill-advised and pointless wars!
Can Trump end the War of Depression and stop the suicides? Let's see what Orange Jesus can pull off in the next two years.
>>539363912>>539364089>>539364526We are at war with Venezuela Trump invoked the alien enemies act against venezualian immigrants, something that can only be done when you are at warTherefore we are at war with Venezuela
>iran's - america 'military conflict'Absolute newspeak just dropped
>>539363787Month 4 of the 2 day Iran military conflict
>>539364660yeah, no one could have predicted the war going any other way than it went, netanyahu threatened trump and trump was mislead about the capabilities of the weapons. every general who sang that song about fort mchenry and the star spangled banner had an obligation to know the non nuclear weapons cant touch the iranian forts and the only reason to mislead the president about the capabilities of the weapons is to put the presidents finger on the nuclear button
>>539364025BINGO
>>539363787The Venezuela war lasted for weeks. There was a blockade, which is an act of war. Technically, the blockade is still in effect; the US forces Venezuela to route all oil payments into the US Treasury in order to be allowed to export oil.
>>539364077bot
>my war killed less than your warWhat kind of person brags about shit like this?
>>539368013It's putting it into perspective. The Iran Kinetic Excursion has resulted in as many American KIAs as an average week in Iraq
>>53936419618 sounds about right, the bases get plenty of warning with the racket the Shasneeds make. People who got hit were too slow to evacuate.
>>539363787>4 months, 18 dead4 months and 18 dead SO FAR...On a funny note, the last time the US officially declared war was 1942. Korea and Vietnam both drafted citizens to fight but never officially declared war.
>>539363787Desperate Donny
>>539363787Okay, and why did those 18 people die?
>>539363787It's either suck Iranian balls or go balls deep into Iran with troops, and boiiii you can not imagine what the numbers would beWith all the distance between the CSG and the target, imagine how easy it would be forsome nasty rogue nation were to come up with a stealth submarine AA drone system that roam the waters, with a master mothership drone making out the targets and slave drones emerging to fire off one or two stingers. Have more than two stingers hunt an aircraft simultaneously and it has a problem. You could easily transport and activate several such drone networks from a single, small commercial submarine. War is retarded, because it's all politics actually. Otherwise Russia would have mercilessly slaughtered Ukraine like the Ukrainians did Volhynia (true Orc fashion) and Iran would actually annihilate a few American ships, because they easily could, but the Iranians know this would consolidate support for DJT.
>>539365210Through my old job I have worked with a ton of military veterans and they all have common traits:>smartest guy in the room or the stupidest fucking gorilla nigger you have ever met>current or former substance abuse problems>mental/emotional instability and unhealthy coping mechanisms for it>a mix of obnoxious pride in their service and deep bitterness for the meaninglessness of itAnd one of them that was normal enough that I became friends with him eventually blew his brains out. 90% of them are like this. It makes me wonder if it's the military causing these problems or if the military actively recruits people with these problems. Probably the former but it's hard to imagine the kinds of things the military does to otherwise normal people to make them like this.
>>539363787Kek Typical white faggot. Claiming victories he had nothing to do with
>>539364179Americans won't launch a ground invasion: there's too many hills for their fatasses to climb.Or they're pussies.
>>539365938Only Congress can declare war. Congress has not declared war.Therefore we are not at war.
>18Anyone else notice how the MAGA narrative has shifted from, "We're just dronestriking sandniggers it's not a war and no one is dying lol" to, "Well only a few Americans are dead it's a small price to pay for Israel".
>>539368836he's conducting an illegal unauthorized war, congress already passed a war act resolution rejecting this operation, he's pretending that since they had a brief cease fire it's somehow a new conflict, which is clearly bullshit.
>>539368679I don’t know about the US’ exact way of doing it but here if you have spent one day in a training establishment and signed on the dotted line, you’re a veteran. This means that prisons are full of “veterans” who were in the Army in the 80s for five minutes and got kicked out, or were arrested for a serious crime during training then have been in jail since. It means you end up with millions of veterans that skews any data massively. I’m a veteran and, on paper, I’ve seen four wars. Gulf War, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan, Iraq Again. Never fired a shot at anyone. Never got shot at. I could take all my records and get, very easily, a PTSD diagnosis. The whole system is fucked uptldr never zog
>>539368679Thank goodness zog can't get White Men anymore, it's no wonder that can't win any wars.
>>539363787He actually truthed this. What a maroon
>>539363787>I achieved none of my goals and only made Iran more important>but at least we are not dying by the thousandsThe american victories...
>>539370017>estimated 700 deaths by neutral sources
>>539369376I'm not a vet but from what I understand, committing a crime or otherwise getting kicked out will get you dishonorably discharged which is a black mark that makes it hard for you to get a job. I think they've moved away from this more recently and changed it to "other than honorable discharge" which also isn't great.That said yeah it's extremely easy to get disability benefits in the US military. My field of work is very outdoors-based with a lot of hiking and carrying heavy loads, and every single vet willing to share told me they were considered some percentage disabled with the majority being 100% disabled despite being completely physically able to do the job. Maybe it was for how mentally fucked up they were, I dunno. Some of them deserved the benefits (one guy had a big scar on his head so I gave him the benefit of the doubt for being such a retard) but a common trait I forgot in my last post is a tendency to be frivolous spenders because of all of the armybux they get and thus having money issues.
>>539363787All of those had approval from congress but he last two
>>539363787>At least my stupid war isn't as deadly (for Americans)!That doesn't make it any less stupid or absurdly expensive with no tangible goal. Just bizarre that this is the best argument he can come up with as the fucking CiC.Any conservative who ever gave a shit about the honor of the military should have never given this jackass a single thought.
So Trump is bragging about this war being almost as bad as Afghanistan?
>>539363787What about that "what happened in venezuela wasn't a war" thing?
>>539363787So he’s saying he’s just getting started? Is that right?
>>539369741Some of the soldiers killed in the current shpeshiul mwilitwary opewation were white americans.White american sionist goys are the biggest supporters of Israel.Huuuh?
>>539364649Wtf is this?
>>539364421me when i'm 5 years old and think Trump is the first and only president to have ever existed
>>539371049American goy who refused to die for Israel.
>>539370992>Some of the soldiers killed in the current shpeshiul mwilitwary opewation were white americans.>lowercase w>you're totally allowed to be Whites while serving zog bro!!!!!!!!!!your shits all messed up and you sound like a fag, post better next time
>>539363787don't threaten me with a good time don
>>539363787This is like something out of a very heavy-handed black comedy.
>>539363787What went through Orange Epstein's head before hitting "post"?
>>539371214Not a bullet, unfortunately. Poor kid almost made history.
>>539363980Any military effort is doomed the instant a timeline is announced to the public. >but muh military victory Seems this is an economic war, whoops.
>>539364840The thing is that a one-day assault would actually qualify as a "special military operation" more than a full-blown "war".
>>539371094That’s not clever or funny. I don’t want to hurt your feelings but a toddler with down syndrome could come up with a better joke.
>>539363787So when did the Iraq war end? I thought we were still at war Iraq.
>>539363787Why start the war at all though if you care about deaths
>>539363980Just two more weeks goy.
>>539371447Assblasted
>>539371214not much. dementia patients have greatly reduced brain activity
>>539364651To be fair Johnson did most of the escalation.
>>539363787He is bragging that the war Israel ordered America get involved with got 18 americans killed?
>>539363787>"At least my 3 day special military operation hasn't gone on for 20 years yet"This is how you know there's nobody pulling his strings because even his half dead dementia peers in the senate can figure out this framing is not a winner.
Hot dog its time to enlist, free money with no riskNo.Risk.
>>539369376>“veterans” who were in the Army in the 80s for five minutes and got kicked out, or were arrested for a serious crime during training then have been in jail sinceFalse and copium from a bong at that.
>>539371749i'm White and this sound great, better get to it
>>539363787And not a single one of those deaths did anything to advance American interests.
>>539371710
>>539364150Have you learned anything about the homosexual jew Roy Cohn yet?
>>539363787god bless iran. at this rate, if the us stays in iran for 20 years it will be 1080 dead american soldiers. mind you afghanistan was taliban with limited resources and weaponry. it was also 2 trillion in war costs, just to maintain a few outposts. iran will be the COMPLETE bankruptcy of the USA. the fact that Trump cocksuckers can’t understand this is hilarious
>>539371761Hey faggo, wanna take off the swede flag? nobody here is impressed, and we aren't about to start attacking swedish people and culture over youYou should fuck off
>>539371710This one hits right in the testi-feels.The Iranian Special Military Operation is not what I voted for, bros...
>>539368354In the modern day of wars we actually give 2-3 days notice before we bomb a place in an act of common courtesy.
>>539363787This kike sockpuppet is talking like the iran thing is over
18 dead (and counting!) to stop a nuke that didn't exist and to open a strait that wasn't closed
>>539363787What point is he even trying to make? I guess he’s doing his best to appear concerned about casualties? He thinks of people like money and he thinks of money as points in a game. Donald Trump is incapable of caring about other people.
>>539371823>>539371875What's scary is he was mostly true to his word in his 1st term. But in the past year or so, he's gone off the rails with foreign intervention, and threats of foreign intervention (Greenland/Iceland?). It's not what any of us voted for. What happened to his schtick about Obama being a menace for being a warmonger etc?
>>53936378718 dead in a "conflict" that hasn't accomplished anything except make gas prices higher is still too many.
>>539368836Tell that to the dead people and see if it brings them back to life.
>>539372163gollly i wonder what TRUMP's gonna decide to do next, i sure hope TRUMP doesn't lose this war, because of TRUMP loses this war, the US government will have to get a new nigger to lose warsi sure wish I could figure what TRUMP wants and needs and likes and dislikes, that surely effects the country. the federal government is strong!
>>539372163GOP-niggers kept saying that "voting for Kamala means voting for war"Then turned around and supported the Nigger in Chief in going to war.When it started I thought him shit-talking Canada was funny. But then Canadians actually did something about it by boycotting US goods and travel to US (and good on those fuckers for finding their spine). But then it kept getting worse.The fucking WALL isn't even finished yet. This orange pedo fuck keeps bouncing from one initiative to the next and never delivers.
>>539363787i thought the Venezuelan one wasn't a war? or is he acting like he won a great war or something?
>>539372503He's going to declare himself as the only president who has won 2 wars or something. Maybe 3 if he bombs Cuba.
>>539363787>muh special military operationtopfugginzozzle get a load of this goy
>>539364196They used to group together people from the same place so they had something in common. Brotherhood and such. They will do the same thing with race further back. Nowadays to the best of my knowledge this is not done. So if a whole body of soldiers is BTFO you have one person in whatever region who lost someone and not a small town full of people who lost their boys plural. I think it's much easier for them to manage one grieving family (the same way they manage the public statements of the grieving families of victims of diversity attacks, I'd imagine).
>>539363787Afghan War: JEW WARIraq War: JEW WARVietnam War: JEW WARKorean War: not sureIran Wan: JEW WAR
>>539363787Imagine being the parent of one of those 18 dead and seeing your country's president using your own child as a statistical example of a loss that isn't that bad kek
>>539363787>every example is called a war except iranBoots are 100% hitting the ground by next year. Clearly we have not been humiliated enough yet.
>>539363787>the Great Patriotic One Day Venezuelan War>another war victory for the US >undefeated in wars/conflicts/SMOs >so much winning
>>539364840>He means because its an ongoing amd developing conflict we cant rightly classify it yetNo, he means Congress is attempting to put a halt to his current fiasco, and if he calls it a "War" publicly it just adds impetus.
>>539363787heem right thohes literally doing what the neocons plotted doing for like 30yrs, at a fraction of the cost, and without even committing ground troops. dubyah must feel like the biggest dumbest faggot in the entire world
>>539374500>A lot has happened in the half year since U.S. Special Forces kidnapped President Nicolás Maduro of Venezuela and his wife, Cilia Flores, but if you can think back that far you might recall that the Trump administration insisted the mission wasn’t an invasion; it was an “extradition.” It was a legal matter, that is, to be followed by a criminal trial. Many legal scholars, commentators and government officials lined up to endorse that choice as lawful, despite Venezuela’s immediate insistence to the contrary. But when Mr. Maduro’s case next makes its way to court, on July 22, federal prosecutors could encounter one rather significant obstacle: Our courts don’t have the authority to handle his case. And the law that says so was signed by the United States of America.>If the United States honors its agreement, it could well be forced to release its prized captive.>The reason dates back to the first decades of the 20th century, when a topic that seems dry and legalistic today — international arbitration — was an exciting and idealistic cause, championed as a modern, rational tool of justice with the power to change the world.
>>539363787is he bragging about killing 18 americans?
>>539374667>Well, there sure are “differences between the contracting parties” today. The government of Venezuela is playing along with the Trump administration when it comes to oil exports, but it has publicly insisted that Mr. Maduro’s capture was illegal under international law — and that would include the extradition treaty.>A dispute of this nature should clearly trigger the 1922 treaty’s arbitration clause. According to its stipulations, Judge Alvin Hellerstein, who is overseeing Mr. Maduro’s trial, must suspend the proceedings and send the matter to a panel of independent evaluators to examine the treaty and decide whether it has been honored. Should the arbitrators conclude that Mr. Maduro’s capture violated the treaty, the United States would be required to release him.>Does it sound far-fetched? The Supreme Court has affirmed the principle again and again in cases spanning more than a century.>The first was in 1886, when the justices ruled that the prosecution of William Rauscher, who had been extradited from Britain, had violated the terms of the two nations’ extradition treaty, because the charges on which he was tried were not the same as those for which he was handed over. Thanks to the court’s insistence that the prosecution had to conform to the treaty, Rauscher prevailed.>aThe second was in 1927, when no less an authority on the matter than former President Taft — by then the chief justice — weighed in on the fate of some British men who had been arrested on the high seas. In this case he ruled against the crew, but he took time to affirm that, despite the prosecution’s claim to the contrary, “the right of the court” to hold foreign defendants “for trial” was indeed dependent on the treaty between the two nations.
>>539370954You lost, dummy. We won. The US is BASED, WHITE, and TRAD. And you're NOT BASED, you're NOT TRAD, and your BROWN.
>>539374749>A third instance was in a 1992 case in which a Mexican citizen and resident was kidnapped at the request of the Drug Enforcement Administration and taken to Texas, with the intent to try him in federal court. The question of whether his prosecution would be valid went all the way to the Supreme Court, where the justices allowed it — but reinforced the principle in United States v. Rauscher: A defendant “may not be prosecuted in violation of the terms of an extradition treaty.”>In each of these varied cases, the message was the same: When interests clash over the scope of an extradition treaty, the first step is to examine carefully the intent of those who signed the treaty. In those three cases, the treaty in question allowed the court to perform that examination. The treaty with Venezuela, however, gives that responsibility to arbitrators.>The trial cannot legally proceed without this step.
>>539374795>Once the arbitrators have the Maduro case, the next step would be for them to determine whether Mr. Maduro’s kidnapping and extradition were lawful by the terms of the 1922 treaty.>Because treaty interpretation is a rarefied branch of the law, with different rules than might apply in individual countries, I wanted to learn exactly how these international arbitrators would handle the case. I asked Steven Ratner, one of the nation’s leading experts in this arena. He told me that unless otherwise directed, arbitrators would follow something known as the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties, and, in addition to considering laws that have developed between the two countries since that time, would scrutinize the treaty in terms of “the relevant rules of international law of 1922.” Those rules, adopted in the immediate aftermath of World War I, uniformly and emphatically condemned the invasion of one sovereign state by another.>It is hard to imagine that any arbitrator acting in that spirit would declare a dead-of-night kidnapping lawful under the treaty, especially since the target was a head of state.
>>539374860>The operation is already in violation of international law; any attempt by the United States to sidestep arbitration would make it blatantly illegitimate by the United States’ own laws, too.>Whatever the outcome of arbitration, it is that process that will give legitimacy to the case, vindicate the principles of international law and in that way reduce the potential for future conflict between the two nations — an outcome that might frustrate President Trump, but which would have greatly pleased Mr. Taft, Mr. Wilson and Mr. Bryan.
>>539363787but trump, the US hasn't been at war since WWIIthey have all been "military conflict" tier
>>539363787>chickenshit cowards hiding in a green-zone thousands of miles away still get touched Oof
tl:dr Maduro is very likely to be released, and how convenient that his regime is still in power in Venezuela. Probably the first thing he'll do when he's back is launch a suit for billions of $$ against the US government.
>>539364966because america wins all its wars
>>539363787>VenezuelaLMAOThat's like beating up a kindergartener and calling it a fight
>>539363787>4 monthsit's actually 5 months now, and he said it was only 2 days.
>>539371631Geniuses abound
>>539371049>>539371094>>539364649A Jew who allegedly killed herself by stabbing herself 30 times in the backbut was actually killed by another Jew.
>>539364651Fucking kekShareblue shills have largely dissolved over the years but democrat shills have only increasedAnyone even mentioning the republicans or conservatives at this point is a biden/kamala tier shill trying to boost youth support for their party of literal faggotsI suggest you kill yourself nigger
>>539376972is it wrong tho?
>>539363787>venzuela war 0 deadi thought he discombobulated them
>>539364242>be dictator of your own country>defect to america to live out your life in jaili don't think that's how it works
>>539368828US has way more mountain soldiers than Canada
>>539379194The Goy-beam did the job perfectly
>>5393642802 more weeks
>>539376972>heh, learn to recogonize patterns, idiot, black people commit waaay more cri->NO, NOT THOSE PATTERNS, NOOOOO YOUR NOT SUPPOSED TO LOOK FOR PATTERNS IN WHAT POLITICAL PARTY CAUSES WAAAAAAARRR NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>539363787only 18 dead goyim on israel's altarrookie numbers drumpfget the fuck back to work
