https://x.com/aviationbrk/status/2079641456063791497
Boeing has a huge order backlog, same as Lockheed does with the F-35. Too many customers.
>>539364162Plane sales isn't fucking politics you god damn nigger.
>>539364568Trump will have something to say about that.
>>539364278Because the industry is too small to cope with increasing demand. Otherwise everyone would have switched to Airbus, but they have every more orders than Boeing.
>>539364162Based. Imagine if everyone started holding companies responsible for breaking promises.
>>539364162Saar, please reconsider... hindu designs are THE BEST! Good work take time, please wait a little longer.
>>539364568It is when you're the retards who'll be paying Boeing for all their upcoming losses.Socialism works when politicians deem you too big to fail.
How can they be obsolete? Airliners have barely changed at all since the late 50s and have absolutely no change since the the early 70s. Even the newest 737 is still half made out of 707 parts.
>>539365278Avionics, safety features, newer materials. Planes evolve continuously.
>>539364162>country that extensively uses jeet labor complains about jeet made productsPottery
>>539365278Planes from even 10 years ago are like 15% less efficient than new models
>>539365469Just like cars, a bunch of useless shit keeps being added making everything worse. This "innovation" keeps the shareholders happy and the company growing.
>>539364162If it's Boeing, I ain't going. Those MAX crashes were all due to outsourcing to Pajeets by the way, and Boeing never got in any criminal trouble for it
based, fuck your jewish garbage.
>>539364162people still fly with boeing?
>>539364162jeets will be more than happy to take them
>>539365716Boeing plead guilty. Why do so many people have so many incorrect beliefs when google exists?
>>539365278Airbus was forced to invest in fuel efficient engine designs and European airlines forced to buy them as part of the Paris Climate Agreement. Trump withdrew us from that ten years ago. Boeing was allowed to make bigger, less efficient engines because oil was cheap with the idea they'd make bigger 777s. Now the Iran War has thrown all this into the toilet. 1:1 Airbus planes are 30-40% more efficient than their equivalent Boeing plane.Boeing's only confirmed customers are ANA, KAL and LOT. UAL and AAL cannot afford the 777-9 and even if they could, Boeing being exempted from FAA safety rules means their planes cannot get affordable American insurance policies. Trump's deals with Boeing have probably killed them.
>>539366168Boeing plead guilty to using jeets, yes.Boeing was also exempted from any consequences beyond a fine.Boeing has still used H1-Bs for work, along with their New Delhi Design Center.Trump has issued more H1-Bs to Boeing.Boeing is jeeted. Probably the most jeeted company.
Nothing to see here
>>539364162Well, time for america to pressure them into buying.
>>539364568You’re right we need more Indian hate and troon threads, now that’s politics
>>539366342>1:1 Airbus planes are 30-40% more efficient than their equivalent Boeing planeA350 is not "30-40% more efficient" than a 787. Only a retard would believe something like that.>Boeing being exempted from FAA safety rulesSource.
>>539364162Boeing hired a bunch of niggers iirc and made a big show of it. They went woke, they deserve to fail and go under
>>539364568Why is it always burgers with the nigger-tier posts?
>>539365583Flying gets safer all the time and updating the aircraft is a big part of that. Watch an aircraft crash investigation documentary some time.
>>539364162>Obsolete before useOh don't be retarded. If you've flown on a plane in the last decade most of them you flew on were built in the 80s.
>>539364162Former Boeing contractor here. These aircraft are designed to have a thirty (30) year service life. There is nothing "obsolete" about them. Aircraft get modified and upgraded constantly throughout there decades of use, whether that's replacing the entire interior or adding new equipment. It's ALL modular and designed to be swapped in and out for repairs or upgrades.>repeated delays stemming from design modificationsSounds like Emirates could have stopped submitting change requests every few weeks so that Boeing could finish off the aircraft and deliver them.If Emirates wants the absolute latest upgrades to the airframes then they can resubmit their order . . . and get in line and wait through the backlog.
>>539364948pretty much, I wouldn't fly boing in current year, but Airbus can't make enough to fill the market
>>539364568>Plane sales isn't fucking politics you god damn nigger.LOL. Political calculations almost always go into which source to buy from. Does the UAE want to curry favor with the U.S. or with Europe? Is China pissed off at Trump resulting in order cancellations and a switch to Airbus, or have they negotiated a new trade deal which will make them announce buying a hundred Boeings? Will RyanAir piss off its Bongistani masters by buying a 737 instead of an A321 because they can get a better deal from Boeing, or will they toe the line and buy a shitty plane to keep jobs in Europe?I wouldn't be even slightly surprised if this little tantrum is because of Orange Idiot's Iran tantrum that keeps causing the UAE to get droned.
>>539364162How dare they deny the boejeets!
>>539368039For those who prefer reading to watching a video, admiral cloudberg is excellent:https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/Detailed analysis of crashes and the safety upgrades they led to.
>>539365716>Those MAX crashes were all due to outsourcing to Pajeets by the wayUnfortunately that's not the case. The poos faithfully implemented what Boeing's design team told them to implement. The fault was with Boeing's fucking idiot design team that created a single point of failure (SPOF) by relying on a single sensor to determine angle-of-attack instead of using BOTH FUCKING SENSORS ALL THE TIME and throwing an alert when the two sensors disagreed. It was an absolutely fucking retarded decision on Boeing's part and that decision was NOT made by the cowshit-eaters.You want proof? Just look at what the "fix" for the problem was -- using both fucking sensors and implementing a "disagree" fault procedure.
>>539364278That's not the problem, it's because the 777x took so long to certify due to Boeing's fuckups that the earliest ones are too old and airlines don't want them.
>>539364278I'm sure it had nothing to do with pic related, you Jew shill
>>539366168Boeing didn't face criminal charges for openly murdering the two whistleblowers, and you're a Jew shill.
>>539369033Iirc Boeing implemented a software solution to an engineering problem. The bigger engines on the Max altered the centre of gravity of the plane. The software told the plane to nose down on takeoff because it thought the plane was unbalanced and shouldn't be nose up. Boeing failed to inform the pilots they could disable this software "fix" so the pilots were fighting the software that wanted nose down. What a fuck up.
Maybe Boeing might change things around after Airbus takes them out back and rapes their sales for another 10 years. You'd have to pay me to board a 737 MAX
>>539368746>I wouldn't fly boing in current yearGreat, I'll take your seat. Boeing's 777 series are the safest jetliners in the world, bar none. They've only had eight total crashes, less than six of which were due to anything engineering-related, most of which resulted in zero fatalities. Almost the entire body count of 542 people came from MH-17 being shot down by the fucking Russians (298) combined with MH370 being disappeared by a suicidal pilot (239). Three more were killed by the morons flying Asiana 214 who were so busy chatting that they didn't bother to land the airplane. That leaves two (2) total people killed in 31 years by anything that could even remotely be linked to Boeing's engineering.The work that I did for Boeing is on every single 777 and helps to keep you safe. You don't have to suck my dick, but you can at least not be an asshole.
>>539364162>$1.7M per planeNo wonder they're shit
>>539369305Yes, that is correct. But the "why did it fuck things up" is as I described -- the absolutely fucking stupid reliance on a single sensor to enforce flight-critical attitude control.
>>539364162yeah the planes are also full of malware in the avionics. They allow the planes to be remotely hijacked and crashed, for so-called counter terrorism purposes
>>539369512The image states that Emirates was paying US$440M each. Did you not drink enough cow urine this morning to wake yourself up?
>>539366839>Indian hate>.>
>>539369399I don't think you can get paid by boing for shilling here jeet.
>>539369790He'll end up dead in a ditch for being a whistleblower anyway.
>>539369531Using both sensors wouldn't necessarily have solved the problem. If the sensors disagree, which one do you believe? There have been cases where three pitots disagree and either the pilot acts upon the wrong one, or the software disregards one of the readings, or averages them out. Either way, pilots can be dumb and they make the situation worse by panicking or just ignoring a critical adverse reading. Air France lost a plane when the pilot overcorrected to the point of stalling due to ice in the pitot.
>>539369305Stab Cutout switches remained in the same place they always were and functioned the same. That's why only Indonesia and fucking Ethiopia crashed- their pilots relied too heavily on automation and did not follow well established procedure to use the stab cutout switches during uncommanded horizontal stabilizer movement. Yes it was also Boeing's fault but the blame really is 50/50 Boeing and brown incompetent pilots. Of course the entire media pushed to shift the blame fully away from those poor brown pilots and you fell for it.
>>539368514Good luck getting anyone to listen. Definitely don't tell them that a Cessna for the 60s are over 100k to buy used. And it's not because they're a classic!
lol
>>539364278>Boeing has a huge order backlogthis is a good thing for america, no? trump should be working with boeing and other aerospace engineering firms to ramp up manufacturing
>>539369930>Using both sensors wouldn't necessarily have solved the problem. If the sensors disagree, which one do you believe?It absolutely would have, because the only thing that needed to be done was for the MCAS system to NOT force the aircraft into a stall by ramming the elevator to maximum deflection. If the MCAS had been using two sensors, then it would say "oops they disagree, I'd better not fuck with the elevator pitch" instead of saying "HERE COMES THE ROLLERCOASTER RIDE!!!"And you can tell instantly that I am right about this because THAT'S THE FIX THAT WAS ACTUALLY IMPLEMENTED AND IT WORKS FINE.>>539369790Butthurt Orban supporter detected.
>>539364568This is another example of Boeing mismanagement. This then becomes political if you take this example to be reflective of a broader change in american business caused by the political/regulatory/cultural environment in the US.For example, newly graduated MBAs are rusting this US company - perhaps they'll rust other companies and ultimately weaken the US as a military superpower
>>539370111Homebuilts are the way to go nowadays. You can put together a Kitfox for (checks google, HOLY SHIT) $70K (wow WTF happened to prices!!!).
>>539364162BUT THEY GOT A HECCIN NEW UNION CONTRACT.It's almost like the union is to give jobs to retarded niggers and let them be lazy as fuck all day.
>>539370304sorry, you need those factories to build planes and munitions for your WARFIGHTERS
>>539370382>For example, newly graduated MBAs are rusting this US companyIt's not the newly graduated ones, it's the entire debacle of letting McDonnell-Douglas beancounters take over the company after the "buyout". Phil Condit really fucked that one up. McD ran itself into the ground because it was run by beancounters instead of engineers, and now those same beancounters have done the same to Boeing.
>>539364162>president of emirates>sir tim clarkman, that was really confusing for a second there>>539365565well, they know what to expect, eh?
>>539369930>Air France lost a plane when the pilot overcorrected to the point of stalling due to ice in the pitotAF 447.Airbus should have learned from the CIA-quality engineering in the TWA800 747-300 - the CIA insists that even with the entire nose of the 747 blown off and no control inputs at all the plane still managed to climb another 4,000 ft!That's AMERICAN aerodynamics! Fuck yeah!
>>539370579>McDonnell-Douglas beancountersMac McDonnell himself lamented that buying Douglas was the worst decision he ever made.
Should have bought embraer
