Can they please coup the EU like they do to thirdies?Like literally no one would actually mind if ursula was bombed.
>>539385651>Can they please coup the EU like they do to thirdies?Aren't they literally doing that already? I thought that was the reason the EU was this neoliberal hell hole in the first place.
>>539385651>umm can someoneMaybe first try it yourself before asking someone for help, you just sound lazy
>>539385652No?the eu cucks out to america willingly and the leaders themselves are literally neoliberal ghouls out of their volition and gain.
>>539385651Ursula is already their puppet nigga, like all germans
>>539385654>No?Yes>the eu cucks out to america willinglyPretty sure the post-war strategy the US had for Europe was to make us entirely dependent on the US, especially wrt trade and defense.
>>539385652yes, we made you make 80% of your judges, politicians and other worthless bureaucrats women who are destroying everything in their path with retarded good intentions
>>539385657>weYou're a cletus filling shelves at walmart
Finally some honesty from Yurop
>>539385658No, I'm a Wasp at my families beach house in the Hamptons.
>>539385651they couped europe after world war 2, and then again after fall of soviet union. do you honestly think you are not under american occupation right now?
>>539385657See >>539385656You deliberately made Europeans your sissies. You actively discouraged European countries to become too independent of each other. You forced European countries into a defense alliance so we would buy only American weapons. You intervened in European wars and bombed the shit out of the Balkans because they didn't align with your vision. You retaliate with tariffs and taxes whenever European countries try to regulate American Big Goytech companies. You actively interfere in European elections. You fucking shaped this continent after your neoliberal ideals after WW2.
Ursula is a puppet of whever pays the most just like Merkel. We just have to get them on morphine and deconstruct them piece by piece cartel style and remove all women and liberals from the EU aparatus, ask pope for forgiveness for being secular degenerate societies, promise correction and ask for mandate of heaven. Then we make society patriarchal, ban all contraception and abortion and make a retirement system based on children to parent funding. We decentralize, make scholar and business villages, the city center colonizing the outskirts so that everyone anywhere with the cheapest housing, has all they need to start a family where they are, and we incentivise large families with a code of dual purpose marketing. If you disagree, think again.
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>>539385664See, Europe is shaped after American values just like I said.
>>539385656>entirely dependent on the US, especially wrt trade and defenseIt was and it succedded.But that has nothing to do with the eu being the way it is.Aside from an economically strong unified europe able to resist communism america didnt care about the rest.
>>539385651Why would they coup their own puppets?If the EU was lead by someone who jsut came out to the media and said something along the lines of>From now on everythign American will be banned from the EU. No clothing, no movies will be shown in theaters, no music will be allowed to listen. No american cars will be imported, mcadonald's, burger king, colca and all food and drink from USA will be shut down, made ilegal to operate inside EU border. And we will also shut down from the internet and establish an intranet networkI'll garantee you, the following day, it woudl be D-Day 2.0
>>539385666>But that has nothing to do with the eu being the way it is.It has everything to do with that. The EU is literally shaped after the neoliberal doctrines and values, per Friedman, Stiglitz and Samuelson.
>>539385662stop talking like that or i'm going to cum
Who’s going to be Europe’s Marco Rubio?
>>539385662>wahhh wahhh I’m a weak little victim
>>539385662you destroyed all of your defense contractors, most of you destroyed nuclear power operations, you said to let the brown hordes into Europei had nothing to do with it
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>>539385668Yes and they adopted those ideas willingly lets say america completely withdraws from europe? What actually changes? You think ursula would be gone? You think they'll suddenly start caring about europeans? You think theyll stop importing rapefugees? End globohomo?
>>539385671I’m just saying that what OP is asking for already is the case. Europe is as much a US vassal state as any of the Latin American countries the US regularly use the CIA to overthrow governments in. Different tactics, same end result.
>>539385672Actually that was all GERMANY
>>539385656nigga EUROPE WANTED THATi fucking hate hearing you guys pretend like you have no agency or will of your own, your people SOLD YOU OUT to usyou sound like a fucking thirdie
>>539385672We never had «defense contractors» the term in itself is an oxymoron and only the US has these. In European countries all defense companies are nationalised. Only Germany were retarded enough to end their nuclear programmes and I’m actually pretty convinced that was because the US in the 2000s lobbied extremely hard for them to make ports adapted to receive American LNG and that was, at least originally, on the table. And brown hordes. Please nigga, no country has destabilised the Middle East as much as you have. Your lapdog Israel are actually actively deporting browns to Europe
I'm so sick of you eurocuck bitchass faggot bitch sissy white boy porcelain BBC reciever nucler dismantling whining baby gay porn stars cum guzzling bitch faggot sissy curry shit nugget eating we wuzzing third world importing never protesting for the right things losers.
>>539385674What happens is that the EU collapses. So yes it will change. >>539385677No YOU wanted this. On our expense. Because you’re demonic greedy fucks. All the culture war shit always originates from the US because you’re soulless demonic golems
>>539385680>you wanted itnigga your countries literally begged daddy eisenhower to protect you from le heckin evil soyviets o algoit’s your grandfathers’ generation’s fault
>>539385681Yeah it’s not like Europe was in ruins because Anglos and their axis of evil decided to firebomb every single European city or anything.
>>539385680
>>539385651anon have you followed the news in the past 5 months?
>>539385682nigga your country begged america and britain to firebomb the germans WHILE ALSO BOMBING THEM YOURSELVES HAHA
>>539385678>We never had «defense contractors» the term in itself is an oxymoron and only the US has these. In European countries all defense companies are nationalised. One of the reason america stays in nato is because europe buying military gear is economically beneficial to america.>Only Germany were retarded enough to end their nuclear programmes and I’m actually pretty convinced that was because the US in the 2000s lobbied extremely hard for them to make ports adapted to receive American LNG and that was, at least originally, on the table.It was just german greens party retardation nothing to do with americans.>And brown hordes. Please nigga, no country has destabilised the Middle East as much as you have. Your lapdog Israel are actually actively deporting browns to EuropeAnd who took them in huh? Did america force the eu leaders and coubtries to take them in? No they did it out of their volition because they wanted to take them in.
>>539385651No>>539385652No that's your wound collecting schizophrenic lack of accountability obsession, you were the ones who culturally insinuated Marxism onto us not the other way around, you dumb bitch
>>539385680>What happens is that the EU collapses. So yes it will change.No it wont you're a delusional retard.>culture war shit always originates from the US And our retarded progressives slurp it up and adopt it all on their own.
>>539385686> Did america force the eu leaders and coubtries to take them in? No they did it out of their volition because they wanted to take them in.Retard, do you know which country started the UN? There’s a reason the UN headquarters are in New York you know. Every time you peek behind the curtains there is an American with a Jewish last name. EverySingleFucking Time
>>539385678HE WARNED THE GERMOIDS
>>539385687>the eu is MarxismThe bush era no child left behind education system severely failed you, I see.
>>539385656Our strategy was giving you free shit to rebuild yourself (or just straight up rebuilding you depending on the country) and letting you scaffold off our stable dollar, you ended up never putting in the work and sitting around bitching that we screwed you like an ungrateful alcoholic abusive uncle backbiting the nephew he lives off, you disgraceful niggers.
>>539385689>EU = UNEuro education
>>539385689started the UN? There’s a reason the UN headquarters are in New York you know. Every time you peek behind the curtains there is an American with a Jewish last name. You can just refuse the un has no power.Where does all this delusion come from? Are you just a paid actor or zigger causing division? Why do tou refuse to hold the eu leaders accountable?
>>539385692If you believe your plan didn’t pay off then why do you sperg out every time we try to make our own weapons and fighter jets instead of buying American or everything we try to regulate the goytech companies? You clearly are benefiting a great deal from being our primary trading and defense go to.
>>539385693Refugee quotas is a UN thing retard
>>539385696The un cant enforce anything retard.
I did this
>>539385694> You can just refuse the un has no powerTell that to Serbia. > Why do tou refuse to hold the eu leaders accountable?They’re complicit but they’re just fucking marionettes you retard. Replacing them with someone even more US aligned will literally make everything even worse. More of the neoliberal globohomo bullshit, but with even more untamed capitalism.
>>539385697Tell that to Serbia.
>>539385671Don't bring Apu into this, you sick bastard.
>>539385698To be fair, us tech companies pushing tablets in every school, for every school kid, world wide is pretty much the real culprit here. The US actually has the exact same problem, reading and maths skills severely dropping ever since schools started overrelying on tablets and computers.
>>539385702the wealthy schools here ban tablets and use pen and paper, only the plebs use tablets
>>539385700Just don't commit a genocide and you won't have to worry about ending up like Serbia. :)
>>539385703Its pretty telling that all the tech moguls, from thiel to gates to musk to zucc, they all limit screen time for their children. Its almost as if they know its unhealthy.
>>539385699>Tell that to SerbiaAgain the un didnt do anything america did.America wasnt going to enforce the eu to take in refugees in any situation never have never would've.>They’re complicit but they’re just fucking marionettesThey'd act the same no matter if they had strings or not>Replacing them with someone even more US aligned will literally make everything even worse. More of the neoliberal globohomo bullshit, but with even more untamed capitalismDid you actually take the premise of the thread seriously you fucking retard?
>>539385704Israel is committing genocide right now and you don’t have a problem with that. You only care in certain scenarios, I.e., when a non-ally is trying to gain more independence. Thats why you supported Pinochet and Videla while you bombed Milosovic
>>539385707So this is a zigger now it all makes sense.
>>539385706> Again the un didnt do anything america did.I don’t think Serbia cares if the helmets were Globohomo blue or Globohomo green. > America wasnt going to enforce the eu to take in refugees in any situation never have never would've.The US literally told European countries / nato countries to take in Bosnian refugees bro. > They'd act the same no matter if they had strings or notThe difference is that without strings they wouldn’t have any power. > Did you actually take the premise of the thread seriously you fucking retard?Ah,the classic «I was only pretending to be retarded»
>>539385651>can USA coup the EUDo you guys have oil? INorway isnt in the EU so they dont count
>>539385708Im not a zigger you retarded pekka. That being said I do hope that russia decides to test NATO’s credibility by doing a little hybrid war in Finland and the baltics soon, it will be pretty hilarious to see the entire alliance just collapse and prove that Trump was right all along.
>>539385707>Israel is committing genocide right now and you don’t have a problem with thatWait till you found out about our epic collab we had going with Saudi Arabia in Yemen or how we funded FSA jihadists and technically ISIS to commit war crimes against Druze and YazidisBLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GODFORESKINS FOR THE FORESKIN THRONE
>>539385711God, Finland and the Baltic states would be so fucked. The Finns would at least put up a fight, im pretty sure the Baltics would just lube their assholes up and prepare for entry
>>539385712Actually your support of Saudi bombing the yemenites cause a minor scandal here because you sold them Norwegian-made nato bombs and we have a policy that we don’t sell to countries that either take part in a conflict or might sell to a third party that take part in a conflict. Then our conservative politicians reminded everyone that our nato alliance is pretty much dependent on the US and yada yada yada. Then the Ukraine war happened and we just stopped caring about that principle anyway and decided to become more pragmatic and most people agreed except the far right that is still seething that we donate military equipment to the Ukrainians.
>>539385651>coup the EUthey should worry about couping their own country first
>>539385715>CIA coups executive branch and install Joseph "totally one of the goys" Goldberg as dictator for life Yeah I dont think a coup would go down the way you think it would over here
>>539385714>you sold them Norwegian-made nato bombsNice. How does it feel being complicit in our funny little pranks?
>>539385717I mean, everyone knew this happened anyway. We tried to wash our conscience clean with that «no selling to partners in an active conflict» rule thing but everyone knew it was happening anyway. If you’re making bombs you have to accept that you’re making stuff that goes boom and blows up little Ahmed’s and Fatima’s. That’s just reality.
>>539385718Eh, war is just an unfortunate and inescapable part of reality
>>539385719True. That being said, for all its flaws, the US hegemony and forcing Europe into its sphere of influence really has prevented war on this continent for the better part of the last century.
>>539385652>Capitalists in Europe would never do capitalist things that benefit their economic class because they're heckin' cultured Europeans!!!Genuinely one of the greatest delusions I've noticed coming from Europeans. They sincerely think rich people working for their own interests is "Americanism/American influence" because they still have this peasant brain belief that their elites are inherently noble and good people who have a sense of noblesse oblige
>>539385652If you're at the stage where you're blaming the US for socialism in Europe you've fully adopted the 0 agency third worlder mindset and are only a few steps removed from 'CIA o algo' to being the response for all of your problems. No the US and EU had a major divide in 2001 because the EU didn't want to support the US bombing the middle east, the US has been the biggest opponent of liberalism if the tariffs haven't made it abundantly clear. That's why Europe always chimps out whenever the US gets even slightly protectionist with its market. If you look at most of the people criticizing the US and praising China you'll get virtually every hardline neoliberal forum like WEF or anything that comes out of Jeffrey Sachs' mouth.
>>539385662>and bombed the shit out of the Balkans because they didn't align with your visionGave yourself away as a Serb diaspora there lmao, literally all you had to do was NOT commit another Srebrenica genocide
>>539385721>>539385722>>539385723Very organic with three rapid posts like that.
>>539385689>Retard, do you know which country started the UN?The Soviet Union was part of it too, bud. Why do you think the Ukrainian SSR and Belarusian SSR had their own UN seats despite being constituent members of the USSR with no actual independence? New York lobbied for the headquarters, but it also has major offices in Vienna and the Soviets never wanted it because they barely tolerated the US embassy's existence due to the problem of being an entry point for spies.
>>539385723>One Piece fan>dogshit political beliefs and historical illiteracy Btw a major reason why we bombed Serbia was due to Bill Clinton cheating on his wife. No I am not kidding
>>539385726This
>>539385700Uh yeah, the UN troops quite famously did nothing while the Serbs committed genocide practically in front of them, it's actually a fairly famous scandal that any superficially informed individual would know about. The bombings were done by NATO (in 1999, 4 years after Srebrenica in 1995), not the UN. The UN would never authorize it anyway because Russia is a permanent UNSC member, the only time the UN actually "sides" with the US for major military action like that was in Korea when the Soviet Union was actively abstaining from voting as a protest over the continued membership of the ROC over the PRC. >>539385724Yes it is organic, retard. It's called participating in a thread lmao
>>539385651An incompetent Europe is in their best interest. United and powerful enough to ensure that nothing goes wrong too much, but not powerful enough to threaten the US position. That's why he first said that the EU had to manage without him, and then complained that EU countries were cooperating with one another>>539385659A typical smart German move. Combat and operational capabilities, or human and technological resources are more important than some percentage of GDP in a table. But all they have to do is throw some money like higher pensions for military retirees or buy some equipment to get closer to the 2% requirement, or whatever percentage Trumps wants right now and you done. The Excel spreadsheets will add up, there won't be a real army or military force and Trump will be happy>>539385678>>539385686>Only Germany were retarded enough to end their nuclear programmes and I’m actually pretty convinced that was because the US in the 2000s lobbied extremely hard for them to make ports adapted to receive American LNG and that was, at least originally, on the table.>It was just german greens party retardation nothing to do with americans.The main goal was to use Russian gas. In Poland, too, there was intense anti-nuclear hysteria fueled by the German media and local elites backed by “foundations for civic civicness” and “foundations for the legal protection of legal protection”. Our boomers (genX I believe) love that stuff. It was probably the same in all post-communist countries where Germans dominated the media market and were free to fund scholarships and carry out social initiatives through foundations.
>>539385729Our position of babysitting retards? Take it. Please.
>>539385690>we reject globalism except the trading partmutts are insuffreable
>>539385691See? All you have is this retarded repetition of stale memes even though your entire political culture is class war bullshit where everyone is on the side of the lower class by default. You're pathetic, dishonest, subhuman.
>>539385695No one cares about that you dumb cunt. No one has even heard of that.Why do EUs sperg out when told to actually contribute to NATO after decades of basically free defense? You awful shameless bitch.
>>539385730So why won’t Trump pull out of Europe? Both sides want to have their cake and eat it too. The US wants to free itself from having to babysit Europe, but it doesn’t want Europe to make its own decisions. Europe wants greater unification in the interests of the biggest players, but it doesn’t want to bear the costs.>>539385733Because it still can. Because USA doesn't want Europe making it's own decisions and be fully independent and threaten US interests
>>539385730You dont get it do you? those retards you are babysitting will grow up to be adult retards who will be paying you MONEY. You dont want the retards to have their own retard handlers because then you wont be getting their adult retard money.
>>539385662>tariffs>neoliberal idealsPick one and only one. Also isn't what being insular what most states in Europe want? The EU wants to become a United of States of Europe in function and the US does undermine this, even Balkanization is a major part of foreign policy and the US would love nothing more than to stop any and all immigration to Europe. I know for a fact Norway and Switzerland only align with the US on everything because they're entirely aware that the EU would want to absorb them. Can you explain to me how this isn't in the interest of every state not in the EU? Furthermore the UN exists as a defense hegemon which is the major point of contention for the US, the UN and US has not seen eye to eye since the 1970s. The UN was supposed to handle peacekeeping but all they do is act as an economic forum.
>>539385731Putting up tariffs is rejecting globalism. Wtf do you think globalism is? People cry when the US promotes globalism then cry when they reject it.
>>539385652american here im your goebbels.
>>539385651.We already did, and it's called "Elections" and "Far Right dominance."
on the far left
