is reversing brexit now a good idea?
>>539389915What Brexit promised (less immigration and no involvement in political affairs on the continent like Maidan) didnt come to fruition so nothing would change anywaus. Here is a good article in defense of Brexit thoughhttps://paulcockshott.wordpress.com/2016/06/27/brexit-imigration-and-exploitation/This was written in 2016 when we actually had hope that something would change from this vote. I remember how much more optimistic pol was
>>539390043There is no political solution.
>>539389915i hate this bitch so fucking much..
at least russians still have electricity to shill with, even though they don't have fuel. what happens when ukraine 404's their power stations though?
>>539389915Do EUroshits really constantly love hearing about Ukraine?
>>539389915Johnson and the others proved themselves as much in the pocket of big business on tje immigration issues as Blair was>pic related
>>539390137whats next peremoga going to be
>>539390069He completey predicted the late 2010s and 2020s here>if the left pretends unmitigated migration isnt an issue to working class wages expect a UKIP future
Aside from realigning itself with the EU, the UK could have gone two ways: aligned itself with the US/51st state, or gone it alone but become some Singapore free market giga hub. There's nothing approaching a majority for moving closer to the US, and the entire country is too addicted to welfare and government for the free market island option. Conversely rejoining the EU has a polling majority in the country that's only growing, so politicians will gravitate to that
>>539390043A lot would change. Many bongs could escape to the EU easily. Which is doing much better than their shithole island.
>>539389915The fake Brexit that brought endless Jeets and Pakis was objectively worse than the Poles from the EU. Reform might or might not fix it but not sure they can keep there momentum until an election.
>>539390292Those other two options are incredibly Un feasible and require lots of effort that no politician today is going to put in to his country. Do you think Singapore just became a nice place to live over night?
>>539390292>aligned itself with the US/51st state, or gone it alone but become some Singapore free market giga hub.1) you are already our bitch and have been since Suez. You will always be our little bitch.2) Your singapore comment is pure delusion. Singapore is a tiny dictatorship tax haven, you have 70 million people, and half of your economy is in London.
>>539390271but what happens when ukraine 404's your power stations though?
>>539390331Reform are neolibs and will bring endless more jeets, nigel talks about how much he loves jeets and blacks from former colonies
>>539390341>>539390367In the pro Brexit campaign, there was an oversized vocal contingent of libertarians who actually sold "Singapore-on-Thames" as an option, and they had the polar opposite idea that the Brexit working class majority, with its more more nationalist and socialist economic bent, had, which is why we're now stuck in this shit.
reminder that 4chan has been blocked by russian authorities for a few years now.any pro-russian russian flag is a $0.10 per post pidor on a VPN or similar softwareremember to spice the options field
>>539390508>vocal contingent of libertarians who actually sold "Singapore-on-Thames" as an optionThey sold you a bunch of baloney and you fell forr it.
>>539390508Im not saying people don’t believe it. Im saying it’s not practical. Singapore is in a strategic area of the world in the postwar years and various powers had vested interest in propping it up plus it had a Fascist basically at the helm guiding the economy along and preventing negative outside influence. The UK is not in that position at all.
>>539389915>>539390043Absolutely not. Regardless of how the United Kingdom exited, who orchestrated it, whatever, they SHOULD NOT be let in under any circumstances.Certain areas in the UK are Pakistani holding pins, and Europe SHOULD NOT risk that trickling out.
>>539390513So that makes you what exactly?
>>539390331The Jeets and Pakis are there now. Britain needs to contain them and self immolate. It’s for the good of everyone.
>>539390449> Nigel brings up the issue.And you should thank him for it. All Europeans should be reminded that Britain is a Pakistani outpost.
>>539390718Yeah 3 posts in a row. We get it
>>539390513When did that happen? I visited in 2024 and if I recall correctly only certain pages were banned. I had to alternate between VPN to view the pages and non-VPN to post. I probably made a dozen posts over a few weeks period. Why is it banned, btw?
>>539389915The EU is in need of fundamental reform before the UK should ever consider rejoining. The fact European politicians wanted to punish the UK for leaving and make it impossible for other countries to do the same says a lot about a supposedly voluntary and democratic organisation.
>>539390598Look they didnn't mean become Singapore in a literal sense, moreso go hard on deregulation, cutting taxes and gov overreach and be more politically stable compared to Europe in order to steal away capital and firms. Something in that ballpark could have been done except as I said the people here are too big gov and we became far from politically stable after bregsit
>>539390770>Whenfor a few years. a lot of ISPs didn't give a shit though (maybe some still don't), so sites would work. but officially its blocked.>Whyinefficiency and ineptitude. they find one jpeg of aziv chevron (illegal to look at) and nuke the entire cloudflare cdn.
>>539389915When is it our turn to leave the EU?
>>539391026Oh silly, since Brexit the EU made sure no one ca. Leave anymore. Remember when the Romanians wanted to fuck off and elected a guy that wanted to take out Romania from EU? Well Brussels said Romanians are stupid and voted wrong, also they are all russian agents and just cancelled their elections
>>539390598Singapore is still basically a fascist state. You can go to prison for spititng out chewing gum.
>>539391026German companies have profited significantly more from the EU than the pittance you are paying into it and I am talking strictly about profits from German companies moving in and buying up cheap. I am not including the other benefits, like infrastructure improving or corruption decreasing in other countries, which also benefits Germany.
>>539390909The EU needs to become a united superstate like the US or your whole continent is doomed to fail from disunification and subdivision from China. Do you think our states have the democratic rights to leave?
>>539389915Reversing the brown/black invasion of Europe is a good idea and it's called Remigration.
>>539391026Having euro as a money makes it really difficult. Also EU laws are very favorable toward german economy (Eu makes us buy expansive german shit when we could get cheaper quality for less). EU makes you have cheap electricity because we have to sell you our cheap electricity (because EU said so). EU makes you have a space program too, because they forced us to give our space program to other european countries. We also spend a lot of money in military because we're the only army in EU. I wish WE could leave EU.
>>539390069Genau
The same people who created the current world order that you hate so much are the same people who created the European Union in the first place. Most of you have learned absolutely nothing.
>>539393271Yeah, we're aware about amerisharts and their jewish masters.
>>539389915>Exits EU>Import millions of pakis that couldn't be let in under EU laws>Enter EU>Pakis now roam free in the Schengen areaNo thanks
>>539394608They'll go well with your nafris. A new and exotic type of shitskin just for you
>>539394608>>Pakis now roam free in the Schengen areathey are already here, guido
In 2015 it was already clear that the EU is going to clash with Russia and I thought Britain escaping from the EU would somehow save them boy was I stupid.
>>539389915No. God no. Regardless of how it turned out, being outside the EU is better for us in the long term, politics now rests solely in Westminster and if we want to change things then we can. That was the point, and that's been delivered. The issue we have now is globalist politicians not wanting to enact the policies the people want. Returning to the EU would make that situation significantly worse, as now we would not only have to delay with the globalists in Westminster, but also the globalists in the Byzantine mess that is the EU.
>>539395217>Leaving the largest trading block in the history of the planet for better tradeIt didn't work>Leaving the EU to reduce immigration It went to unprecedented levels, and worse, from non EU countries Were there other reasons other than smooth brain hot takes?
>>539389915Brexit caused a recession, has severely harmed the UK economically and ended up increasing migration, not decreasing it, except the migrants came from the Middle East and North Africa instead of Europe. Disastrous policy that should be reversed asapThe worst part is, the UK now pays tariffs on European goods that they didn't pay before. Brexit is the first time a country voluntarily economically sanctioned itself. Boris should be fired out of a cannon into the sun for what he did
>>539395280The fact we're now totally governed by our elected representatives. Not by foreigners in a foreign place.>It went to unprecedented levels, and worse, from non EU countries Brexit didn't do that, Boris Johnson and his Tory traitors did that. They didn't have to do thatz they made a series of deliberate policy choices to do that.
>>539395280>Leaving the largest trading block in the history of the planet for better tradeEngland and Germany were taking on the debts of ALL of EU members and there are a lot of them. Now Germany is shouldering that burden and is buckling at the seams. All that trade means nothing if you are drowning in other people's debt.>It went to unprecedented levels, and worse, from non EU countriesLOL it was already like that before they left the EU. It didn't get worse it stayed the same. Long term leaving the EU can be the best thing to ever happen to England if England would only get its shit together.
>>539395371You were never governed by Europeans you dumb spastic. You still have to follow all those same European rules if you want to trade with Europe, you just pay tariffs on European goods now, but don't get any decisioning making power in Europe. Brexit is the worst of all worlds. It's astonishing how stupid the average Brexit voter is
>>539389915Who cares what happens politically in America and Europe anymore? It's all completely fucked and entirely controlled top-down. All these little rituals of votes, parties, and campaigning are all just performances to claim the public's consent to what Jewish power was going to do anyway. Even when people are arguing over choices and narratives, they're all choices and narratives given to them by Jews so they all win from the rigged game in the start. And then people come at me with, "HEY THEYRE GOING TO DO THIS BILL OR THIS NEW POLITICAL CAMPAIGN, WHATS YOUR OPINION WHAT SIDE ARE YOU ON?" Fuck you, that's my side.
>>539390069This. Traitors to the left, traitors to the right.Fuck the EUSSR and the neo-Marxist Labour party.The people voted for Brexit because they were fed up of mass immigration, as punishment the elites started flooding us with jeets and other turd worlders.Regime change through civil war is the only way to free ourselves from ZOG tyranny. This goes for the US, Canada, Germany, France etc too.
>>539389915yes but I fear we won't have the privileges and accommodations we had pre-brexitalthough the EU is going more surveillance state, I think they're still moving alower than the UK so it could still be good for us in that senseIt should be led by public sentiment. If we move too early, then the euroskepticism in our population may be too large and sabotage any talks for the next few years
>>539390329>just accept third worlders bringing their third world to youNo thanks.
>>539390331It was a betrayal of the worst kind.The public won't ever forget.
>>539395440>as punishment the elites started flooding us with jeets and other turd worldersBoris did this, the same person as ran the Brexit campaign. You got swindled by a grifter.
>>539390043Brexit led to more third world immigration and less white European immigration from the EU into the UK Btw
>>539389915I want us to return to the EU so I can more easily leave the UK.that's the only reason.
>>539395410>but don't get any decisioning making power in Europe. Can you name a single EU country that actually uses its power to decide anything for the betterment of the European peoples? All you have to name is one.
>>539390143Not really, only the nigger infested countries in the western part.Countries that are located closer to RuZZia and Jewkraine actually know better to shill for this slavic civil war. Russians have always been assholes but hohols aren't any better. Blatant corruption and lies for european handouts.
>>539395496Why would I play this game when any European policy I name, you will say it's a bad thing? you're not slick
>>539395479This is one of the reasons why the Conservatives won't ever get in power again.Theresa May purposely gave us a shitty deal.
>>539389915>RebrentranceIt'll never work, too unwieldy a word
>>539395522Conservatives in Australia are also very unlikely to ever get back in. They redlined migration as hard as possible during covid, now they're anti-migration. As if we would forget
>>539389915What do we call it? Brentrance? Rebrentry?
>>539389915I believe the running of the UK into the ground was international done with the result of the UK having no choice but to go back to the EU. Their labor government is friendly with Brussels.
>>539395582intentionally*
>>539395521>when any European policy I name, you will say it's a bad thing>Claims I'm being slick as he finds excuses to dodge the questionExactly in the past decades it has ALL been terrible for the European people's and it seems like it is just getting worse and worse. Why did you even bother replying to me if you were just going to dodge the question anyway?
>>539389915>bunch of people who were pro-brexit are now not>bunch of people who would never ever want their country to join a union like the EU now saying UK was wrong to leaveahemgo fuck yourself UK will NEVER rejoin the EU, we didn't collapse we didn't fail, we outgrew the EU 27 economy and still 4chan is like oooooo brexit bad should rejoin, after spending 2016 saying yeah fuck the EUshills think we don't remember
>>539389915Their main problem was getting flooded by slaveshits, the EU would be better if we restricted their movements.Everything else they didn't even really understand and guys like farage just made shit up.
>>539395582It was an extremely dumb idea in the first place. Why would you leave a free-trade agreement with continent 21 miles from UK shores? You are always going to have to trade with them. Why would you voluntarily agree to have all your trade with them tariffed?
>>539395322>Brexit caused a recessionNo it didn't.>has severely harmed the UK economicallyWe have done about as well as the big Economies in the EU. There's a counterfactual model floating around that people that use to claim we've lost something like 100 billion in GDP. But that assumes that the average economic conditions from like 2010 to 2016 continued into the future. Which they obviously did not.>and ended up increasing migrationAgain, that wasn't Brexit. That was the Tories. It's very difficult to have any kind of discussion with someone when you're this ignorant.>>539395410>You were never governed by EuropeansWe absolutely are. Or were. For instance I want to bring back the death penalty, however that's not possible to do in the EU.
>>539395641um sweaty, we have a FTA with the EU and we don't pay them £21bn a year to trade any more. now it's £0want to try again with things you don't understand?
>>539389915its a good idea for like northern ireland, and probably literally no one else
>>539395602Kek imagine thinking they can gaslight us into becoming pro-EU.Yes things are shitty but rejoining the fucking EU wouldn't improve anything whatsoever, we'd probs get even more boat wogs.
>>539395671Sure but you still have to do paperwork to trade
>>539395649UK has fallen significantly behind all other OECD countries since Brexit passed
>>539395641EU is an evil organization and I will cheer the day they are put down.
>>539389915>reversing brexitcan only happen when the UK gets rid of their Pajeets and Pakis first
I voted leave
>>539395697It was all worth it because now they have control over their own border, so they can keep the population British!
>>539389915The entire reason globalists shat their pants with brexist is entirely because it went against their ideals that the entire world will just naturally become unified "because of the weight of history".
>>539395684typical 4chan shills >idea good, do idea idea gets done >maybe idea wasn't good, uk should reverse ideano>>539395694on some of it yes. but now we don't pay for you lot claiming child support for kids that don't exist. or for polish skyscrapers while our own infrastructure crumbles. Almost all of /pol/ hates the EU I see EU flags constantly bitching about it. But when UK leaves, suddenly they're all pro-eu lmfaoand now we trade with the world. not who the EU has agreements with, many of those deals are far better than EU trade agreements. eg. usa/canada/australia etc>>539395716based. me too, would again too
>>539395698Their ultimate goal is the Kalergi Plan and to create a "nu-European".They even give an award out to leaders who work towards it, Merkel won it one year.
>>539395743uh yeah about that
>>539389915We need to stop Russian aggression, combat antisemitism, and open our borders to refugees to fix the economy. Nah Im just joking jews rape kids, jews are the synagogue of satan.
>>539395771Huh that's strange! Farage promised us that Brexit would mean the government would start caring about the British people again! Surely he didn't pull wool over our eyes for personal gain, did he??
>>539395753You're celebrating something that gutted your small and medium size business ecosystem. All the extra work that goes into making trade is a pain in the ass for corpos, but a huge burden for the lil guy. Even if those trade deals are better, they're not better for you, they're better for the conglomerates.
>>539395697>33 compatible countriesThat pink line is the counterfactual model that I referenced. The model assumes that 2010-2016 economic conditions continued in perpetuity, and that any difference between the model and reality is down to Brexit. Obviously, that's retarded, as we all know a lot of things have happened since 2019.
Anything EU related is never a good idea.
>>539395743>>539395771But... We do. The fact that our political class stabbed us in the back is a separate issue to Brexit.
>>539391118>You can go to prison for spititng out chewing gum.As you should. It's disgusting, inexcusable, and prison is the only cure for people like you who think it is not a big deal.
>>539395771It's like I said, the pro EU members of the UK government have been destabilizing the country so they have no choice but to return to the EU for any sort of stability to return
>>539395839And yet every other country grew significantly except Britain. Seems like you're in denial
>>539395833>let me tell you about your country1. No it didn't. 2. We outgrew the EU 27 economy >Oh no bro, now you have to do paperwork instead of paying £20bn to euro communists to buy things from them.:^)
>>539395833>muh economyWhy should I care about magic jewish numbers?
>>539395893Except they didn't. We grow roughly in line with the big EU economies.>Seems like you're in denialNot really, personally I couldn't give a shit about GDP, it's a gay Jewish number used to justify infinite immigration. You're just wrong and I'm autistic.
>Leaves EU commie block >Doesn't pay £20bn a year for Romanian highways and Polish skyscrapers >Gets invited to CPTPP by based nips, a market bigger and expanding faster than a contracting EU >t - this is bad g-goyim UK needs to toe the line KEEEK marxists seething
>>539395898Yes it did. It's well researched. Brexit was a US state department op to fuck over the EU. Now US multinationals can swoop in and dictate the terms of the deals in the UK. You went from equal member in a trading union to a future vassal to the US with no voting rights. And you get more browns.>>539395925Name one benefit then lol. Because it sure isn't immigration.
>>539395941The graph is literally 33 comparable economies grown between 6-8% more than your economy. Maybe you're autistic, but apparently you're innumerate too. ASD doesn't meant intelligent
>>539395925You shouldn't, and you should absolutely not listen to seething mainlanders who says the UK can't be wealthy without the EU either.
>>539395819The problem is the traitors who are fanatically pro-EU remained in power and worked tirelessly to sabotage the "win". You know this of course though and are clearly just a lefty shill.
>>539395771Go to any other EU country and they are filled with brown non-EU origin people as well. The browning of Europe was going to happen regardless of the UK still being in the EU or not.
>>539395981>Muh mean American boogieman.Rent free.
>>539395981>Brexit was a US state department op to fuck over the EUoh you're retarded. OK . >y yes it did. my source is um. well. uh. UK BAD >y you have no r rights voting in the EU club now haha goyim lol don't care. CPTPP is infinitely more valuable than over priced protectionist EU shit. Britain will always chose the freedom of the high seas over eurocommunism. >outgrows the EU economy>n-no you didn't let me tell you why this is actually bad...
>>539396025This. Like I said, the EUSSR is all about mongrelising the European and creating a brown mixed mono race of low IQ lemmings.
>>539396025they actually got more browns than us during the same period. they never seem to want to mention this one. and now, their glorious german fuhrer witch has decreed that EU member states now must share the brownness or be fined. Literally forced migrant quotas for all the EU now. If you look at the post-brexit "boriswave" the EU got more than t his in the same time period. I love how they think their countries are not also brown now and this is a somehow uniquely UK thing. Maybe they think nobody goes to the EU and looks around.
>>539396070It amuses me when European countries call Americans mutts when their countries are being muttifed too. They hate the US? They will become the US.
>>539396008>33 counties Why are we using the US and Canada anyway? They aren't in the EU. I suspect that the US is massively skewing this. If the argument is>Brexit was harmful to Britain and staying in the EU would have been beneficialThen you shouldn't need to use other countries also not in the EU to make your point. Now personally I don't trust anything I read in the Guardian, but you do you.
>>539396050Yeah nah, you're retarded. You look at politics as a team sport where multinationals earning 5% more profit somehow benefits you.
>>539396142>pay £20bn and do as we say goyim no.
