>Imprison 3% of all men in your country>suddenly becomes a utopiaWhy dont other countries do this
>>539396802quite literally: its politically unfashionablethe diff with el salvador was that their streetgangs were so fucking insanely violent, that it suddenly BECAME politically fashionable for bukele to declare martial law and suspend their constitution. in fact he was literally elected BECAUSE he said he would do thatanother important factor is the size of the cunt. it aint very big. so after a decently buffed up state police force was made, going around arresting ppl en masse without due process became actually possible.also i wouldnt go so far as "utopia". place still has its problems. its economy is still just fucked. bukele has been trying to get ppl to come over for tourism, but they do kinda need some industry or something to export. indigo isnt quite the commodity it used to be a few centuries ago
>>539396802have any of you broke dick faggots ever even been to el salvador? or you just believing le heckin internet jews?>>539397043>tourismel salvador is a nice place with great weather, scenery and beaches but its a police state. being frisked almost everyday and having your bus stopped so everyone can be searched sucks.
I wonder which parts of the U.S. are not safe...
>>539396802https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cQlVww0zKo
>>539396802Bitcoin did THAT!
>>539397257yea exactlyyou can only do so much tourism while still operating a police state. and they do actually still need to operate a police state, because it isnt over yet
jews
>>539396802Why don't they just kill them?
>>539396802Because other countries are infested with Jewish lawyers who will file lawsuits to protect the criminals who make life harder for the natives. Its all the Jewish lawyers fault, deport the Jewish lawyers and even the blackest nigger will obey the law.
>>539396802Because you need to literally break the law to do it. You need to be a visionary dictator, most dicators are corrupt and shit (like Trump) that's why the constitution is so paranoid about slippery slope into a dictatorship and has countrless of absurd checks and balanaces preventing guys like trump from becoming one.And it's actually good. Bukele is someone America needs but does not deserve
>>539397806>jewishwait till you find out where bukeles parents are from
>>539396802.
>>539396802They should kill them. Eradicate trash genes and the world will be a better place. On a global scale that would include the entire nation of hell salvador.
>>539396802The reason why countries like Poland are also safe it's because we are a police state. At first glance we're a EU/NAFO liberal capitalist country, but our state institutions are ruthless and more similar to Russia than Europe. I don't mind that actually, but the country will make sure to ruin your life if you step out a little bit
>>539397784i think its just cuz bukele didnt want to get regime changed. he claims its cuz muh christianity, but i think the actual reason is a bit more mundane and pragmatic (staying in power).but there was already a lot of intl media kicking and screaming just because he was suspending the constitution to arrest literal children (whom the gangs were recruiting out of middleschools precisely because salvadoran laws dictated children couldnt get charged as adults). if he just started executing them, there would be backlash, prolly both intlly and domestically.the other, more cynical reason, is that the prison economy is one of the only actually growing industries in el salvador. those megaprisons have created a shitton new jobs. jobs that the cunt desperately needs
>>539397629wrong country, memeflaggot
>>539396802They have the unique phenomenon of all gangsters tattooing themselves for easy identification
>>539397932What's old is new again>Western Europe, State Formation, and Genetic Pacification>https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10480901/
>>539396802>source: seguridad.gob.svIs this some sort of joke?Do malnutrition in Venezuela next. But take the data from official government stats.
>>539396802> Fake numbers then> Faker numbers now
>>539398283This, only sensible comment in this thread of retards
>>539398283It really became much better in Salvador since Bukele, it's not a meme its a reality. He's very popular for his crackdown. Many people complain about police having excessive rights though
>>539397784
they should be ground up into hotdogs
>>539398371Yes I'm sure a squalid dictatorship reduced murder rates by 100x, and the country full of brown people is now safer than Switzerland. If you believe that then you'll believe anything.
>>539398727there is literally a squad of 5 soldiers patrolling every block frisking everyone. its hard to commit crime in that situation.
>>539398727>have gigantic gang problems since the 80’s>Gangs do all the killing like gangs do in central LA for example>Arrest all people who have gang affiliation tattoos >Crime and murder drops like a rock>Suprised pichachu faceIt is actually that simple
>>539398727yes thats exactly what happened you gay retardyou can just go there and see it in action. youll be stopped and frisked by police wearing body armor and carrying assault rifles. if you have visible tattoos, itll happen a LOT lol.that literally IS how you solve a problem like el salvadors. there simply is no other way to do it. which is the entire reason bukele was elected into office, and still remains rather popular, in spite of the suspension of most of salvadorans natural rights as citizens
>>539396802Women, given power by jews.
>>539398853>>539398878>>539398915> b-but twitter told me that El Salvador is the new Zürich You are so gullible. I also bet you believe Iran is two weeks from getting a nuke
>>539398727Sometimes you need to do this to fix some issues with your people.Salvador is a rare example of a high functioning dictatorship. Others are Singapore, China, Rwanda, or Qatar
>>539398878>have high murder rate>lie>murder rate dropsIt's that simple.
>>539398972>salvador is like singapore0/10
>>539398956It is a 100 times safer people can actually walk the street at night in El Salvador something that wasn’t possible for 30 years it’s actually very easy to stop gang violence
>throwing a third of niggers in cells+1
>>539396802those spics sent all of their criminals to New York, Connecticut, Virginia and New Jersey. go there and see for yourself. that's why they're safe, because 30% of their fucking population is living outside of the country.
>>539398956el salvador is measurably safer in almost all metrics when compared to nearly any major EU city rn. yes. thats exactly true. and its no surprise if youve ever been there because >>539398853>there is literally a squad of 5 soldiers patrolling every block frisking everyoneisnt even a slight exaggeration.
>>539398999Checked but no arrest any suspected gang member the same groups that were terrorizing the country for 30 years fun fact ms-13 was started in LA
>>539396802why do I have a feeling that crime statistics reported in countries like el salvador are in no way reliable
>>539398956i have been to el salvador multiple times though.
>>539397784waste of biomass and the banks/man farmers hate that
>>539399080Sounds like something we should do.
>>539399162sounds like we should send you all back just based on your race, and we'd probably only have a 10% error rate.
>>539399022It's not retard. The murder rate in Salvador is below the US but still higher than Europe. That makes Salvador a safe country. The probability of you getting killed there as a tourist is lower than you winning in a lottery
>>539399110Anon they don't have the means to collect accurate stats. If you accept Salvadoran stats then you must also accept stats from Best Korea.One of the problems with dictatorships is that the organs of administration don't dare tell the truth to the sovereign. There is no mechanism for him to get accurate reports.
>>539398878MS13 banned gang tattoos back in 2005 since permanently marking yourself as a criminal is pretty retarded if you want to avoid jail what worked were arrest quotas and bonuses, which work nice as long as your cops have enough easy'ish targets, once they start to run out they start kidnapping random people and taking bribes to not kidnap them, they eventually become part of the criminal world and the gangs come back mexico ran the same program in mexico city under alfonzo durazo's management of the city police, it pretty much erradicated gang violence but left a police force well known for corruption to this day, and the gangs came back some years later el salvador has deeply run out of those targets and it's actually wrecking their economy since they are taking solid chunks of productive males, they might get pretty awful gang/cartel violence in the near future since they are running plenty of corruption with gangs and even mexican cartels nowadays
>>539396802>>539397043El Salvador is also racially "homogenous" in that they're so mixed they don't know who the fuck is what, so you can arrest criminals for being criminals and nobody will say "You're only doing this because they're black!!"In the US if you arrest criminals, people call you racist. The first person to shamelessly arrest blacks without giving a fuck gets my vote.
>>539399466>El Salvador is also racially "homogenous" in that they're so mixed they don't know who the fuck is what,actually salvaderenos are very proud of their spanish ancestry. during their civil war back in the early 1900's the "spaniards" killed off all the mayan and drove them to guate and honduras. younsee lots of swatiskas and shit like that in el salvador. lots and lots of muslims too.
>>539399669we can see you people when you come to our country, you're not Spaniards, you're mestizos just like any other brand of spic.
>>539399669yea lol isnt bukeles mom literally palestinian? or maybe it was his dad
>>539399789his dad owns all the Toyota dealerships in latam.
>>539396802Because doing that in the us and Europe would be 'racist'
>>539399434Mmm interesting thanks for this tidbit of information
>>539396802>jail criminals>you no longer have crimeYes, this is what the rest of the world should be doing. Instead the left wants us to be more lenient. Let criminals out on the streets and try to rehab these retards. Everyone that claims to be a gang member in this country should be locked up and then you'll see crime plummet
>>539400053should bukele ever roll back the territorial control plan or should it remain permanent?
>>539396802Notice that other countries had low rates all that time without turning into police states that will imprison you without due process.
>>539399425You can just see videos in El Salvador and how things have changed and counting arrested people is a very easy thing to do, the thing to watch out for is>>539399434
>>539399669>actually salvaderenos are very proud of their spanish ancestryyeah man, like I said, these people all view themselves as the same race (it doesn't matter what race that is) and that's part of why they can skirt around "hurrrrrr dat racist!!!" when arresting people.
>>539400244>these people all view themselves as the same raceno they dont, latinos are more racist than whites. its almost a caste system based on skill color in alot of those countries. lighter skin = higher status. they sell spf 300 sunscreen down there even though they cant get a sunburn.
>>539400107Roll back offcourse but then again bukeli has loose bonds with the WEF so that might not be the plan
>>5393968021. authoritarian policies have hidden long term costs whether psychological, economic or social or cultural 2. countries like Germany and Switzerland are still safer than El Salvador proving that authoritarian measures aren't necessarily needed3. read Dostoevsky to understand why any top down system of human control is destined to fail
>>539400194thisunbelievable how retarded /pol/ is these day
>>539398021Ecuador, Salvador, same tropical shithole.
>>539400436>they sell spf 300 sunscreen down there even though they cant get a sunburn.damn it sounds like they all have the same fucking skin color and can't point out "hurr criminal more darkerer u bad"like I fucking said
>>539400461>>539400506Boohoo, some guys with face tattoos got wrongly imprisoned boo hoo hoo
>>539396802El Salvador is currently a dicatatorship run by Giancarlo Devasini and Paolo Ardoino with Bukele as a figurehead. Paolo Ardoino and Giancarlo Devasini through Howard Lutnik's Cantor Fitzgerald and a series of Cayman and other British Oversea Territories purchases has become the 3rd largest holder of US debt. It comes out as UK or Cayman in the reports, but it's them. They arbitrage it with incredible leverage, so they don't actually have the capital to move the trillions, and they make all the interest off every sucker who buys a stablecoin, but they don't hold it long and cycles it out and only has to put up a percentage. They are also the founder of Tether Coin, and why Bukele but El Salvador's entire national treasury in crypto. And they also are the money behind CERCOT, if you ever wondered how a country with a GDP a fraction the size of Rhode Island's built a high-tech modern mega-prison and not a cattle pen with chicken wire. They may very well, if the trading blows up, completely fuck American interest rates. But if it doesn't blow up, the USD is going from oil-backed reserve currency to crypto-backed reserve currency thanks to the GENIUS Act, which is one of the only bills Trump and the GOP passed since they took over in 2025, but which nobody talks about. There's a reason Rubio's very first stop when he became Secretary of State was El Salvador. The Italian billionaires who took it over live there now, and they're ushering in a brand new and probably incredibly risky world monetary regime. But also they can't afford to have their new home be the world's murder capital, so they pay to clean it up. Good luck!
>>539400461> Germany and Switzerland are still safer>StillNo shit because europeans but you can’t trust the numbers here they put serious crimes of the 3rd world invaders like murder and rape under other crimes here in this shithole so they don’t show up in the official statistics. The ethnocide must continue Damm reality
>>539396802Communists reward criminals because they punish the population they're trying to control
>>539400203Sure. But thats anecdotal evidence. Anyone claiming to even know the Salvadoran murder rate is a liar. Anyone claiming to know it's "lower than Canada's" is a double liar.
It's a feature not a bug. Anarcho-tyranny.
>>539397932Europe spent a few generations killing 2% of is most violent people and it brought about the stability we have now. You don't have to kill them per se but you do have to stop them from reproducing
>>539400791I heard that they wanna flip the debt market over to stable coins so they can inflate the debt away and offcourse launching the tokenization of everything the CBDC’s and digital blockchain UBI control grid pro tip tether is a ticking time bomb not MICA compliant.
>>539401005You can get a really good feel of a city if you go there and just talks to the locals in different parts of town, not imperial evidence yes but a very good indicator
>>539401005And we are not that different polack>>539400873
>>539401259100%. And circle will benefit. But Nutlick and his short-term basis trade and repo arbitrage are printing too much money for them to stop now. Only way they stop is if somebody makes them or if the UST market blows up from too many waking up and realizing the patch for the China deleverage was just memecoins. BTW, this also means that the deeper the US goes into debt the more money Nutlick makes, but that goes without saying.
>>539396802Well you faggots don't have the space for 13% of your population.