>The US 30Y Note Yield has now traded above 5.00% for the longest stretch since 2007.>So far this year, the 30Y Note Yield has traded above 5.00% for 27 days, or ~19% of all trading sessions.Guys, run!Get out of the damn stock market, mutual funds, and cryptocurrency right now.The bubble is about to burst,you still have time to get out now.Otherwise, you’ll starve to death on the streets.
>>539410842>OMG THE WORLD IS ENDIN-ACK!>>539410792
>>539410842I hope you lads are prepared for the collapse
We indoorsmen have to band together
>>539410842this is impossible under the leadership of donald trump.
FIGHTING THE ELEMENTS
>>539410974>>539410994>>539411030>Greek attempts at an air freshener>it still smell like greeks unfortunatelykek
>>539410842oh no, ahhh I didn't sell all my crypto and now the pedo government are trying to capture me for their unrealised prophets ahhhh noooooo
>>539410842there's another one of these predictions every single day, and yet I have never lost money on anything.all you have to do is catch the falling knife, ignore that it will hurt for a bit, and then laugh when the inevitable rebound happens. I am up 22% since the Iran war dump. That would need to be a really disastrous collapse to even just put me into the red (and it's actually just another buy opportunity)
>>539410842>THE HAPPENINGS ARE HAPPENING>THE STRAITS ARE CLOSING>THE BIRTHRATES ARE PLUMMETING>THE MAGNETIC FIELDS ARE WEAKENING>THE NEETS ARE NEETING>THE NUKES ARE DROPPING>THE SHITCOINS ARE DUMPING>THE TARIFFS ARE HITTING HARD>THE REAL ESTATES ARE OVERWHELMING>THE AI IS TAKING OVER>THE BANKS ARE COLLAPSING>THE YIELDS ARE SPIKING>THE RATES ARE CUTTING>THE PETRODOLLARS ARE DYING>THE BONDS ARE DEFAULTING>THE INSIDERS ARE SHORTING>THE MONEYS ARE INFLATING>THE PENSIONS ARE PONZYING>THE FAMINES ARE COMING>THE MARKETS ARE CRASHING>THE JOBS ARE RECEEDING>THE UBI'S ARE DROPPING>THE DEBTS ARE PILING UP>THE CYBERCRIMINALS ARE HACKING>THE BLACKOUTS ARE COMING>THE WORLD WARS ARE STARTING>THE WEST HAS FALLENIt's over but I still have to go to work tomorrow morning. I'm tired bros, I'm tired of this world. When will it finally be my turn to be on top?
OP forgot the memeflag and will not be whipped by the shillfarm overseer.
>>539410974Damn it, I hate people who keep chickens in apartment buildings.Their damn chickens start crowing at 4 a.m. every day, the elevator reeks of chicken poop, and they’re always so noisy that it’s impossible to sleep.
>>539411056SPARTA STANDS WITH DIXIE
>>539410842I’m 100% Alibaba and Tencent though
>>539410842How do I profit and get a mulatta gf that willingly tongues my asshole?
>>539410842do you work for the Chinese government?
>>539411401>buy the dip Never been a better time to buy bonds, my fellow Americans
>>539412020>obviously staged video is stagedBody builders are almost always staging shit that's as fraudulent like their "natty" gains.
>>539410842Symptom.
>>539410974I've stocked up on 50kg of canned fish and meat, 70 Liters of Olive Oil, 200kg of dried pasta, 15kg of vegetable seeds
>>539410842You fat fucking cunt Worthless shit bagNothing is going to happenNo collapse. Nothing.Fuck you bastard! Fucking gook!
>>539413310Salt. Lots and lots of salt. Uncured long pork will make you shake
>>539412857I love how they put on an effort of focusing on 2020 when things really started going crazy around 2000Gee I wonder what happened around 2000
>lol
>>539413624>Gee I wonder what happened around 2000The “.com ”bubble burstHaha, anyone who’s still trading stocks is going to starve to death.
>>539413624your point is valid, but reminder that the banks were about to 2008 again when ronas magically came along and injected them with stupendous amounts of money
>>5394108422 more weeks
>>539410842This place predicts immanent collapse more often than Saagar Enjeti
>>539413762there is no AI bubble.the dot com bubble exploded because there wasn't any actual revenue coming in to back up the higher valuations.this is NOT the case with AI. companies are making retarded money.
>>539410842Here's the 30-year yield from 1977 to current.Rates were held artificially low for several years. It's a good thing that they finally started to go up.
>>539413624>since 2000You dumb retards can't look at a graph and actually read it. The trend starts in the late 70s, Reagan and Nixon once again to blame for fucking the country with a right wing nationalist dick
>>539414052>are making retarded moneyBy burning through billions a month?
>>539414052semiconductor companies are making retarded money selling to AI companies who are losing retarded amounts of money. We've already been through the phase of realizing LLMs aren't even that much cheaper than people.
>>539411523How many chickens do they have, Chyna?
>>539414163Member kidsThe ones that became rich in the gold rushes back in the days were the ones selling shovels
>>539413432kek u mad
>>539414052Not for long. Token prices skyrocketing, Cloudfare making it so AI can't scrape the internet for info without paying for it, AI companies already hemorrhaging money and starting to rent out their data centers to suckers who think they can do better.
>>539410974>The Jew fears the indoor chicken farmer>>539411523Is... Is that a common occurrence in China?
>>539410842nothing ever happens.
>>539414259>Is... Is that a common occurrence in China?In rural areas, many residents of apartment buildings are farmers who received government-allocated housing after their homes were demolished.Even though they now live in nice homes, these people never stop growing vegetables and raising chickens.If you’re unlucky enough to have neighbors like this, you should move out immediately.Those farmers are complete scoundrels—they’ll never stop raising chickens.
People are dumb but they're not "oh we fucked up the whole economy 15 years ago let's do it again" dumb. The finance gurus are trying the shame shenanigans again for sure. But some rules got nerfed like with subprime mortgage lending. Now we have private equity aka Capital Genesis Unleashed and even private banks for make private fortunes! So you can run the same game but you can't scale it as easily by going to the public with it.
>>539410842Why isn't there a 0 ordinate:^)
>>539414236They can pivot to mining bitcoins
>>539414065There we go
>>539414052Lol wut. OpenAI and anthropic haven’t even made any profit yet. And their business models are being threatened by cheap open source chink AI.
>>539410842>ZOMG still historically below average rates!If this crashes it it's because it's all fake (it is)
>>539414427Raising chickens indoors seems incredibly unsanitary. I'd move the fuck out at the earliest opportunity. Growing vegetables is fine.
>>539414801Their AI has uses. It might not be the uses you like
>>539414595mining bitcoin isn't profitable
>>539410842Forgot meme flag. Social credit score -100
>>539410914It's a big part of the reason mortgage rates are so high, the housing market is stuck, and younger people can't afford a home. You'll pay $507k in interest on a $400k home, at 30 years/ 6.6% rate. The people investing in government bonds also invest in mortgage-backed securities, so as the government spends wantonly and acts erratically, driving up bond yields, mortgage rates go up too. Pete Hegseth just asked congress for another half a trillion+ in DoD funding, because dying for Israel is more important than the housing market, residential contractor industry, dream of home ownership, US birth rates and upward mobility.
>>539411452>When will it finally be my turn to be on top?When you pay for an hour of a whore’s time.
>>539414483>subprime mortgage lendingLol that's how my mother made quite a bit of money. Thanks, CitiFinancia.
>>539415159*CitiFinancial
All of my wealth is tied up in comic books and unopened toys from the early 2000s >We ride
>>539410842We’re in a constant financial crisis since covid. Everything is expensive.
>>539414995I'm not talking about AI. AI is a real tech and will survive any crash, like the internet survived the dotcom crash. I'm talking about the pile of financial chicanery on top of it, and the ridiculous 12 years of ZIRP they did to paper over the previous bubble. This graph is the entire problem with cost of living.
>>539414995>AI has usessurely, it is nice to be able to just paste a meeting into AI and tell it to generate meeting notes
>>539415019>mining bitcoin isn't profitableNot at this price. The fed can pump it to save the economy
>>539415159based
>>539415237>Everything is expensive.That's not true.The Chinese economy is currently in a state of deflation.Real estate prices have fallen by 80%.As a result, young people still can't afford to buy a home.haha
>>539415244checkedas you can see, it never stopped after 2008
>>539410842they'll never let it crash because the wealthy are doing VERY well in this environment. they don't care about the peasants.
>>539415277>Goy crumbs Flock cameras, palintir, youtube induced psychosis. Do you even looshfarm, bro
>>539414075Neoconservatism isn't right wing
>>539415280they already pumped and dumped it anon. bitcoin is dead
>>539415244The real economy is long since fucked. The only way to maintain the fiction is in nominal
>>539415356>it never stopped after 2008exactly, they've run real interest rate repression since 2008 and it's the reason why everything is fucked up and expensive and most people are getting poorer.
>>539410842So happy I will be able to buy a house in a few years.
>>539415452the flock cameras are to keep you barred in 15 minute zones because they fear men leaving their containment zone while they bomb you into total submission through pollution foreigners boomer goblins and so on
>>539411523Don't you have rules forbidding that in common residences?
>>539410842OP, I'm definetly in agreement of a bubble but this may be a bit of a red herring given the inflation that the economy has had, and interest rates are much higher than they were prior to 2008. The govenrment also has had much more debt to finance at these higher rates and the bond market is accounting for that. I think we have another year: OpenAI, Anthropic haven't even IPOed yet.
>>539415336Fun times, honestly. My mom made damn good money there for someone without a high school diploma.
>>539415546>why everything is fucked up and expensivePrice discovery is a bitch. American economy is a house of no cards
>>539413762Elon still won.You can never take that away from him.
>>539414075>>539413624I literally put 1971 in the file name because that's when it started.
>>539410842The jews fear the indoor garloid farmer
>>539415749Real interest rates have never been this negative
>>539414052>companies are making retarded money.AI companies collectively lose 200 million every single quarter. When they try to raise the AI token prices, people stop using their model.
>>539415646>Don't you have rules forbidding that in common residences?Farmers who do that are scoundrels.They’ll start raising chickens again the very second the police leave.But the police can’t arrest you and put you in jail just for raising chickens in an apartment building.Your best option is to move.
>>539415785the american economy still produces quite a bit. The problem is that financialization is out of control. There are a couple of parts to that, one is that there are several large parasitic industries / classes of people in the country that are being supported by the actual productive economy, mainly in government, academia, and especially "health" care. The other related issue is that due to advances in automation coupled with unfettered immigration there isn't enough actual productive work to go around and the social contract / paradigm has not caught up to that fact.
>>539415958It's even more hilarious because they have to raise prices because of the scale of the investment and valuations, which they can't do. Then China dabbed on them with free models further driving down prices. Shit's fucked y0
>>539415336>completely discumgalligumfricated
>>539415749>I think we have another year: OpenAI, Anthropic haven't even IPOed yet.I don't believe OpenAI can reach a $1 trillion valuation.People have already been fooled once by Musk's SpaceX.The later you wait to get out, the more likely you are to lose out.
>>539415781The bailouts were regrettable but is your mom hot?
>>539416160I call that "last one in the pool swims with the turd"
>>539410842I watched a YouTube video on this today. Apparently dodd-frank simply moved high risk lending from banks to private equity. Private equity firms started doing jewish financial magic and setting up insurance companies so they can have infinite money to lend put to high risk clients. The returns are awesome, but they are leveraged on top of leverage, recreating the 2008 precrash structure.
>>539416224She's dead.
>>539410842The stock market is at ATH. America is winning. You lost, tranny
>>539416017>Fictionalized economy Your real economy might be ten percent; yeah I know you made cpus and transistor and once good machines; but 80 years of seigniorage since bretton woods had got you hooked on nothing. That's why you flaming out trying to save the pedodollar
>>539414065This guy gets it>>539415882Rare flag. Thats probably true, but do you really think that they will let the economy crash before all the major AI investors cash out their bags with the other AI IPOs? I dont think so. Also reminder that debt is deflationary, not inflationary, assuming any of it gets paid back. Yes, fiat money, but debts mean much less of it is able to circulate as M2 cash supply because more of it is being paid as interest to other banks on their assets sheet. (The void basically)>>539416160Me neither. Whats really happening is a private equity crash, not just an AI crash. The AI label is a convienient cover. Private paper has been circulating for eons and none of the institutional investors want to get caught holding the bag.
>>539410842It‘s happooning
>>539416289
>>539414124we can see the balance sheets and financial reports. AI is manifesting into real returns. what you just posted happens in almost every market segment btw, this is normal business activity>>539414163the companies losing money aren't seeing massive rises in valuation though. if you disagree, please give me an example.>>539414709>>539415958if you don't know what a growth company is, do not reply to my posts. these companies aren't even publicly traded, lol.
>>539416455Major infrastructure is always funded with fraud: panama canal, worldcom They want the ai for their evil ends. They will pull the plug on retail when it's built
>>539416455>debt deflationWhich gives you the opportunity to money printer for your pals. Stagflation is the result. It annihilates the real economy. Which is nice (for the grand plan)
>>539414124All that investment money goes somewhere. Of course it goes to the manufacturers but it also goes to all the talent they hire. You can't retroactively garnish wages from employees when a company goes bankrupt.But in the world of technology, artificial intelligence is like when America was "discovered." Sure people theorized that it could exist. Now they have some vague idea about it. Nobody knows how big it will really be, but people are racing to find out, and carve up the best territories for themselves. The losers will be inevitably bought out. All the capital isn't going to stick around but the winners will have their license to print money perpetually by just managing some data centers and having the slop.AI program that could.
>>539414065now adjust for inflation
>>539416630>Nuh uh you're wrong because I said so!Oh we have a nigger in the thread.
>>539417233>i have no idea what i'm talking about so i'm going to call this guy a nigger insteadLOL
>>539416335>Your real economy might be ten percent; yeah I know you made cpus and transistor and once good machines; but 80 years of seigniorage since bretton woods had got you hooked on nothingThat's not exactly true, we manufacture more now than we ever did. Most of it is high cost / value add items like machine tools, aerospace, defense etc but it does exist and is real. To say nothing of energy too, we are the world's largest producer. At the same time yes there is far too many derivative financial instruments overwhelming this real economic base, to support the NY-DC parasite axis, and yes the world is diversifying from the dollar as the only currency for international settlements. But it is still the majority and that decline is overstated in places like this. Also remains to be seen if any alternative can actually be trusted, it's possible the USA remains the prettiest ugly girl in a dance full of them.
>>539416808>worldcom
>>539410842NOTHING
>>539410842EVER
>>539410842HAPPENS
>>539410842not yet OP, they will keep propping it up for another couple of years. Just make sure you're liquid before then, only suckers lose money when it pops
>>539416016Here unruly tennants can be forced to leave by a court order if they cause enough shit that upsets most of the other people living in the building. You probably have similar laws.
>>539410994>>539411523What do you think about indoor cattle ranching?
>>539411211in case you aren't totally memeing, you can get foreign bank accounts and cards and/or residency and send your crypto there to pay 0% tax on legally.turkmenistan and paraguay. or georgia if you don't mind being spied on.
>>539410994>>539410974>>539411030Indoor nigger farmer reporting for duty
>>539412857Bretton Woods would have prevented this.
>>539413580It's basically impossible to destroy pryons and you're not doing it with a little salt
>>539413432> No collapse. Nothing.If ANYTHING happens it will be a collapse. This is cerrtain.
>>539414075Not Carter though right? Fuck you
>>539410994What the
>>539417581>We make instruments of destruction You have failed to monetize your murder. Bond devaluation has made holding them too expensive for foreign central banks. That's why they been dumping and buying gold. Sure gold cannot work to underpin global trade. The system is going down. I know you want to believe in your country. The rest of us are gatvol of pax americana and cannot pretend you are a force for good
>>539418168It's not the salt, it's the time. No complex molecule is stable forever at earth temperature
>>539415873Dude, shut the fuck up.We shouldn't be broadcasting our stratagems in public.This is to be done quietly and in private.For example, what if I just outright told people about my National Socialist home school group?Could you imagine glowies knowing that I'm instilling the tenets of National Socialism into little kids?The freak out would be incredible.Just, cool it a bit is all I'm saying,
>>539410974The Greek anon is back.He will never pay again to eat.
>>539417916>similar lawsYou need to sue them.It’ll take you at least a few years to get a resolution.Even if you win the case, it’ll take a long time for the court to enforce the ruling.In fact, most people don’t stick it out that long—they’ve already moved away by then.Of course, you could just stab your jerk of a neighbor to death—as long as you’re not afraid of going to jail.
>>539416302>we all goin’ be rich!
>>539410842It's amazing it took just 14 years for the GOP to destroy the country
>>539420191>idiot lefttard cant into mafimagine my shock
>>539420448>eslimagine my shock
>>539420523go the fuck back to plebbit, you're not from here
>>539410842They will just paper it over, covertly bailout the too big to fails, prices across the bord will increase 25% and the low IQ Goyim will get a 8% "good Wagie" raise and then clap and cheer like traind seals.
>>539420637>summer fag sperging outkek
No we're not, GOLDEN AGE has arrived and you lost tranny
>>539410842>reading the tea leaves
>>539410974imagine the smell
>>539410842Were the silver and gold retards right? Is it too late to cash in my 401k at a taxed loss and buy some coins or something?
>>539420883Of course stackers are rightIt's never too late, it's the best time to buy with the huge dip of the past months
>>539420883>Were the silver and gold retards right?you will know unequivocally as the counterfeiting ops spiral out of control
>>539418280>I know you want to believe in your country. The rest of us are gatvol of pax americana and cannot pretend you are a force for goodDon't strawman me, I never said any of that. I'm interested in objective truth, which often runs counterfactual to the sky is falling narratives on here. No political entity is a force for good, it's a force for the interests of the elites it serves, that's it. The rest is propaganda. I agree that the system is showing a lot of strain, and is likely reaching the end of its useful life. That's normal and expected as history shows. But it still doesn't mean we will know exactly when that will happen, or how it will play out. Unless you are a connected insider.
>>539418527Of course. It takes forever and shit because you are infringing on their rights and whatever, but if you own a place you might have no choice. After all, riff raff like that brings down the value of your realestate too if you ever wanted to sell it.Or just convince them with a baseball bat like you say.
>>539410842You think that things are bad now? The U.S. Congress will be forced to fund massive omnibus spending bills between 2028 and 2032 to avert Social Security going bankrupt. The meltdown hasn’t even started yet.
>>539410842
>>539414075>Really started going crazyThere are levels of escalation to thingsThere's a difference between>There are no longer any brakesAnd>We are now at the level of speed where a crash will be fatal for everyone involved
>>539410842We will wish it will be another 2008.
>>539422750>everything is gonna crash>sure, the last 20 times we said it, it didn't happen>but this time for surekek
>>539413624>what happened around 2000alan greenspan declared that the function of the government is to manage asset bubbles so that bankers can own everything
>>539414065>Rates were held artificially low for several years. It's a good thing that they finally started to go up.rates are totally artificial and used by the banks to buy everything
>>539414483>People are dumb but they're not "oh we fucked up the whole economy 15 years ago let's do it again" dumbits not stupid, its a plan to steal everything
>>539410974Tim pool fan spotted
Nothing drastic ever happens.
>>539424182The world has all types and that's great and all. Wealthy people are generally either generous or greedy, but there's some overlap. Greedy people like to take as much as possible, like if your employer knows inflation is outpacing wage growth, and loves it since it just makes him that much richer especially when he raises prices. Generous people know that money is only as good as what it buys: a nicer house, a nicer community, a better quality of life.What you're seeing now, Trump's shadowy inflow of billions, Elon's stock valuation and inventory shellgame, Oracle's big buy-in, it's all the billionaire clique making a game out of greed. The objective of the game is to get your "net worth" as high as possible no matter the cost to society. The irony is great.
debt-based currencies ONLY FUCKING BENEFIT THE PRIVATE ISSUER---IN THIS CASE, THE NYFED (debt-based currency does not benefit the citizens nor the national treasury)>fucking frauds
>>539410842Lol Im broke anyway
>>539416253>leveraged on top of leverageThis is the key to understanding how fucked the system is in 21st century.Post-1970s global economy is Financialized. 1999 repeal of Glass-Steagall officially made the global investment banks into casinos.All wealth today is generated from (no, not 'labor' 'capital' or 'work') *speculative debt instruments*.It's a totally debt-founded and -based economic model. Everything rests on the global perceived and real actual confidence in the debt market.Nobody is buying the debt, right now. Global debt aka bond market has been more unstable and volatile in the past four years than in half a century (and, that long ago the global debt was one-twelfth the magnitude it is in 2026).
>>539425433hi anon, what did you think of Warsh's recent testimony?
>>539410842If China don't fix this, we'll both be in troubllleeeeee
>>539425605Boomsticks > Pussy > Bussy > food/shelter/gadgets > Shiny rocks
>>539423760this is a common complaint about zerohedgemore or less telling you that fundamentals dont matter when they can be ignored
>>539426785
>>539427606If we're being honest Creditism has replaced Capitalism. most people can't even begin to comprehend what that means
>>539427606>File :(glad to see my messaging on /pol/ has been getting out)
>>539414065>>539417022The inflation problem is BECAUSE the rates are low. See the rest of this comment. >>539423964But the rates WERE held artificially low. They were held low right after the 2008 financial crisis for a few reasons:> to encourage investment in stocks> in an attempt to avoid the consequences of too much debt.Especially the second one. The government generates massive amounts of new debt; but they don't have the ability to pay for it; so they keep the rate low as a way to avoid having to pay the real interest on the debt.Meanwhile, with rates artificially low, those who live within their means are punished, and forced (via inflation) to pay the way not only for the bad actors but for people who want to act irresponsibly. Every single economic problem in the US right now is a result of the out of control debt. Until that problem is addressed, nothing will get better
>>539410842Zoom out.
>>539427930bro I have a whole folder of your stuffkeep doing gods work, fren
>>539427807it means debt is the currency of slavesgold is the money of kingssilver is the money of gentlemenbarter is the currency of peasantscounterfeit money is the currency of those who are about to be slavescredit/debt is the money of outright slaves
>>539428013facts
>>539428013>government generates massive amounts of new debt; but they don't have the ability to pay for it(RE: U.S. fedgov spending) Fully half the $2+ trillion U.S. annual budget instantly goes <poof!> to Interest Payments on the debt. Half of federal spending today = Interest PaymentsGlobal debt topped $255 trillion in 2019 and $350 trillion in 2025, almost four times the amount of all global economic output. Public debt—sovereign debt of governments—in 2026 comprises ninety-four percent of the entire global economy; IMF predicts in three years that reaches one hundred percent. World governments soon will owe as much as the entire global economy produces in 12 months duration. Total debtlevels and deficit spending of the past 30 years has eclipsed that of the past few centuries of western civilization, and absurdly low and negative interest rate borrowing costs have incentivized national governments to no longer gorrow on the expectation that they will repay, but rather the expectation that they will refinance.(see above >>539426785 : it's a Debt-Based Economic Model)
>>539428175Thank you fren. Glad to hear the message is out there
>>539428255none of these things matter because all of them can be debased for creditism. if gold was legit it should already be at 10k. yet despite us obviously sinking into a global recession it's value has dropped considerably
>>539428418>gorrow*borrow
it's a buy signal if you see threads like that on 4chun
>>539411695>Biggest customer cancels 80% of their ordersSurely that wouldn't be a bad thing.
>Oh no>banks won't be able to print infinite money for free because it costs nothing to borrowfuck off niggergive me 10% ex-soviet republic nigger bonds RIGHT NOW
>>539410842The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. But eventually the house of cards collapses. Bonds, AI bubble, who knows? And if those derivatives are affected, then it will be an apocalypse. Are you ready?
>>539428495>debased for creditism(You)r broad point is correct, because the global system is a debt-based economic model (irrespective of where real value is held and resides).Yes: it is proper to focus—for the purpose of our individual nations and sovereign governments—on *sound money*. We must and need to do that.Problem is that this corrupt global system is run by central banks that are the lenders and buyers of last resort. They *thrive on* continuous creation of debt = permanent slavery of all 160 nations and their citizens worldwide.Central banks control the monetary polic—and by default the treasuries, and governments—of every nation.
>>539428776>monetary policmonetary policy*
>muh collapse>muh replacement raterefer to the picture. even if your job has a 90% death rate there is another lemming lined up to replace you. there are way too many people for everyone to be happy, healthy, and taken care of.
>>539428418A coordinated plan to physically destroy dollars would go a long way, for example:> every dollar seized during drug raids are publicly burned and destroyed.Meanwhile, every year the US government pays interest on dollars hidden away in foreign safes and bunkers
>>539428886These British electronic music guys, the KLF, made something close to the dumbest song of all timehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DsAVx0u9Cw4a few years later they took their money and burned one million pounds sterlingBut realistically we're in Modern Monetary Times and taxation exists only to purge money from the economy, and money is then issued out to spend on whatever.
>>539428886Yes (the dollar is being debased) but the problem is that entire global system relies on UST for all transactions particularly in debt.At current spending rates $2+ trillion/annum the U.S. Treasury and American federal government will hit the brick wall of Total Default in four years. The global UST-based bond market won't last that long This current system was set up at Bretton Woods 1944. It did not start out eighty years ago to be one in which the entire world became dependent on 1 single default reserve denomination, but—through a series of events and decisions over the post-WWII decades—here we are.Nobody is buying the debt, right now. Keep watching the 10-year yield
>>539413762SpaceX isn’t undervalued though. They’re remarkably successful and have been consistently for decades now.
>>539410842>weching chong ping pong duuuuuh muh opahn weigh model is sooo guuuuud. okay i finish 72 howa of shillin taim fo one minute bweak befo next week of 72 howa shillin. ou 9-9-6 model is best for wurkah
>>539429246oh yeah SpaceX is going to truly change everyone's lives when they find a race of super hot all female aliens who want to fuckyeah nah that shits worthless
>>539428836That's what collapse IS you nerd. This exact lemming situation you just described.
>>539413624Started in the 80's with Reagan and his gigantic debt spending. Came to a head with the dot com bubble and then 9/11, the 2008 Housing Crisis, and all the bullshit going on now post-Covid.
>>539429228I'm not entirely pessimistic. It's not just a question of how strong the currency is, but how strong the currency is relative to everyone else. The US will remain the last house to collapse, so it will still be stronger than most other currencies. Not to mention, there is a 'break glass' way out for the US if push ever came that close to shove. It's a solution which requires saving the US at the cost of destroying the rest of the world; which is why no one will ever talk about it.>>539429182You didn't lie. That's a pretty bad song.
You've been bamboozled by word-kikes again.
>>539429464>collapse is when there's too much supplyok pal lol
>>539413624>>539429592
>>539429641I already answered you 20 seconds before you posted.
>>539429601They had the master plan to write the most generic club banger possible for the late 80s and promote the shit out of it, they released it under a fake name.They documented how they did it all and released "the manual" which was their guide to making #1 club hits. Make it short, make it dumb, drive that hook home, and then market the living fuck out of it.
>>539410974This is antisemetic.
>>539429725the I applaud their successful use of the system. Good story.
>>539429601You're right in that no one can predict exactly what will happen, or how/the sequence in which it will occur.Based on my observations and analysis there will be a currency crisis that might precede the global debt market implosion. Either way this system has gone way beyond any sustainability and is running on fumes.>stronger>most other currencies>relativismSee my posts above. Yes USD is the tallest midget in the room. Doesn't matter when the entire system is debt-based (and all the nations' global currencies are fiat anyway) and moreover when the UST/USD is the one everyone actually requires.Analysis of this overall global situation from a forex market perspective alone is insufficient>break glass(see first line of this post) When global confidence in the debt—bond—market, that is founded on UST, expires everything is over. Pretty much instantly. No safeguards are in place for it anywhere.(as posited above if ? worldwide currency crisis is the catalyst for a debt market implosion, that is a scale and size of cataclysm and chaos beyond control of central banks let alone the Fed)
>>539429668I don't give a fuck about the debt quantity, I care about my QOL. And that is dependent on the system sustaining itself. Your chart masks the true problem, which only materialized during late COVID when the Fed KIKES jacked the interest rate through the roof to cash in trillions in interest payment transfers from taxpayers to the usery class. The absolute debt number doesn't matter in the sense that it is not the most consequential variable in the equation that's spelling our impending demise as a society. What's not sustainable is the interest that we are currently paying on that debt. And that step-functioned up very hard in the name of controlling inflation circa 2022. This inflation of course was artificially created to cause this very situation. We are balls deep into the biggest wealth transfer in human history right now, and it's not going to slow down or go away. The only question is what are they going to use this as a springboard for. My guess is WW3.
>>539428495>if gold was legit it should already be at 10kif central banking was legit, maybebut central banking is a core tenet of the communist manifestothis is why the paper markets are there to suppress the physical marketsdont worry though, this charade wont continue for too much longer
>>539430292>catastrophic event is coming SOON to fix our overpopulation issuesyeah right bro
>>539430363>charadeindeed it is
>>539428483you've got plenty of fans herethe more people know about this, the more we point
>>539415062>younger people can't afford a home.Today I will remind them
>>539430471>the more people know about this, the more we pointThat's all I ever wanted or intended anonMore power to us(That graphic is from this >>539425433 <--anon)
>>539410842>Get out of the damn stock market, mutual fundsstock market yes, mutual funds nomany funds hold treasury notes
>>539429668raise ya hand if you knew the counterfeiting houses were about to go belly up when ronas came along and provided massive amounts of funding for them to abscond with
>>539430172> In general reply:I would, as always, look to the Panic of 1837, especially as it played out in Michigan, as a crystal ball into what happens if/when things collapse; and how it can come about.I am a hobby historian, and have a remarkably narrow field of interest (Michigan between 1810-1860). The series of events which began with Jackson killing the Bank of The United States, and ended with every bank in the state closed with the state itself insolvent; shows remarkably clear similarities to some of what's going on now, including:> How all of the advantages of fractional reserve banking will come back to bite you in the ass on the other end of the transaction> How a crisis of confidence can wipe out an entire industry> The absolute and clear limits of any government to do anything to stop it> How a society contracts when there is no more currencyFor example, see chart for how banks were created under Michigan's bank association law of 1837. When the banks first opened, everyone rushed in for the chance to print 2.5 times the capital with only 30% down; but when the collapse started to happen, they discovered that they had to repay that 2.5 times their capital, which of course no one could.> break glassIt would come down to recognizing that people don't hold notes from the US Government; they hold notes from the Federal Reserve Bank. A lot of people confuse or forget this part, and it usually doesn't matter, but there are times when it does.
>>539410842How do we get mortgage rates back to covid levels?
>>539430777genocide.the breakdown of births/deaths/immigration/new homes to USA results in a net negative 1 million homes per year, not including homes that are no longer livable
>>539410842Shhhh, let the boomers keep pumping. I want them to go broke so I don't have to deal with them being eternal tourists. These niggers have so much money they go to rural nojobz towns and pretend they're in Vegas. They need to be taken down a peg and they honestly deserve it.Remember, never show sympathy to anyone that calls themselves a landlord.
>>539427541My life is supposed to be over 10 times already, yet here we both are.At one point, it's just the boy who cried wolf.
If i were trump id try to executive order freeze all credit card interest for at least a year. I know this guy at work who's done bankruptcy in 2024 already has multiple ccs 2000 3000 700 here and there and he never pays it. He tells me its the American way and hang ups on debt collectors. He told me he spent like 3gs on diecast toy cars on what not trying to get chadrs. this guy's a redneck by the way lol
>>539430923indeedI too have almost died way too many times over
>>539430769I'd agree that there are strong similarities to U.S. 1800s in the mechanics of it.Unfortunately for not just America but the entire world, 1944 >>539429228 changed the whole global context and economic/monetary system which is now vastly more complex and ponzied.
>>539414052Ah yes, this is where we play word games about profit vs revenue and ignore reported losses. Also routers sold during the dot com bust era would route packets properly as long as they were setup correctly. AI randomly spews bullshit and it's admitted to be a permanent issue because it operates on probability. You can send mission critical data over a cisco router to this day. Will you be letting AI do open heart surgery on you when it can randomly shit itself and start slashing you up like a maniac 1 out of every 100 times?AI is a worse bubble than dotcom because it's 1 step above flat out fraud and a massive waste of energy and computer components. It's a broken, dangerous product that the tech industry needs to sell to save face and stay alive financially. Keeping up illusions is all they have, because the software industry peaked over a decade ago and there is no innovation besides rent seeking subscription models.
>>539416630Post the balance sheets and prove your point. I don't think you will. Hard facts are tough for the AI cargo cult.
>>539414208Pic rel>>539427606Quality info graphic, saved. Amazing how we are so disconnected from reality that we're trading paper of paper. IOUs of IOUs>>539414052This was already quality rage bait, you didn't have to go and ruin it by doubling down >>539416630>>539415511Thank you for doing the needful sar
>>539430769>>539431308For those interested in such things, the years 1837-1843 were also times of criminality on a scale not seen before or since. The stories that came out of the bank examiner's report were a constant source of humor, including:> the one bank whose 'reserve specie' wound up being a strongbox full of broken glass and iron with a thin row of coins on top> the time a cashier and president of a bank got into a fistfight when fell out into the street over the key to the vault> the one bank who faked their own specie certificate, and then used their own notes as the 'specie' to create four other banks> the railroad company which never intended to build a railroad, instead using the banking clause of its charter to open a bank> then men who rode ahead of the bank examiner to move the specie from one bank to the next during the inspection roundsside note: possibly the only honest man in the state of Michigan during that time was the bank examiner, Alpheus Felch. When he made his rounds, he busted nearly every bank, and the fraud he exposed resulted in nearly every bank of the state being shut down. His honesty was rewarded by his being elected governor. But he was too honest for the Michigan legislature, so they 'promoted' him to the US senate, where he could do no harm.
>>539429668I’m so fucking tired. I’m confused on a daily basis at how this impending absolute catastrophe knowledge has not spiritually broken every normal person. If’s extremely hard to motivate myself to operate at the level needed for me to sustain my profession knowing the blackhole nightmare that will be unfolding in the coming decades.How do the normies do it? How do they just not care that their entire way of life has been stolen from their children. I wish I could erase my mind and not know what I know today.
>>539431758>savedAnon, check out these search terms in archive.4plebs>financialization>central bank
>>539431846Also, there was the same kind of political insanity as their is now:> 1838, the economic world is collapsing> the democrats, who were in charge when all the bad laws were passed, want to pass the blame> so they claim it's the fault of the whigsPeak crazy is when a handful of merchants agreed to take notes from already-failed banks just to keep the whigs from appearing to have been right
>>539431868it helps when you're a stoic
>>539428418what's the fucked level at?any books or other recommended reading?
>>539431758at this point they're modeling the collapse just like they modeled corona a month or two before it happened
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>>539410842>cryptocurrencyJUSTUST
>>539431569>it's 1 step above flat out fraudI'd just call it flat out fraud.AI is the biggest magnitude financial scam in the history of human civilization
>>539410842you're fucking stupid, learn to read a chart, nigger
>>539417483he's right though, jamboy
thats a weejly chart btw, want monthly. You stupid fucking cunt
>>539432089Stocicism is literally just coping with cortisol all day. It's shit.
