Why is it so bad to live with parents at 35?
>>539415050Twitter screenshot thread isn't politics
because it shows that you aren't moving forward in life
>>539415205Why is that bad?
>>539415500same thing as why people being on welfare is bad. You aren't contributing to society and just leeching off others. Society isn't sustainable if too many people leech off the system.
>>539415050Hes pretending that its a lazy choice instead of sensible when rent is atrocious.
>>539415721society doesn't provide jobs that pay well enough to afford modern inflated rent prices
>>539415721Make society worth participating in, then
>>539415205There is no moving forward in life for many. Just directionless existence until we grow old and die.
>>539415205>>539415721If a man started "contibuting" and working a job at 18, he'd need at least until 35 to make anough money to buy a basic bitch house in the bumfuck nowhere. That is, if he doesn't slave himself away to a sizeable interest based loan to live in a slightly less shitty house/apartment.
>>539415050Scott seems like a total faggot
>>539415833well people in poor countries move out despite having less disposable income after rent.
Because past the age of 18 you're an adult and should be out trying to make something of yourself. By the time you're 30 you should have secured a career and a wife. By the time you're 35 you should be a family man.Living with your parents when you should already have kids of your own is a clear indicator that you're a complete failure.
>>539415721Its already unsustainable, contributing just drags out the collapse.
>>539415050Depends on where and what kind of house your parents live in i suppose
>>539416225you should be able to afford a down payment after 5 years of saving. Nobody buys a house all in cash, retard.
>>539416235Families in poor countries cram into the same houses they've owned for generations, you're an idiot. This whole expectation of having to move out and live on your own at 18 is strictly a 20th century America thing, and it was never sustainable.
>>539416081how? Anything you suggest is basically communism.
>>539416256If women no longer want kids, who are the men supposed to have kids with?
>>539416235>well people in poor countries move out despite having less disposable income after rent.No they fucking don't what the fuck are you talking about??? It's super common to live three generations to a house in poor countries.
>>539416355they have 20 people to a house? Clearly not. People in poor countries get married and start families. They also have multiple siblings usually so they can't all own the house.
>>539415205Life ends at 26 anyways. After that there's nothing to "progress" to, as aging chips away at every effort you makeThe boomer myth of retirement and "golden ears" was a myth intended to cover this up and get you to keep working til you're 65 so you can finally "peak" then
>>539416337a down payment, yes, but that leaves the rest of the payments (also far higher) and insurance (way, way higher) required by lenders and taxes (higher in both valuation and percentage)
>>539416465mortgage payments are way cheaper than renting.You sound mad that you can't own a house free and clear at 25 when that has never been the case in modern history. Even boomers had mortgage payments.
>>539416256And by the time you're 50 the kids are grown up and wife has left you. Now you've got another 40 years waiting for death. Why did science give us all these extended decades at the end no one gives a shit about, but do nothing to extend our primes or reproductive years?
>>539415721>you arent contributing to the society that hates youWomp womp suck your commie governments dick some more you faggot
>>539416235You don't know what you are talking about at all. America is one of the only countries where moving out at 18 is considered ""normal"'
>>539415205>I didnt read the post and immediately came here to comment for attention. I post here 14 hours a day and I'm in every thread and I have an opinion on everything.
>>539416337The average home price in Ontario is over $1m. What kind of job do you think anyone is working where they can save up $100k+ for a down payment after just 5 years, let alone someone in their 20s/early 30s?
>>539415205The world is moving backward so I don’t see treading water as a loss. Every parent with a 35 year old at home was warned things would turn out this way since before that 35 year old was born and do nothing to stop it.
>>539416669I think he may be retarded
>>539416376So?
>>539416583This is some seriously low quality wannabe Dave Ramsey boomer bait.
>>539416603I'm not saying you need to move out at 18 but living at home at 35 isn't the answer either.
>>539416704He has narcissistic personality diisorder.
>>539416752I'm not wrong though
>>539416845You 100% are wrong
>>539416669Toronto isn't all of Ontario, retard
>>539415050>no goy don't live with your family, you have to move away and pay rabbi his rent money
>>539416799Has a luke warm iq also
>>539416909nothing wrong with living with family, but you can't do it forever. So what's the plan for later?
35 is middle aged for men. By 35, you should have developed a trade, craft, vocation, or some sort of obligation and be in the full swing of it. Many will not have that in modern times, but you should at least have a skill and a job to be able to secure a living. This isn’t the full story though because traditionally it was your parents who to some degree were responsible for cultivating this. If you made it to 18 and your dad never taught you any skills or trades or crafts that could get you paid and didn’t pay for your education to enter a specific career then your parents failed you. This is like the 2nd most essential obligation of a parent next only to keeping you out of the grave, prison, or the street. But we all grew up with parents who are retards that didn’t give a fuck. They cared about themselves and were lazy, so they slept their way through their education and careers, went home and sat in front of the boob tube, and never taught you shit. They spent more time trying to make their mediocre kids into professional baseball players than teaching them a realistic way to make a living. They figured it would just work out because they didn’t care enough to realize otherwise and meet their obligations. If your dad was a lawyer, you should’ve been on the path to becoming a lawyer by 16. If your dad was a banker, you should have been on the path to becoming a banker by 16. If you dad was a mechanic, you should’ve been on the path to becoming a mechanic by 16. They didn’t do this. So once again, boomers are the real problem.
>>539416982You can literally do it forever until they die
>>539415050no incentive. the rest of the world has already solved this problem, if you want privacy you get a love hotel.
>>539416583Mortgage payments aren't the only cost of home ownership, you lying leaf.When you rent you pay the rent and maybe utilities.When you "own" you pay rent 1 (your mortgage with the bank), rent 2 (your property taxes), your utilities (all of them), and upkeep and maintenance fees for the property (lawn care, roof care, walls, appliances, the list goes on).Mind you that in that "ownership" case, you still lose everything you put into it if you miss a few property tax payments, or if the government decides to build a highway or date center in that nice data center-shaped forest next to your back yard.Rent is an infinite black hole but at least it's an honest infinite black hole.
>>539417026you have to pray they don't end up in a nursing home. And if you have siblings then you won't be owning the house outright as they will own some too.
>>539416890>t. hasn't actually looked at housing prices in 15 yearsOshawa, a city an hour+ on the highway from Toronto, is a universally mocked city, with the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country and the second highest rate of unemployment in the country. It also has a known problem with biker gangs and fent zombies.The average Oshawa housing price is $700k.
>>539415050Because if you're 24 living with parents, its forgivable, it's okay. You can do it and it's a variation of normal, but still normal.If you're 35 still living with parents, you're officially not supposed to. There's no part of the normie script that allows you to take it this far. You're officially going off script, and doing something you're not supposed to. I don't know the exact maximum, but at 35 it's for sure not acceptable.That being said I don't give a shit about following a set of rules, and neither should you.
>>539416990Yeah, my parents were "present but absent." There for me when I needed them, but didn't teach my anything. Dad left when I was a kid. Now I'm a failure to launch.
>>539417102>. And if you have siblings then you won't be owning the house outright as they will own some too.Yes siblings complicates things, but it doesn't change the underlying reality:Family living together is a good thing. It is only in like weird western boomer culture that this is seen as a bad thing. Look at the prodigal son. We are somehow in the upside down world where the one who leaves home and acts like a nigger is doing the good thing
>>539415721Dude fuck most people in society today. Why would I contribute to boomers and jews and niggers and queers and feminists? Fuck you idiot
>>539417126prices will come down soon. The post is directed at 35 year olds. Most people here are going to be in their 20 still and it' fine to be at home still.
>>539416337I have 80k on savings. I was making 25 an hour. I can't even get a fucking trailer home.
>>539417224yes but with families, it's always one person living with the parents and the siblings have moved out. If parents die and house deed gets transferred to the kids, the siblings aren't going to be ok with one sibling living there for free forever. They will force a sale and you now have to live elsewhere.
>>539415050Living with your parents generally implies immaturity and a lack of ability to be self sufficient. You still need mommy and daddy to wipe your poopy butthole.It's pathetic.
>>539417258>prices will go down soon>disregard inflation and stagnant wages>disregard massive influx of migs to the west>disregard growing oligarchy buying up residental plots in other countriesPut the news back on and enjoy your delusion tardboi
>>539417099I afford it so I am happy. Just bought a massive spa and I put it on my freshly poured patio extension next to my pool.
>>539415050I will never understand why white men ramble on like this instead of just killing all the browns and beating all the women who try to stop them.
>>539417310Dude, FHA loans are like 1.5% down
>>539415050how insecure you must be to include your height and IQ in your username
>>539416990Yep. Boomers grew up in a world of untold luxury and abundance, and just never bothered to teach our generation anything at all. I don't know a single person who works in the same field their parents did. Every single career trajectory is basically "pointless retail work for all your 20s, maybe get a lucky break with an office job in your 30s where you make 1/5th of what your parents did when they were 23".
>>539417348>If parents die and house deed gets transferred to the kids, the siblings aren't going to be ok with one sibling living there for free forever.That's all a case by case negotiation. There's not a simple resolution. Depends on what the parents think and the siblings also
>>539417310Your credit rating? Let me guess, usury is jewish so you dont engage with it.Interest is the price you pay to increase your credit score. Get some proper debt, service it and you will have banks begging for your 10% down.
>>539415721just kill the retarded female voting rights, stupid marriage law and revoke divorce law. few female getting abused by their husbands is a acceptable cost for rest for the men to have a hole to fuck and love with their full autonomy. women are children and nothing good comes out of them apart from being a hole for husband and almost 90% of husbands are safe, non-violent and loving and can make better decision for females than they themselves. and also kill all the jews and ban degeneracy in public and porn because if you don't kill them they will bring it all back.
>>539415050>zoomers in their mid 30s...We're millennials.
>>539417258>prices will come down soonI remember hearing this in 2008...I experienced nothing but rugpull after rugpull from society
>>539415050I'm 35, got a house and moved my mom in. She pays half the mortgage. Landlords kept raising her rent every year so living on her own became unaffordable. Because I only pay half mortgage now the cheddar stacks easily and I have way more financial flexibility. If I do things correctly I can pay off this house before I'm 40. The only downside is this gives women the ick, but being previously burned I really don't care what they think and haven't pursued a relationship for 6 years. In fact, the idea of letting some whore come in and take over what I've worked for sounds appalling. The world is very different now, don't let others tell you how to live and what you should value.
>>539417482Usury IS jewish and I don't engage with it.If I can't buy a thing in cash I don't buy it, simple as.
>>539417501Us poor bastards...
>>539416355>This whole expectation of having to move out and live on your own at 18 is strictly a 20th century America thing, and it was never sustainable.yes. this ties directly to jewish mindset of selling goyim new house every generation and looting their dying parent's house. So many things in America is based off of jewish scheming. it mind boggling. From worshiping dead kike on cross to tipping culture. Gay as zogland.
>>539417348p.s. i'm not arguing that doing nothing with your life is good, i'm just saying that living with family is fundamentally good when available because you have safety and efficient economics and other things that are generally just good... not something to be looked down on in any way
>>539415050The parasite class pulled up the ladder on jobs and affordable housing and gaslight those affected. Standard hubris tactic to quell the cognitive dissonance, though historically that just fast tracks them to the guillotines.
>>539417442then you're paying monthly bills on 98.5% of the cost, retard. cash flow is cash flow and if you don't have the money up front you definitely don't have it on an ongoing basis
>>539416990>They spent more time trying to make their mediocre kids into professional baseball players than teaching them a realistic way to make a living.Literally me but soccer. My dad wanted me to play in the world cup, he only had kids to feed his own ego. He is a carpenter and took the fun out of working. When I was a kid he would get drunk on friday then angerwork on Saturday during a hangover, yelling at me while he was building a deck or whatever. Basicalky I got brainwashed into thinking that work is an evil tribulation that is meant for suffering and tears. He also never actually taught me carpentering because he and my mom didn't want me to ever be independent of them, he just treated everyone like a slave and I learned nothing from him, and I want him to die.
ngl, I learned a lot of things when I moved out. and again learned a lot of things when i bought my house.
I make a top 10-20% income and still live at home. Why wouldn't I?
>>539417474>Depends on what the parents think and the siblings alsoParents will be dead, and you siblings are not going to leave hundreds of thousands of dollars on the table for nothing.
>>539417197That describes all parents of Millenials and Gen Z parents. Their parents were narcissists. In so far as they cared or did anything it was feel good bullshit that was actually for themselves. They put effort into coaching kids’ baseball because it would stroke their ego and satiate their ridiculous interests if their kid went pro. But they never gave a fuck if their kid earned a decent living. They don’t get any ego boost from that. In fact. A lot of boomer dads saw their kids as competition, and still do. They actually want their kids to struggle so they can feel like they are just better. The good news is that it’s not too late to make something of your life regardless of their baggage. The one silver lining of our time is freedom of movement and zero reasons to care about normative expectations or social stigma. If you find yourself at 33 without a decent income or something like that, you can just realize that and dedicate a few years to entering a respectable career. And yes, it will be a slog and the fruits will be lesser than what your parents were afforded but it just is what it is. At the end of the day, this life is a string of finite moments and all we really get to do is choose how to allocate those moments. Whether you’re religious or atheist, it stands to reason the optimal way to allocate those moments is in ways that are worthwhile. So regardless of your age or what pathetic fuck ups your parents were, at any given moment the prudent thing to do is to live that out vocationally. Pick something worth doing, dedicate yourself to it, and make your life count. You may never reach the heights you could’ve if you had been raised into it, or found it at 25, but this is still your best option at any given moment. And a lot of us are just going at it alone. My dad abandoned me when I was 14, and my mom didn’t know shit and wasn’t a good mom. It took me until 30s to figure this out. Still glad I did.
>>539417388Askers?
>>539417258>prices will come down soonyou're a joke, that's like saying "taxes will come down soon, they're high because its a bubble"of course you will not understand the correlation and will think i'm not making sense or lying. im done.
>>539417627I agree, but you can't do it forever and will have to move out eventually. People don't think about that. Complaining about how society sucks won't change that.
>>539415050>IQ 187Lol
>>539417677Just going to ignore my posts? Cant come up with anything to refute said points?
>>539417258>prices will come down soonBased upon what? Why do you think this?Anon, if you weren't a retarded troll, you would know that unlike most countries, Canada has 40% of its GDP directly tied up in real estate. The prices will never, EVER come down here in any meaningful way.
>>539417677>Parents will be deadyes but they leave a will and there is a common understanding, so it depends what you have worked out with them
>>539416256>By the time you're 30 you should have secured a career and a wife. By the time you're 35 you should be a family man.I have a career but forget about the wife and family shit. Dont want to deal with some high body count woman at my age. Why do so many forces in society so desperately try to make me do this?
>>539417644Ok retard. 13 years of payments and I made bank to pay cash for the second. What a fucking jewish trick!
>>539416337>Nobody buys a house in cashI don't know in what kind of kiked out countey you live, but I'm in a process of savin for a house, in order to buy it with cash only in about 4-5 years. If you need to pay back a loan for your house then you are not the owner of that house, simple as.
>>539417714they have to because people literally can't afford 800K for a house.
im turning 35 next month and I live with my parents. I'm a neet too. Lifes good
>>539415050because you need to get in debt, and buy your own home, to be your own man. no generational living for you, goy. now get out there and spur the economy
>>539417760parents are never going to leave the whole house to one kid.
>>539415050Generational wealth and strong family units are antisemitic.
>>539417773I meant cash as in no bank loan. You pay full price out of pocket.
>>539417549>The only downside is this gives women the ickIt only gives white women the ick. Ethnics love that shit.
>>539417782>they have too>people cant afford 800k>but youre a loser if you dontHahahaha
>>539417782people can, they are that price because they are selling for that price, that's the whole point of market prices. nobody would say "a home in X area is 800K" if they didn't sell for that price.demand is literally equal to supply at that price. the amount of houses for sale is literally equal to the amount of people who can afford that, that's the whole point.i was wondering if you'd figure out what i mean by comparing it to taxes, and you dont even know something much simpler than that. jfl at the average person.
>>539416990obligations are for good goys and workist cattle
all families should chip in and renovate their homes to be explicitly multigenerational. talking ancient roman villa with multiple family wings and single common cooking and cleaning area multigenerationalput the property in a trust for future generations to ensure it never gets pawned by one idiot son
>>539417866>You pay full price out of pocketYes. That is literally the only sensible way to pay for a house, unles you can pay in installments, without interest. But that is onky for the Jews using Jewish banks.
>>539417782And that's when 1) megacorporations swoop in, buy them up, and then rent them out to people so they are forced to be infinite paypigs2) a family of 20 Indians pools their money together and buys the house because they are used to lower standards of living3) Chinese people buy it as a tax shelterPick one of the three, anon. You clearly don't actually understand how bad the situation actually is and the reality of it.
>>539417832in many cases, for example, the parents have some mix of cash and property, so often you can get more by the fact you have lived with the parents and taken care of them, and then just give up the cash to get the house, maybe giving up a relatively small amount of your own money to pay them off. If your siblings don't hate you, they'd generally prefer a painless cash payoff then having to deal with all the annoying stuff that comes with selling the house
get a job, retard
>>539415050>height and IQ in nameRegardless of whether it's true or not, it means you can safely disregard anything this person says.
>>539417961Hey retard, see here:>>539418031>1) megacorporations swoop in, buy them up, and then rent them out to people so they are forced to be infinite paypigs>2) a family of 20 Indians pools their money together and buys the house because they are used to lower standards of living>3) Chinese people buy it as a tax shelter
>>539417988Your parents will never do that. You young guys have to understand and accept that it’s on you because your parents genuinely don’t care about you like that. They tolerate you, and they like you when it strokes their ego, but that’s it. They will never go above and beyond to secure futures for their progeny beyond like the requirements and stuff that makes them feel good.
>>539417099Pure retardation. The apartment I used to live in in a 50k people town in the midwest was $750 a month 10 years ago. The same apartment with no updates to it is now $1400 a month last I checked. My mortgage payment on a 300k home, with escrowed taxes and insurance, is $1190 a month. 4 bedrooms. Taxes and insurance are mostly stable and my monthly payment increases by maybe $5 a year. That apartment is gonna keep skyrocketing. That $2400 I save a year more than covers maintenance/once-in-two-decades expenses like a new roof.You're a fucking moron if you rent by choice rather than by need.
>>539418079I am 6ft4 in your imperial measurement system and never had the need to tell this to anyone before writing this post
>>539417782Boomers will collateral their equity for a loan to fund their end of life before they sell for less than the valuation
>>539416452Yes, multigenerational housing>but they cant!They do
>>539418031>megacorporations swoop in, buy them up, and then rent them out to people so they are forced to be infinite paypigsIf people can't afford a home, don't you think those corporations are then doing people a favor by doing that? I mean, they're not a charity, but by seeking profit, they are providing people with a way in which they can afford a home.By the way for the turbo midwits, I don't mean this literally. I want to see who can tell what's wrong with this reasoning and why.
>>539418092just responded, btw you won't like it
>>539416990My dad was a fisherman, took me once out on a fishing boat at 5 or 6 then decided it wasn't for me.
>>539415721I think it's less an issue of the number of leechers and moreso the amount being leeched. In which case, we really need to just kill like 15 billionaires and we'd be good.
>>539415050Here is my success story based on living at home until I was 35>Go to community college while living at home>Go to university next while still living at home>Graduate at 22 and get my first job as an engineer while living at home>From 22 to 34 contribute upwards of 34k between retirement and brokerage accounts >This is taking place during the 2010’s bull market>By 34 I have over one million in liquid assets and no debtYour results may vary but it worked for me.
>>539415050Im 42 with a wife and kid and we live with my father, but hes 77 and not capable of taking care of himself. I guess thats different. Im at the point now where I can pay someone else to take care of him now though so.
>>539415205>20 posts by this id>each one more delusional than the previous one.IS this a jeet or a shill subhuman zoggy?
>>539418257Not everyone will enter the vocation of their parents but the essential thing is that they taught you something. If you were 20 and really hard on your luck, you probably couldn’t relatively easily become a successful fisherman. That’s not true for most people believe it or not. Simply trying to teach you the trade secured you a future to some degree.
>>539416460Honestly ive been more happy and fulfilled as time goes on. I was poor at 26, now I have to be more careful about planning things but I can do more than ever before.
>>539418381this is basically what everyone does in spain but with less money of course
>>539418116No one is getting 2.6% again, the kikes arent going to allow it.
>>539418116>The apartment I used to live in in a 50k people town in the midwest was $750 a month 10 years ago. The same apartment with no updates to it is now $1400 a month last I checked.I lived in a New Jersey apartment for 15 years. When I moved in the rent was $950/month. When I moved out, after FIFTEEN YEARS, the rent was $1100/month. The new tenant, however, was expected to pay $1700 a month. When an apartment is occupied, many places have rent laws that prevent large raising in rents, same as fixed-rate mortgages. When a tenant leaves, however, the landlord can restructure the pricing to bring it up to modern equivalence.I live with my parents now and the house needs new gutters, which will cost $5000. There goes two years of your "savings." I hope you don't have enough appliances that one breaks every year, that would leave your estimates in shambles.You're an idiot if you can't see the issues with your math.Renting out of necessity is far more damaging to your finances than renting by choice, by the way.
>>539418056your house is gonna sell for 600K. That's 300K each if you have a sibling. Nobody is going to have 300K extra to just give away to the sibling.
>>539418449I loved my dad, he was a boomer perhaps but he bought assets for the soul purpose for me to inherit, but little early to give up on a 5yo.
>>539418381Same, I am sitting on over 1 million dollars after the AI bullrun. Already sold too. One more bullrun of anything and I wont need working anymore at all.
>>539418441Ineeds to feel better about himself by shiiting others down. >LOOK WHAT I ACCOMPLISHED. I AM GOOD, YOU ARE BAD. SHAAAAME.
>>539417258>prices will come down soon. Sure but not yours, right? You know what you got.
>>539418385do you also provide a room for your wife's boyfriend? maybe a game room for you guys to have a nerf gun fight?
>>539417765in my opinion, the sucess must be measured by how many kids you have and how you plan about their future. But I understand it is anything but easy so many men just prefer to let it go and be manchildren forever.
>>539418164>If people can't afford a home, don't you think those corporations are then doing people a favor by doing that? I mean, they're not a charity, but by seeking profit, they are providing people with a way in which they can afford a home.You're absolutely fucking retarded. You are literally praising them for offering services to "fix" the problem they are directly contributing to creating.
>>539418501>>539418648To me this makes sense. I could realistically never contribute a dime towards it again and still be set for retirement. I’m lucky that both of my parents thought this through for me. It also has never hampered my dating life.
>>539418564I always tell young people that the real barrier to entry for home ownership is not just the house prices but all the stuff they’ll have to buy once they buy it. It’s worse than you think because boomers genuinely neglected or destroyed these houses. You’ll buy a $400,000 turd built in the 1960s at 7% and then you’ll immediately find out the inspector lied and you need a new sewer line, structural repairs, a new roof, a new furnace, etc. just for the house to be safe and up to code.
>>539415050GIVE ME MY RENT MONEY GOY
>>539418564What? You're literally confirming his point.
>>539418700>in my opinion, the sucess must be measured by how many kids you have and how you plan about their future. But I understand it is anything but easy so many men just prefer to let it go and be manchildren forever.So you too expect me to settle for some busted whore to get the participation throphy? Why would I risk anything of what I have built?
>>539415205According to who? I know a successful petroleum engineer who lives with his parents along with his wife and 3 kids. They live in one of the houses on their family property that his parents own. His uncle is his next door neighbor. You're a fucking retard basically and you don't even understand how to measure success.
>>539418730I just need one more bullrun then I can retire for good, I am 32. Pretty good if you ask me
What zoomer is in their mid-30s?
I'm 32 and still live with my parents. But I also travel for work and am only home for like 5 to 7 days a month. I'm not paying rent or a mortgage for a house/condo I will only sleep in 7 nights on average. I also have like $180k in savings.My advice to youngfags is to go work a job that requires travel. You'll bank more than housecucks and you'll have your housing paid for by your business or employer. Also never get married. If you want kids, move to South America and use a surrogate in your late 30s or early 40s.
>>539415050it isn't per se. if you have a large house with two flats, or more, in it, then there is no issue with your parents living in one flat and you and your family living in the other. humans had been living in multi generational households for centuries. this atomic bullshit is peak americunt corporate degeneracy.
>>539418702So they are creating the problem? How? Don't you think they're taking a big risk by paying those massive home prices?
>>539418611Which is a lot better than what most have done. A lot of young people are going to be shocked to find out when their parents want to retire that they are underwater on the house, have little savings or retirement, and will want them to sustain their lifestyle. >>539418648And what exactly are you expecting a bull run for? The AI top has to be priced in already. I don’t see how this bubble does another 10x. Nothing else is growing or has good prospects besides maybe robotics and space flight but 20 years from now and only if AI actually delivers which it won’t.
>>539418790He's looking at the price of his apartment after it changed tenants, stupid. If he'd stayed in it, the price would be $850/month instead of $1400, and that completely assrapes his "savings" math.Sitting in an apartment forever in a state or city with strong rent laws is a fantastic housing decision. I would still be doing it myself if COVID and AI hadn't completely fucked my estimated career path.
>>539417258Anon, I'm still waiting on your response to this >>539417758
>>539415050>be me>renting dad's starter house he kept for whatever reason>paying way under market rates mostly to cover the costs>creating offsprings while saving to buy my own houseAm I a loser or did I find a loophole?
>>539415050everything is regressing so it doesnt matter anymore. being independent for what? a people whos ideas and physical presence will disappear within 2 generations? an environment progressing to post labor economics or serfdom where no matter what you do, you will always be in the same class? its just silly but tradcuck retards, christcucks and corporatist talking corpses will all continue to pretend its the early 90s.
>>539418912Who knows, once some money rotates we will know. I just need one more 3-5x
>>539417659>work is an evil tribulation that is meant for suffering and tearsMost of time it is
>>539417961>>539418031Just save cash and leave the country entirely. Why stay behind in a nation that doesn't care about it youth? Stay with your parents until your ready to exit to South America or Russia.Let the boomers and jews live in the real world.
>>539415205Foward with what? No one is marrying a virgin and having a ton of kids with a good mother. Who the fuck cares of you love with your parents.
>>539418846if you're married and have a family then fine. Most people living at home at 35 are going to be incels.
>>539419021only based comment in a sea of idiots
>>539418929>dad renting out his starter home to his flesh and blood and not the 30 immigrants willing to pay 3x moreSuspension of disbelief had a hard time with this one.
>>539419072exactly and what i did. it is the only move to be happy. choose paraguay too because once u move ur tax system over u dont pay a cent more to those talking corpses
>>539418903By propping up the artificially inflated housing prices via purchasing them at the outlandish costs + making available housing more scarce, you fucking moron. How fucking stupid are you?
>>539418925most people can't afford 1 million for a house so eventually they will go unsold and have to drop prices eventually. I don't know when but it will happen eventually.
>>539419028>Foward with what? No one is marrying a virgin and having a ton of kids with a good mother. Who the fuck cares of you love with your parents.This. All that would be looking forward to by me is spending money I dont want to spend on a run through whore. Why would I want to do that? I have an irl friend circle too, so I am not suffering from loneliness.
>>539419131> 3 times eventually in one sentenceESL much?
>>539419131they wont drop because the government will bail and continue to pump assets as per the Vancouver condo bailout
>>539419118My father isn't a boomer.
>>539419130Wait but isnt it a bit weird that they would want to pay those inflated prices? Do they have no leverage or what? If prices could be lower, why are they paying a fortune to businesses that build homes?Are builders making a fortune?By the way I said a few comments ago that I do not mean this literally, just want to see if you even know where this logic is wrong.
>>539419174hes got alot of his mind hans
>>539419066>Most people living at home at 35 are going to be incels.This is 100% your own twisted imagination that in your mind justifies the artificial suffering of young people.
>>539419066>people cant afford houses so they have to go down>of you dont buy a house youre probably an incelLol
>>539419220Mine is, he is seething I dont do anything to get with a woman though. 3 years he thought I was joking when I said I dont look for a woman. He isnt laughing anymore now.
>you need to, with virtually none of the means and resources of your parents, in a market that is fucking inhumane, fight your way out of poverty because its some ritual that your grandad thinks he didwhy not live in the house your family unit owns until you buy anotherwait, this is the 21st century, what family does anyone have lmfao
>>539419176they bailed them out because it was a new construction. It won't happen again since developers know it will go unsold and won't build again soon.
>>539419131>most people can't afford 1 million for a houseThat doesn't matter to the modern home economy.
>>539415050I make 120K and live with parents, all profit no debt. Stay seething rentoids.
>>539419254I had women from the circle of people I know approach me even though they know my living situation. Have a good car though.
>>539419131>Saaaar you must buy a bloody house with your 30 other siblings who are also your cousins saaaaaaaaaaAAAARYou crusty untouchable
>be called a failure>me pic related
>>539419316Prices only skyrocketed like 4 years ago. You should've already moved out by early 30's since we are discussing 35 year olds.
>>539418805One has to go to the creator with a clear conscience, so I'm not sure you would like to be in your deathbed knowing that others will take your place and you did nothing because there is a risk that you will be cheated or broke by your wife. This is greater than you.
>>539415050because you aren't paying rent to mr. scheckelberg dummy. you aren't paying mr. scheckelberg to build you a house either.
>>539415050I moved my family back in with my mom at 35. She’s in her 70s now and she invited us to come live with her because she was lonely now we live in a million + dollar home in the Midwest living the life. I just pay her property taxes and utilities. I make 6 figures so I’m living extremely comfortable. It’s a great deal and I always have a baby sitter. Highly recommend.
>>539419374if it gets too bad then governments will have to step in if people literally can't afford to live on their own.
>>539419472>One has to go to the creator with a clear conscience, so I'm not sure you would like to be in your deathbed knowing that others will take your place and you did nothing because there is a risk that you will be cheated or broke by your wife. This is greater than you.Dont even understand what you mean?
>>539418690Are you telling me people in your shit hole don't take care of your parents?
>>5394194524 years ago? Is that when your shit stained hands finally made their way from india to Canada? Youve no idea what youre talking about, prices have been fucked for literal decades its just compounded now with inflation, stagnant wages and jeets like you fucking up functional systems
>>539419370no it will happen again because those developers now know that their losses will be socialized and not a peep will come from those useless eaters called the canadian people
>>539419130The housing prices are artificially inflated. They are based on a currency that is inflating faster and faster. You need to be converting paychecks checks to gold or other inflation resistant assets (NOT real estate because who wants to live in a inflated shithole) that can cross borders easily. >>539419122EU fags just need to escape their borders to not owe tax money. US fags need to get second citizenships. I recommend Panama or Uruguay.
i am 37 and living with my parents because there is 0 affordable living space in my country / state / city. i live a frugal and minimalist lifestyle but even if i would get lucky and i find a place rent is so expensive here it would cost me 60-70% of my incomei am not a mommas boy i am one of the most self sufficient people you will ever meet, completely debt free with savings, worked and lived around the globe, finished university (meme degree i admit) but have useful industry certifications its just a shit situation and has been for 20 years we never recovered from the 2008 crisis and corona was the final death blow
>>539415050an entire generation that lives with parents at 60 yet has put in 40 years at a full time job and can't even afford a little old shack to be alone ever.what nightmares we live. the levels of total submissive slavery to jewish rulers is baffling.>this is fine we didn't need wives, children, homes, or anything. we have food delivery and porn and game subsscriptions. this is all fine.>i bet living as a human being instead of slave cattle tastes really sour or is a lot of work and stress or something.
>>539419579yes thats true, u guys are taxed wherever but as a leaf, im going through the process of not paying those fuckers
>>539415050why is this jew tranny constantly reposted here?
>>539416990Realest post in the thread. My dad was a master mechanic, electrician and carpenter but chose to get his back broken in the navy doing shit completely non-transferable to civilian life (operated one of those fuckass cannons on a destroyer for some reason), then sit on his ass watching nascar and smoking 3 packs a day until my brother and I were grown and hadn't had a lick of wisdom or technical proficiency passed on to us(not to mention the daughter he just abandoned from a previous marriage). Our parents idea of raising us was buying us video games and sitting us in front of the TV/computer all day, then wondering why we grew up utterly aimless and ambitionless. He also spent the monthly checks the VA sent for my brother and I until we were grown, which were the closest thing we would have had to an inheritance, on fucking car insurance. I have a family of my own now and haven't spoken to him or my abusive alcoholic mother in years but that one still raises my blood pressure when I think about it. They were early GenX too, but I guess the boomer curse carried over to them. They seem to be the last generation that actually had a chance to do anything but be rent slaves until the end of time, and it evidently went to some of their heads just like the boomers.
>>539419567maybe in your country. US/Canada they were fine. Prices were always increasing but that was expected. Covid is what made them unaffordable
>>539417496Rare based Poo
>>539415050People should live with their parents to save money so they can buy property. Nobody should be leasing or paying a landlord. Total landlord death. Buy homes.
>>539418700That's just not true. Look at the black american community. They both have a bunch of children + don't plan for the future. And they're revered for it.
The whole "kick your kid out at 18" thing was always a jewish scam to get more people paying rent to jewish landlords.
>>539417765it's jews, they are noticing their "public focused" investments aren't performing as much so these faggots pay for articles like these and "young generations aren't eating enough avocado toast"
>>539419678What does Paraguay residency to citizenship pathway look like btw? I'm assuming its not CBI since the Carribean is cheaper.
>>539417180Wealthy families inherit estates and work at stand ins managing the wealth of propertiesThere was never a rite of passage where they built wealth without inheritance. Boomers often do the opposite of paying for their sons to learn a career. Selling out to foreigners, touching the kids in place of effort, or any of the liberal fraud that is a veiled caste system of flexing who can survive more degeneracy before their surrounding resources collapse
>>539419131no i think theyre just going to inflate the currency forever
>>539415050Because it all but guarantees you will die alone, and usually is a golden cage trapping you where jobs with actual career tracks aren't
>>539415050>"IQ 187">spews small-minded and frequently idiotic opinionsWhy is this such a common phenomenon nowadays?
>>539419240>Wait but isnt it a bit weird that they would want to pay those inflated prices? Do they have no leverage or what?The fact that they have huge amounts of money saved up as a megacorp that rents out shit IS their leverage, you retard. You don't even know what you're arguing about anymore.>If prices could be lower, why are they paying a fortune to businesses that build homes?What the fuck are you talking about? They're not buying new homes, they're buying existing homes and renting them.
>>539417348It is transferred to the single mother’s children your dad will blow your inheritance on America does not have laws mandating inheritance and incentivizes r-selection of running out on your marriage
>>5394198682 years temporary residency> permanent residency> after 3 years apply for citizenship , pass spanish testORObtain direct permanent residence through an eligible investor program. > 3 years to citizenshipalso once you get this, its wayyy easier to apply to other south american countries and even spanish citizenship. im about to get my permanent residency from the temporary path
>>539419370"The prices will go down because builders will build fewer projects in the future."I see.
>>539415050I’m 32 and live with mineNot sure if I count as an example of this being a bad thing though, since we all run a business that takes up like 80 hours a weekMy dad does his job still though, since that pays well too
>>539419452>You should've already moved out by early 30'sAgain according to who? If your family isn't consolidating resources to project itself into the future because it fell for jewish kick-out-your-kids memes then it's too stupid to measure what success even means.You know who *doesn't* kick their kids out? You know who *doesn't* call their kids losers for living at home in their 30s? Rich people. They just tell YOU that bullshit because they understand where rich people actually come from. They understand that they got rich by previous generations of their family consolidation resources and using them to give their kids power to project their lineage into the future. They tell YOU not to do that because they want you to stay poor so they don't have to compete with other rich people.
>>539419753Once again how can you agree their unaffordable and then say you should have one. We never recovered from 2008, youre either to young or to foreign to know that
>>539419994Most jobs are dead end and abusive
>>539419839>>539419998> The high IQ move is to marry a whore and never achieve financial independence
>>539420153theres alot of balding corpses here who play make believe that its the 90s
>>539419506>the government that allowed and now benefits from this will have to step in and become the government that disallows it.Great plan.
>>539419749It’s unfortunate. The silver lining is while we have to go at it alone we can always choose at any age to do for ourselves what they should’ve done for us as teens. It’s really never too late to enter most careers and learn to do them well.
>>539420136it's a reflection of the real estate market. If new condos couldn't be sold, then it means people aren't buying and lower prices should follow suit everywhere.
>>539419452Anon, our own government has outright said that it is unlikely anyone under 35 will ever own property in this country.
>>539420232Always funny to watch someone desperately try to defend their own idiotic position by putting words in my mouth.
>>539420153>Again according to who?according to social norms that existed for hundreds of years.
>>539420377I meant the 187iq guy
>>539415050Judeo-boomer societal expectations. Even the cheapest flats/houses in my area are way above £1000/month. So what? Get a job and spend half your time in the wagecage paying for some boomer's mortgage? No thanks. My family has a big house and I just chill on spergbux.
>>539420256Even back in the 90s when I was a kid my dad knew better than to fall for the kick out your kids meme. I don't how I got so lucky to wind up with one of the only intelligent boomers on earth for a dad who knew better than to believe jewish bullshit, but I feel real, deep sorrow for kids who ended up with stupid parents.
>>539418876It'd be better if you had that baby earlier. You'll probably have enough (but less) energy for the kid, but you'll be rather old, or just dead, for the grandkids.
>>539420261you can't have policies that affect most of the population negatively. They get too pissed off then vote you out or revolt.
>>539420316u cant convince the retards, id rather they stay as close as possible the a MAID clinic
>>539419999Why would anybody rent from them and not just leave the country after saving up enough money? What is so great about Canada or any western country if you are not wealthy?
>>539420437I am skipping the having children part entirely.
>>539420316they acknolwedge the problem but it's not easy to fix.
>>539420454You're comically naive if you actually believe that. 30 years of conditioning have ensured that any and all first world revolts and uprisings will be against one's neighbors, and never one's rulers.
>>539420296You fucking idiot, it doesn't matter if they're sold or not, as long as they stay at the same overvalued price so that they can borrow from the bank at that value. You literally don't understand a single thing about real estate or the banking system. It is literally more profitable for a real estate corporation to hold onto a block of condos that are 1/3rd full but valued at $1m each than it would to have a fully rented out condo block but the price is lowered.
>>539418547My interest is 4.6 and my mortgage is 1100ish as well, im a 3bed instead of 4 like other anon though, 240k instead of 300, 3 acres, annual property tax is like 3000, it’s nothing compared to rentYou’re paying the owners yearly property tax in one or two months rent
>>539415050>COVID DEI bonanza>COVID>DEIDo these idiots just throw whatever buzzwords they want together and think it'll make sense?>The Woke 2008 financial crisis>Communist Bank Bailouts>Fascist Occupy Wallstreet movement>The Affirmative Action Global War on Terror
>>539420410>social norms that existed for hundreds of years.You being dumb enough to believe that isn't anyone's problem but yours.
>>539420417Lel, my bad. Friendly fire on /pol/ is just unavoidable given the level of satire and shitposting.
>>539420437I mean, yes it would, but the tradeoff is that you get to be a financially stable single dad. The goal is to not have to work a full time job while the kid is under 12. I plan on dropping dead around 75 anyways to give my son more money to work with. I have zero intention of being a boomer.
>>539420681Np friend
>>539420436its rare because if ur old i automatically assume ur a retard
>>539415050Because it's too easy of a reason for women to reject you and they want something more esoteric so you can't change it.
>>539420599first world countries have done a pretty good job of keeping the country comfortable. It's unprecedented that people can't afford housing. Maybe they won't revolt literally but stuff will happen to enact changes like socialist parties winning elections
>>539420690If you want to have children that is a good idea. I decided against it but if it was something I would be interested I would do the same
>>539420625they can't hold them forever and they have their own interest payments to make if it's a new development.
>>539420659These events had a profound retarding effect on everyone's lives, expecting everyone to memory hole that the government can mandate that you are injected with poison or you can't work with your diverse mostly women populated diverse job moving numbers on a spreadsheet and answer the phone to morons is a wake up call of wtf are we doing to ourselves to pay the bills.
>>539420454All you have to do is say "ELBOWS UP! NO 51ST STATE! IF YOU DISAGREE YOU'RE A RACIST!" and we fall in line. The fact that you don't realize this really shows how much of a recent transplant you are to this country.>>539420478You can't save up enough money to leave Canada, all our pay is 1/3rd of what you make in the states for the same job and it's pretty much impossible to immigrate anywhere else if you're white.Which you already knew.
>>539420748>Because it's too easy of a reason for women to reject you and they want something more esoteric so you can't change it.> womenWho seriously gives a crap about that, the woman I would want would need to be created lmfao. I am done with that topic for good.
>>539415833I can afford my apartment just fine.After rent and bills are paid I still got 1/3 of my salary.
>>539420232sounds like a good advice, thanks for your input.. I'll get right on it
>>539420724It's a safe assumption, I haven't met a single intelligent boomer in my 38 years on this earth besides my dad.
>>539420810>ignores post about vulture funds buying up residental plotsRich cunts can and will hold onto them leaving them vacant for years waiting for a tard to spend 3x the actual value on it
>>539420810Yes. They can."Too big to fail" will happen and they'll get a government bailout. Like they literally just did in BC.
>>539419999>What the fuck are you talking about? They're not buying new homes, they're buying existing homes and renting them.Then why are the new homes also expensive? Didnt you just say they are creating the problem?>The fact that they have huge amounts of money saved up as a megacorp that rents out shit IS their leverage, you retard. You don't even know what you're arguing about anymore.That's like saying that they charge people low rent for leverage. They clearly don't. So why would they pay more than they have to for all the homes they buy?I am making perfect sense. Why would they pay so much? Do they have no leverage and have to give away fortunes? Because you just said they're causing the problem, meaning homes would be affordable without them. So they like paying more or what?
>>539420500So dont complain if germanic whites are becoming extinct you fucking loser.
>>539420973ok but they have to do something with those condos anyways. So people do end up living there.
>>539415721People's parents are "the system" you fucking retard. Things would literally be more sustainable if people lived in multigenerational housing you stupid fucking nigger.
>>539421028I am not. I dont want to marry some used up woman to prop up some failing society. You're free to do what you want, its not the life I want for myself though
>>539415205We’re not fighting your wars cunt.Zoomers have checked out.
>>539420969true but if too many houses get owned by corpos then people will get mad and enact changes.
>>539420842>impossible to make enough moneyNot even in AB oilfields? Just live in a mancamp, get your training and experience, then go work in the mideast or Russian oil or Argentina shale oil sectors.Do you guys have tax exemptions for working on oceanic ships like Italy or some other Euro nations have?
>>539420454This was the correct interpretation of history before: Printing pressRadioTelevisionInternetAlgorithmsAI.Conditioning is now complete, there will never be another successful revolt again.
>>539416990This post hit me hard dude.
>>539421007>Then why are the new homes also expensive? Didnt you just say they are creating the problem?Among many other reasons, because the existing market is inflated and they can't sell a new construction for less than the existing overvalued homes.>>539421122>ok but they have to do something with those condos anyways.Yes. That "something" is borrowing against the inflated asset prices, you idiot. I just fucking said that.
>>539420500This is a bad idea anon. They have genetic screening now for many conditions if that's the problem.>>539420690Generational capital is better than financial capital. You should plan to live with them at 75 instead. Your money can combine with your sweat equity (babysitting or whatever.) An man only needs a room and some food, an old man even less. Begin planning for the legacy of your descendancy.
>>539415050mid-30 zoomers? I thought i was a millenial
>>539421291>I just fucking said that.no bank is going to lend money against empty real-estate.
>>539421298It isnt something I desire, simple as. In my opinion most families are disgusting with men marrying used up whores these days. Dont want to do that. And I dont want to spend serious money to then raise a child alone either. It is simply not for me, not interested.
>>539420751watch out guys. he's got a ballot and he's not afraid to use it
>>539421181Good lord you're fucking naive.>>539421207That represents a very small amount of jobs and it shrinks even more per year.
>>539421366>no bank is going to lend money against empty real-estate.Alright I'm out. I hope for your sake that you're just trolling and you're not actually this retarded.
>>539421430New York elected a socialist mayor. That was unheard of decades ago. Nazis were elected because things got bad enough in Germany too.
>>539421291>Among many other reasons, because the existing market is inflated and they can't sell a new construction for less than the existing overvalued homes.Ok why is it inflated then?The investment firms buying up most homes? You just said they're not building new homes. Kek
>>539421548>New York elected a socialist mayor.lmfao you're a like baby
>>539421540real estate developers already borrow money for the construction. If it goes unsold, they aren't going to get more for it. That's what I meant.
>>539415205You can't move past a wall.
>>539421624you use your brain to figure out how to climb over it
>>539421473>a small amount of jobsSure, but those jobs are tailor made for saving. What about working in the Arctic territories? The goal is to have a company pay for your housing, since housing is the biggest expense.Have you tried applying for these positions? How old are you?
>>539421597>Ok why is it inflated then?Decades of policy that benefited home owning boomers at the detriment of everyone else, decades of policies that hamper the construction of new buildings, massively inflated amounts of immigration where a full 25% of Canadian's population is now immigrants, and a country where 98% of the population lives within 100 miles of the US border because most of it is an uninhabitable tundra.Retard.
>>539421764For most guys its a bad idea to do these jobs. If you are a traditional guy who wants to have a family dont even consider doing these jobs. You will end up making some money but it will not yield you an attractive dating pool of women. You dont want to be the guy funding an aging whore, believe me. It is better to be the younger guy with good social contacts than the older guy with money surrounded by aging whores. I have made the experience and decided not to have children as a result. Initially it wasnt like that but now it is. Choose wisely, there are no refunds on this. What keeps me going is that I have a lot of male friends though
>>539421623You LITERALLY don't understand how borrowing against the value of an asset works. Jesus fucking Christ. I can't believe I replied to you for so long.>>539421764I'm 35 with a fiancee. You can't just fuck off to the oil fields unless you're like 21 and have no friends, family, or relationships.
>>539418914Bullshit. I stayed in my apt. which was 590 and it went up over 1000, but I moved out. In Nevada.
>>539421181Lol lmao even
>>539422022>You will end up making some money but it will not yield you an attractive dating pool of women.You shouldn't be looking for women anyways, as they are all trash. The process is to make money and then expat out to Sputh America, buy a surrogate, and then raise the kid as a single dad. Men need to think outside the box.Women are all terrible, some are worse than others. The good news is that we'll be rid of them in about 100 years.
>>539415205Hard to move forward in a dumpster fire joke country that mass imports people to work at walmart while subsidizing their wages. Problem is that people cannot attain a modest lifestyle in this country without some sort of fuckery.
>>539422160i know right, leafs are beyond retarded
>>539422086>I'm 35 with a fiancee.Oh shit. Well yeah you're fucked then unless you can convince her to expat with you. How much in savings do you both have?
>>539422228If you want to be a dad sure, do it. For me its not something I look forward to. But if you want to be a father you should totally do it. There is discussion about surrogacy in my country and while I wouldnt use it myself I am highly supportive of it in an intellectual sense.
>>539415050idk. society never did anything for me so idc what they think. my mom helped me through alot so i wanna take care of her in her older years and make sure she lives comfortably>but you'll give girls the ickidc.
>>539422228male separatism is inevitablehttps://incels.is/threads/male-separatism-and-post-female-society.876268/
>>539415050>Why is it so bad to live with parents at 35?If you ever had children this question would answer itself.
>>539415205if you are employed and handle all of your bills, you have met your minimum obligation to society. anything else is just jews hyperventilating
>>539416990my dad gets mad at me for not knowing things but won't teach me
>>539421936Looks like you actually know the truth. This was my original point, idiot. The high prices are not going to go down because they're imposed by policy to benefit boomers. Since they're imposed by the government, they're no more likely to go down than taxes are.
>>539422350I have about $20k, she has nothing in terms of immediate use but she has a HUGE inheritance of like $100k but who the fuck knows when that'll come along.
>>539417678Good post anon, you really nailed the mindset that you need to have to survive. I hope you make it.
>>539422811he just hates you
>>539422555Reminds me of a conversation I recently had at a wedding with a woman> so when are you getting married anonI am not.> but you must have some love interestNo.> so you are one of these men looking for younger womenNo.> Ah are you gay thenNo.> Urgh, are you sureYes> What's the deal then with you?I dont know, I am just comfortable where I am at> Noooooooooooo you have to do something why do you even get up in the morningThe irony is she is left-wing
>>539422890those same "people" also assume work just happens to happen
>>539415050>zoomers in their mid 30sThey're not that old yet.
>>539415050Because it means you haven't executed the shabbos boomers who were complicit in making the world what it is for the jews?
>>539422135You didn't state the duration of your stay, but that doesn't matter. I specifically said there are places with good rent laws.If you live in a place with bad rent laws, stop living there, idiot. You're renting. You're not tied to the place.
>>539422160>>539422304He's not even a leaf, he's totally either just a troll or someone who came to this country within like the last 5 years or less.
see this graph? this is why home prices are never coming down
>>539422983She literally assumes men exist simply to serve women. Notice also how she is even willing to accept a man going for younger women over a man who doesnt do anything at all.
>>539423024"Just move around as a rootless worker who has no connection to the land he lives in and no ties to family and friends who treats the country as an economic zone."
>>539423122How fucking retarded must you be to have read what I wrote that way?I already said that I stayed in my first apartment for 15 years, and that I would still be there if not for the extenuating circumstances of our time. Clearly I have demonstrated an appreciation for being rooted.
>>539422890that hole doesnt understand that all your reasons to do any of that bullshit has been taken from u and she of course has every reason to do it because she gets every bennefit. in the future i hope its socially accetable to knock out all their teeth at the moment they say something stupid in the transition period into a post female society
>>539423215"I can't do the thing I'm advocating you to do for the exact same reasons you wouldn't be able to do it, but like, you should do it anyway or you're a cuck loser".Okay buddy
>no virgin white wifewhy exactly should i be working? to send 40 percent of my paycheck to niggers and jews and spics and spend the rest on overpriced mortgage, shitty plastic cars full of surveillance, and shitty round up sprayed organic food? pass
>>539423072>see this graph? this is why home prices are never coming down
>>539415500No one will take care of you.
>>539423286Based>>539423314The plastic car thing has made me stop wanting cars altogether. I have an oldtimer
>>539423320oh yeah they will long after we're dead I'm sure, but the assumption is always that the bubble will pop is right around the corner
>>539423320Noted: Sell my house before 2085.Thanks for the tip anon. Too bad they didn't put dates on the right side of the graph.
>>539423287>move one time, to a place with good rent laws>now you can stay there for a reasonably long amount of timeYou and I started in this thread on the same side. Please actually read what I'm saying and stop making us both look worse. You're making me think we both might be wrong after all.
>>539422555Based post. .is is looking more intelligent than /pol/ nowadays.>>539422862Idk what I'd do in your shoes brother. Maybe team drive a truck, but that skill isn't transferable nor in demand.>>539422890Should've told her you were waiting for the artificial wombs and sexbots.>>539421298I get what you are saying about sweat equity, but the moment my health starts failing, I will pull it. My aunt had dementia. Taking care of her was the worst experience I ever had.
>>539423474anon your home will be ready to be torn down by 2085, homes don't last forever especially when everyone treats them so rough and they're built so poorly
>>539423474>Thanks for the tip anon. Too bad they didn't put dates on the right side of the graph.Already seeing deflation in a local market here. Nobody can afford the house, even if the house was free, the taxes, insurance, utilities and upkeep are crushing most.A lot of the demand was jews bulk buying homes and renting them to the plebs, but the plebs now cant even afford the house either way, rented or on a note.Not saying housing is perma popped, but a correction is coming, and after the world pop hits max 10 billion, the lack of growth thereafter will require people get used deflation.
>>539423430i will never buy a car with a screen in it. 2007 at the latest for most models. there are probably a few later ones, up to 2013 maybe, depending on the make and model. ideally i'm thinking 90's to 2001 or 03
>>539423490Do you not understand that it's not anyone's decision? Every year, the landlord can just decide not to renew your lease, and there's fuck-all you can do about it.
>>539423595it is more intelligent than /pol/. the average /pol/ user is a fucking retarded corpse pretending its the early 2000s thinking red pilling normies about the jews is still a viable strategy towards a brighter tommorow and larping this return to a trad fantasy while the genetic detreminists over at .is know the problem and the solution, its male separatism
>>539422160Close to 3 years.
>>539423762Do YOU not understand that this is not the case everywhere? Maybe it is in leafland but as I said, in America there are states where rent legally cannot go up faster than inflation. In my own New Jersey example, the rent could not LEGALLY go up more than 4% a year, and my landlord didn't raise it for the first 5 years I was there. If I had any objection to these terms, I would have found a better apartment elsewhere. That is the advantage of renting - you are not TIED to a place, you are where you choose to be.
>>539423684We are in the middle of a birth rate crisis. All nations have rapidly declining birth rates. Do with that info what you will.
>>539415050think of moshe's house price, if you live with your parents, demand goes down by a bit
>>539416337Just take out a high interest 30 year mortgage, says the boneheaded boomer.
>>539422228Sorry, but it's human beings that are terrible not just women. One is a weasel, the other a narcissist. The 3rd one likes to lie. The 4th one is stupid and doesn't understand concepts. The 5th one loves money and shamelessly steps on peoples faces to get more of it.
>>539423595Yeah, my grandma had dementia. It was horrible. But the rates have been going down, and it is mostly in your 80s+. Some cures might come out too. So you have a chance. But if not, once you get that diagnosis go on an african safari and walk into the wilderness wearing a dress made of raw meat.>>539423652Also I'll be a hundred years old. So I wasn't completely serious.>>539423684Don't worry more immigrants are coming to fix those housing numbers!
The shit&piss 500 wildly outperforms rent, you are better off parking your 401k in slow and "chill" stocks, pound for pound property taxes and interest end up being nearly as expensive as rent so you are throwing money into the trash either way
>>539423765Yeah, I think that's largely true. The overall trends are mving in the direction of tech replacing women. Robotics just needs to hurry up.
>>539423867Increasing the rent or not has nothing to do with what I just said, which is that the landlord can just decide to decline your lease renewal at any time. To my knowledge, there is not a single state that would prevent a landlord from declining to renew your lease.
>>539424037>Don't worry more immigrants are coming to fix those housing numbers!White people's immune systems are going off. Hopefully they get to summon Hitler levels before the damage by the jews is irreversible.
>>539415050I had been married for 5 years (still married, had a child (now 3 total), bought a house (yes it's paid, yes property taxes are gay nigger, I know), and had a career by 29 (yes I make more than you, and yes my wife stays at home and I come home to a clean house and good food). NEETing is just depression cope. How the fuck are we going to overthrow the government with you niggers sitting on your asses doing fuck all, not even physically training or weapons training?
>>539424121I can't imagine anything more pathetic than to come in at an autosaging thread to larp about being a wealthy chad
>>539424121>How the fuck are we going to overthrow the governmenti know, we all get jobs and houses and start families with a roastie and have kids so we have every excuse, just like you, to do nothing because we have too much to loseif you are going to LARP and bait at least be white enough to stand up to some basic logical reasoning
Let me tell you a funny one. When rent prices skyrocketed, boomers who are in a house also raised their prices a huge amount to match it, proving they are evil greedy assholes.
>>539424035I don't know about this. It seems the world was a lot better when women were kept under control. Regardless, cat is out of the bag now. All I know is that the best times of my life were in the field working with my bros getting shit done.>>53942403>go on a safariGravity is cheaper.>>539424121You won't put your family at risk. Ever. Only incels can be shooters. And physical fitness is not neccesary to drive a VBIED if we wanna go down the fedpost route.
>>539424109No one in the discussion I'm having is talking about evictions and/or terminations of lease. Why are you bringing these things up when the two people I've been talking numbers with both left their places willingly?You're not wrong that leases can be ended but I genuinely don't se how that is relevant at all to the discussion, especially since eminent domain also exists.
>>539424121>i signed a government contract with a matriarchal entity, how are we going to fight it brothers, fellow political disidentsyou just cant make this shit up
>>539424374Meant for>>539424037
rather than asking this question, you should ask why shit is so unaffordable, jobs pay so little and so many relationships fail or end in divorce that 35yos have to move back in with their parents.
>>539423343I take care of myself, retard.
>>539421710Climbing over it means shooting people like you and taking your stuff.
>>539424033Take out a mortgage even if you have no wife or kids to fill your house withAlso it's a 40 year mortgage now
>>539418460I was poor at 26 and then super retarded and paying the price. Could have had 10 bitcoin and laughed at the leaf from a beach in thailand. Oh well.
>>539424375Because that's the loophole to get around not being able to raise someone's rent. If you're limited to only a 2% rent raise per year, you just refuse to renew the lease (or "renovict" them) and then raise the lease to whatever you want. I've had it happen multiple times, so have most people i know.
>>539419254He should have said volcel. There's no reason to date if you're in your 30s and the women approaching you heard you had six figures in the bank and they're broke as fuck.
>>539424117I remain unconvinced. (Of the immune response. Obviously) Also, if everyone lives alone that's twice as may houses needed than if they couple up.>>539424374Shotgun is more certain. But some people think suicide is a sin.
>>539424671Theyre considering 100 year morgages in bongland
between births, deaths, new homes built, and immigration - USA is at a net negative of 1 to 1.5 million homes each year
>>539424822That sounds like you, and most of the fellow leafs you know, live in a place with shit rent laws.My condolences, but blame this on the misfortune of your being born Canadian.
>>539424995I am shocked to find out that the US does not have similar laws about this stuff desu.
>>539415050I moved out when I was 22 in 1988 and that was humiliatingly too old. You fat asses need to show more initiative and have some ambition.
>>539425343In the US it is actually insanely fucking hard to evict a renter at all, let alone simply because you want to change the price o the apartment. It's one of the good consumer protections we have, so of course it gets abused by people who shit on the floor and demand payment for their service.
Someone post new thread pls
