>glass bottles>no estrogens, not any toxicity>literally just melted sand >doesn't break in hand while drinkingwhy is big plastic pushing for inferior bottles?
Just take tongkat
Glass is more expensive, and kids drop everything.
>>539415979Forgot >Infinitely recyclable
>>539415979They want you poisoned
>>539415979Glass bottles actually give you more microplastic exposure. The soft plastic they used to make the seal on the bottle cap leashes into the fluid. A standard plastic bottle is actually cleaner.
>>539415979Plastic is cheaper to produce since its already of "waste product" or oil refining. plastic is lighter, and is more flexible and malliable. Has a lower melting point so is great for industrial injection molding. Glass you need a high percentace quatz in sand. Its brittle , more dense higher melting point.
>>539415979Just visit SEA, they still use glass bottles for their cola and they have none of this plastic bottle cap nonsense.
>>539416075>>539416891>>539416739Shalom!
>>539415979>>539416631Costs significantly more for the corporations vs. disposable PET bottles.>much higher production cost>higher weight for transportation>more fragile for transportation>recycling requires either transportation of the whole bottle which adds logistics cost>or breaking down and re-moulding which is significantly more energy intensive than PET bottle manufacturing.All that said I prefer glass bottles and would love to go back to a world/culture where they were commonly used. But everything is about profit so we won't return to that world until fossil fuels/plastics cost more to engineer than all the bullet points above cost.
>>539415979I get a glass bottle of coke every chance I get, it's just a better drinking experience overall.
Is there anything wrong with aluminium cans? I personally prefer how coke tastes from them over bottles
>>539417057sucks to be american, our stores have glass bottles for all kinds of drinks
>>539417029It's a beverage for kids. They convinced you it's water.
>>539417029Look at the seal on the lid of a standard plastic water bottle, or soda bottle. It's made of hard plastic. Glass bottles use a very soft plastic on the underside of their lid. It gives you way more microplastic exposure. Totally negates using the glass for the bottle.
>>539417029Niggers would smash them everywhere
>>539415979Shipping cost for glass is more expensive.
Not true anymore. All new glass actually has more micro plastics than plastic bottles themselves. Sorry man but it's true. There is no escape.
>>539416075They make practically unbreakable glass but it's not cost effective as a disposable container.>>539416631The government only mandates spyware and slop into everything. They would never push standardizing beverage and chemical containers so they could be reused.
>>539417029These are facts not opinions. its also why aluminum has largely replaced steel. and we use titanium alloys for all the "high end" stuffim sorry you cant into industrial processes bro. i heard you can take classes on glassblowing in my area though
Glass is heavier and requires more fuel for delivery. That's it.
>>539415979Heavy
>>539417057Before glass we were using gords leather pouches and clay potsWe should go back to that
>>539417240That sounds like a ludicrous shill talking point.Source?
>>539417120Its more like a plastic bottle with an aluminum covering.
>>539415979more expensive and heavier, so it eats profit in transport>not any toxicityyou think they don't see this as a plus?
>>539415979Lower shipping costs, duh. Plastic is a lot lighter than glass.
>>539416981They probably have to return bottles before they can get more, or pay a big deposit.Back when glass bottles were used here, a deposit in the 1970s was ten cents which today would be at least a dollar.
>>539417218Stop blaming blacks for everything
>>539417218Probably.
>>539417343I agree, actually.
>>539415979Because poisoning the population is intentional.
>>539415979I’m still finding bottles from the 30s shoreline lake fishing. Be nice to go barefoot ankle deep on a hot day. Even so bring glass back. It’s the superior beverage container.
>>539415979Big plastic is run by the femboy lobby, most of you just don't want to admit it.
>>539417261>it's not cost effective as a disposable container.Glass bottles weren't originally designed as "disposable containers". You were supposed to return your empty coke bottle to a coke machine (there would usually be boxes or racks of them nearby). The guy who restocks the machine would take them back, where they would be cleaned and re-used.You can't count on people to give that much of a fuck anymore. Over time, people stopped returning the glass bottles (and also didn't properly dispose of them, which resulted in a lot of broken glass at parks and beaches), which made them less cost-effective, especially with the rising prominence of plastic. It's a problem with people becoming less considerate over time as much as it is a corporate issue.
>>539415979>whyCheaper, and also can't be used a weapon.
>>539417582then why won't niggers stop fucking everything up?look at zimbabwe and SA (or chicago, baltimore and detroit)>when whites ruled: safety for your life, electricity and work>when niggers took over: in less than a decade, niggers lost two decades of life expectancy, murder and rape are rampant, electricity became a luxury and lots of other bad things happeningniggers fuck everything up, so it's just to blame niggers when they exist near a problem. chances are very high for them to be the reaon that stuff is fucked up
>>539417733CheckedThat's the simplest explanation.
>>539415979You can but explosives in them and turn them into glass frag grenandes. This is the real reason.
>>539418003I remember milk still being delivered in glass bottles in my area in the '80s.They would simply collect the used bottles on the next trip.A nationwide bottle deposit of 50 cents to a dollar could be instituted and you would have bums cleaning up the trash for drug money. It worked for plastic bottles in Michigan at only 15 cents per bottle.>Inb4 more Big GovernmentThey already do this for electronics and appliances and don't even offer conveniently located recycling drop off locations, so people just chop televisions up and dumping them in the garbage.Bottle deposit programs have actually worked.
>>539417545In most of europe you have to pay a deposit on PET bottles and you need to go to a cuck machine to return them and get your deposit back. The Hanses called them pfund machines.
>>539415979because it's heavier and it's inferior to plastic.
>>539415979All sodas have a plastic interior lining, including glass bottles. If you drink drinks from any store bought container then you're drinking microplastics.
>>539419194The contamination is strictly from the caps in glass bottles and results from use of soluble plastics in the gaskets.Good to know this, but it's something that could be easily remedied.
>>539416075white kids can handle glass bottles just fine
>>539419556The glass bottles spend the majority of their time stored upright. Yes there might be some sloshing around but the contamination is minimal when compared to PET bottles.
>>539419888Actual studies prove you wrong.
>>539418825>The Hansesis that slang for germans?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hanseatic_League
>heavier packaging>more expensive to make>costs more to ship, fit less in a case>less durable, higher breakage / more shrink
>>539415979You stupid fuck. Ship a truckload of coke in glass versus aluminum and tell me which costs less in fuel and space maximization. God damn I hate the children that post here.
>>539416739Have you ever even opened a glass beer or coke bottle in your life?
>>539420897>I must poison the world because of muh heckin FUEL COSTS!!!This is why I support a fascist government forcing the sale of glass and killing all jews and indians
>>539417261you're a brainlet posting faceberg infographics instead of meta-analyses. you know nothing. drink from your glass bottles, but don't bother others.
>>539416075>kidsYou say that like grown adults won't selfishly smash their empty beer bottles on the sidewalk. Littering is a cross-generational issue.
>>539417120aluminium cans have an internal coating of PTFE, which is no good for people who have panic attacks about liquid coming into contact with plastic
>>539420845Point of the thread is it would be worth a marginal extra cost to avoid the contaminants.>>539420897Amazing there are so many anons ITT getting emotional about the benefits of plastic. Probably from all the petro-estrogens.
>>539420589shalom>>539420774yes, Hans or do you prefer to be called Hugo?
>>539417057just buy mexican coke / mexican sodas. They are all glass bottle and use cane sugar. Available in any part of america with latinx pop which is basically everywhere now
>>539420976BasedNatSoc saints choose glass for their health and the health of their people.
>>539415979>why is big plastic pushing for inferior bottles?Not anymore now china has to pay normal price for oil.So shills will be out to change the market so the ccp can try to keep it controlled by them lol
>>539421353i thought you meant the hanseatic leaguethat would be a new one>hugowould be fine with me
>>539420908Okay Grug, what grand mysteries did you solve by looking at your bottle cap? Did you notice the soft plastic liner? Do you think maybe that has something to do with the discussion?
>>539421168rewarding recycling pretty much solves the litter problem. see: any festival where a bag of litter is exchanged for free beer.
>>539421577Never seen it once on my mexican coke. But even still, it's less plastic, you can't convince me it's the same as the whole bottle or a can liner and tell me well we might as well switch to full plastic just because of one tiny gasket
Studies have proven that glass bottles contain more microplastics than typical plastic bottles due to the legally mandated plastic lining on the inside of the cap
>>539422008>believing academic (((studies))) in the current yearIt's just an extended justification for muh fuel costs.
>>539415979Bump
>>539422008>>539417240>>539420897Weight of the glass container is marginal compared to the liquid at 2.5 g/cc>>539421147I don't need a meta-analysis. You troons boil plastic to grow tits
>>539422008>>539417240Bots
>>539422008Another bot
>>539422919bot
>>539421918Soft plastics are much worse for microplastic exposure. The worst being shit like Saran wrap and Ziploc bags. That soft inner seal on the bottle cap is worse than the hard plastic of a full PET bottle.
>>539417120Aluminum cans are sprayed on the inside with a plastic coating, lmao
The only value glass bottles have is preserving the flavor of beer better otherwise its just more plastic for no reason
>>539415979plastic bottles are made of dinosaurs, that's cool as fuck, but for some coincidence the same people who call to ban them (because they own glass companies) are the same who say they are full of cancer, Alzheimer, right-wing thoughts,racism and strogens, imagine if it was so easy to get fresh strogen just from a random bottle, the whole strogen industry will collapse in one day. oh! also fogot to mention global warming, bottles also produce global warming because that's how it works
>>539423358glass looks nice
>>539423010Here's the meta-analysis you demanded, shillhttps://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0890623825001194
>>539415979 Niggers, spic and pajeets would be shattering bottles everywhere
>>539423443i'm aware. what's the association with drinking from plastic?
>>539415979If you actually carried your bottles around you'd know how heavy glass is.Drink water and not fat fuck juice
>>539416075This and people can’t be trusted with glass objects in stadiums or large events. That’s why they open your bottles before they hand them to you
>>539423513Thank God that doesn't happen now
>>539423513Who cares as long as they do it in their shitholes?Oh, wait.
>>539423119If it's bottled correctly the seal should be on the outside corners of the glass, and the bottles are shipped mostly upright. I'd still rather drink from a glass bottle with a seal than a PET bottle that's been cooking in the sun.
>>539416739I saw this popsci headline going around. Plausible ig but if you're not running a distiller you're just a fluoridefag anyway.Remember when that guy from Burkina Faso said glowies tried to offer him a retardation powder that can be put into food, drink, smoke? The kind that renders a population docile and placid?
>>539417065>glass bottle of cokeI remember as a kid noticing how much better it tastes
>>539423358Everything tastes better without petrochemicals being leached into it.Try leaving a plastic bottled water out in the sun next to a glass bottled water for a few hours and appreciate the difference.Unless maybe you savor the added flavor of the plastic.
>>539423620>That’s why they open your bottles before they hand them to youor perhaps it's just convenient and they don't want drunk people littering tiny bottle caps everywhere
We have those here for most drinksThirdies cannot into recycling, that's why you don't have them in America and other nigger coutnries
>>539423776It depends on the stadium and their reasoning, but you keep the cap they just want to remove the built up pressure inside the bottle
>>539415979>doesn't break in hand while drinkingI don't get the point of mentioning this. Neither do cans or plastic bottles.
>>539423759I have a crate of small glass empties like op's pic in the back of my truck. I will exchange them next week when I cross into Mocambique for a few hours. I only enjoy coke in small glass bottles. It's real coke with can sugar. Our beer is in reusable glass quarts, but coke in PET
They came out with studies that already despunked this where they cleaned the bottles with rubber / plastic bristles and found "microplastics" inside them because of this, they also made a few more fake studies saying that it ackshually costs many times more in terms of pollution to melt and reuse glass.It's mostly because plastic is a byproduct industry, it comes out for free when you process oil so they try to sell it any way they can, including funding literally thousands of studies claiming glass = hitler material.>>539423707It's safe to discard all popsci headlines immediately, the industries just pay for them to ensure you make them more money.These seals last for years and never made the stuff taste like plastic, whereas you can literally taste the plastic in a years-old plastic drink of any kind.
>>539420589There are no "actual studies", lmao.
>>539424399>plasticTry to use real words. PET is nasty stuff even for water. I can taste it. PE is fine, it's a wax. I don't know what they use in the bottle top linings because these bots keep saying "soft plastic". It isn't in contact with the fluid and it's a small area so I suspect these "studies" are excuse making. This crap about rubber brushes is obv bullshit. They use a bit dishwasher with jets. My only complaint about glass is the beer bottles are fragile and fishing spots have dangerous shards. Not here but across the border in the republic where people are gross
Almost all glass bottles of coca cola I see now are imported from Mexico. It tasted far better than local stuff because they actually use sugar rather than syrups.I've moved away from most soda as HFCS replaced cane sugar in almost all of it. RC Cola is the last big one that uses cane sugar but is too expensive to drink
>>539424813Nah if a material is plastic I call it plastic, rubber is also just plastic.I don't differentiate the types either, fuck off retard.
>>539415979Microplastics schizo thread.
>>539424321Rare ooga booga jungle nigger tribal war chief flag
>>539424994>American parades his ignorance as a badge of honour Every.single.time; repulsive
>>539423620It's lighter and cheaper to make.
>>539425104Putting words on a screen won't change anything. If it's plastic I'm just gonna call it plastic. Industrial byproduct / waste from oil made into something that resembles plastic is plastic no matter what names you make up, and that's what I call it.
>>539416075>Heated sand is expensiveWhy?
>>539424994Rubber comes from a tree.
>>539425295Except the synthetic slop polymer (a plastic) whenever you're talking about bottles.
>>539425208That's fine. It's hard to communicate information without words but since it's just you and your infantile emoting at play who cares. I won't bother explaining the main source of microplastics. That would be pearls before swine
>>539425377Yeah you posted words again that don't mean anything.>>539425295>>539425344Oh and also how modern rubber is all polymerized so it turns into plastic, that's one too."rubber" is not even rubber, lmao.
>>539418003Couldnt they do the german pfand thing? When you get some money back for returning the glass bottle?
>>539425463Fuck nigger retard, stfu faggotThat's about all the american I can speak, so like whatever man
>>539415979Glass is heavy, transporting glass bottles costs a lot more, same reason they use plastic bags at the supermarket over paper if they can.
>>539417065>>539423728Soda in glass bottles taste amazing compared to soda in plastic bottles. The other thing is the use of cane sugar instead of HFCS. Soda that uses sugar other than high fructose corn syrup taste better.
>>539416631Do they even recycle glass in europe? They just crush it here and dump it, glassmaking is too cheap and moving the glass back to a furnace is too costly.
>>539425505Fuck them. Let them drink their pthalates and corn syrup. Bunch of golem retards
>>539425104>faggot with a 4chang pass has an opinionevery time
>>539425090Kek
>>539425765>(((Laurentian))) projects mendacity Like clockwork
>>539421168>Littering is a cross-generational issueNo, it's a racial issue. While whites can, and do, litter, it has nothing on what jeets, niggers, and gooks do. Everyone knows the shit jeets do. They shit in the open air. Their religious rituals are basically a culture impetus to spread garbage around. Niggers throw shit everywhere. Major cities are littered with chicken bones and the remnants of cigarette and cigar packaging. Asians will constantly skirt around disposal laws for hazardous materials. Chinese will literally dump oil in a field to dispose of it then scurry off like the bugs they are. Environmentalism is a white European concept.
>>539415979I don't think this is a real question. But here. Plastic is BIG FUCKING BUSINESS.A petroleum byproduct that businesses wanted to sell.Glass is more breakable, they don't give a fuck about you, but as concerns the costs of shipping, THEY WIN. Petro-chem companies pitched this to Coca-Cola AND ALL OF THEM. >Well sell you bottles that cost less than glass. BAM.FUCK ALL OF YOU CUNTS. I HOPE ALL OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THESE DECISIONS DIE OF COLON CANCER.
>>539426079> deliciosa y refrescanteindeed
>>539424399>It's mostly because plastic is a byproduct industry, it comes out for free when you process oil so they try to sell it any way they can, including funding literally thousands of studies claiming glass = hitler material.>>539426079Yep there it is. It's a byproduct.
>>539423538DEP and DEHP were cited in the study as phthalates tentatively harmful to reproductive health and are leached from PETE beverage containers still in common use today.I use the word "tentatively" because the results of the studies are often conflicting.We could go into an argument about the replication crisis and funding bias if you really want.
>>539425619You are literally just an american with a memeflag on.
>>539426339>phthalatesThere you go. You are catching on. As a reward; spun polyester fabrics, pillow stuffings are recycled coke bottles. Tiny little morgellons that break up. Recycled plastic is more frangible than virgin
>>539416739Idk if it’s true in this case, but it is depressing how often something similar is true. For example, you’d think eating canned food in a metal can would be okay, but the insides are lined with plastic shit now that leeches into the food. Another - you think you’re safe using only cotton clothing/bedding, but you’re still getting the estrogens from the flame retardant chemicals (plastic based) they put in everything. It’s all so fucking gay. There’s no escape. Every man nowadays should probably be on TRT
>>539419556>>539419888>>539420589old ones didnt have plastic under the cap
>>539426403Most certainly not. That should be obvious by my vocabulary and demeanor, or you could enhance the pic I posted. I hold you and your countrymen in the highest contempt; I have spent some time there and covered some country
>>539426587> frangibleBased LLM Shaka.
>>539421377My tiny town of 1k people is 99% white and the little family owned grocery store carries the Mexican cokes and orange fanta.. it's amazing how much better they taste with real sugar. Its the only soda I buy anymore
>>539426766Frangible isn't quite the word I was looking for but I'm tired. I wanted the word that keeps a whet stone fresh as it ... friable!!!! It just came to me as I babbled
The jew fears the glassblower
>>539423689The plastic liner has to cover all the metal. There's no metal that can be in contact with the liquid for long-term storage.
>>539426744Nah you type exactly like an american and get mad as often as them, this is just an american pretending. It's extremely obvious.
>>539426744>>539427041>Indubitably sirs, I dare say that by the eve of the morrow we'll have our man yet!100% american posting. What makes someone LARP that they're not from their own country? I've never felt the urge to do this at all.
>>539427041I don't get mad, I match your energy like fighting with a drunk. I am always talking to some sort of nigger and untermensch and adjust my style so that they can understand
>>539426919> babbling > whetstone fresh> friable I don't believe you
>>539427340>I don't get mad I match your energyOk so you're like 18 too.>>539427457>I don't get mad I match your energyLLM's trained off american reddit odds increasing every post.
>>539415979they still sell those. i don't know about the restrict regulation of the global north, but here in the global south, you can still get the glass version; it's a bit pricier, and honestly no one who buys them cares about the environment or microplastics or any of that; the soda inside just have a better taste (arguably) and that's why they still make them / people still buy them.
>>539426079>Plastic is BIG FUCKING BUSINESS.Gawd damn, if this seemingly benign thread isn't under siege.>>539426699Sweet.Gotta save that penny per unit though.On the subject, I haven't seen a true cork wine stopper for the past 15 years at least.
>>539427666>Haven't seen a true cork wine stopperMy cousin makes wine and buys these in bulk, he doesn't even factor them into the cost of the wine because they're so cheap.They're saving literal pennies per bottle of wine using the fake corks, for something like a pop bottle it would be a fraction of this, maybe 1/2 a cent or 1/4.
>>539427548>LLM's trainedNot far off; when we talk to others we adopt their words and patterns of speech. That's why /pol/ got so wrecked by the enragement bots; it's diffusion of the Logos and it drives the hive mind. I fight back with neologisms and search them in the archives like tracer isotope shibboleths
>>539426919holy rare flag
>>539427457Funny how we leapfrogged the Turing test to the reverse Turing test
>>539427548I've argued against racists, statists, conservatives, zogbots, jews, glamim and goyim, in that order, spanning decades.But this ... this drains me.Societal atomisation is almost complete.I have no idea how to fight this.I'm tired.
>>539427894> prove to me that you're a real jewsimulacra etc.
There's no dodging plastic. Then even started replacing wine cork stoppers with plastics mix now it's fucking annoying.I still only exclusively buy glass bottles for beer and the yearly cola craving but it's only because the flavor profile is more to my liking compared to aluminium cans.
>>539427995>Simulacra and simulacrums - BaudrillardWas he a jew? Read a book nigger
>>539415979I'd buy them exclusively if they weren't $9 for six little eight-ounce bottles.
>>539427340>>539427548I recognize that anon.He's a based White man with intimate knowledge of the subversion of South Africa and Rhodesia , you filthy kike.
>>539415979>no estrogens, not any toxicity>doesn't break in hand while drinkingneither of those points apply to plastic, either
>>539428232> tf> niggerProve to me ...No, anon. My point is that lemingness/normalfaggotry/NPCism had leaked into spaces previously inhabited by sentient beings.It's a token faggotry what's left.How big is your context?
>>539427340>>539428325Nine birds flew into the nightIn the inky darknessGreat were their wingsGleaming in the moonlightEach one flew at its own paceRight into the moon
>>539428311It costs 5 or 6 dollars to exchange a crate of 24 empties in Mocambique >>539428325Nice to see you, anon
>>539428499>How big is your context?It's too big anon. I have to tone it down. The fake always seeks to destroy the real
>>539425970Japanese seem pretty clean so I would not put all the gooks in the same basket
>>539428543The moon has passed overhead. Birds are tweeting. I'm going to bed. Good night
>>539415979Glas bottles are too heavy for the basedboy generation.
>>539428699 checkedFunny, yet it seems the opposite to me.We already called each other niggerjews some months back. I recognise your tracks, so to speak.I remember calling you an "uppity nigger". I did that exactly for the same reason which drove me to ask about your context size.Pardon my tardness, but you're a sperg.No homo.
>>539425250The actual answer is that the grinding process that produce feedstocks for glass are very energy intensive. Milling hard material requires a shit ton of power. Aluminum bottles are were we should be moving.
>>539429527achieving 2000C+ is also an expensive process
They still use glass for soda here. I prefer them because glass holds the carbonation better, and I like a satisfying fizz
>>539415979You shouldn't drink the liquid goyslop that destroys your teeth to begin with
>>539415979Shipping logisticsThat's it. Back in the 90s there was HUGE propaganda about how "plastics make it possible" or whatever the marketing term was, every gen x'er remembers the commercials that pushed plastic. Now they don't even hide it and Google straight up tells you glass is more recyclable
Jewish corporations want to maximize profits and poison the goys if possible.
>>539429139What a crazy coincidence that Hitler called them honorary Aryans, huh?
>>539417065Even aluminum is better than plastic.A lot of shit is nasty out of plastic bottles.
>>539415979Plastic is cheaper, lighter and less prone to breakages. Any other questions you'd like answered?
Glass bottles can be broken for purposes of malicious mischief. For example, breaking these bottles and throwing these shards into public beaches, where they cut open children usually.We jus can't have nice things because of few degenerates.
>>539416739>Glass bottles actually give you more microplastic exposure.I remember when this psyop launched a few months ago.
>>539415979estrogens are good, they help preventing balding
>>539433521It's true, Italian men never go bald.
>>539432314There was a study published, which makes it FACTI wonder who was behind it?
