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>>539425866>goes to foreign country>ignores national customs and norms>acts outraged about people doing things differently Isn't this what they constantly accuse American tourists of doing?
>>539426397taste your own med arrogant pig
>>539426397Is someone begging me for money considered a national custom?
>>539426397>national customs and normsYour national custom is being raped and shot to death by a nigger. Not necessarily in that order.Don't expect people to put up with your kike schemes.If you want to fuck each other over, so be it, but customers are not responsible for going along with mandatory 'tips' to pay for your salaries, fucktards.
>>539426397my customs are paying extra money for service and circumcision o algo
>i support the working class!>no not like that
>>539425866There is no law requiring me to tip, right?Either include the waiters' wages in the prices of your products or make a law that regulates tipping.
>>539426397I don't pay tips to Niggers.
>>539425866Broke euros will not pay the workers and then gaslight you about how they're virtuous by doing so.
>>539427954The boss should pay the workers afaik
>>539427578Guess you never heard about israel or ukraine
>>539425866Good. Let amerigolems deal with the unhinged crapitalism they destroyed the world to try and force on everyone else. Their punishment has only just begun.
>>539426397Fuck your "customs and norms", your disgusting, greasy meals are overpriced as it is, why the fuck should we pay tips on top, you should be paying tourists for eating your disgusting slop> INB4 muh ranch dressing
>>539427913Or, and hear me out, before you come to my country you read up on how we do business and you conform to the way we do business. This isn't Europe, boy. This is the civilized world where people who are good at service jobs can actually make good money.
>>539428525>Comes to the US>Only eats at Olive Garden>Bitches about it
>>539428537>This isn't Europe, boy. This is the civilized world where people who are good at service jobs can actually make good money.In civilized world workers are paid enough that they don't have to beg customers for money.
I like americans and a cute waitress in hawaii bounced on my penor after i gave her a a big tip on holidays. Americans are really nice and they are awesome. They are the inheritors of rome and our greatest ally. I ignore all jewish subversion trying to ferment hatred between our peoples
tipping is for slavesfull stop.if you need tips to earn a proper income from your job YOU ARE A FUCKING SLAVEalso 1 post by the poop colored skinned op
>>539425866nothing in America makes sense until you view it as a slavery plantation ran by absolute mentally degenerate religious nutjobs whose endless fuckups have been paved over by an endless money supply thanks to petrodollar advantages.luckily that's coming to an end and hell is coming to America as these white assholes realize they can't compete without massively outspending the competition.Nearly all of our politicians should be hanged, GOP and Democrats alike, especially the sick fucks defending Israel. And then Israel should be wiped off the map to stabilize the region.
>>539428537>This is a civilized worldit's not much but it should keep you going a little while longer.
>>539428525>> INB4 muh ranch dressing
>>539426397A tip in the US is a mandatory 20% surcharge that's neither included in the price nor mentioned on the pricelist because doing either is Communism.A tip in the rest of the world is a voluntary amount to show appreciation.
>>539428690>In civilized world workers are paid enough that they don't have to beg customers for money.I worked for tips at an up-market place in the late 90's and could bring home $1000 in a weekend. In 1997. I don't think you idiots understand that if you do away with tips and make all servers work for the same amount regardless of how good they are or how hard they work, there will be no servers. This isn't Europe where everyone feels entitled to a paycheck for the simple act of existing and showing up to work occasionally.
The retards that are anti tipping don't seem to understand how easy it is to make decent money from tips if you do a decent job and don't have mouth breathing jew minded customers. Forcing businesses to pay a "living wage" will hurt the people in those jobs but it doesn't matter if you get to circle circlejerk about sticking it to capitalism right?
>>539428537This is how you do business in the US btw
>>539429115Not where I live. It's probably been 4 weeks since I've seen a negro. And the last one I saw, I had to drive 30 miles to a business meeting in the city.
>>539429187SorryI assumed you lived outside the meth belt since you're on the internet and can write in EnglishHere you go
>>539429238You know what we don't have here in the Red states? Ahmed cutting peoples' heads off or driving a van through a Christmas market.
>>539425866american culture is cancer im leaving
>>539429105No, I fully understand that "people" who could barely graduate high school think they're entitled to a shitload of money (tax-free) because they brought some food to my table. What I don't understand is why this retarded system has persisted here when it's clearly fucking stupid.
>>539426397>ignores national customs and normsWhen getting robbed in broad daylight they expect nigger to have a knife atleast.
>>539429373>brought some food to my tableIf you think that's all there is to it, then you're some sort of midwit who probably thought they were too good to do actual work. Seriously, I dated a girl who was a server at a fine dining place who made more per year than some professionals. And the rub there was that she was a professional. But people don't seem to regard them as such.
>>539429105So what? Why don't you individually negotiate the salary of literally anybody you get a service from? Why don't you tip the fucking cvashier at wal mart and the theft prevention guy on your way out for doing such a good job keeping niggers stealing TVs and forcing them to raise prices for paying customers? Because it's fucking retarded. It's a relic of a custom from southern ex-slave owners who still wanted to larp as aristocrats and business owners trying to get around minimum wage laws during the depression.
>>539426397ITT we laugh at americans BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>539429316How would you know?You call them "White Caucasian"
>>539425866Australians in disbelief as US waitress explains the concept of freedom of speech: "I can't believe people aren't arrested for shitposting on the internet"..
>>539427954It's the employer's job to pay workers you dumb nigger
>>539429467>But people don't seem to regard them as such.Because they aren't. It's a no skill. nigger tier job. It could be replaced by a fucking counter.>muh fine diningFaggot.
>>539429522Meanwhile in France
>>539429105Normalcy bias and baseline dependency, restaurants function in the rest of the world you know, you can stuff lard asses without needing it, purely cultural and unnecessary, you can change the model and businesses will either adapt or collapse, which is a good thing under your supposed "free market" right? Cut the fat, literally and figuratively...Or don't and then also don't act surprised or offended when tourists are bewildered by it.
>>539426397Whenever I see Americans abroad they're always shouting and wearing hats and sunglasses indoorsI saw like 3 different Americans get told off in France for wearing baseball caps in CatherdralsFollow local customs? Try not shouting in a quiet restaurant then I'll think about tipping
>>539429481>It's a relic of a custom from southern ex-slave owners who still wanted to larp as aristocrats and business owners trying to get around minimum wage laws during the depressionThen it failed because when I was waiting tables and tending bar, if they told me I was going to get paid the same as the dude who always showed up late and high, if at all, I would have quit. I made bank because I was good at it. If you mandate that people like me had to be paid the same as some schlub, there'd be no good service, retard. You'd get European style "service" where the servers don't give a shit if you starve to death while sitting at a table.
>>539428537good bait
>>539427913You know that "high trust society" that everyone on /pol/ is always saying that they want? Our tipping customs are part of our culture, and they date back to a time where we once did have much more of a high trust society than we do now. With tipping, you are on something called "the honor system." We assume that your a good enough human being that you will tip. A lot of aspects of American society still work like this. I feel bad for Europeans where such a system is no longer feasible. It's possible to expand our high trust society customs here. I think that most of Europe is too far gone desu
>>539426397Do you go to India and eat shit since all jeets eat shit too or shitting on the street?No, retarded behavior has to be called out.
>>539429644What an odd way of saying I triggered the shit out of you without admitting it.
>>539429187Go one, where do you live? I love when Burgers say "erm I live in whiteland but it's a secret where :)" because it doesn't fucking exist because even the whitest states of America are still pretty brown compared to most of European towns
>>539429626Why didn't you pull yourself up by your bootstraps and negotiate a better wage with your boss for yourself if you're such a good waiter instead of begging for handouts from customers you welfare queen? You should tip the customers so they'll give you a better tip.
>>539429705>No, retarded behavior has to be called out.I agree. But we're talking about tipping in this thread. And that's not retarded. It's how I was able to afford a car and a good apartment right out of high school.>>539429741>because even the whitest states of America are still pretty brownJust stfu, man. Here's the last (You) you're craving from me.
>>539429741I don't think you realize how big the US is. You can drive for 4+ hours through the Midwest and not see a single town
>>539425866Maybe we should make some traditions that even poor foreigners can take part in? Besides, if we did away with tips we could just hire niggers for everything, that would definitely help the industry with diversity.
>>539425866It's extortion plain and simple, everything is a bit dodgy over there as soon as money is involved, they don't even display the right price for items on the shelf, it's only when you pay that you find out about the mystery taxes and surcharges which is totally illegal here and would result in firebombing.
>>539429796Because I could make at least $1k in tips in three 8 hour shifts over a weekend. IN 1997! Who the fuck was getting paid $42 an hour in 1997? That's the whole point of tipping. It's been a very long time since I did it, but I was good at it. And I took that same level of professionalism into the broader work force and excelled at it.
>>539429928If you couldn't negotiate 42 bucks an hour with your boss for yourself then obviously you weren't that good of a waiter. WELFARE QUEEN!
>>539425866Ask your boss to pay you.
>>539429808You could have afforded that too if your boss actually paid you a living wage for "working".
>>539429919it's also not the same everywhere, I got fucked on car I bought, grew up in a state where the sales tax is normally part of the loan, moved to another state, sales rep never said a thing about excluding the taxes from the loan, so I just assumed "yeah duh normal", nope, had to dive into savings for the taxes on a new car just to get it registered. That's America, if you don't have a solid amount of money in backup for these shiesty kike games, you're fucked.
>>539429919right, this is true. the prices displayed here are pre-tax. now for some goods, like gasoline, that is not true. they display the final price. but different states have different sales taxes or different exemptions from sales tax. for instance in my state, groceries and clothing are not subject to sales tax.
>>539430085The customer is the boss they literally tell her what to get for them in exchange for money
>>539425866A mediocrity surcharge.
>>539430135Probably not as good as he got with tips, but "a-bloo bloo bloo, without tips how else would I prey on the social pressure, guilt, and the implicit fear of getting their food spat in of paying customers for extra handouts to make a greatly outsized amount of income for my relative job skills and experience???" is an excellent argument for the top-down abolition of tipping.
>>539430435>Just cough up a buck you cheap bastard I paid for your breakfast
>>539430316Ok, as the boss of all waiters I officially fire them for asking for tips. Get in the unemployment line waiters! That's how it works right? Because I'm their boss.
>>539430435I've heard many American arguments that if tipping stopped then the prices for food would rise but that's retarded since with such high tips which are expected every single time then the overall prices for everything are already much higher.Do spics tip? I've heard niggers never tip so it seems it's only white retarded Americans who pay extra prices and many support this nonsense lmao
>>539425866Every news article is fake until proven to be true.
>>539430981They probably wouldn't rise much as you'd think because businesses obviously have as much incentive to keep prices low and restaurants especially know sticker shock can really hurt them, which is course is why they like the semi-hidden costs of tipping in the first place alongside of not having to be the ones to pay their employees. The biggest outcomes of it would probably be that waiters would lose a ton of income unless they got organized (not my problem, and even if they did I doubt they would recover much of it) and the entire restaurant industry would probably see at least a minor crash because Americans suddenly seeing the true costs of the slop they eat up front would cause a lot of them to just stay home and stop going out so much (once again, not my problem)
Unites state of retardation is getting bitchy again. Is the orange fuck twisting your balls again? Haven't seen this level of faggotry in a long time. Feels bad knowing they'll have to suck cock for cash on the side now.
>>539429085We have tipping here as well, but you don’t get verbally assaulted for ‘only’ tipping 10%.
no one outside the US get's it because. if the service is shit at the place you just don't go there again. tipping is some jewish shit
now imagine being asked to tip when ordering takeout before you even get your food, that's the new normal in this country.
>>539429705>Do you go to IndiaIt came here.
>>539432887at lets the gay apps like jewber ask for the tip afterwards
What's the more retarded practice -- having to follow every unspoken Japanese social rule required to get from a home to a restaurant, buy food, eat and then return home, or Tipping?
>>539426397I don't even support the customs and norms here. I despise western culture.
>>539427913You can still be held liable, filthy Gaijin
>>539426397Seethe more, tipcuck.
>>539426397Dude.The concept of tipping how it exists in your country is ludicrous.
>>539426397Your national custom is a business owner not paying his staff enough so they have to beg foreigners for money?
>pay our wages so the owners don't have to!>this is what a high trust society looks like!>if you don't subsidise the restaurant owners to allow them to pay sub-minimum wage, you're practically a barbarian!
>>539425866>>539426397America is pretty fucked. It is a predatory nation run by predatory people. So I never feel bad when America looks bad to other nations. They just reveal the truth of the world in how predatory capitalism is towards society, and it's people.
How come America can't afford to pay living wages to workers?
>>539427578in the US it obviously is
>>539435917>Here's a tip wagecuck: Organize!
>>539427578I don't know, is charging to get into a public bathroom, or charging for toilet paper, or insisting toilet paper gets thrown into a shitstained trash bin next to the toilet because the piping can't handle tp considered a national custom? What about making people at a restaurant wait 90mins for atrocious combative service? Why don't you tell me?
>>539436130yes yes I know kidimages speaks volumes of your mental capacityyou will die alone
>>539427578On streets of New Delhi, it is.
>>539430981>I've heard many American arguments that if tipping stopped then the prices for food would riseThey would rise, but not very much, maybe 10%-20%. It's been done numerous times by well meaning naive small restaurant owners and every single time the waitstaff is somewhat against it before it goes into effect then after the first few days they cry bloody murder about it because their total earnings end up less than half what it was even though their on paper wage was more than doubled. The last one I heard about around 15 years or so ago was a cafe in Seattle that hiked their wage floor to the mid $20/hr range and all the waiters threatened to quit at once if it wasn't reverted because it turned out they were all making $40+/hr with tips and the change amounted to a massive pay cut.
>>539427913It's fundamentally about what the price of an item is. If you see a coffee at a cafe cost $5, it makes no sense that you should pay something else for the coffee.You advertise a price, the customer pay that price.Doing calculus to find out how much an item "really" cost, is an absurd system.
>>539425866Civilisation vs. low moral gaijin
>>539436503>$40/hrPfft. Average waiter "takes care of" 8 tables an hour. Average table total $80 - $100 (yes, that's reasonable). $20 tip per table = $160/hr for taking your order and annoying you 2 or 3 times for a total of 90 seconds near your table. Waitstaff rarely bring your meals out anymore, it's kitchen staff. Only job more overpaid are "performers" (formerly known as court jesters).
>>539437397They weren't pulling $20 per table and they weren't manning 8 tables an hour but the sentiment is generally accurate. I worked as a waiter for a couple years in that time period and I was making less than $40/hr all in but not a whole lot less and I'm a man who wasn't the type to get the wine aunts and cougars tickled pink. I was close friends with some middling young women who were pulling figures like you allude to though. It's most of the reason I as a general rule don't tip anymore.
>>539427725>Your national custom is being raped and shot to death by a nigger.yours is being invaded by us
They can't legaly force you to tip, what are they going to do, except cry about it on the internet?
>>539438355piss in your food
>>539438554You tip before being served ? They are right, you really do things differently in germany.
>>539426397Yes, but we are correct and pay our workers a living wage so that tips are exactly that, a small expression of gratitude for excellent service. Not everyday run of the mill, just doing your job, service.
>ITT: retards don't understand the purpose of tipping It's yet another arm of Affirmative Action for their nigger gods, it's a way for white people to subsidise the food of niggers. The mechanism is quite simple:>niggers don't tip>conscientious white people do >niggers get their food at a discounted unsustainably low price >white people make up the difference and keep the business running
>>539429578more like this
>>539438618retard
>>539429578I can't believe how white was our team back then
>>539426397Nigger there is a difference between a difference culture and demanding money for nothing.
>>539438622he ends up paying a tip in the movie because he's weak cuck.
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>>539426397you have>imperial system>tippingwe have>everything closed on sundays
>>539438965impressive, they managed to somehow make soccer even gayer - thats no small feat
>>539425866It is retarded>Yes, you're expected to tip>No, we won't tell you exactly how much>But Yes, we will be upset if the amount you give is too low>And we won't price it into the meal as some form of percentage service fee, because we know we can guilt trip most into giving us moreThis is how America's bottom treat their customers. They have no right to complain about predatory behaviour coming from the top.
>>539426397>It's a national custom to be a beggerThen don't cry when we call you nigger.It's our national custom to belt the fuck out of uppity yanks.
>>539430311>please accept our convoluted extra customary confusion systemholy shit this is the burger copium post of the thread.
