50% tariffs will cause immense harm to my people. Thoughts?
>>539427172>Thoughts?I think Howard Lutnick is going to make even more money
Don't worry, it will cause immense harm to our people as well
>>539427172DAY OF THE RAKE INCOMING
If tariffs are so bad, why does Canada have so many?
>>539427231How?
had to jeet it to you
>>539427172It’s a tax on the American people, it might reduce sales to the US but will also stall their building and arms replenishment. Everyone is shooting their own feet to show how tough everyone is now I guess.
>>539427326lol you actuality think that kike will reply to you?
>>539427386>Toronto burns down due to terrible tax allocation and the smoke is impacting Canadians worse than Americans>"It's ok because it also slightly hurts Americans">new tariffs will decimate the Canadian economy>"It's ok because it also slightly hurts Americans"You people are sociopaths I hope you can understand this
>>539427326Because Canada needs to be concerned about things like food security when trading with as much larger market. There is no reality where we can produce more corn than American farmers and put them out of business. On the other hand America can say flood our market with cheap dairy until our farmers give up, and then use their control of our market to threaten us some more.Tariffs are bad for America a lot of the time because they gain nothing from them. There is no potential threat to their sovereignty. For smaller countries trading with larger ones that threat exists and tariffs make sense for them to negotiate as part of a deal.
You can stop it any time by ceasing your illegal removal of US liquor from shelves which violates basic trade agreements, and also abandoning your communist state owned means of production aka the crown corporation system, and also your communist milk and egg etc quota command economy with 300% tariffs etc that were the real start of this trade war. Look inward brownoid. 4 liberal mandates, you deserve immense harm. You voted for it.
>>539427629Ok well America needs to be concerned about things like food security when trading with as much larger market.
>>539427629
>>539427172Good, FUCK dairyniggers, those faggots blocked Maxime Bernier from leading the Conservative Party.
>>539427484lmao if only Toronto would burn down. It's mostly forests 9001 miles from anything except maybe an Indian reserve of 57 chugs. It's not okay, but it would be insanely expensive to deal with and it gets hotter and drier every fucking year now which we have no control over. You could pay your government 1000% tariffs on our goods and we still wouldn't deal with it. Hell you could take us over and you wouldn't pay to deal with it either.
>>539427883Which is what? China maybe. For some thing. No one is producing more corn than you so there is not threat to your food security for example. You ask for other things during trade deals.>>539427884>i am retarded and don't understand so here is an edgy memeOkay, memeflaggot. This will be your only (you).
>>539427172Your country doesn't have a true right wing nationalist government and I've heard pic related is a "legal immigrant" is okay guy but how the fuck did you reelect TruCucks party back into power. Is your citizenry really that Trump deranged they voted for the anti-trump guy even thought the Canadian prime minister is not a American government official and has no power over the president. And that said president has already proven he will cut the nose off to spite the face for other countries that slight him. Mark the cuck has had zero effect on American policies canucks don't like and it has hurt your country.
>>539428220>You ask for other things during trade deals.Okay well you're gonna need to give them then aren't you? I mean if you want to have tariffs on us but not us on you. You see what I'm sayin'?
>>539428456>>539427172Let me expand on this too, Trump is super easy to deal with. Observe Japanese prime minister doing the meet and greet and giving him surface level agreements(American cars bypassing Japanese safety tests they can't easily pass due to size) that won't matter much.Instead the liberals in Ontario elected Mark the Cuck because your boomers are mad Trump is deporting illegals and are trying to box with the American economy when your are a complete lightweight.
>>539428456Most people here don't want a right wing nationalist government. Pierre was the anti-Trudeau guy. When Trudeau left he lost a lot of his appeal. I don't really like Carney, but he dropped some of the environmental bullshit and that turbo-environmentalist faggot Guilbeault is gone from cabinet, but he's pushing hard for censorship and still wants to grab guns so I'll never vote for him. But if he actually gets some pipelines built and shit a lot of people will think he was okay in the end.The conservatives, especially the back room faggots, are too chummy with MAGA and a lot of people don't like that. And no one thinks anyone here has power over your president. But it seems mostly pointless to try to make a deal with him. Trump didn't honour that deal for the bridge, he raves that USMCA is the worst deal ever even though it was his deal. Sucking up to him doesn't work. It's better to just wait him out and hope he has a heart attack or something. We can make deals when someone who isn't completely untrustworthy is your president.
>>539429110>It's better to just wait him out and hope he has a heart attack or somethingSounds like your national strategy at this point desu. Iran and China know that feel.
>>539427172>my people Your people belong in india, pajeet. Or better yet, a woodchipper.
>>539428827No. You signed USMCA with our tariffs and quotas still in place. You had tariffs on some of our stuff before, just not much since like I said they're mostly useless to you as the larger market. But you want to trade with us and give us pieces of paper for oil. Paper that we reinvest back into your companies a lot of the time anyway. So you let us have some tariffs and quotas. If you tell us that the only way we can have free trade with you is to let you decimate our food productions and give you something else to threaten our sovereignty with then we're going to say no. Especially after all the threats.
Canada deserves to suffer, all i see is thecanadian jew crying about whites, anglos or europeans, im almost certain every canadian poster is now some sort of shitjeet-adjacent subhuman.Anglos must retake Canada once all is said and done, fucking faggot infested shithole.
>>539429279The entire world knows that feel.
>>539428456>Trump derangedHow are Canadians Trump deranged?>anti-trump guyThe irony is that the only thing going for Poilievre was that he wasn't Trudeau. That was what they banked their entire campaign on. Keep in mind if Trump wasn't suck a fucking retard, he could have simply said/done nothing for a couple months until the election, but nope. He torpedoed what was the easiest, most winnable election in living memory.>zero effect on American policies. Literally nobody does. Even when they brownnose Trump and even then he changes his mind every 2hr-2weeks.> it has hurt your countryHmmm should I have voted for the career politician Trump cuck? Or. The world renowned economist?You voted for a low iq reality tv star pedo, who has broken every promise he's ever made and has never once in his life taken accountability for a single thing, and are proud of it...
>>539429338Probably the most retarded thing I’ve read today, good job
>>539427172>my peopleCanada isn't a people.
>>539428456>Your country doesn't have a true right wing nationalist government neither does yours, retard
>>539427172What's the rationale for having extreme and specific tariffs anyway? Other than industry and political corruption, that is. If a region has a competitive advantage then they can... compete. I was under the impression we had free trade with North America, but it looks like we have hundreds of very high tariffs and taxes, going both ways, on everything except mexican migration.
>>539427172>retaliating against X and YHe's a nigger that wants to put the tariffs in place and then finds an excuse later. It would be nice if our politicians stopped trying to placate his horseshit.
>>539429329>So you let us have some tariffs and quotas.But what if Trump says no?>If you tell us that the only way we can have free trade with you is to let you decimate our food productions and give you something else to threaten our sovereignty with then we're going to say no.Good, then no free trade between us. That's good right. You don't want that and it's why you want to keep the tariffs...but you only want it to be one way, where you do it to us but not us to you.
>>539429539Good. It's why I voted Trump 3 times. The rest of the world is desperately waiting for him to die and it's great.
>>539427172We deserve to suffer
>>539427339This is what I've seen first hand, if you're running a factory that produces complex finished goods in the US where you were previously buying sub-assemblies/materials made in Canada to lower your costs you're now stuck with this huge jump in production cost. In Trump's mind this means the factory will take the burden and raise the product price while making extra jobs in America and overall there's a positive GDP contribution. Whet actually happens is the factory says "fuck that I'm not taking on the risk that comes with this now unsellable product and we're just dropping it altogether". So you get a negative GDP contribution and less jobs.
>>539430628We want free trade on things that aren't a threat to our sovereignty. We're not going to give up food security to trade with you. You will use it against us later. We are not the same. We want different things. This should be be easy to understand if you're not a tranny. Men and women are different. They want different things. Canada and the US are different. They want different things.
>>539427484>muh smokeNobody cares about that except for faggots and look who complains the most about it.
>>539430663>i have overdosed on internet trollingOkay. You being entertained in some childish way doesn't mean it's good for your nation.
>>539427172How will tariffs on Canada harm people in India?
>>539430900>We're not going to give up food security to trade with you.Then we don't need to trade. I had no idea that Canada was so food insecure like some African shithole. You're the 8th largest agricultural exporter on earth so maybe you should stop sending all your food away if you're so insecure about it.>>539431022No, the rest of the world is contrary to American interests and that's why they want Trump to die, which is great.
>>539427172>Thoughts?I think that the forest fires Trump was complaining about are a form of planned obsolescence where the government backs off of basic fire safety in forests while multiple AI startup companies are pushing their own forestry modelling technology primarily to focus on dangerous forest areas. In the long term, this will have the same effect on park ranger and forest fire safety services as automated kiosks had on tellers at grocery stores. It's a way of cutting out jobs so that needs get paid while you starve in a burned out desert
>>539427172Thoughts:You still can't export you're oil anywhere else because you're fucking around.You had almost 2 years under Trump and you had 9999 years before him.You will do nothing to be independent.You will give him what he wants. Again.Then he will pressure you with tariffs again, and you will give him even more again.You will never do anything to be independent.
>>539431264If you didn't need to trade with us USMCA wouldn't exist. Spare me your bluster.Part of the reason Africa is so food insecure is because the West sends all of our subsidized crops there and destroys the market. We don't want you to do that to us.The rest of the world isn't contrary to American interests. You're just rambling now.
>>539427172Elbows up bud
>>539427172Trump = Genius
>>539431523>If you didn't need to trade with us USMCA wouldn't exist.It doesn't anymore.>Part of the reason Africa is so food insecure is because the West sends all of our subsidized crops there and destroys the market.https://www.pm.gc.ca/en/news/news-releases/2022/06/23/prime-minister-trudeau-announces-canadian-support-address-global-food
>>539431606Elbows up our asses.The average Canadian is a fucking retard and even though I am not and do not deserve this, the majority of my countrymen are and certainly do.
>>539427172Your people live in a failed state leaf
>>539431771USMCA still exists until the 2030s. We just meet to talk about it annually now. If you have this little of an idea about what is going on why the fuck are you in this thread?Thanks for linking something that proves my point. I guess? Like this says Africa depends on cheap foreign food. When that food is removed people starve. That is exactly the situation we don't want to put ourselves in by letting the US flood our market with cheap food and destroy domestic production.
>>539431608Outsourcing manufacturing leads to freeing up your society to actually progress and innovate. Its one of the reasons the US is(was) the world leader. The fact that Trump and retards want to return to people on the factory lines is beyond profoundly dumb.
>>539427172meh we already are poor as shit this will have no affect on our day to day life the kike lover can try all he want but he jewish ploy wont work
Everything that has happened I told people would happen 10 years ago. The liberal cope has gone from "we're the best country in the world" to "at least we're not lining up for bread".
>>539432025>Elbows up your assNo one asked you to go fuck yourself, but feel free ig
>>539432187Lick my balls you little fucking faggot.
>>539432288You want faggots to lick your balls? That's pretty gay, bud.
>>539432288Wow you so kinky.
>>539432075Nah Trump is dropping it and can at any time. Trade agreements are non binding and may be dropped by either side whenever.
>>539432170>liberal cope>"we're the best country in the world" to "at least we're not lining up for bread".Pls point to specific examples that prove this is the country wide opinion. Weird how I've seen nothing but cucklservatives cope buy saying you don't need iPads, Barbies and "short term pain for long term gain!" over the last year an a half after complaining about the cost of living nonstop since 2020...
>>539429110Stop pretending you or the retards that vote in this country are informed. You are hyper emotional reactionaries with the minds of adult children.
>>539432357>>539432374I'm still easily the most heterosexual leaf in this whole fucking thread.
>>539432025/thread
>>539427326They are bad for Canada lol.
>>539432511this leaf is zesty af
>>539432511Please, you jerk it to trannies.
>>539427172God speed USA - I hope you niggers nuke Ottawa, plz & thnx
>>539432388No, not whenever. There is a six month process to leave. Trump has not given the six months notice that he wants to end the deal. Your Congress has also said that he needs their approval to end it since they had to approve it in the first place. It would end up in court if he tried to bypass them.
>>539432499lmao okay, bud. You sure showed me with your childish insults and rambling.
>>539427222>50% tariffs will cause immense harm to my people. Thoughts?bro just wait till the court rule and get the refund>orange clown just bluffs
>>539432674>>539432689You're probably both zoomers and brown. We'll come find you if we feel like asking the problem for solutions.
>>539433089You boys love to project, don't you?
>>539432813Hmm, well I guess the point is that the admin should trying all the tools at their disposal to fuck Canada and inflict as much economic pain as possible then until they want to negotiate.
>>539427326Tariffs to protect specific markets are good, because you want to make sure that a liquor and dairy sector can survive in your country. Blanket tariffs are retarded, much in the way that putting a cast on a broken arm is good, but giving yourself a full body cast for that same broken arm is retarded.
>>539433329>Blanket tariffs are retardedWhy though? You gave an analogy but didn't say why.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_pleading
>>539427172no one cares
>>539427172We dont owe you anything.It is your responsibility to justify to me why it is bad for me to do this to you.Thats how international relations work.Your entire country is like a preschool class.You dont know fucking anything about the world.
>>539433442What benefit did you get from making shit more expensive you retard
100% Excise duty on all oil, electricity and potash, followed by inviting the UK and France to host Nuclear missiles inside Canada. The I swear to God if you fuck with me I'll kill us all option. And do all this in late October to influence the midterms.
>>539432511Not anymore.>t. entered the thread
>>539433442Well to start, it's a tax on your own people, since the companies aren't going to float the added cost. Secondly, it's overly punitive when America does the same thing to protect its companies. Do you ever wonder why in the rest of the world you can buy small trucks for a purely utilitarian reason, but in America all we have are bloated suvs with small extra beds? That's because we set up tariffs for anything not built in America to overly prohibit competing foreign car manufacturers to protect Ford and GM. Japan doesn't blanket tariffs us because of this, because they understand that it's retarded and they don't have an orange nigger in office.
>>539427386God i fucking hate canadians
I am a humble poutine merchant. I wish to peddle my wares.
>>539427172oh no not the sorry-ass bacon and garbage whiskey!!
>>539427629Your argument is literally "its ok when we do it"Fuck you, what you want is an unfair advantage over American workers.You arent buying corn from the american government, you buy it from farmers and you are trying to fuck them over using so e bullshit "poor me" argument rooted in being weak and pathetic.If you cant sell your products at a lower rate than our farmers, then fuck you your farmers deserve to go out of business.If this makes you dependant on us for food imports thats your own fault for having shitty economic policy.If you would rather start a tariff war than reform your own government, fine, but you dare sit there and claim some moral superiority over it.Fair trade is fair trade, that simple.Tit for tat tariffs are 100% justified.
>>5394278151000% this.Fuck canada and especially their bullshit victim complex.Canadians are such hypocritical pieces of shit.
i can't wait to pay more money for less goods while trump promises me a tariff rebate check that'll instead go to big corporations
>>539427172tariffs are the least of my concern. we got way bigger issues. too many migrants. millions must go
>>539433442Here's Republican Jesus to tell you why tariffs are retarded.https://youtu.be/Foggkeiwlp0Now keep in mind that Trump, literally doesn't know what tariffs are.
>>539433728chink seethe mostly>>539433759>it's a tax on your own peopleso?>the companies aren't going to float the added costgonna be hard for them to remain competitive in the american market if they don't absorb at least some of the cost>Do you ever wonder why in the rest of the world you can buy small trucks for a purely utilitarian reason, but in America all we have are bloated suvs with small extra beds? No, why would I wonder?
>>539428220No I think we understand just fine, we just disagree with everything you're saying because its fucking bullshit.We know what youre doing, we understand why youre doing it, and its why we're telling you to go fuck yourself.
>>539434131Not clicking. I asked why and you can't say why, can you?
>>539434131>>539433730>>539432813You’ll take your 50% tariffs and do nothing but seethe about it. Send your army if you have concerns ;) Spoiler alert: You. Won’t. Do. Shit.
>>539434225>We know what youre doing, we understand why youre doing it, and its why we're telling you to go fuck yourself.His argument is "our tariffs on you are good, yours on us are bad. this you must accept and in the negotiations we should concede nothing and demand everything like Iran does"...it's super cute
>>539433442Because we don't produce everything here. Putting tariffs on shit like natural rubber, coffee, and bananas makes no sense when the domestic alternatives are physically unable to meet the domestic demand.
>>539429110The "deals" you people want are all delusional and one-sided.We can negotiate once you have all finally had a stiff dose of reality and accept the truth of your position.
>>539434300Going to do nothing because I don't have to pay a 50% increase on imported goods. Enjoy.
ITT: niggers
>>539434385>Because we don't produce everything here.Exactly. That's why we need tariffs.> Putting tariffs on shit like natural rubber, coffee, and bananas makes no sense when the domestic alternatives are physically unable to meet the domestic demand.Okay so put them on all the other stuff. No problem fellow American.
>>539434448if tariffs are bad because they're a tax on your own people, why do you support canadian tariffs?
>>539427172Should make it 100% and rake you faggots once and for all.
>>539427231Canada is absolutely insignificant
>>539434194>No, why would I wonder?Zoomer educational system is yet again Americas number one enemy. You deserve everything you get, just accept anything told to you with zero thought or input on your end, so when you wake up with the boot on your neck you just shrug and think to yourself "this is actually a good thing, because the orange nigger said so".
>>539427231You deserve it though
>>539434300Could be worse, they could have to sue for peace while being the agressor and paying the country 300 billion for a "two week totally bro" illegal war.
>>539427172Stop burning your forests down. It is hurting our people. Comprende?
>>539427484Alaska burning down due to poor political application of funding, smoking out British Columbia right now.-picrel from yesterday >Why are Americans so geographically retarded>Canada not screaming for management like Amerikarens Bro, just pull some beer for your little bro like a good guy and stop acting like a retard, you can keep the change just stop being a victim, it’s embarrassing.
>>539427172who cares?i dont buy any american produce goods anyway. slap a 10000% tariff on american goods. won't effect me in the slightest.t. non-consumerist rural canadian
>>539427172prepare you ass because we are going from a recession to a depression
>>539434586Why would I want to drive a motorized richshaw like they do in your country though?
>>539428032natives burn churches, god burns their reservations. simple as.
>>539434646suck on these nuts, you little fucking pussy. i would stomp your faggy ass into the ground if i ever met you. why does he deserve it? because you're so retarded that you can't tell the difference between the population and the politicans? even Iran knows the difference. you on the other hand, DO deserve what you will get.
>>539434514I support them? You must know me better than myself, glowie.
>>539434227>Unilateral tariffs frequently alienate long standing allies and trading partners like Canada, Mexico, EU, ect. This is magnified two fold by 1. Drives business away from the US, and then 2. drives business towards the US's opponents like China. >It completely destabilizes the economy. Businesses are forced to rapidly shift on a dime leading to inefficiencies and higher long-term operational costs. This is also compounded in a lack of trust to invest in anything, as it Trump can tank or spike entire industries with just a tweet, something he regularly does and benefits from, then why would anyone ever invest long term into anything related to the US? >Trump, illegal btw, tariffs bypass congressional or parliamentary checks which consolidates enormous economic power in the presidency. This is how he has been able to make more money in the last 1.5 years then every single previous POTUS, governor, congressman and senator combined in the 250 year history of your country. >Historically tariffs do not work, the most famous historical failure of protectionism occurred when the U.S. enacted sweeping tariffs in the 30's. This lead to the retaliation from dozens of trading partners and it caused U.S. depression to worsen You are not serious people. Pls kys.
>>539434713dont you buy cars, medication, phones or electronics? All of it will take a big hit
>>539434814>hilux, stouts and many more are rickshaws Why buy a pickup if you never plan to use the bed to haul shit? A truck built to be just a truck and not a shitty suv with a mini bed attached is a good thing, its what made old fashioned American trucks so good and desirable across the world. The most you'd haul is groceries so you can stock up on your nuggies you soft handed pussy.
>>539433329Yes correct and some of your fellow americans are just jumping on the hate bandwagon. Think of eggs. Remember when they went skyhigh for you guys. This did not happen here. The way trump is wielding tariffs is just basically as a punitive measure instead of what they could be used for.
>>539433320>well since i don't know anything about this my point is now to be stupid and mean because i find it funnySo we're back to you being some kind of psychopathic child that wants to be entertained. It doesn't matter how much of a tantrum you throw. Canada isn't going to give up food security. It's a sovereignty issue. Our countries are negotiating. Food security is a red line for us like it is for pretty much all countries. If you can't accept it there will be no trade deal and everyone will be poorer.
>>539434514Same reason America taxes China imports, to protect domestic manufacturing because they cannot compete. China pop;1.4 billion USA pop;349,000,000Canada pop;43,000,000>manufacturing is like war, numbers will overwhelm, China can outproduce USA at 4:1 ratio, USA cannot compete so they tax as handicap. Canada is the same.
>>539427172>thoughtsmost of your people are immigrants
>>539434034see >>539430900
>>539427629Ahh yes, the Canadian dairy industry, what a wonderful example. Keeping prices high so we don't have to buy American. Wouldn't surprise me if the supply management quotas make their way into other parts of the Canadian economy in due time. It's 100% something the powers that be would consider as a "reasonable" response to all of this.
>>539427172Thoughts? Yeah: destroy the left
>>539434300Personally I know a lot of TDS retards who get pissed by the tariffs but I don't really care as much. In 2028 when the next president gets elected I really doubt they'll keep them up, republican or otherwise. Also >>539434122
Why is Trump so fucking retarded? We don't buy their booze because he slapped tariffs originally. Now he wants to put more because we are reacting to his original tariffs? Also booze isn't banned, it's just the government is choosing not to buy it
>>539435078>Unilateral tariffs frequently alienate long standing allies and trading partners like Canada, Mexico, EU, ect.I know, look how Canada and Mexico have alienated the US with their tariffs on us.>>539435134>Why buy a pickup if you never plan to use the bed to haul shit?I dunno, why would you in that case?>>539435270>It doesn't matter how much of a tantrum you throw. Canada isn't going to give up food security. It's a sovereignty issue.Great, and so is our stuff so there's no resolution possible and we're just going to need to have full trade war I guess.>Food security is a red line for usWhy do you export so much food then?>>539435274>Same reason America taxes China imports, to protect domestic manufacturing because they cannot compete.I know, and China subsidizes producers because they can't compete. Just look how fucked BYD is now that the subsidies expired lmao.
>>539434814>richshawThe retarded Irony is that you literally want tot regress your country backwards to be more like places like India. Your post here:>>539434474>That's why we need tariffs,proves that you are a complete and utter moron. The fact the the US outsourced so many manual labor jobs made it a world innovator. When you free up more and more of your population to be able to pursue things other then menial mundane bull hit, you create thing like the internet...You are like a business owner who wants to go back to taking orders instead of hiring 3 people to do freeing up your time to expanding your business.
>>539435428>Also booze isn't banned, it's just the government is choosing not to buy itCovid vaccination isn't forced, you're just not allowed to leave the country without it.
>>539435481>The fact the the US outsourced so many manual labor jobs made it a world innovator. When you free up more and more of your population to be able to pursue things other then menial mundane bull hit, you create thing like the internet...I know, that's why AI is good right?
>>539427629so Canada uses tariffs to protect your domestic industries.thats the same thing trump is doing.
>>539435450Way to ignore and not address any of my points. Pls tell specific examples and the context of why said tariffs exist? And you do acknowledge that pic related was a complete lie right? As in it is a proven fact that your leader lied to you? How do you feel about that?
>>539435658>Way to ignore and not address any of my points.I agreed.
>>539435595>thats the same thing trump is doing.This is literally the exact opposite of how Canada uses tariffs but ok. It is imposable to argue with cuckservatives. You can't acknowledge reality.
>>539435595the problem is US could completely dominate all of Canada's industries due to your size so we need some protections. You already have a strong foothold in Canada with american companies as it is.
>>539427172I'm not buying Canadian Bacon, you can't make me
>>539435658His leader already told him the answer to that, and that is nuh uh Trump never lies, its all the fake medias and baby transing liberals faults. They would gladly eat a dozen shit sandwiches if they thought even a single liberal would have to smell their breath.
>>539435450Exactly, that’s why communism has an advantage in manufacturing wars when energy is expensive, I don’t like communism at all but essentially the worker is the “cheap energy source”, and labour is the currency. This effect is nonexistent when energy is cheaper than food. It’s essentially a cost vs benefit ratio vs manual labour vs mechanical. >50 guys with shovels you pay in food and paper scrip is cheaper than a backhoe when it costs 500 per day in fuel let alone initial purchase price.
Lol at least canadian whites won't have to starve to death, they can just MAID. Canada belongs to india now.
>>539435450Canada cannot outproduce you on anything. If we could you would suddenly understand our position. We're having a trade war because Trump and Peter Navarro are obsessed with tariffs and nonsensical shit like the "trade deficit" which is this terrible system where you give us pieces of paper for oil and other resources and we reinvest most of that paper into your fucking companies to make more paper.We are able to export food because today our market is not flooded with cheap American products and the industry still exists. We want it to continue to do so.
>>539427172>my peopleyour people are waiting for you back in the slums of india
>>539435911Then why import 1/4th of your population from india? Everything you just typed is not based in any form of reality.
>>539435861>>50 guys with shovels you pay in food and paper scrip is cheaper than a backhoe when it costs 500 per day in fuel let alone initial purchase priceyou realize you could also have 49 of those guys work on something else more productive while the one dude operates the backhoe...right? that did occur to you...right?>>539435911>Canada cannot outproduce you on anythingNot even maple syrup or timber?>We are able to export food because today our market is not flooded with cheap American products and the industry still existsOkay but the point is that you shouldn't be allowed to export it to us unless we can do the same to you, tariff free. If that's unacceptable then your food can go elsewhere, so what's the problem?
>>539427172You could have been part of USA, but nooo you thought you were better and became all touchy about it. Totally blew this historic one time offer. What a dumb country Canada really is.
>FREE TRADE WITH CANADA!?>WHO THE HECK MADE THAT DEAL!? (He did if you're retarded)>NOT ON MY WATCH!Literally what Trump did.
>>539435595see >>539430900It is not the same. What industry of yours was trade with Canada threatening?
>>539435996Funny how you didn't actually address any of his points. You simply say that immigration, somehow, discounts what he said. Lrn to argue.
>>539436048would you like to be part of Norway or Finland?
>>539436011That’s the point retard, if you’ve got 1.4 billion to your 350 million, you can do the same job at way less cost due to no wages was the point you missed. Same job done without the cost. >why didn’t you use mechanical thrashers and have the nogs slaves do other things than pick cotton?
>>539435996Nothing I typed had anything to do with my governments retarded immigration programs. You are an idiot without any point whatsoever. Everyone here is dumber for having read your post and wasted mental energy attempting to find the connection.
>>539436222>you can do the same job at way less cost due to no wages was the point you missedright but you could also do other jobs too, not just the one job. instead of 50 guys shoveling, you invest in the backhoe, have 1 dude do that, and then have the other 49 work on other more important stuff than digging holes. See how I knew you never even considered that? Just low IQ all around it seems.
Actually, our dairy and their industries are completely separate. Because the United States uses hormones and shit while our fairy industry is quite strict f***, talk to text.
>>539436287If you could answer; >why did the plantation owners use blacks to pick cotton instead of mechanical thrashers? You would answer the point you cannot seem to grasp.
>>539436234>>539436192Lol jeets are so fucking mad. The only reason canada is shit is because all the men are pussies and you got lazy and imported 100l million known jeets, and God knows how many more off the books. This shit is so funny, canada is already dead and this thread serves as jeets bragging about it. Personally as a life long maple nigger hater, I think its funny. Canada is litteraly a 3rd world economic zone. Go gettem jam boys.
>>539436011You don't have fucking trees or something?No, nigger, we're not equal. We don't want the same things out of this. We are not a threat to your industries so you don't care about tariffs. That doesn't make it unfair for us, who are in a different position, to want different things as part of the deal.Men and women? Not the same. Canada and the US? Not the same.We leave the tariffs on, you tell us we need to buy more missiles for the Golden Shower Dome or some dumb fucking thing. Like some real art of the deal type shit. We keep our industry, your defense corporation gets an investment. Just because the person across the table from you is not your fucking doppelganger that wants exactly what you want doesn't mean something is wrong.
>>539427629>Canada's right to protect its domestic markets is more important than America's right to protect its own domestic markets>PROTECTIONISM FOR ME, BUT NOT FOR THEE, GOY Canada: land of the ice-jew.
>>539436494>did u guise know that i am obsessed with pajeetsThat's super cool or something. I'm sure.
>>539436593we don't have and particular advantage over your industries. You do over ours.
>>539436011>you shouldn't be allowed to export it to us unless we can do the same to youIn the grand scheme of things, Canada's dairy tariff thresholds are borderline insignificance to the US. They are there to prevent the industry in Canada from being completely destroyed by the US. But to the US dairy industry doesn't need to make slightly more cump change by doing that because it would dramatically harm the overall health of trade between the two countries. Its like stiffing a potential client over a lunch bill. Like ya, you may have saved some bucks by being "fair" over the check, but you just cost your firm a million dollar client...
>>539436593see >>539436683You retard.
Do Americans still support the tariffs? I see a lot of people complaining about the refunds online.
>>539436593see >>539430900
>>539436494No argument.
>>539427172You need to rake your forests so they won't burn as bad, strategically cut trees and contain potential fires. Canada is allowing forest fires to expand by doing absolutely nothing to prevent them in the name of "preserving nature".
>>539435734>>539436119you tariff our products to make them prohibitively expensive in canada so that canadians buy canadian made products. you're protecting your domestic industry while hurting ours.we tariff canadian products and it accomplishes the same thing for our benefit.
>>539436593Na they are just retarded. Keep in mind the only "white" canadians are the same stock of french rapist, hookers, and english reject mystery meat that was expelled from the better colonies. They are on the same mental capacity as the rest of the 3rd world, thats why jeets fit right in. This is not even a new thing, we are just at the end of the delusion because they are getting fucked without all the welfare queen hand outs.
>>539436869>the us is afraid of canadian industrylollmao evenWhich industries are we threatening?
>>539436469>>why did the plantation owners use blacks to pick cotton instead of mechanical thrashers?do you mean "thresher"? they're used for wheat, not cotton. cotton is unsuitable for harvesting in such a manner and required hand picking until the invention of mechanical cotton pickers in the mid 20th century. The cotton gin wasn't for picking but processing the product and removing seeds.>>539436517>You don't have fucking trees or something?Not we do, just not as much as you.>>539436517>That doesn't make it unfair for us, who are in a different position, to want different things as part of the deal.Okay so what are you guys prepared to concede in the negotiations in order to preserve the exception you defend?>your defense corporation gets an investmentnot interested at all>>539436683>They are there to prevent the industry in Canada from being completely destroyed by the US.Why is Canadian dairy super inefficient compared to the US or something. Why can't they compete?
>>539427222Reminder this was Epstein's neighbor and has been caught openly lying about his relationship with him. This guy stands next to Trump like he is a pimp watching his prize goy strut for nigger jews.
>immense harmyou'll be fine, fag
they need the money to support their greatest ally bigot
>>539437105Australians are out greatest ally, but you're not Australian.
>>539437026>stands next to Trump like he is a pimp watching his prize goy strut for nigger jews.In the mind of brown people, this is how they view jews. Its fucking crazy, brown people idolize jews so much hahaha wtf.
>>539436999We don't need to concede anything. We already have a deal. We can do nothing for 10 years if we want. You're the ones with a problem with this deal that you signed. Trump will be dead by then and no one else except Peter Navarro gives a fuck about this tariff shit.It doesn't matter if you aren't interested in that particular example offer. You are a fucking nobody. Politicians with that industry in their state will want that and lobby for it to be included in the deal in exchange for something else, like leaving our quotas in place for example.
>>539427172Do exactly where we failed. Mows the time to forge new alliances and build the infrastructure to manufacture the goods you normally would need to import.
>>539436998>threateningyou keep saying that. you can say it 1000 more times and it'll still be bullshit. no one is "threatening" anything, you just don't want competition of an open market.
>>539427231Yeah, but we don’t mind the pain as long as we think we’re fucking someone else over.
>>539435885Do not be messings with Texas, saar!
>>539437267It's not bullshit. You're either an idiot or a sadistic liar. Either way, things like food security are never on the table. Especially not when dealing with psychos like you.
>>539437211>We don't need to concede anythingOkay then don't and see how that goes. The reality is that we don't like you anymore, just like you've never liked us. We used to joke about Canada in a playful way but it's not playful anymore. It would be good for us to have a total breakdown in relations and become enemies again. Our main goal should be breaking up Canada and annexing Alberta or at least assuring their independence from Ottowa.
>>539436769Why would they complain about getting refunds?
>>539437411This is a jew
>>539437482I denounce the tamuld and YHWH is a false idol worshipped by semite goatfuckers. how does that make you feel shitskin?
you'd think after 10 times of "MEGA TARRIFS COMING!!!!" => "actually nvm tee hee we are besties now" you faggots would learn and start playing the market
Lmfao this gay nigger sold out even more of Canada and the best he can do is give away half the bridge toll to Chadmerica and gets another 50% tariffs. Wrf jeetimmy finna do? Take off the food out of the food bank again? LMAO
>>539437411Most Americans don't think about Canada at all. The only reason you are is because you're mad at me and going off on some deranged rant. Look at you: You can't even spell Ottawa and you're frothing at the mouth wanting to break up this country. People here used to like the US for the most part. It's been trending down since the forever war bullshit and now it's fallen off a cliff. Bunch of fucking psychos.
>>539437610Heres the pic, lol. This dude is so fucking faggy, do you think he said to prince andrew "elbows up" right before taking the pedo load for accepting the position at the bank of England?
>>539437411Hey Canada! A majority of us still believe in you and will be more than happy to do business with you again as soon as this treacherous cult get purged. Hang tight, don’t forget the real patriots that respect your sovereignty and wish we could renew old relationships without being called out by the angry cult of seditious niggers currently out to burn down our 250 year old democracy.
>>539427326Keep the tarrifs on dairy. I don't know what's in your milk and after seeing the abominations you call bodies down south after a vacation. I believe all foods from the US should be banned.
>>539427172tariffs are the last of your worries jeet, you should be focusing on shitting in the toilet and washing your hands, poo
>>539427326CANADA is a small country and relies on aid and good will of larger nations. It can't have or expect reciprocal trade.
>>539437812We will pick up the pieces and the true Canadian based chuds will inherit everything. Canadians are either extremely based or homosexual, no inbetween. Just like how many people were having total mental collapse because some boomers were honking a horn. https://youtu.be/dFSIQIp9EM0?is=NWJLTzkbgRnWJ3aR
>>539427172ya here’s a thought, fuck off back to india
>>539434705>n....n.....no uliteral sociopaths
>>539427172Pay up Jeet. Shouldn't have been so uppity and disrespectful to America.
>>539427629If you tariff our shit, we tariff you back. Simple as that. You don't deserve a special exception because "wahh we're smaller". Free market says pay up. Convince us its worth buying Canadian. I haven't been convinced.
>>539427172Based. You will need to beg to be annexed now.
>>539437407canada isnt going to suddenly run out of food because we can export milk to canada and sell it at competitive prices.
>Americans are getting taxed on imports which is given to the Trump government slush fund to pay for Trumps stuff, and their taxes unrelated that are meant to run the country are now just a free payment to the importersAbsolute peak corruption kek.
>>539432111>Trips of the saddest cope
>>539438415Thanks for kneeling and we full time parking aircraft on the caliphate now. Tf you gonna do about it ranjeet? Cry some more on the internet and rape and stab children? LMAO
>>539437636>Most Americans don't think about Canada at all.They are now with all the smoke. It was nice when you booed out anthem during the hockey game. Woke a lot of Americans up about how we're actually enemies and Canadian State TV news is all about how terrible the USA is and has been for decades. Why be allies with you at all?
>>539433329Not if the point is to hurt the other country
>>539438779Every single maple nigger is going to suffer. You reap what you sow faggy french rape babies.
>>539438267see >>539430900>>539438403It doesn't matter if it sudden or not. Just because the inevitable result won't occur tomorrow doesn't mean it is something that a country will ever do. Milk is just one example of food that we produce and obviously want to continue to produce domestically.>>539438779lmao maybe they'll send us some help to deal with it then. Well, the ones who aren't psychotic like you anyway.lmao your president threatened to economy destroy us, possibly invade us, and eventually annex us. Of course some people booed your country. You're not the victim here. Fucking whiny grievance obsessed drama queen.
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>>53942717250% tarrifs on a certain amount of goods so an effective tarrif rate of 5%. who cares.
>>539430900>threat to our sovereignty.Wish Canada would practice this ideal when it comes to fucking flooding North America with jeets
>>539439329>lmao your president threatened to economy destroy us, possibly invade us, and eventually annex us. Of course some people booed your country. You're not the victim here.I understand. It's good that we hate each other and are open enemies now. We were never friends to begin with and don't like each other at all, so lets drop pretenses and move on to punitive actions.
>>539439172Nobody scared of 500lbs land whales with stage 5 smoker coughs lmao
>>539427172Who would even want to consume american alcohol and dairy, they're both awful. Take milk and cheese alone, they're not even edible
>>539427222Why do smart business men make losers seethe so much? You're just jealous.
>>539439695Then why does the UK have tariffs on american alcohol and dairy?
>>539439495You think it's good that you elected some guy to be an asshole to us so now a bunch of people don't like you because you are a deranged psycho. We have no common ground here. You'll be miserable and die miserable and it will be no one's fault but your own.
>>539439439They're tariffing leaf dairy (Canada doesn't even export dairy).This is their way of strongarming Canada into a trade deal as soon as possible as it's become clear Canada's "strategy" is "wait it out and pray the dems flip the house in November".
>>539439795>You think it's good that you elected some guy to be an asshole to usyes>so now a bunch of people don't like youno honey, you've never liked us and your entire national identity is based around it.>We have no common ground hereexactly, that's the spirit>You'll be miserable and die miserable and it will be no one's fault but your own.Nah I'm good. But let the seethe flow through you dairy farmer.
>>539427172It's what Liberals deserve for their TDS.Trudeau and Clown Carney gave our country away. Now that Canada is middle-eastern/paki/Indian, everything just sucks now. The Liberal gov let them colonize us legally and its irreversible.
>>539427172if it harms your "people" it can only be goodeveryone hates leafcuckians, really
>>539439329why are you so stuck on pretending that if the US could sell milk in canada that canada would no longer be able to produce milk? yes, competition may bring prices down but that's ultimately a win for canadians. milk is $7 a gallon in canada. how do you afford this luxury beverage?
>>539427172can the usa plz do this
The amount of jeet cope is so funny. Tell me canajeets, would you consider youself being out of pratice or are you still on par with the rape skills?
>>539439752I mean if you want an open market, lets roll. The US would instantly die. But you don't want an open market, so stop larping like you do. Trump needs to die he's fucking over the US, americans, and pissing off the rest of the world, all for personal gain and to serve his jewish masters
>>539440484Lmfao you are the most larping brown nigger faggot. You fucking little nerd homo. You could be in a dozen diffrent countries and you would be some smelly jeet nigger faggot no matter what. You are on the same level of delusion as every single tranny. This is why its so fun and easy to rug pull you 3rd worlders. Holy kek. Wtf are you going to do about it? Cry some more and troon out as a white chud? LMAO
>>539440484>I mean if you want an open market, lets roll. The US would instantly die.Okay so why does the UK have tariffs on american alcohol and dairy then?
>>539439857>honeylmao so you are a tranny. No wonder you're so screwed up in the head.>>539440343Play your neoliberal games with someone else. You'll probably need to travel back in time to find someone it will still work on. It would be bring down prices like Wal-Mart does. Then raise them back up like Wal-Mart does after everyone else goes out of business. And then you would threaten us with your control of the market like you do with everything else.We're fine with limited tariff free trade. Just not on everything and not in unlimited quantities. Especially food. Becoming dependent on you psychos for food would be a mistake and no amount of pilpul from you is convincing.
>>539440846Show me your hand instead of schizo ranting>>539440860Because fucking over your farmers is political suicide. Trump doesnt seem to mind though. But if you want to go all in, lets go free market. The US dies. The UK still doesnt buy your dairy. Have you actually tried UK dairy and compared it to american. Based on quality and taste nobody is buying american. If we're going on price, someone will sell it cheaper than you will. So where are you going with this
>>539440897>Becoming dependent on you psychos for food would be a mistake and no amount of pilpul from you is convincing.Why would you trade with psychos at all. You shouldn't have anything to do with them, much less be in a military alliance with them.>>539441021>Because fucking over your farmers is political suicide.How would it fuck over bong farmers? You said no one wants American shit anyway so why tariff it?
>>539427172I don't care about jeets nor jeetnadians.
>>539427172Stop betraying North America?
>>539441077>why don't you just live in paradise and not beside a bunch of psychosI don't know. Why don't you stop being a sadistic reject?
>>539427629it isnt our responsibility to make your domestic products competitive.
>>539441356No. It's our responsibility to protect them. If you want trade deals with us you will accept that Canada and the US are not exactly the same and don't want exactly the same things out of any deal. Like how men and women aren't the same.
>>539441355I didn't ask why you live where you do. Why did you change the subject? Just keep getting more and more angry too.
>>539441460>i get off on imagining everyone is angryYeah. I caught that like 30 posts ago.
>>539441497It is funny desu
>>539441578Yes, because there is something wrong with you.
>>539427386I saw on the news this will coast me 2500 this year. Looks like I got to pay.
>>539441077Do you want a free market or not? If you think that wouldnt be anything but a disaster for the US youre delusional. With regard to dairy, based on quality, taste and animal welfare, I do not believe the majority would buy american milk, yoghurt, cheese etc its vile in the US, I know because I've tried it, I know because I've read the ingredients and production methods. Enter the market at the same price point, it falls on its face, 100%. Significantly undercut British farmers, it leads to a small market reduction and political suicide. If you genuinely believe in a free market, as I said, lets roll. But don't pick and choose. Open up, it will be the death of you, you won't compete, you know you can't compete, you rely on threats. The sooner we get these jewish american tentacles off the world the better.
>>539427172>Thoughts?tariffs don't work don't you listen to anything Carney says elbows up!
>>539441923Bong, the US is 40 times larger than the UK. It's 76 times larger than England.You have zero perspective for any of our industries. Even living here I have only a limited perspective in our dairy industry because it's extremely diverse and varies from state to state and region to region.>I tried Kraft cheese once and hated itYou're an ignoramus.
>>539427938Based knower
>>539442722We know you're not going to beat us on quality. You produce garbage, dog shit, I know you, I've tried it. So americans can have quality from us, we'll have a bit of cheap shit from you in a free market. It will probably even out. You could beat us on price. But to do that, you'll need to die in a free market. Why are you struggling with that realisation. Pssst I wouldnt buy american dairy if it was half price, its dog shit.
>>539427172sadly jeetnadians are 100% brown so it's of no consequence
>>539442915>I've tried itYou've tried dairy from where? The US has multiple levels of dairy industries even within a single state sometimes - we have 50 states. What did you try and from where? Wisconsin alone probably outclasses the UK is anything dairy.The UK is financially dying. I doubt most Bongs can afford to regularly import anything cheap from the US let alone our good stuff. Your industries are dying and your country hasn't been relevant in 80 years.
>>539439709blatant saarposting>>539427222It is morally right to target and assassinate kikes working as a cabal to suck off all the wealth of a country, no matter if they do it "legally". Drown willing cooperators like zognald.Luigi's spirit will rise.
>>539427629"We need to protect our domestic industries but you can't."Canadians deserve to be genocided.
>>539443220You're desperately trying to get into a dick measuring contest, you keep circling back on it. We're not your competitor. We can sell you quality. You can sell garbage at a lower price. But so can the rest of the world, at a lower price. Is that not starting to dawn on you You don't have good stuff to export lmao you rely on anti competition policy and threats. As I said, if you want a free market lets go, see how that works out for you lol Do you think europeans are going to eat your fucking cheese? Get real shaykeele.
>>539427172It affects less than 5% of exports to the U.S., and that’s if he doesn’t chicken out, which is more likely than actually following through. It’s not great, but it’s far from apocalyptic. It's good politics for Canadian politicians to get boomers and NPC's all worked up over Trump at the moment.
>>539443413The UK is known to have ass-tier food. Not even sure what you're on about lmao.Maybe all those Indians and Pakistanis replacing you will do better in that department.
>>539427172>america and canada are both controlled by jews>americans and canadians sufferPure coincidence, surely.
>>539443752You're referring to cuisine, not produce. We produce some of the best in the world. With regard to cuisine I make no apology for eating fish and chips over tacos, apples instead of koolaid pineapple etc. I'm still not going to buy your garbage products. You go off on the most retarded tangents trying to win a debate. There is no debate you schizo. In a free market, the US goes under. It really is as simple as that.
>>539427172>50% tariffs will cause immense harm to my people.You should've accepted the deal and become a 51st state when Trump offered you. You rejected it, now suffer.
As a leaf I can safely say our politicians are a fucking embarrasment and all suffer from slight, to major forms of TDS. Hes all they can think about, they refuse to work with him, and just mock him, so it end sup biting them in the ass. They screech about that pathetic "Elbows Up!!" shit, and how america is threatening muh sovereignty all the time like they think at any second tanks will roll across the border and a wars going to start.Im so fucking sick of the liberal party its unreal. Fuck Pollivereeiere too. Dudes just as much of a crooked fuck as the rest of them. We literally DO NOT have any good party leaders.>b-b-b-but Mad Max Bernier!!He has no fucking chance of ever getting anything done.
>>539427172Whatever, Carney should apply an export tax on aluminium, potash, and oil, but this likely won’t come to pass since Trump will TACO. Where are the cheap Chinese EVs we were promised leafbros? I’m still waiting to replace my old Chevy with a cheap Geely or whatever to commute.
>>539427172>Supreme Court: Hey you can’t unilaterally set tariffs>Trump: HURRRRRRRRRR MOAR TERRIFFSWhy is he like this?
>>539444592The government is retarded but so are you for thinking the mutts want anything besides complete capitulation. There is no "working with" them.
>>539446021>why he like this?Art of the deal. They wont come to the bargaining table with what he wants, and they refuse to work with him. But now that hes said "okay, more tarrifs then", every canadian politician is scrambling to appear tough and wanting to "make a good deal for all canadians". lmao
>>539427172Invade the usa
>>539427222this is how the jew makes money let the goyim deal in the real world
>>539433884Good. Fuck Ontario niggers and Eastern welfare cucks.
>>539427172Who cares. Stop all trade with the USA, sell it to China and the EU at a discount, who gives a shit, make it as bad as possible, blow up all bridges and highways connecting the US and Canada and then set more woodland on fire
>>539434885Based and CHUG-pilled.
lol
>>539435768It's ham. Literally buy ham.
>>539427172They'll just be refunded in 6 months.
>>539427172Good. Half of the Canadian posters on this board are turbo faggots (Indians). I hope it's just them and you're okay, though.
I guess you goyz shoulda voted harder huh?
>>539427172Go to 100% on the tariffs for additional harm. I fucking hate "people".
>>539434034lmao you have no idea just how utterly fucked American farmers would be if the government decided to stop subsidizing row crops. By your logic American farmers should get bent over and spanked because they cant afford to sell their product on a global market with out daddy government's help. Meat and dairy would spike 15-20% at the grocery store just because of the spike in animal feed alone. Put on your thinking cap.
What is the estimated time until 51st state? How long can the Canadian economy last before provinces start to leave the confederation? Can it get done before Trump leaves office?
>>539447339Time traveler here.We rolled a critical miss and Canada joined the EU instead.
>>539443996Good produce is part and parcel with cuisine. The UK food sucks largely because of what you eat and poor quality. The UK has neither anyways.The US outclasses the UK in every measure.
>>539430848The invisible hand fixes everything. If prices are high enough, reshoring some of our lost manufacturing capacity will eventually happen. How else would you bring back our industrial capacities? It has to happen. Depending on our enemies will lead to an even worse catastrophe. Look what’s happening as the result of the Israel-Iran war we got Israeli’s into. Not so great if you are totally dependent on a single point of failure like oil from the gulf. Interdependence caused the Bronze Age collapse.
>>539427222He's also a 9-11 coconspirator
>>539434560The kike vassal state is getting uppity again. Pipe down, little nigger worshiping faggot.
>>539435107>phones and electronics>made in AmericaDid I enter a time machine? That industry was sent to china 20 years ago. Less than 1% of mainstream mobile phones sold in the U.S. are manufactured domestically. Aka 0.
>>539427172Well Canada bros, you know what this means...We must raise our carbon tax!
>>539430848Can you please explain to me why buy sub assemblies in Canada is going to be significantly cheaper in Canada, than buying from America? We're having companies leave Canada to the US because production will be cheaper there because of our retarded restrictions and things like Carbon tax.
