Native Americans never progressed past the stone age.Memory and south Americans forged bronze tools, but they didn't generally use them. North Americans traded with South Americans, that's how they propagated teosete/corn, potatoes, and tomatoes.There is Tin in new egland/Alaska/SouthWest/Bolivia/Andes/Mexico&US, there is Copper all over both continents, they mined for metals on both continents, they have arsenic in insane quantities and all less than the 2500+ miles/4000 Km Europeans had to travel to get surface tin from Britan... So if all cultures are equal and valid why did the most advanced Native American civilization only achieve a Neolithic level of technology? (Stone /unforged copper/rare bronze or meteoric hand tools)> Hard Mode no AI: (you will only get DEI dissembling)> Nightmare Mode: no Euro-chauvinism.> Hell Mode: No racism.
>>539436718Too busy busy smoking the peace pipe.Basically all swarthoid races end game if they didn’t have a superior adjacent civ conquer or trade with them
>>539436718northern native americas = slavs/germanics/Celtssouthern (mesoamericans/incans) = Egyptians, greeks, Mesopotamians
too busy eating each other after they ate all the animals that could have been domesticatedturns out they werent living in harmony with nature at all
>>539436718Too busy fueding with each other over ancestral burial grounds and other shit the Sun or an omen(some animals doing what they do anyway.) convinced them to do.Lost by conquest. Noble savage is absolutely bullshit. It's easy to be a conservationist when YOU are an endangered species.
>Native Americans never progressed past the stone age.All tribalised societies stagnate -- mainly, because they do not remain ensconced long enough for thinkers to emerge; additionally, because they can soon become extinct at the hands of rival tribes. Functional societies must be established for their thinkers to manifest, as well as for the cogitation of those thinkers to become parleyed into something beyond fantasy and philosophy.
>>539436718Squaws are built for BWC
>>539436718They did have some civilizational unlocks that we typically think of as coming in after the stone age, though. They had sprawling empires, trade networks, centralized currencies, complex hierarchical societies, and large infrastructure projects. Honestly it's pretty impressive that they got so far with what little advancements in tech/writing that they had.
>>539436718>Stone ageDoesn't really capture the whole picture. There was advanced goldworking in Mesoamerica and the Andes and early copperworking in both areas as you mentioned. Techological innovation is a result of environment and need. There is no need for a bunch of North American Salish maize farmers to expend a bunch of energy and resources figuring out how to harness bronze when stone tools is enough to work the earth and hunt whales. They also didn't have beasts of burden which probably is a factor I'm too smallbrained to consider
>>539436718>they have arsenic in insane quantitiesthat is a good reason not to, arsenic bleeds into food with tomatoes
>>539436718probably they gave up on the idea of "big cities" when Cahokia failed."Cahokia: Located near modern-day St. Louis, Illinois, this Mississippian culture city reached a peak population of 10,000 to 20,000 residents around 1100–1200 AD, making it larger than many European cities of that era"Didn't have any metals either, though.Could be that a large amount of meat running around to be hunted and the lack of grain and agricultural skills worked together against real nationbuilding. Tribals usually don't manage to invent advanced technics
>>539437782The colonizers used magic that made evil colonizer metal come out of the ground
>>539436718I could have asked the same of whites 2500 years ago. Greece, which was the last to achieve civilization, only got it due to its proximity to the Middle East. Most whites lived in caves at that point. Greece stole everything it knew from the Egyptians and the Persians. You aren't all that impressive yourself, bucko.
>>539437195It's more like a settlement and agriculture thing, claiming and defending a static territory, producing and entrenching a deeper social hierarchy and complex culture, food surplus and storing this, giving the elite some free-time and leading to a rise in manufacturing, labor specialisation and trades, as well as long-distance trade, expansionism, immigration with the consequent adoption of foreign technologies, know-how, domesticated animals and ultimately complex writing.Essentially: for a society to produce experts in diverse fields it must have a secure, robust, enduring framework that encourages specialisation, proliferation and survival instead of everybody being a generalist hunter-gatherer-warrior and the population fluctuating widely, producing no real growth.
>>539436718>Native Americans never polluted the environment with plastics and forever chemicals, nor did they damage the ozone layer with jets and carspigskins (#1 golem) have a problem with this. lmao
>>539438037The scythians from the north played a far larger role in Greece and even in persia and Egypt itself
>>539436718Mongolians are retarded, simple as.
>>539437195This is a language?
>>539438274The assblasted Jeet is talking shit but Scythians were nomadic, not settled. If we're talking about civlisationally the main influences on the Greeks were the Myceneans, early Macedonians/Dorians and Persians ironically
>>539436718Its because they were set back in time due to being isolated from the agricultural revolution. Bronze age requires civilization, civilization requires agricultural surplus, and agricultural surplus requires thousands of years of development from the agricultural revolution. Injuns migrated to the Americas prior to the agricultural revolution and had to develop it on their own. The fact that they succeeded in doing so means it was only a matter of time until they reached the bronze age, and even the iron age. America was essentially just 2 or 3 thousand years behind Eurasia, but it was on the same overall trajectory.This by the way makes it markedly different from Africa and Australia, neither of which invented anything despite having foreign technology transfer available to them.
>>539436718The real reason is>OP is a faggot
>>539436718They did. They had metal tools and agriculture in numerous areas.
>>539438568We made up alphabets for native languages here just to dab on them
>>539436718Well, for some. Achieving a balance with nature. A happy and fulfilling existence is enough.Not to protestants and jews, they be wanting moooar.
>>539436718You must have written language and early. They did not
>>539437335>>539437396It does, they were Neolithic, just like the megalithic builders.
>>539436718>Native Americans>NativeHold up, what about out of africa?
>>539436718>not being content with just fucking and slaying your enemies>buffalo,family and tribe, scalpibg enemies with the bros>let me guess, you need more?>need my Bing Bing wahoo.mp3Why are Europeans like this?
>>539437782**Maize, Potatoes, and Tomatoes blocks your way. **
>>539438037Persians? Do you think they were the first to emerge from the fertile crescent?
>>539436718the answer is very simple: the history of america is fake, there are no indians.do you really believe mexico means anything other than racemixers? like mestizo from the latin root mixticus?do you really believe people would have a stupid maple leaf on their national flag? instead of a Cannabis? all while being called Cannada? face it, people are obsessed with weed and not maples.dont you believe "wethe people" didnt originally say "white people"?youre in a fucking jewish matrix mate.
>>539438908none of those plants were native north-american
>>539436718Aboriginals never invented the wheel, writing systems, agriculture, etc. despite 60,000 years of divergent evolution. But they unknowingly Understood the concept of an aerofoil, something that Europeans didn't learn until much later.
>>539436718>Native Americans never progressed past the stone age.But were they comfy? Why do you need progress if you are comfy?
>>539436718For just a few dollars a day, you can rescue a Native American girl from a reservation
>>539438902>>not being content with just fucking and slaying your enemiesI fucking wish that were true. We'd have a hell of a lot less shitskins to babysit today if we just killed off your ancestors instead of allowing them to live.
>>539436718hello pochahontas i am here to free the eagles
>>539439078Lol wut?https://www.fs.usda.gov/wildflowers/ethnobotany/food/index.shtmlNative food crops:Mesoamerica: corn, beans, squash, cacao, and avocadoSouth America: potatoes, tomatoes, peanut, and pineappleNorth America: sunflower, cranberry, blueberry, and pecan
>>539436718>but they didn't generally use themthey Incas did
>>539436718>Native Americans never progressUmm, Native Americans are Chinese land bridge crossers. Eskimos are Mongolians. This happened not that long ago.
>>539438039So what you are telling me, is they need to settle and build temples and libraries for the Rabbi-class.
>>539436718they spent all their time killing each other instead of innovating better ways of killing each other
>>539439396Like the Norsemen, or the Mongols, very trad.
>>539439288>Native food crops:>Mesoamerica: corn, beans, squash, cacao, and avocado>South America: potatoes, tomatoes, peanut, and pineapple>North America: sunflower, cranberry, blueberry, and pecanYou are not very bright, right?>North America: sunflower, cranberry, blueberry, and pecan>**Maize, Potatoes, and Tomatoes blocks your way. **>not native north-american plants
>>539436718Too busy fucking hot babes. Europe only evolved because our women were hideous.
>>539439396Yep, they tomahawked each other fairly, instead of tomahawking children from 1000 miles away like civilized race.
>>539439288>cacao, and avocadosouth america
>>539439223You retards are the reason they're niggers, jeets and jews on this side of the planet.
>>539439648and then white man came and traded muskets with them.
>>539436718Only societies with horses or oxen had a need for the wheel. The Incas had beasts of burden like alpacas and similar creatures, but they lived in the mountains so once again no point.Man, I need some Pokeahotass poon.
>>539436718they dumb
>>539439839Even a musket doesn't allow for industrial scale slaughter, and doesn't obliviate manly personal combat. We've civilized past anonymous slaughter of machine gun positions to push-button decimation of neighborhoods, to the remote control hunt-and seek dystopia of the Ukrainian fields. Soon to evolve to autonomous hunter-killer drones.Ah progress. You no longer have to be a brave (or brave) to take everything from a man.
>>539439591>>539439670Covered this in OP. The trade network dissemination Teosete the precursor to corn all the way to upper Canada. Corn and foodstuffs had a trade routine from Argentina to Canada in pre-columbian Americahttps://www.americanindianmagazine.org/story/trails-cultures-trade-routes-connected-ancient-central-america
>>539439670The oldest avocado found so far is from Huaca Prieta, while cacao cultivation began in the westernmost part of the Amazon, somewhere between eastern Ecuador and eastern Peru, where wild varieties have their greatest diversity. Throught commerce it quickly expanded to coastal Ecuador (but not really to the rest of Peru), seemingly it was a popular trade item across Ecuador, and from there it hopped northwards to Mesoamerica, where people invented a new way of consuming it, chocolate, a method that never expanded southward back to its place of origin
>>539440124white man give them machine gun too
>>539438037>only got it due to its proximity to the Middle East.it got it because they were indo-europeans surrounded by other indo-europeans. the same people who you're barely even related to and yet keep trying to claim.
>>539440345By that point they barely existed as a people, let alone a nation.
>>539436718According to the book of mormon they had advanced steel work, horse drawn chariots and fought with swords and shields......how can you refute this?
>>539436718They didn't need to, they had ample fish, game, and other easily accessible natural resources. You only need "civilization" to manage scarce resources.
>>539436718>Memory and south Americans forged bronze tools>The emergence of metallurgy in pre-Columbian Mesoamerica occurred relatively late in the region's history, with distinctive works of metal apparent in West Mexico by roughly 800 CE, and perhaps as early as 600 CE.uff
Long shot here but, maybe they didn't want to??? They seemed quite in touch with the world around them and seemingly happy...also, cowboys vs aliens, amirite???
>>539436718Well they weren't subhuman per se because they could learn English. IMHO you could only rescue Native Americans by encouraging even one tribe to make a big ship and fill it with food and just go on a suicide mission (for them) across The Atlantic. They could see how behind they are and spread smallpox on the way back hopefully so they have 500 more years to tank it. Mohicans and Algonquin could work super well with both French and British, its arguable they wouldn't be as genocided if it was just them.NA's its like what if you had native pussy on tap, the best hunting grounds on Earth and cold winters that basically require you to be nomadic, great fishing, lakes, its a giant adult playground and then you have the PvP minigame and its quite an adrenaline rush. You don't need to explore the world man.
>>539436878You're a bigger nigger than the most watermelon lipped porch monkey shine
>>539438788Checked
>>539440825I forgot to mention most people don't know the history of the Chinese it was a miracle that we got there before they did they were only 25 years too late I think it was. If they got there first it would be Chinks slaying Tonto grabbing trillions in gold and conquering California and Mexico.That's some crazy alt history for your asses.
>>539440998*that’s some crazy larp China changed their whole regiment because whites were willing to make cement rock shitholes much sturdier than wood, just because. Much of China is still rural and seems quite heavenly. They did a good job containing the industrial period.
>>539439212how do i find a res girl to rescue do i have to move to the desert?
>>539437450But arsenic and copper makes bronze, something you'd think they would notice if they ever smelted copper, though I guess they may have had ample enough native copper to avoid smelting.
>>539441755Only in the great lakes region.
I love injun pussy
>>539436718I believe the Mississippians had something like a city made out of wood.I asked a chatbot a few months ago about this. I think they were relatively developed but they lacked draught animals so they couldn't do long distance trade so well.
>>539441817more?
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>>539436718i'm sure there are a million reasons why, but it still blows my mind that certain peoples still didn't figure out the wheel and the general idea that round things can roll, meanwhile the rest of the world is so far beyond basic things like the wheel and metalworking that they finally got bored and wanted to check out what was on the other side of that giant ass lake to their west just for the hell of it.
>>539442692>that certain peoples still didn't figure out the wheelI don't believe that claim is true. There's things in nature that are round. Not a wheel, but round shaped things that roll down. Like a rock.
>>539442836Post the counterclaim's sources, then. Should be easy enough if true.
>>539436718It's exceedingly obvious to the point that even Thomas Jefferson was on record about it, the original natives were mixed with colonizing Turks from central Asia and Scythians. China had colonized some of the western coasts along with Malay/Java further in the deserts.It's not that they didn't have technology relative to the era, it's that they were reduced to scattered remnants when Europe arrived, probably from both wars internal and conquest from Spain.History in the west is taught by masonic you know whos that want you thinking naval expedition was something so Roman dominant that a continent was founded by accident.
>>539443033The counterclaim is America was nigger free until whites showed up.
>>539442836but why the divide? How come two allegedly identical groups of people diverged so much? How come one figured out how to harness that motion and another did not, despite arguably having even more resources at their disposal?
>>539443033I believe the claim is false. A rewrite or erasure of evidence, to make some sensational claim.
>>539443124That's the claim. And it sounds like total BS. You're free to believe it though.
>>539437195>>539438039The idea has been Leventines suffered a lot of natural crisis from low rain to infertile land, which made them thinkers and invaders meanwhile my tribal community still hasn't developed own script. A token script was given to them by British led reformation which they have adopted but it is really not theirs.
>>539436718No one can give me a real reason why northern Europeans never progressed past the stone age pre Roman contact.
>>539443323>claimWhat claim did I make? I simply asked a question.And if I'm making the claim you say I am, then where's the wheels?
>>539442548Cahokia looked like an emerging Mesoamerican city. Only the mounds are left but I believe some trade goods from Mexico have been found there. It is thought to have collapsed during the Little Ice Age; whatever happened there must have been bad enough to create an oral history when the European first saw it the local Indians told them something terrible had happened there. There was evidence of human sacrifice and the walls being burned.
>>539443480“Cities” are always doomed to fail. To prevent its reformation is a holy act. An act of mercy. From higher beings, to abandon.
>>539437011I was at a museum today. All museums in Canada are absolutely cucked to natives and spend inordinate amounts of time and money paying white grad students to build up tribute exhibits to how wonderful it was that these people lived on glorified camping adventures for millennia.Today’s contrast for you was a birchbark canoe- lovely in its own way- but of course there’s all this text around it about how the people lived as one with nature and saw it as something that was a part of themselves and not distinct and blah blah blahAnd then you walk ten feet over and there is this fantastic late 1800s wooden boat and it’s just gorgeous and I want to know how that didn’t require “being own with nature” as my ancestors spent thousands of years perfecting wood bending and varnish and hydrodynamics and understanding wind and wave and weather in every way you possibly can. Any time something good is said about my people, it is never said in the form of “White people did X”, it’s always just some atomized individual who did a thing. And then if you complain about that well, here it is, your privilege, everything is just assumed to be white culture right??? Sick of it. I want one exhibit that talks about the amazing things we did without falling back on telling me I’m on “unceded” land that a bunch of alcoholic casino owners should really have instead
>>539440409>it got it because they were indo-europeans surrounded by other indo-europeansNorthern European are also indo european and developed nothing prior to contact with Romans
>>539443033There are incan and mayan toys that we have found that are miniatures of warriors with wheels. They didn't adopt the wheels at scale for transportation as there is no point in the mountains of the andes or the hilly jungle terrain of mexico/central america.
>>539436718No horses. Even their largest empires in South America and Mexico were limited do to having to travel on foot.
>>539436718Premise is incorrect. There was the copper culture of the Great Lakes region. Look into it
>>539443474You claimed that some cultures never invented a wheel. Then asked, why?I say that the claim from you and/or experts, is bullshit. Conquistadores wanted to make the locals seem stupid and arcaic. So they made such claims. Then the lie got repeated. Inb4 why no proof of ancient wheels found. Evidence can get destroyed, Simple as. It's ridiculous to claim that some cultures didn't use wheels. The Sun and the Moon are circles. Silly to believe no one ever made a circle and then saw it move forward.
>>539443370The Romans were warriors, not inventors. They didn't create things, they took them, some from those Northern Europeans. Metallurgy, for example.
>>539443124It’s the population density, climate, and continuous war that shaped the euros into what they are. With a ton more room and a harsher climate there would not have been enough people for anything beyond subsistence living to evolve. I feel like if we had waited another 1000 years to show up in the west we would still have encountered exactly the same kind of peoples as we did: there was never going to be any pressure to advance further because they could not get enough excess calories to increase the birth rate to the point where they had excess labour to push for progress. When every man save the chief has to be working class you cannot develop aristocracy which seems to be a pre-requisite for science, which is fueled by largess.
>>539443651>All museums in Canada are absolutely cucked to natives I mean what the fuck else do you even have to museum? Beaver pelt hunters? Harassing American troops, then cucking along to fight with American troops vs Germans and who else? Golly we all forget the ancient white history of fucking Canada. Congrats on inventing ape-hoop and walkie-talkies, big whoop.
>>539443474>>539443735>>539443675Here is a link to an example of one the toys with wheels. They clearly had the tech they just didn't have a use for it beyond small scale things like toyshttps://collections.bowers.org/objects/78486/wheeled-jaguar-figure
>>539437335>>539437396Central and Douth America seemed as advanced as a Stone Age civilization could become. Left to their own devices, the Inca probably would have made significant advances: that area has copper + tin and that’s what is needed for bronze. Plus they already used alpacas and llamas as pack animals.
>>539443826>https://collections.bowers.org/objects/78486/wheeled-jaguar-figureYeah. It's total bullshit that they never thought of making a wheel.
>>539443719There are beasts here which could be put to the plough given enough time and work for domestication. Wonderful as horses are, the cow is more important; the buffalo could have become a cow if they really lived as one with nature to the point where they discovered deliberate domestication, but again, we don’t see it / because the population pressure is too low to evince such innovation.
>>539443818>they could not get enough excess calories to increase the birth rate to the point where they had excess labour to push for progress.You mean they couldn't farm enough slop to create enough wage slaves to build the dystopia?They were never going to achieve true Rabbis at that rate! Merely medicine men!
>>539443824Idk if you’re just here to shit on Canada, if so you’re just a fag, we have plenty of great history worth putting in museums, no point elucidating it to you as you’re probably more interested in eating paste than in scholarly pursuits
>>539436718South America has the Andes and the Amazon making travel, trade, and expanding a civilization difficult.North America was more sparsely populated and even less advanced.
>>539443944I guess. If you think living in a fucking tent in the woods with only leaves to wipe your ass is heavenly you can still go do that somewhere now I bet
>>539443900>if they really lived as one with nature to the point where they discovered animal slaveryI mean if they needed delicious buffalo, there's several million of them wandering by. Building corrals probably seemed stupid.
>>539443826What’s this all about?
>>539444002No, I am ruined with the convenience of a half-dozen toiletry products, plumbing, water bills and all the glory that comes with High Civilization.Like you I would be helpless at that tech level.
>>539444090
>>539443993Actually with advances in LIDAR and clearcutting we know there were massive cities in the Amazon and Tenochtitlan at its peak was larger than Venice iirc>>539444090looks like a man enjoying a fucking leaf to me
>the more isolated people are the slower their technology advancesWhoa
>>539439212>we have Emily Willis in the TeePee
>>539443730Puebloans had mines
Native Americans had copper tools, what are you on about?
>>539443826>>539443891then why didn't they use it? How come after thousands of years, your only evidence of wheels is in toys? This is as fundamental to civilization as fire. why did they never scale it up?
>>539444355 (checked)> in the teepeeI want her on my peepee.
>>539436952The fucking delusion Kill yourself please
>>539444805>>539443675I already told you>fundamental to civilization as firewheeled transportation only grew in prominence in europe after the 17th century and really took over after the industrial revolution and locomotive. before that it was for short distances on prelaid tracks using ox carts and donkeys or other pack animals were preferred mode of transporting goods for your average peasant. of course there is no point telling you this if you are an analphabetic retard who cant fucking read
>>539436718Diseases and shitty weather patterns/droughts they weren't prepared for, which was often times what European explorers heard about their histories from locals. Compare the descriptions of the Indians that Scandinavians ran into in modern day Canada around 1000s that partially halted their expansion into the Americas, with the dense populations observed along the eastern seaboard by Giovanni da Verrazzano in the 1520s, and compare those with the sparse populations the English observed when they landed about a century later in the 1600s. Also, warfare and genocides, the reason political entities like the Iroquois Confederacy, and other tribal confederacies existed, long before Europeans even set foot in the Americas during the Age of Exploration. There's also the mystery of Roman coins being found in the Americas and Indian shit being found in Rome, and writings by Romans about strange people from across the sea who supposedly docked for repairs, that kicked off a theory that at least one of them became somewhat seafaring way, way back.
>>539444805also forgot to mention>only evidence of wheels is in toysmeans nothing. what is left behind/excavated is due to either material it is made out of or location conditions on preservation (eg bogs, desert; whatever). we can make inferrences from what we find but cannot determine what they did or did not have from what we dont
>>539444805blablabla Yes, we get it. Bronze people are retarded. Europeans are Gods. They had no wheels until EuroGods taught them. Sure, why not? If you believe it, and repeat it, it will be true. Go jerk off about it some more.
>>539439212>Tattoos
>>539441817Sexo
>>539436718they stayed isolated from jews for nearly 15 centuries so never became parasites.
>>539444992>mountainsok? What about the plains? Why are you avoiding op's question? And just because your average serf couldn't afford a cart doesn't mean it didn't exist? Wheeled vehicles go back thousands of years, don't be willfully ignorant.>>539445100so your reasoning is they did actually have competent wheels, but there's magically no evidence of it? Despite the fact that everywhere else in the world has had evidence of wheel usage going back thousands and thousands of years, regardless of whatever supposed climate it was in?Disregarding the transportation question, wheels were used long before that for milling and agricultural shit. Surely the great stoneworkers of the americas could have figured that one out instead of manually mashing their maize with rocks?Am I replying to bait? WHy can't you answer the very basic questions?>>539445213op was right, you really can't get a straight answer at all. Where are the wheels, anon?
>>539436718Easy, old world had 5000-6000 year head start on crop domestication which led to civilization and civilization also means larger population which in theory means more collective brain power, are europeans inferior because we didn't invent farming? I dont think so. You can definetly say african genetics/culture is primed towards something more primitive but I'm not so sure about native americans, Tenochtitlan had a large population with stone age technology
>>539444805They used logs to roll things dumbass. Stick it in the ground and it's a wall
>>539442692>they finally got bored and wanted to check out what was on the other side of that giant ass lake to their west just for the hell of it.Europeans set out on the sea to find another route to Asia, because the Ottoman Empire cut off every land and sea route. Literally, the only route of the silk road they didn't have control over was a shitty tertiary route through northern Russia. You couldn't even sail around Africa, into the Indian Ocean, because the Ottoman navy would wreck your shit. The Age of Exploration wasn't a bunch of rayciss wypipo going out to fuck with brown people, it was trying to find a way to keep international trade alive.
>>539445378>Why can't you answer the question?>>539437396>Analphabetic retard can't fucking readmore news at 11>Competent wheelsWhat plains are there in the Andes mountain range golem-kun?>they did actually have competent wheels, but there's magically no evidence of itNo anon my reasoning is that :1. We know they knew how to make wheels from the toys2. We know that wheel usage in settled societies at scale is largely predicated on pack animals, something that Mesoamericans didn't have and that the Incans did. The Incans lived in the Andes MOUNTAIN RANGE.3. That the absence of evidence for something is evidence of absence for something (does that ring a bell?), so the argument that we haven't found traces of wheels isn't proof in and of itself that they didn't know of them or how to use them4. You can't read, are probably obese, and need to stop typing and eating goyslop and go die for Israel
>>539445378>Milling and agricultural shitREQUIRES PACK ANIMALS. WHICH THEY DID NOT HAVE. YOU FUCKING RETARD. I'm not even pretending they were super advanced or some shit but you are comically fucking stupid
>>539445378>op was right, you really can't get a straight answer at all. Where are the wheels, anon?The answer is that they did have wheels. Are you dense? I'm not an archaeologist. Go get on a plane and explore the ancient sites. You got shown wheels that turn. So yes, they existed. Send a letter to the experts and ask them why they claim there were no wheels when there are in fact examples of it. Or not, idgaf either way.
>>539445582Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence for something*
>>539436718If all that progressing civilization got you was being dominated by Jews and replaced by non-whites. Can you really say your system is better than theirs?
>>539436718warm weather and easy hunting man, there were no pressures to make them progress
>>539443079Yeah, Indians crossed the Bering land bridge from Siberia, coming after the smaller population from Europe that crossed the frozen Atlantic (no one likes to accept that the oldest remains found in North America are those of a European, but even some of the North American Indians had old stories of a smaller population different from theirs that once existed when theirs arrived).
>>539436718Progress comes from necessity. If they had enough resources to sustain their lifestyle they didn't need to invent anything new.>no AIYou already lost with that picture.
>>539445582>>539445661holy shit I am not talking about just the andes you retard. why couldn't chief shits-his-pants strap some logs to a buffalo just like m'gumbo nigdu already did a billion years ago? why is this so hard? this is the last (you) you will farm from me until you answer the damn question.
>>539445665>>539445661They should have just rerolled their start until they had horses dumbasses never played civ before
>>539436718God damn I want to make some new metis
>>539436718A geophysical event wiped out the old world, the first nations are the survivors, the old elite raise from their bunkers and wared for controlSource intuition
>>539445661Agriculture began long before the domestication of dedicated pack animals like donkeys, horses, and camels. Agriculture does not require pack animals
>>539445779>had old stories of a smaller population different from theirs that once existed when theirs arrived).The original native americans are fba foundational black americans
>>539436718All natives including the hot sluts like >>539439212 and >>539441817 are criminals. Stay away from them, they're scum.
>>5394458391st post I made in the thread and linked to you already. Don't reply to me again, go be retarded at someone else>There is no need for a bunch of North American Salish maize farmers to expend a bunch of energy and resources figuring out how to harness bronze when stone tools is enough to work the earth and hunt whales. They also didn't have beasts of burden which probably is a factor I'm too smallbrained to consider>>539445915Agriculture doesn't but mills and large scale projects like that do
>>539436718Next time just post the slide thread in Russian and we'll translate it. Saves you having to login to a VPN to waste our time.
>>539445839>strap some logs to a buffaloforgot to mention; noone is domesticating a buffalo you stupid fuck. aren't you american?
>>539438037Kys Abo sandnigger hybrid
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They had no Mediterranean/ large waterways that spanned throughout the continent other than the great lakes which only spanned one colder part of the continent. They also had no domesticated animals other than wolves and they had no skeleton remains or roads left of Roman empires past. They had the wheel but a wheel is useless on the temporary rough paths they trailed. >>539445378>Where are the wheels, anon?rotted away by wood or destroyed/abandoned on the no roads less traveled. The concept wasn't foreign to them, they had shit like fire bows and other spinning devices.
>>539436718the hot ones are so FUCKING hot but they are rare gems indeed. 99.7 percent of American timber niggers are unfuckable.
gigamogged, native. need i say more ? the simpsons
>>539445839They used rivers primarily across modern day Canada and U.S. and, to a lesser extent, smaller foot path routes with many nodes for trade to other tribes, who could continue a trade further down the path. Why invent a wheel to haul shit, when you can haul it by boat through all of the river systems? New France was centered around already-existing Indian trade routes from Canada, all the way to current-day New Orleans.
>>539436718I thing that blow my mind is that the civilizations in the old world that we consider old as fuck and nearly forgotten history, were billions of time more advanced than a lot of more recent historical actors
>>539439186> But they unknowingly Understood the concept of an aerofoil, something that Europeans didn't learn until much later.
>>539445952roo roo! Exactly, brotha! On their way civilizing the world right after they taught those cave dwelling mayo monkeys how to bathe.
>>539446374https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomerang
>>539446422>wikiI want to hear the abo's explanations for how it works.
>>539439186>they unknowingly Understood the concept of an aerofoil, something that Europeans didn't learn until much later.>unknowingly>>539446472>I want to hear the abo's explanations for how it works.>unknowingly>unknowingly>unknowinglyAt this point I'm convinced that commoncore and a solid diet of sloppa and chemicals has ruined the average burgers mind. Fucking esls now speak their language better than them, and they are unable to do the bare minimum of critical thinking. Do me a favour, stop wasting my oxygen and water and fucking neck yourself
>>539446599theres hairless white boomers with white hair, in reservation schools talking to graduating native students using words like "hair genetics" and "beard".
>>539436718The answer is very simple:Their myths taught them to avoid dragons. It's the exact same reason why the overwhelming majority of Negroid cultures were so slow to develop. The cultures that have advanced throughout time all have myths that feature a hero killing a dragon. This is because that culture has decided that the most appropriate action to take against the most dangerous thing in their environment is to destroy (and therefore master) it.
And you think this industrial hell we created where you need to be a slave to continue surviving is better than living in nature carefree without a clock or ID? NIGGER, ID TAKE LIVING FREE ANYDAY OVER THIS URBAN FUCKING HELL OF A MENTAL ILLNESS
>>539446738I assume that this is some kind of point on how natives don't have beards and boomers don't have hair : i.e. that you don't need to have a trait yourself or embody it to explain it. This isn't relevant, we're talking about pre-contact abbos not someone living in the modern day with access to the internet and a modern education system. Join the other retard in necking yourself
>>539436718Amerindians worked copper. The first people in the world to work copper but copper is not a great metal.
>>539445580And to clarify, by "through northern Russia", it ran only on the European side, stopping at the Ural Mountains (so not connected to Asia), and far away from the primary silk road routes that people had been using for centuries by then; it was the equivalent of somehow relying solely on a single, small, out-of-the-way town's two-lane farm road to support the entirety of global trade from Spain, to China.
>>539436718No natural pressures to innovate, invent, or think. The entire NA native population was in the hundreds of thousands, and foodstuffs such as Buffalo and other game were so plentiful there was no need to change. On the macro scale it was a culture stuck in time. Constant warfare & illness also kept the populations on the low side.In most other areas of the world the hunter gatherer lifestyle came to an end due population expansion and dwindling of plentiful easily-obtainable animals to consume. The solution to this was to discover farming so entire populations no longer needed to uproot and move with the food supply. You could stay in one spot and build a village, town, city etc.Natives got lucky when the Russo-America land bridge went underwater again and cut off the rest of humanity. With so little people across such a vast land, the mass herd animals could easily reproduce faster than they were hunted. The natives never had to evolve.It was a whole different story in central/south America where you didn't have plentiful animal foodstuffs roaming around, which is why Aztecs/Incas had cities when the Spanish arrived though they were still at a lower level having discovered agriculture and such at a much later time than Asia/Europe.
>>539443674Troll Pretty sure northern Europeans entered the iron age in the 5th century BC picrel is Celtic ironwork from a pre-Roman grave circa 350 BC. You do do research before posting bullshit, right?
>>539436718Because they are lower IQ, never wanted to achieve anything greater than themselves, and they were constantly fueding with each other over trivial matters. How are you supposed to build something big and great if your tribe gets sacked, raped, and killed by a rival tribe who's only priority is rape your women and take your resources to be used to destory another tribe. The only way for them to build into something greater is to cooperate with one another but this was something they never did and the very idea of cooperation with rival tribes was offensive to them.>>539437011This, if the American Indians truly lived as one with nature they wouldn't have been nomadic tribes yet all of them were. They would travel around use up all available resources/food and then move on to the next area destorying what tribe was in the area in the process. If they truly lived as one with nature then they would have settled in one area yet they didn't. The whole message of pushing Indians as nature lovers is such a lie it's ridiculous and there is a reason they were designated as "red skinned savages".
>>539446940Keep also in mind that for the entirety of pre-contact Americas had no horses, so natives across the Americas had to hunt on foot, which is extremely time consuming and dangerous.
>>539436718They're dumb, simple as. I had a Mexican friend from Texas and one time I told him that he and feather Indians are the same people and he blew a gasket, like ready to fist fight me angry and when he calmed down he said that Mexicans hate feather Indians because they're lazy retards that trash everything and then I said, yeah?
>>539436718They just got a shit spawn. Should've rerolled the map for some tiles that had science yields and obviously skipping ever researching libraries fucked in the long term.
>>539443730Un-forged Iron makes them Neolithic as opposed to paleo or mesolithic. You can read, right?>Neolithic level of technology? (Stone /unforged copper/rare bronze or meteoric hand tools)
>>539436718tropical and high humidity leads to high corrossion>andconstant raids, never settling too long in one place, nomad lifeby the time you set up a smelter, you were ambushedsomething white invaders had to deal with, all the timeif they did not already have these inventionsthey wouldve been raided to death before ever being able to invent them
>>539446845im not making any point. im stating a fact of reality that theres white boomer staff, in reservation schools down talking fresh graduates on their graduation pictures with their other native friends, saying shit like "your race has trouble growing a beard" and then being told "at least im not bald". this is fresh summer graduation this current year. a white haired boomer hairless and old. i saw it on instagram.
>>539443675Mesoamerican wheeled toys reached only as far south as El Salvador. There are no Inca wheeled toys whatsoever, nor any from South America for that matter. People often mix up the Maya with the Incas, and it snowballed from there.
>>539447154>your race has trouble growing a beard>at least im not baldkek you know what I appreciate hearing the bantz>>539447190>no Inca wheeled toysHuh I thought I had seen examples at uni when I was taking classes for my useless degree but it seems you are correct. My bad
>>539443824Brown
>>539446845i get the retard has a point but it's a shit point. abos are obviously backwards retards for fucking up an entire continent, extincting megafauna, etc. and now they're all whiny bitches because someone took what they never bothered to defend. imagine having 60,000 years of destroying a continent with your neanderthal race and never bothering to defend it. I think aliens arrived and gave them an understanding of aerodynamics thinking they'll conquer the world only to discover that they couldn't even make a wheel.
>>539446845>pre-contact abboscompare them to "pre-contact" romans idgaf, one actually had paper for writing shit down because they actually had something worth a piss to write. Only one would be capably of providing the actual physical/mental ability to explain a concept in the first place.
>>539447154There are currently goblino's sitting in trailer parks paid for by the government teaching children about their "native american" culture. They teach animistic beliefs while chainsmoking camels and chugging hennessy.
>>539447326>>539447341No argument here I'm not claiming abbos are secretly ubermensch who had some kind of ancient aliums tier tech and that the ebil colonialists are hiding it à la yakub and the nation of islam I'm only talking about them unknowingly using airfoils
>>539447326Although I will say I find their whole dreamtime religion thing fascinating and there are some interesting things in the oral history they retell regarding when they first came to australia/corroboration with the actual evidence
>>539447436thats great but nobody asked about your feelings on it. these are all your feelings:>goblino's>animistic >beliefs
>>539447577Another american who doesn't know what words mean. Tiresome people and race desuhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animism
>>539436718The winds of fate did not blow them in that direction
>>539447622them being animalistic would mean theyre not appreciative of the roof over their head, which they do by teaching, while under the roof.
>>539447664This has to be bait.>animalistic>animisticdo these words look the same? AAAAAH FUCKING RETARDED FUCKING ANALPHABET ILLITERATE MONGRELOID RACE I HATE AMERICANS I HATE THE ANTICHRIST I HATE THE UN KILL YOURSELF
>>539447723i love all those things!
>>539440998>>539441308China was always the world hegemon because they had the population. But their scientific advancements were very poor per capita. White man only came to run the world about 500 years ago when they finally threw off the Muslim yoke. Remember the pace of technological advancement these past 500 years has been rapidly advanced because the white man was left alone. China had longer periods of domination and peace and never invented a sliver of what the white man did. Hell Japan was technologically stagnant for 250 years until commodore Perry opened up the country.
>>539443885>>539436718The Mississippi period sites such as Cahokia was more advanced than the tribe nations that came after. When Europeans were beginning to colonize North America the natives were already in decline. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississippian_period_(archaeology)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cahokia
>>539447514agreed. they are known foragers (so they're probably aware of which shrooms to pick to get high), they are very hardy people (some cultural law is based af. If you rape someone, you don't go to jail - you get a spear chucked in your leg and that's it. Everyone agrees that justice is dealt and people move on. But if you don't show up for spear legging, then it goes to your next of kin lmao)the ones in the wild while being completely rock headed and ugly are still quite funny in a 'look at that monkey at the zoo' kind of way. Here watch this documentary. Fascinating.youtu.be/X8WfjkgqK9A
>>539437396South American gold work is notoriously crude.Aztec gold work from 500 years ago is inferior to 2000+ year old Eurasian gold work.
>>539447018>The only way for them to build into something greater is to cooperate with one another but this was something they never did and the very idea of cooperation with rival tribes was offensive to them.> If they truly lived as one with nature then they would have settled in one area yet they didn't.Some did, if you consider some of the north eastern tribes with long houses and agriculture, and tribal confederacies amongst other tribes they shared a language/similar language with (before Europeans arrived), or the cliff house structures carved into the side of mountains by Pueblo Indians out west. The problem on all sides are people saying they were all retard savages who were at the same levels of advancement or all peaceful good bois who dindu nuffin, when even the ones just across current day U.S. alone were vastly different from each other. This leads to people feeling sorry for tribes like the Comanche, who were vicious cunts that were building their own empire and colonies into Mexico that were capable of terrorizing and raiding the Spanish and later Mexican governments, or people thinking the all of the north eastern tribed were just the same as them, when they were primarily chill and just traded shit (partially why the French considered them civilized, due to their organizations in a government capable of supporting a confederacy, and in having maintained trade networks across the continent).
>>539436718>No one can give me a real reason Native Americans never progressed past the stone age.The american bison was just roaming around in large numbers being food, clothes, shelter for groups with skill to hunt themonce you have a game plan set you would just need to repeat it and work on thatbefore we started our superior european early industrial hunting there were supposedly around 30-60millionthere were less than 1k by 1900going by the time scale of the original questionthere was no reason for them to go further technologicallysociety was simple>make pointy stick>hang out with the boys>kill some bison once a month>process the materials>make some babiesand then firewater got introduced and>only have to hunt once a month so we can drink the rest of the month>forget to hunt on hunting day>suddenly all the bison are gone
>>539438037Greeks went to the kaserites islands for tin they give directions to the place in Ulysses.5days east to reach the pillars of Hercules and 9days north to the isle.Follow the directions given on a map where do you end up ? Cornwall one of Earth's oldest tin mines.It defies all logic and historical fact to claim the British isles were behind.
>>539447953>shrooms to get high>spear leggingLmao based, thanks for the documentary reccomendation I'll check it out>>539447967For peoples without access to proper forges or metal tools I'd say it's well made enough to be qualified as 'advanced'
>>539436718ill give you a reason right nownative Americans evolved through selective pressure to be retardedthis selective pressure was white peoplein Siberia thousands of years ago the ancestors of native Americans and aryans were the same race, the dumber ones, the lower caste ones, the more asiadic ones, the ones who couldn't ride horses, etc etc etc got pushed further east and eventually crossed a land bridge while following preythey had already been selectively bred by aryan culture to be the dumbest of the dumb over generations this compounded until they where incapable of living in anything resembling modern society
>>539447472Shall we talk about every caveman unknowingly using catapults?>>539447577>feelingsno they're "facts of reality". Look how I can describe specific races doing retarded things, really interesting.
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>>539448423you can describe all those things to a therapist and get paid for it.
>>539446422You proved him right that wiki page says so.Europe had boomerangs since time immemorial.
>>539448423Why would we? As a reminder this whole retarded discussion started when of your room temperature iq brethren was doubting something he could have spent 20s looking up >>539446374
>>539448496Admittedly I thought they were an abbo invention I was surprised to see the Egyptian one but tbf I thought the point of contention was that abbos were using airfoils unknowingly, not that they were the first to do it
>>539446949The gladius comes from celt design this whole thread is full of retards and shills.
>>539436718Is this the intellect of pol? This is what you champion?North and South Americans were the youngest civilizations as they migrated from Asia through Alaska on down. The peoples who settled along the way had the stability to develop.
>>539448578The only truely aboriginal invention came after contact,the reciprocal motion used by all modern sheep sheers was invented by a full blood aboriginal man named David unaipon.He also tried to made a boomerang helicopter no joke.
>>539443960Canada is a useless fucking country which is not based and never was. Canada let brown folk like me and yellow folk in who bought and sold and turned the country into an economic zone. Cucknada is fucking STUPID. America is based. America has good sovlful history. Incredible country. Also UK, but sadly UK letting in muslim rats. Modern UK is cucked. Older UK is based. As an Indian, I will respect you if you elect a politician in Canada who kicks out leech immigrants like me. But sadly you won't. That's why I'm going to take myself out of Canada myself, and go to US or someplace in Europe in search of better job opportunities as soon as I get my citizenship. Where muslim rats and other violent blacks, browns are less. Look at GTA lol.>>539436878>>539436952>>539437011>>539437069
>>539437011B-but muh noble savage.
>>539436718If I racemix with these specimens, will that elevate them?
>>539448734Norte Chico and Valdivia civilizations date back to the same time as the Messipetamian timeframe. ~4000-3000 BC. Messipetamia is belived to be the first old world civilization, and they were firmly bronze-age. American civilization never progressed past cold-worked copper a firmly Neolithic trait.
>>539441817stretch marks
>>539437396How dare you bring actual fair anthropology into our racist circlejerk thread.
>>539437195>>539438039Cityoids are subhuman
>>539436718Id rather live in the stone age than this hellscape
every major ciivilization was either coastal or aongside a major river. Native Americans weree isolated, while the other civilizations had access to different specializations, eventually coalescing into shared knowledge.The Egyptians, the Sumerians, the Chinese, the Greeks, the Romans, they were all connectred one way or another.
>>539438568It's interesting as a student of multiple languages, and someone who used to process passport applications, so I've got a storied history of being able to determine Americanized ethnic names, but when you drive through a native-tribe-owned area expect to say "what the fuck is that?" multiple times. There are very strange syllabaries.
when life is perfect you dont need to advance. what are you even advancing towards? do you even know? did you ever to think to ask?
>>539445902the jews would do that to incite their waheslave jew worshippers to spread jewish influence and further enslave more people.el dorado and prestor john, to name a few.christcucks have an especially hard time adapting to past events because the jew worship constantly factory resets them to npc settings, so jews just use the same playbook over and over and over. reading christcuck history becomes incredibly frustrating. because you have to wonder how the fuck they kept falling for it. its because theyre soulless npcs. people who have been enticed to gamble their eternal souls because their environment demanded it of them.
>>539437396>>539449945Cold copper-working is NeoLithic, Megalithic Cities are also Neolithic, as is trading in shell/precious stone currencies. You have to have set denominations for it to be Bronze-age technology... Native americams used trinkets & Wampum(shells) & agricultural goods. The question is, why didn't they achieve bronze-age development or higher precolumbian? None of the stated examples are post Neolithic.
>>539450153Are you saying the Americas don't have coasts? Or are you saying the Mississippi, Potomac, Deleware, saint Laurance, Colorado, and Amazon aren't rivers?
>>539436718Didn't they find massive cities with lidar?
>>539445902sorry didnt even read your comment. it was actually just good old fashioned jewish biological warfare. the people in the old world had to live alongside jews who ate feces, not to mention the pajeets and niggers who fucked monkeys. the biological warfare over the old world happened for thousands of years, the bible even describes instances of sargon II's army encountering jews and just up and dropping dead, likely from all the uniquely jewish diseases they had. most people dont know this but palestine was the region's dumping grounds for diseased peoples, lepers and the like. so the people who survived the old world were only the most biologically resilient people, immune systems in the S-tierwhereas the people in the new world didnt have people swimming in rivers of feces or fucking monkeys, so like with Sargon II, when jews encountered some completely trivialized common cold, which is really just an insane supervirus to normal people in normal circumstances but a triviality to the jewish side of the world, completely wiped them out. on top of that you had christcucks with smallpox blankets and other intentional forms of biological warfare. these are the same people whose granny would die of plague that jews gave them, and then go to the next town over and catapult her body over the walls.jews got this one fungus which leaps from humans to the environment and would negrofy your hair and turn it white like jesus' in revelation. got so bad they had to condemn entire buildings and just destroy the whole building and rebuild it from scratch
>>539451158The Native American genome all came from one source, except maybe some Polynesian addition at some point. Meanwhile, some Chinese living in a vastly different landscape has a lot to offer someone living in Greece or even India, different genes, but still within reach by trade. You really think genetic distance doesn't matter?
>>539436718(1) They only had maize varieties as far as domesticated crops go. Meanwhile, we had a bunch of different kinds of grains. Perhaps if they got their hands on the potato.(2) They only had horse when it comes to domesticated animals. We had so much more and since we had animals turn useless grass into milk and meat, we had that extra buffer when there were poor harvests.(3) Ergo, while they did produce maize-based empires, they did not survive cold weather shifts and died. Thus, they did not have lasting non-nomadic countries that could really start to tinker with metals.
There isn’t a non-white country on earth that progressed technologically beyond medieval methods. All the ones that are more robust now are robust due to Western colonialism or agreements.
>>539449758Sharp eye
>>539439007you can't just drop some schizo posting and not elaborate on it
>>539437782>diversity is our strength
>>539451452it's based and not in a good way
>>539451244Giant cities are Neolithic.
>>539436718because they're niggers. This planet is nigger planet with a minority white pop. thats how god wanted it, nigger paradise for nigger brains
>>539447967>South American gold work is notoriously crude.Here are some examples from the Moche.Many Moche copper artifacts originally had an extremely thin layer of gold, often just 1-2 micrometers thick, applied using electrochemical replacement plating. Only a few South American cultures from Peru are known to have used this technique. Hell, even in the Old World, only a handful of cultures have disputed artifacts that may have been made using the same method.
They had significantly less time plus potatoes are not as good as a carb as rise, they didn't have horses. You have to think before making retarded claims also being an American and talking shit about the people that were here before you guys came is tacky have some respect.
>>539448994Quiet down benchod you a blight on humanity
>>539436718>south Americans forged bronze toolsNo they didn't. The only thing they had was organization due to the systematic cannibalism they engaged in. They did it at the top of dirt mounds. The stones weren't added on the outside of the mounds until after Spanish arrival. Look up the date of Spanish arrival and the date range the Central American pyramids were said to be made. WHOOPS.They had no metal tools, and could not carve stone. They sliced each other open with sharpened obsidian glass, and ate each other, because they were too dumb to figure out animal domestication.
The largest drawback was they never really progressed past tribalism and a hunter gatherer society. Agriculture allows for a population to expand and leads to specialized labour. This in turn will require a more complex form of government to manage an expanding population and a way or organizing labour.
>>539436718the initial driving force to progress past the stone age would be to develop sharper tools so you could shave your women's pussies. Injun broads don't have pubic hair.
>>539452725>They had significantly less timeWhat are you talking about? They had as much time as every other race of people had.>they didn't have horsesOthers who did not have horses at least progressed to the iron age.>talking shit about the people that were here before you guys came is tacky have some respectThis is what it always really comes down to. People just don't like to hear the truth about the subject, it's "tacky" to discuss it.
why does everyone say that wheels are useless without muh roads? there's tons of stuff you can do with wheels that don't involve rolling around on them. if you put a rope around a wheel it becomes a pulley. if you put teeth on one it becomes a gear. if you add a handle it becomes a crank. there are tons of useful tools like cranes and water pumps that all have wheels in them.
>>539453160Then what the fuck is this?
>>539436718Maybe not progressing past the stone age is the key to everything.
>>539453864even stone age people can carve stone, obviously everyone knows that. I don't think that guy cares about the truth
>>539441755Arsenic impurities in copper occur naturally. At first, that was probably how they accidentally obtained arsenical copper over here (more precisely arsenical bronze), among ancient cultures such as the Moche >>539452596 and other northern Peruvian societies, extending beyond Peru to the north, that shared the North Andean metallurgical tradition. That metallurgical tradition included arsenical bronze, tumbaga, and many other innovations, and later spread from the North Andes to Mesoamerica.However, by the Late Intermediate Period, the Moche's descendants, such as the Sican, were definitely INTENTIONALLY adding arsenic to produce arsenical bronze. Archaeological evidence shows they deliberately added arsenic-bearing minerals during smelting.
>>539436718>Native Americans never progressed past the stone age.Well, to advance passed the stone-age, you first need civilization. Civilization requires agriculture. Agriculture requires a suitable crop. Since early agriculture had much lower yields than modern agriculture(look up what corn originally looked like), it was only viable in warm highly fertile areas with reliable water sources.To advance to the Bronze Age you need a relatively local source of Copper and Tin, and/or the means to trade long distances, especially navigable rivers, calm seas, and other waterways. The Mediterranean had all of the necessary ingredients. The Aztecs and Mayans only had some of the necessary ingredients. North American Natives basically had none of the necessary ingredients.The Mediterranean Sea was pretty much ideal for the development of civilization as we know it.The main criticism of Native-Americans is that they killed all their horses. That effectively slowed their development by thousands of years.
>>539436718>we NEED to keep advancing the heckin science because umm>line NEEDS to go up
>>539454023Then, roughly from the beginning of the southern half of Peru southward, another major tradition emerged: the South Andean metallurgical tradition. They weren't fans of northern developments like tumbaga, which spread much farther north from its point of origin than it ever did to the south.However, this southern tradition, the one the Incas inherited before building their empire, was heavily focused on tin-copper alloys, developing true tin bronze.They also developed more advanced furnaces. In fact, Andean reverberatory furnaces are believed to be the earliest in the world, this technology would have spread from the Andes to the Old World during the colonial period.
>>539436718interesting picture they could not make tool & weapon. but they made high heels for their womenwrong priorities is the reason why they lost
>>539436718basically native americans are lazy. I don't even mean this in a negative way, its just a racial and cultural thing about them. They like to relax and take it easy for the most part. They are also very prone to addiction for this reason
>>539451158>Are you saying the Americas don't have coasts? Or are you saying the Mississippi, Potomac, Deleware, saint Laurance, Colorado, and Amazon aren't rivers?The southern coast is mostly swamp. Look at the Nile River delta and compare it to the Mississippi. Flooding is also a major problem on the Mississippi.The United States has some of the best waterways and coastline in the world, but there isn't anywhere in the United States that had the necessary conditions for civilization to begin in the first place. Moreover, copper mines are too far from the coast, and we have basically no tin, plus no horses.Regardless, civilization took thousands of years to develop even in those areas with ideal conditions. IQ had nothing to do with it. If you look at Europe, the areas with the highest IQ were generally the last to have civilization.
>>539436718osage Indians on average were 6'9 when brits and Spanish came to americathe healthiest, highest longevity people on the planethunting a few days a year and then drying the meat and making tons of fur and leather clothing then literally just having sex and relaxing the rest of the yearmeanwhile you need to import jeets to deliver you chicken tendies so you can get neetbux paid by jeet workers so you can rot to death without ever procreating
>>539436718The jewish religion caused you to become like this. Now decide for yourself, is this a good thing or a bad ting.
>>539436878White civs had optimal conditions of limited landmass, climate, natural resources and vegetation to evolve via tech, especially metalurgy. Mining, smelters, forges etc. are all basics to produce stuff like cogwheels or a clean fully leveled base plate (which is foundational for constructing machinery). Brownoid civs likely didnt do all the metalurgy & metal stuff like white one‘s did.
>>539437069>Too busy fueding with each otherThis. Progress in relity needs more cooperation, than competition.The Chinese founding myth says that they started as alone villages but some smart ones went from one to another and asked them for help to dig water canal so they will all eat together. And they agreed.The whole empires conquering other tribes was also kind of cooperation under one ruler. The conquered tribes agreed to coperate under someone stronger due to fear of life.But when you have conquest where conquered people do not want to cooperate - you will have zero progress as in North America or in Judea where Jews were constantly rebelling or in Africa or muslim countries or under jeets where every single religious sect fought another even after being conquered.
>>539453160>systematic cannibalismI mean, many South American societies practiced cannibalism. Even in the very ancient Central Andes, this culture was the last one to do so >>539453864. They are called the Chavin, once believed to be the first civilization in South America (Caral took that spot). Even among the Chavin however, the evidence consists of some gnawed human bones found at Chavin de Huantar, so it seems to have been limited to certain religious events.There's no such evidence for the cultures that followed the Chavin, so over here it would have ended around that period, except in the Amazon.But then, a few thousand years later, and then some, the Inca Empire was banning cannibalism among its Amazonian and peripheral subjects.
>>539445988They've also been turned out by every male relative in their family.
>>539455532Btw, barbarians were called names such as runa micoq or "man-eaters"Quite crazy that at its maximum extent the borders of the Inca Empire were surrounded by cannibals on every side. However, the Inca Empire probably encompassed much of South America's population at the time, if not most of it, so most South Americans wouldn't have engaged in cannibalism.
>>539455532all cultures around the world practise cannibalismonly lower class people don'tthe elite always practises cannibalism
>>539436718Nice moccasins ladies.
>>539448423Everybody gangsta till human sharpens stick
>>539438037whitey ruled Egypt 3,300 years ago i btfo you
>>539436718Even in Europe Stone Age civilizations had rudimentary knowledge of metallurgy before the Bronze Age began. It's not like one day every person woke up knowing how to cast bronze and threw away stone tools, you know.Native Americans were slowly learning mettalurgy, too. Though they did have some very impressive irrigation systems and were already studying astronomy.Given a few more thousand years they would've likely arrived to a similar position the Eurasians were in.
>>539436718What's even more interesting is that ONLY EURASIAN PEOPLES EVER DEVELOPED POST-STONE AGE TECHNOLOGY.Think about that. Anyone outside of Eurasia had to contact Eurasian civilization to get post-stone age tech. Even more specifically, south and southeast asian cultures also never developed post-stone age tech on their own.
>>539436718.Turns out if your civilization always have a combination of extreme weather, and seasons, you would have not any time to think.
>>539456837Yes its really telling and tends to indicate evolutionary differences.Same thing here whites and Asians here do the vast majority of anything useful most browns here are essentially parasites.
