I went to a private yacht club and everybody looked lean and slim not jacked and ripped. Like instead of lifting weights, they played tennis, rode a bike, or sailed.
"Too much muscle" is fag speak for >I eat like a bitch
Yes
It is an indication of class. Poorer people live in a world where being strong/heavily muscled is more necessary. Being a fag and playing tennis won't suit you if you live around niggers and other monsters.
>>539444525Perhaps but it’s also why rich fags always get murked by poor fags in all sports. Rich kids = sissy faggots
>>539444525Poorer people have guns.
>>539443943Muscles are a sign of physical labour, which is common and low class and sure sign of low intelligence.
>>539444525Muscle has nothing to do with fighting ability, and I'm a gymcel. It's more important to just avoid niggers and spics entirely, or to be as heavy as you can be if you're gonna have to fight. Or just carry weapons.
Yeah because upper class people think hard work is for plebs.If they need something hard done, they pay some pleb to do it for them. That's what servants are for. If they need protection, they buy it.Busting your ass to build muscle is a plebeian virtue. You're working to become someone's reliable servant, usually some hoe's or your country's. Because you will very rarely run into situations when you must solve things through brute force.
>>539443943>too much muscleonly happens if you are a roid-tard
>>539443943Some of those guys probably have sleeper builds but for the most part, yes, being a gymcel or roidtranny is seen as vulgar and brutish. Comical even.
Poorer people tend to be fat if anything. At least in the west.
Yep
>>539443943>indication of being lower classwho gives a fuck
>>539445030Go back to India jeet
>>539444620The wealthy have paid security with guns and training.
>>539443943a toned/athletic "swimmer" build is the ideal across classes, being a swole gymrat is usually the domain of "I'm middle class and desperate to escape my wife"
>>539443943Soft rich merchant twinks
>>539443943Rich people are pretty strong physically, they just don't show it.
>>539445061Yet nobody wants to kill them. And they still can't build muscle even if they wanted to, despite all their money. Basic part of the human experience and all they have to show for it is swinging a racket or club.
>>539445086i wish i was shorter and smaller im just a 6'2 250 wide shouldered bushy hair brown man
>>539444525In fact playing tennis and doing other sports usually related to wealthy people is common amongst heirs but not amongst those who build the wealth. Allow me to explain, building wealth is a tough thing to do, most people thinks it's all about luck but it isn't, it's stressfull, hard and more harmful to your mind than most things out there. That's why you usually see those who build fortunes with worse physics mostly cause high intellectual work is much more tiring than physical labor that because your brain consumes much more energy than your body, add the exhaustion caused by many hours of intellectual work daily and a bad sleep schedule and that person ain't gonna have time or energy to exercise.Their kids have it though.
>>539444933You have fat and weak people on both sides. Strong men often become wealthy. Fatties are mostly born into it. Truth is, money doesn't matter much. Richfags get a rush from driving a boat with other richfags. Strong people get a rush from driving a dick through their women.
>>539443943Definitively; no. Athletes make millions of dollars (making them relatively wealthy) to kick and throw balls around or give each other brain damage, and they tend to be muscular through rigorous training. Same with those who have expendable income/inheritance, who funnel their time and energy into striving for peak physical condition (daily strenuous exercise, expensive cuisine and meal plans, etc.) Health and fitness influencers have the tendency to be upper class too. Even frauding mechanisms like tren, bull/shark testosterone, peptides, and roids tend to be high-dollar. So definitely not in all cases. Not having money doesn't mean you can't strive to be healthier, though.>>539444933This surely has to do with cheap foods being terrible for you, the wide scale availability of cheap carbs and sugary snacks, poorer people in some instances being neglectful of their children, and miseducation as it applies to basic nutrition. These are all problems that do indeed plague the poor, especially in the US.
>>539445459damn, thats a lot of wordstoo bad I ain't readin em
>>539445086a slob with an 8" dick mogs everything, faggotron
>>539445622Rich sports are for rich kidsRich parents are too tired to exerciseNote: I am talking about being real rich. Over 10 billion which in my perception is a fair amount for you to get a super yacht.
>>539445732What about having verified aristocratic descent. Is that enough to get into the boat.
>>539444101It's not stuffing their mouths full of goyslop from shartmart.You'd have to overeat to an uncomfortable point to gain weight with real food.
>>539445591 big muscular men are culturally working class/ lower class / middle class in the usa
>>539445804Well, if you are active part of them certainly you get the heir right to. I'm just using a simple metric of never buying anything over 10% of your wealth. With 10 billion you might be able to get something up to 1 billion and pay for it easily, with 500 million you shouldn't go over 50 million and that doesn't put you in your own yacht at monaco bay. You might a little boat but meh who wants a little boat
>>539445591This guy is talking about old money culture. Athletes and influencers aren't really a part of that world.
>>539445320Nigher, your sperm is worth a kilo of weight in gold to any hag (25+ women who can't get a date and will need a fertility clinic to reproduce) alive on Earth.
>>539443943>wealthy people look healthierAmazing observation, OP.
>>539445833I have to drink pounds of sugar to maintain my muscle. Discomfort is required. Richfags are bitches.
>>539445467Bodybuilders are quite often homos
>>539445086swimmer girls rock
>>539449482Point is, if richfags weren't bitches, they'd have muscle. They would spend money on a pill if it existed. They were born into money. Meanwhile the reverse is possible; If someone had the determination to gain muscle, they could pull off asset flipping to become rich.
>>539444525Or if you have to pack gyproc for a living, or hump rebar up a narrow concrete staircase.
>>539445591Athletes are the equivalent of movie stars.They're the lowest rung in the ladder of the wealthy.And even then the pedigree only applies to non-American sports like Golf, Tennis, and F1, maybe skiing, polo some other prestige disciplines.Any athlete in any other discipline is probably not counted among the upper class, even if they're really good at it.
>>539444620>Poorer people have guns.You can't always resort to a gun. Sometimes you just have to scuffle.
>>539444101Eating like a bitch means youd have less muscle you dumb nigger
>>539444747Based knower
No!This thread is full of poor people.I went to Private school I played rugby union,swam and boxed.
>>539443943>Is having too much muscle an indication of being lower class?Not at all, quite the oppositeBut bodybuilders are all mentally ill they have body dysmorphia
>>539449718That's why the phrase is in quotes, genius.
>>539443943They aren't eating the hormone pumped meat from the local kroger
>>539443943The rich rarely exert themselves so they don't develop muscle.
>>539449715Not really. Someone will go to jail. Sometimes you have to end someone's life to avoid prison.
>>539443943> looked lean and slimbecause thats how you live the longest
>>539445459>intellectual work is much more tiring than physical labor Found the sissy weaklingNever did any labor or youd know better faggot
Yes. Gym muscles are stupid and useless. If you can’t understand that, you are probably covered in bad tattoos and lower class.Sorry. But thats the truth.
>>539445591>Definitively; no. Athletes make millions of dollars“Athletes” are not upper class you pseud untermensch inbred dumbfuck who can’t even use his forced semi-colons correctly, I know it seems like a much higher status than your daddy Dirt Chungus’s trailer park but there is another world of difference between a millionaire black sportsballer and actually upper class, generational wealth. Most of these athletes even quickly go broke, like OBJ, not just because they’re le dumb niggers but because the amount that they were making wasn’t actually as much as it seems like to you to begin with.
>>539443943too much is low iq, it reduces life span, sucks up time when it would be better to improve elsewhere, mma/weapons, money, socializing, aesthetics. Strength is desired only to a point and gym rats don't get it, so yes, it's low iq.
>>539444724>be as heavy as you can be if you're gonna have to fightI grew up in a tough neighborhood in Brooklyn 70's-80's and that's exactly what we did. The heavier you were (not obese thou) the better your fighting. You couldn't be a spaz though .. Kids these days don't believe it.
>>539449875>stupidYou get smarter.>uselessYou get sexier.>tattoosYou'd become too smart and sexy to get them.All of your arguments are silly
>>539449864You need muscle to become lean. Your mass is either muscle or fat. Or you're anorexic.
>>539444525being a jacked 300lb muscle head also won't suit you very well when a gang of 10 young niggers surround you with 3d printed glocks and steal all your shit and maybe even kill you
>>539444620so do rich people, retard
>>539445086Imagine the smell from that point of view.
>>539449651Yes, but they will still be lower class. The money will be wasted on showy baubles and trinkets, because they still have bad taste. I don’t come at this as a money snob. There are many poor and working class people who have a dignified appearance and are dignified people. I.e. they don’t have grotesque, useless gym muscles.
>what women want
>>539450007They're too busy traveling in noguns land, having left trve america for richer pastures.
>>539450002It will if you challenge them to a deadlift competition.
>>539443943What's wrong anon? Can't handle a chubby queen on your schizo yacht?
>>539450044Only roid fags have gym muscles A natty just looks regular with a shirt on can barely tell they lift
>>539450044People born into money will spend it on stupid shit. Even stupid boomers who think they earned their millions just sit on their cash, cooking value meat on a plastic george foreman grill.
>>539443943Yes, muscle indicates lower class status.LaborersSoldiersTradiesFat guys coping by liftingYou lower your life span to build useless muscle.Useless because if you weren't low class you wouldn't need it.
>>539445591Consider: most athletes and body builders don't actually live all that luxurious lives, they're just high-maintenance tools for the true rich, who cultivate them like bonsai.
>>539445086Oh no what are they going to do to him haha
>>539444724>Muscle has nothing to do with fighting abilitywrong.while not a substitute for fighting ability, muscle/strength does ultimately enhance your combat prowess. Up to a point anyway, too much and you gas out way too quickly.
>>539450140I don’t have anything against normally strong muscled types. I.e. an athlete who requires strength. Or a worker who lifts stuff and is muscular, I’m talking about ‘monster gym’ Frankenstein types.
>>539449778>>539449880More embarassing dyel arguments...
>>539449872shut the fuck up lol you low brow retard.
>>539450140We all know you're a misshapen faggot glued to a chair, your room probably smells of unwashed ballsack
>>539449876>>539445591>muh shekelsWhat Europeans understand that Americans never will is there is more to class than money.A plumber may make a lot of money but he is decidedly lower class than a school teacher.
>>539450069no, they literally have guns
>>539446064>>539445591You normies are so low class you can't even begin to understand what class is.No, an NBA nigger does not become upper class blue blooded New England WASP material just because he gets some money.
>>539450221>>539449923The person you're replying to is completely right. The superior fighter can be sucker punched with a knife to the throat. Your best options are you shoot the other guy or run. Fighting isn't something you just casually do.
>>539450301They wouldn't beat a team of rednecks, especially the ones that started shooting at age four
being big and strong mean your at higher risk of losing your wealth. fights, gym injuries and high calories diets are all wealth killers.
>>539450301They can't bring those on a plane to see their fellow richfag friends.
>>539450480Chicken and bread is cheap. Gym injuries don't happen unless you're a powerlifter. Fights don't happen unless you're black.
>>539450158Most athletes and bodybuilders aren't pro. They're amateur.
>>539443943IN ANCIENT CHYNA THEY WOULD NEVER CUT THEIR NAILS TO SHOW EVERYONE THEY WERE DYELS WHO WONT DO SHIT
>>539450268That delusive larp was dissipated like a hundred years ago, memeflag. America becoming the world’s dominant superpower was the end of the “aristocratic” age and the difference between “classy” money and tons of new money ceased to matter. Money is all that matters now, including in Europe, which is basically just a territory of America. There is a kernel of truth in your misconception though, which is the difference between a certain KIND of new money and true generational wealth, which is that the former, like with sportsballers, is unstable and limited by how long they play, whereas true upper class money is an unending, GROWING dividend across generations. So someone might have the same hundred million dollars as an athlete and technically be in the same tax bracket, but the difference is their children will also have a hundred million dollars and the athlete’s will be seeking employment.
There's too many incredibly misinformed DYEL posts for me to reply to without hitting the spam limit. Let me reiterate:You get muscle through sets and food. You're not selling your soul. You're using your willpower to do sets and eat food. Most people fail at this. Don't overcomplicate it.
It’s impossible for most people to be “jacked and ripped” unless they’re fat or on steroids. Good example is Tom Holland. He’s very lean and has about as much muscle as his body can naturally pack on. He looks like a regular ass dude if he’s wearing a T-Shirt.If you’ve ever gotten fit and lean like me, you know what I mean. You can’t become a mass monster as a natty with 12% bodyfat.
>>539450625You're describing the difference between a lottery winner and a feudal lord, congrats on discovering class stratification 101 you faggot
>>539450370and the superior fighter can simply be shot? what you said makes 0 difference to the argument.
>>539450734Nobody knows why you think me describing something is equivalent to me “just discovering” it, retard, but whatever make you feel better about yourself
>>539450669No one cares about your faggy muscles.
>>539450625>delusiveThat isn't a word ESL shitjeet.
>>539450268Your job doesn't decide your class... A plumber builds or engineers water systems. Every school teacher paraphrases a book and does support. At the end of the day, neither of these things influence where your free time goes.
>>539450802You should probably have tried googling before you posted this, but you had too much confidence in your midwit intelligence
Being thick-bodied is a lower class thing. Like having a really thick neck, wrists, legs. Being stout, but short.Elite physique is tall and thin, with long slender limbs. This also happens to be the absolute best physique for any athletics, minus certain throwing events.
>>539445833I literally ate a bunch of nuggies and spicy ramen eggies from shartmart and so far haven't sharted. I mostly just drink whey with raw eggies, yoge and milk thougheverI just enjoy building my own stuff on my own land, not even low class
>>539450866Boxing?
>>539450749That is precisely >>539444724 's argument. Fighting goes out the window when it's war. Which is 99% of the time.
>>539450793But do you care about your own muscles and mental-physical wellbeing? If so, rejoice because it's dead simple to improve, just get over yourself.
>>539450789>Nobody knows why you think me describing something is equivalent to me “just discovering” it, retard, but whatever make you feel better about yourselfNice butthurt backpedaling, you wrote a whole paragraph jerking off about the power of money like you're some aristocrat whisperer, seethe you little twink faggot
>>539450346That's what I said you dumb bitch
>>539450002Which is why you need to develop your mind as well and not be in that situation in the first place
>>539450729That guy likely has high intelligence and shoves his middle-aged cock into high school girls. That's the point of gaining muscle. People overcomplicate this.
>>5394502520/10, lifting not argued against.
All you have to do is home calisthenics, eat well and you’ll have a perfectly acceptable bod. Gymmaxxing is brokecel hylic cope. They can’t have the biggest dick in the room in terms of what really matters, money or a soul, so they compensate by trying to look like an Adonis. Yeah, they’ll get laid doing this, same as everybody else gets laid. No one cares. What they will still never have is real fulfillment, which for men can never be found in physical vanity. That’s for gays and women.
>>539450832>A plumber builds or engineersA plumber pulls used condoms and tampons put of pipes.Education and social status determine your class - not money. Well, Americans worship money so you'd say Harvey Weinstein is a high class American. Look at him.
>>539451163Your take is cringe. Go into your bathroom mirror and take your shirt off. That's how I felt reading your post.
>>539450923Lanklets have dominated heavyweight boxing for decades.Lewis KlitschkoFuryEtc.
>>539451090You sound lower class. Possibly even Asian. How droll.
>>539451213gym rat "beef cake!" is peak cringe, low iq.
>>539451179Jews and boomers are identical. They have all the social status in your country. Education is another joke. Honestly, your class is more likely to be based on your religion at this point.
>>539451292There's nothing wrong with being Jewish.
>>539451340Judaism is a brown religion. That automatically lowers your class. Which is why Jews aren't seen in public.
>>539443943They don't eat the poisoned food.
>>539451292>I ARE HIGH CLASS BRAHMIN SAAR!!!Lol no.
>I went to a private yacht club and everybody looked lean and slim not jacked and ripped. Wealthy (and Redpilled) Men KNOW what attracts high-Quality pussy: Money.They don't have to waste time in the gym....that is for broke guys.
>>539451169Money doesn't matter. I'm broke. You're right about soul though. The money I spend paycheck-to-paycheck goes directly into my wellbeing. Looks are a red herring too, high school girls get plapped by 40 year old bald strongfats all the time. I'm willing to take your argument further: Nothing matters.
Our upper class is just the bourgeoisie. They’re all skinny in youth and skinny fat in old age, because they never do anything. Peasants and freedmen worked, aristocrats trained and managed estates. Only the bourgeois never developed any muscle.
>>539451366Jews are everywhere in public. They're doctors, lawyers, teachers, artists, politicians. They're literally visible in every public sphere. You're unironically a retarded faggot.
>>539451425Really? You need Jesus.
>>5394513400/10
>>539443943Being muscular is best
>>539451554>Jews are everywhere, they go to work and drive directly to their isolated communities because they don't integrateBravo
>>539444525No it’s literally because what we call the upper class is the bourgeoisie of the third estate. In the old days, clergy got muscular and fat, aristocrats got muscular and fat, peasants got muscular and fat, artisans and freedmen got muscular and fat. Only the bourgeois has an under-developed musculature because they never did anything physical. Their entire lives are leisure and discussion. Their jobs are fake office jobs in finance and the like. Everyone else is predisposed to a musculature. They’re not.
>>539444525>Poorer people live in a world where being strong/heavily muscled is more necessary.No, the average third worlder is completely skinny. You can see this in any footage of them you see. Can't build bodybuilder muscles without high quality protein sources (or roids)
>>539451450Money is so overrated for attracting women these days. They all want to be boss girls or some kind of model making their own money. Connections that can make or break a career will get you pussy WAY more than money does. Money gets you a mid small town girl with no career or beauty she can lean on taking advantage of you.
>>539451534Money matters to men because it’s an indicator of success, I think you might be reading my post as what best contributes to getting laid, but my point is the opposite. Getting laid is the easiest thing in the world these days, every bitch is a hoe. Seduction is a dead art, women aren’t coy maidens saving themselves for marriage anymore. If you’re literally just not weird and put yourself out there you’ll get laid. Even Destiny, the ugliest goblin in the world, who literally sucks cocks, had a 10/10 gf and dicked down Lauren Southern. Anyone can do it. Which is exactly why gymmaxxers justifying themselves by how much play they get are a joke. That’s not what matters and deep down they know it. What matters to men is success for its own sake. Whether that’s measured financially or, as I alluded to with “soul”, by mastering some craft or other. So what I’m saying in the context of this thread is that gymmaxxing is cope. In terms of bod, all you need to do is be relatively in shape and not disgusting.
>>539443943You should be built like a swimmer or at the extreme a rugby player.
>>539445320you'll never be a real woman
>>539451646>clergy got muscular and fatthe only thing clergy were doing when they weren't abusing kids was eating and drinking alcohol all day
>>539451713I agree with your posts. Although, maximizing your muscle will maximize your intelligence. Pussy is absolutely a great timewaster. Success is in the eye of the beholder. Either way we all die and meet our maker.
>>539451780They had to do labor around the churches and monasteries. They were basically part-time homesteaders and craftsmen. Even the act of brewing the beer took work. Many clergy were also trained warriors.
>>539443943>sheltered nepobabies who have never had to face adversity are weak and feminizedShocking
>>539445086RUN JUAN RUUUUUUN!
>>539443943>picrelis a high class physique. Says your disciplined, healthy, strong, and youthful without becoming a 1 dimensional male bimbo who looks like a fat, circus freak with muscle tissue. A male roidtranny is like seeing some bimbo woman with massive fake tits, fake lips, and a face that never moves. Its not attractive to anyone aside from other mentally ill people
>>539444525Then how come male top tennis players are jacked as fuck?
>>539452054He could gain more mass if he went full retard on the calories and sets. Nobody wants to because feeling bloated 24/7 is torture. Steroids are shit on principle. Sexual side effects, health problems, it's like getting rugpulled. Professional bodybuilding is pointless. One big neverending science experiment.
>>539452418yep, I'm 5'10 and sit between 170lbs at 8% bf and 180lbs at 13% depending on the time of year. I spent a lot of years doing bulks and cuts. Most I ever weighed was 200lbs and it was a force-feeding nightmare to get there and I was essentially doing it for no reason, I had achieved my goal physique around 170-175lbs
>>539443943It is an indication that you belong to a class where physical prowess matters.
God I wish I was white
>>539452526Honestly I'm willing to try the force-feeding thing via drinking calories even if it's for no reason. But there's zero chance of doing it with solid food. I don't get how fatties do it. I spent the past year figuring it out. Closest I got was deep frying corn tortillas to make chips. Might try deep frying rolled out sliced dough. Got tired of other forms of homemade goyslop.
>>539451696Just goes to show how pointless money is. Having 5 figures might as well be 10 figures. Unless your goal is politics.
>>539443943rich people go for athletic builds that support longevity. Peasants go for steroid tranny build
