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what exactly did urkanians get from this war?
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>>539456691
cookies from nudelman
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>>539456691
they owned the chuds
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i wonder if western countries are going to send those hoholwhores back when this shitshow is over.
imagine the seething if.. :D
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a generation of sex nuggets of all 249 genders
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>>539456691
tzd
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>to the last Ukrainian
woman and children next?
greater kikrael won't wait forever
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>>539456691
>what exactly did urkanians get
What they deserved
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>>539456740
Ukrainian jews don't want them back. This was done to kill off as many white men as possible so jews could import browns to rape the remaining white women.
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>>539456691
I can bench him
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Getting nervous because you can hear the explosion from your flat in st pidorburg heh?
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>>539456800
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>>539456691
A bunch of state sponsored /k/opers posting random dead conscripts and refinery gore for their jew king zelenskyiev
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>>539456691
they get to keep their country. what did russians gain from it?
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Not being Russia's little bitch and deliberately kept poor forever because other slavs escaping poverty makes Putin paranoid.
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>>539456691
Not living in your shithole. Meanwhile you gained a new type of weather thanks to all of that smoking rafinery oil.
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>>539456740
the would scream and cry like mexicans being deported, so i doubt it.
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>>539457009
the guy in op looks like a little bitch regardless
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>>539456691

Itchy feet?
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>>539456691
To not be slaves of Putin
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Humiliating Russia eternally
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>>539456691
Let me guess class consiousness?
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>>539456691
Imagine having that many freckles on your body LOL
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>>539456691
You ask yourself that question every day, don't you?
The reason you don't get an answer is that you're asking the wrong people. What do you gain from the war?
If you had taken Kyiv in three days, hats off to you - that would have been impressive, and all the experts expected that, too.

You still don’t realize how bad your position is. Normally, the end of a war leads to an economic boom, but there’s no longer any demand for russian domestic goods because the war has ensured that China plays too important a role in your economy - good luck undercutting your hegemon on price and quality.

- A three-day war would have been a jackpot; Europe had already come to terms with the new realities by the second day.
- This messed-up war? The end of Russia as a superpower and national impoverishment.

Was it worth bombing a few relatives?
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>>539456691
>What exactly did Ukrainians get from this war?
They got to think "The West" cares about them. They also got to pretend they're superior to Russians.

At least they died happy. Well, most of them anyway.
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>>539457628
>a few relatives?
what?
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>>539456691
the best west has to offer: genocide, depopulation, debt, homosexualism, feminism
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>>539457756
Didn't you know that Ukraine and Russia are the two countries in the world with the most family ties? 46% of Ukrainians have relatives in Russia, and 11 million Russians have relatives in Ukraine.
That's 10 times higher than in Germany and Austria, for example.
It feels kind of surreal when I imagine shooting at Austrians.
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>>539456891
>get to keep their country
no... they don't
>what do russians get from it
the ukrainians country
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>>539457779
They got gay butt sex and lgbt friendly
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>>539456691
prosthesis
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>>539457628
>You ask yourself that question every day, don't you?
Russia is actually fighting for something tangible. Ukraine isn't.

What do you think happens if Russia wins?
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>>539457831
>It feels kind of surreal when I imagine shooting at Austrians.
Are Austrians marching in the streets and chanting "death to Germans"?
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>>539456691
What would you even do in this situation? Just aura farm and stare at the wall or something? How does this person live? Would it not be better if he just died?
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>>539457831
Think of it like Austria and west Germany vs east Germany
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>>539457831
>It feels kind of surreal when I imagine shooting at Austrians.
You've done it before.
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>>539456691
niggers
faggot parades
their women turned into porn actresses
their children trafficked
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>>539456691
funy dog mem
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>>539457902
Live like Job I guess.
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>>539457918
That's not quite right - the last time we did it the Russians' way, we were welcomed with flowers. But I guess that was because Hitler's visions were more appealing than Putin's vision for Ukraine.
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>>539456691
Upvotes and the experience of being the goodest goyim
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>>539458085
Think of it like the capitalist Germany in a war against Honeckers Germany in the 80s. How that would have played out - same idea. One is independent basically and one is rump state.
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>>539457328
>To not be slaves of Putin
It's ironic to call Russians slaves when Ukrainian men are literal slaves with zero freedom.

>inb4 Putin made them do it
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They got their 1991 borders back and caused russia's collapse and balkanization.
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>>539456691
Ukraine still existing.
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For the European Perspective.
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>>539458085
You're retarded. Just as >>539458085 >>539457915 said in multiple posts, if your governments were controlled like Ukraine's, you would be cutting each other's throats.

Moreover, the reason the Austrians joined you was because you were rich(and the Austrian government tried to block the Anschluss. Which is why Hitler invaded anyway). This whole Ukraine/Russia War is really all about money. Jewish oligarchs and hundreds of billions of western bribes/corruption to keep the war going. Moreover, there is no democracy, and when Ukrainians were allowed to vote, they voted for peace and protections for Russians. Instead they got war and no rights. They aren't even allowed to leave. Everything about this war is Jewish and retarded.
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>>539456691
New drone tech to destroy Russia.
Also - They have technology, they can rebuild him.
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>>539458277
>Ukraine still existing.
It existed for hundreds of years in the Russian empire, and would have continued existing. The only reason it's dying now is because retards in western Ukraine were brainwashed by kikes into a suicidal war with Russia.

It's even funnier because we literally said that's what the plan is. Zelensky even told Ukrainians that to their faces, and they're too retarded to do anything about it.
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>>539456691
>Demonstrating how full of shit, and what a bunch of soft cunts the Russians are
Pretend your mother isn't right now sucking cock for fuel
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>>539458277
and even that fell apart
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>>539458408
It also accomplished
distracting Russia from Syria so al-Assad could be brought down.
sending all the nationalists in where they could fly swastikas (big fucking red flag) and get killed.
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>>539458525
tick tock bongjeet
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>>539458525
I'll be waiting
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>>539456691
Their own country
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>>539458141
Russia is just screwing up its narrative.
If it had devoted half of its war resources to soft power, it could have expanded its sphere of influence across large parts of Central and Eastern Europe.
As a benevolent soft power, Russia could even have asserted itself against China in Central Asia.

I don’t care about dying - I’m not that naive - but geostrategically, this war is Russia’s (and Ukraine’s) greatest catastrophe of the 21st century, and the Russians just screwed it up.
I’m not in the mood to view the conflict in black-and-white terms just for the sake of fanboy posturing.
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>>539458516
>It existed for hundreds of years in the Russian empire
It existed hundreds of years before Russia came to be and will exist hundreds of years after Russia collpases.
The world didn't start in 18th century with US declaring indepence uneducated mutt
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>>539458666
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>>539457834
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They're still Ukrainians instead of Russians, with all the benefits of being a sovereign country rather than an administrative district. What have the Russians got from the war they started?
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>>539458516
>suicidal war with Russia.
They didn't start the war.
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>>539456691
I think I practiced CPR on that guy
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At least Ukrainian women are faithful to the brave men fighting on the front lines.
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>>539458688
Exactly, before the war due to COVID they had a fucking enormous anti UE and anti West momentum in social media. They decided to fuck it all by attacking Ukraine.
They did the same in 2008 and 2014 where they were hosting Olympics and had great wrld wide PR and fucked it over by starting a war.
Which proves that they are just fucking barbarians and retards over there.

China on the other hand is doing absolutely nothing physically, but they do the PR.
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>>539458700
actually it was just known as rus. the ukraine is a product of the austro-hungarian empire and is mostly kept alive by the thuggish violence of judeo-turks
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>>539458700
>It existed hundreds of years before Russia came to be
The Kievan Rus wasn't Ukrainian you fucking moron. Swedes have a more rightful claim to the Rus than Ruthenians or Zaporozhian Cossacks. I get so tired of seeing this cope.

>>539458760
>They didn't start the war.
It started in 2014, retard. It's ironic because I keep seeing that video from Mariupol where the Ukrainian Army busted through separatist barricades in armored vehicles because the new Ukrainian general was the one driving it.

Haven't you ever heard of the ATO?
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>>539456691
They died for Blackrock. There's been nothing in it for Ukraine for a couple years.
They should've surrendered territory, built their army up and took it back later.
But the jews need those profits from the trillions in rebuilding investment now!
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>>539456691
Pretty crazy Ukrainians would rather die by the millions than spend a single second living as a Russian lol
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>>539456691
Free gibbs from EU
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>>539458896
They don;t have a choice. The borders are closed and the bus is always somehwere around the corner, searching for "patriots" that need a little push to go to the front.
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>>539458896
They don't really have a choice since they're being drafted.
And Crimea seems to disagree or it probably would've revolted.
Fuck off NAFO trash.
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>>539458869
>The Kievan Rus wasn't Ukrainian you fucking moron
Surely it wasn't Russia as well you fucking smelly muscovite mongol rapebaby.
>>539458833
Ukraine is product of Catholic Poland conquering Orthodox Kievian Rus.
We can smell you are russian just by how ahistorical you are and how you ignore that Poland actually ruled there for over 400 years.
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>>539456691
>We wuz germanics and shieet not those asiatic Ruzzianz! Long live the eternal NED-CIA global liberal Atlantic empire! We. Are. Better. Than. Easterners!
Let it fall.
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>>539458810
Throughout Western Europe, there was widespread anti-U.S. sentiment due to the wars in the early 2000s.
A common economic zone stretching from Lisbon to Vladivostok, with a peaceful Russia serving as a bloc against the U.S. and China, was a realistic thought experiment.
And sooner or later, Russia would have strategically dominated this market due to its resources and population.

All the Russians would have had to do was do nothing and enjoy a good life. It’s a shame they blew that opportunity.
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>>539458869
>Swedes have a more rightful claim to the Rus than Ruthenians or Zaporozhian Cossacks
Ruthenian literally means Rus. You're going about this completely wrong. Ukrainians are Russians and derive everything from Kievan Rus. You are talking to a Pole. Poles essentially created Ukraine with Austria-Hungary so they could keep their Ruthenian serfs and keep colonizing and stealing their land. Simply reply to the Pole with an image like this and remind him that Russia is actually older than Poland.

Pic rel is Poland's eastern border area, made up of ethnic Ruthenians, not Poles. It isn't a war between Russia and Ukraine, Ukraine is a proxy of Western nations as well as Poland.
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>>539456691
How many firesales did that guy take?
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>>539458869
>The Kievan Rus wasn't Ukrainian

They became Ukrainian. Ukraine is the legacy of the Kievan Rus, 1:1.

>It started in 2014, retard.

You mean when the Russians annexed Crimea? Yeah, Ukraine did not start that, retard.
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>>539458946
They were out protesting against the removal of that one military officer so they could protest about ending the war if they wanted
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>>539457862
Are Germans acting like niggers to Austrians?
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>>539458972
>>539459078
>>539459107
>Surely it wasn't Russia as well you fucking smelly muscovite mongol rapebaby.
It was both of them and neither of them. Although for some reason Belarus always gets left out of this discussion. Which has just as rightful a claim. Hell, the people of Novgorod might as well claim they are the rightful heirs of the throne. Since that is where the Rus began. But that would become idiotic very quickly, because it is.

Not only is it cope, but Ukraine didn't exist until 1991, the name itself means borderlands, and the Cossacks weren't even an ethnicity. The word "Cossack" isn't even Slavic. It's a Turkic word. And Ukrainians are a mix of Slavs and Tatars.
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>>539459125
>not being able to leave your country means you are free
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>>539458998
Yep, I remember even talks about making US-EU-Russia block against raising China power under Obama. And then making EU-Russia block with Germans pushing for it with NS and NS2.
And all failed because Russians are fucking barbarians who decided to wage war instead of doing business.
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>>539458972
You have to go back mykola. The trenches hunger for your flesh
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>>539457328
Putin isn't enslaving Ukrainians. Every peace agreement Russia offered had an independent Ukraine with free elections.
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>>539459176
Genetic print has nothing to do with nationality you fucking retard. I.e. Hungarians are genetically slavs, but are Hungarians.
> but Ukraine didn't exist until 1991
Ukraine actually had declared independence after WW1 in 1917 and 1918 creating Peopple's Ukrainian Rebublic and Westerrn People's Ukrainian Republic.
And even before that it was recognized in 1658 by Polish state as separate autonomus state.
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>>539457628
>The end of Russia as a superpower and national impoverishment.
Russia is wealthier now than it was before the war. Russian people are also wealthier and their pensions and welfare systems increased payments during the war. Literally every metric has improved under Putin regarding QoL, and the only Russians I can find to disagree with that are expats on the CIA payroll who haven't visited Russia in 15 years
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>>539459288
I do not have to go to any trenches, when Ukrainians and Russians are killing eachother you retarded Ivan.
Also you just proved you have zero arguments by reducing yourself to a fucking russian meme.
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>>539459176
Southern and eastern Ukraine have only been Ukrainian since World War II, when Ukrainians fled to Russian cities to escape the advancing Wehrmacht, and the Russians from those cities retreated deeper into Russia.
Before World War II, Odessa was 90% Russian; after World War II, it was 30%, and that applies to the entire region.
Yes, it used to be Russian, but it just isn’t anymore.
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>>539456691
>what exactly did urkanians get from this war?
they helped a jew get rich.
that isnt nothing.
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>>539459176
>Ukrainians are a mix of Slavs and Tatars.
Ukrainians are Slavs like Russians and Belarusians. Cossacks were basically Russian cowboys and in service of Russia. What's going on here is that this particular Pole is a retard who tried to claim that Ukraine is "Kievan Rus". All of Ukraine, Russia and Belarus are Rus. In fact it was never called Kievan Rus, it was just Rus.

Canonically they will say something like "Moscow was a swamp" or something, Moscow was well within the borders of Rus (which went far east to Ryazan) and IIRC part of the principality of Tver or Suzdal, I cannot remember. It was just a small trading post on a river at the time. The original capital of Rus was indeed Novgorod and the founding dynasty of Rus was from the area around Lake Ladoga, where they united the Slavic tribes and then made Kiev the capital for the vast majority of Rus' existence.
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>>539456891
>they get to keep their country
If Ukraine wins the war, then Ukrainians continue to not have their country. Literally the only way Ukraine will ever be ruled by a Ukrainian again is if Russia wins and removes the Jewish tyrant who suspended the constitution.
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what do russian niggers get from invading ukraine? I thought you were going to take it in 3 days? what happened? why are you still dying in the mud of the east donbas?
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>>539459348
Ukrainians are genetically indistinguishable and non distinct from Russians.
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>>539458085
>Putin's vision for Ukraine.
Independent demilitarized state not in NATO with free elections?
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>>539459478
youre genetically indistinguishable from a jeet nigger
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>>539459432
>In fact it was never called Kievan Rus, it was just Rus.
Can you mutts stop showing how your education system is shit and not talk about European history?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kievan_Rus%27
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Principality_of_Moscow

The crowning sword of Polish monarch was Szczerbiec, a Sword that Bolesław Chrobry chipped on Kiev's gate when he conquered Kievian Rus and defeated Jarosław the Wise.
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>>539458184
>Not be part of Russia.
During the encirclement of Kiev, Ukraine signed a peace agreement that had an independent Ukraine. Russia immediately honored the deal by withdrawing. Every agreement Russia offered since then also called for independent Ukraine.
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>>539459377
If you spend 30% of the tax burden on fireworks year after year and let it go up in smoke, that money has been taken out of the economic cycle. Seriously, I think that makes you poorer.

You’re welcome to believe something else; I just believe something different. Still, I can sit down with you at the bar and have a beer. It’s not my fight.
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>>539459478
As well they are non distinguishable from Poles, Slovaks and Belarussians.
I'll give you other hint. Chroats, Serbians and Bosniaks are also nondistinguishable genetically. They even use the same language. Yet they have separate countries.
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>>539459478
They speak a bumpkin Russian dialect though which totally makes them different.
But all whites are the same everywhere else on the planet and have no culture.
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>>539458760
>They didn't start the war.
The Ukrainian military was fighting a kinetic war against the Donbas Republic for a decade before Russia joined the conflict.
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>>539459566
So why aren't they called Kievan Ruthenians then? Or Kievan Rusyns? You know, the Rusyn ethnic group which is a minority in Poland? Rusyns afterall are Orthodox East Slavs because they are... Russian, named after Rus.
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>all the /uhg/ies coping itt
come home and rebuild your cunt ratfugees
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>>539456691
Jewish leaders who want them eradicated.
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>>539459644
Aren't you sick of their canned bullshit?
It's really starting to get to me.
Some NAFO troon will come in and defend the shitlords from a country equally as corrupt as Russia if not moreso, because someone told them it was moral or somemthing.
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>>539456691
It's so fucking cruel to keep anyone that lost more than 2 limbs alive.
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>>539458896
>Ukrainians would rather die by the millions than spend a single second living as a Russian lol
According to Ukraine's own numbers, defections are higher than casualties. Of Ukraine refugees, the largest cohort fled to Russia. Despite all these leavers, the remainder of the population overwhelmingly support negotiation with Russia to continuing the war. Hence the suspended elections
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>>539459348
I'm not going to argue all day. The point is, Ukrainians are neither the political nor ancestral descendants of the Kievan Rus. They're Polish and Turkic rapebabies. Who wouldn't even exist now if not for Russia.
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>>539459669
Because of the same reason Russia is not Muscovite Kingdom and definitely is not USSR anymore or Poland is not Lechia anymore (though Turks and Hungarians still call Poland Lechistan) nor Commonwealth of Two Nations or why Czechia is not called Bohemia and Moravia nor Czech Republic anymore. Or why Myanmar is not Birma anymore. Or why any other fucking country changed its name during its existence you fucking retard.
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>>539459715
And look at the good goys doing the work.
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>>539459757
And? USA wouldn't exist now if it was not for UK. Should you just go back to being rulled by Brits?
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>>539459758
I literally have no idea what the fuck you are even babbling about. Russia is older than Poland, in yellow is what Poland looked like when Rus was already a large state.
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>>539456691
Another ZaeHD production
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>>539459848
>forgot pic
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>>539459848
>I literally have no idea what the fuck you are even babbling about.
I know because you are uneducated faggot.
This is how every talk of scholars with plebs always looks like.
>Russia is older than Poland
Kek. Poland got recognized in 966.
Russia came to be in 1389.
Not only you do not know history, you even suck at maths.
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>>539459599
>If you spend 30% of the tax burden on fireworks
66% of federal revenue, but only 7% of GDP. And almost all of that on personnel, not expended munitions. Russia's financial situation is still better than it was before, since it's exporting more oil at a higher price and has a larger share of the population brought into it's middle class. Russia's state is financially much stronger than America or Germany's. That's why the US and EU are considering stealing Russian deposits but not vice versa.
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>>539456691
The common man on both sides gained nothing but death, despair, desolation, chaos, shame, and hardship. Both sides were played by their corrupt governments and they all suffered for the elites as a result.
If however both sides ONLY used jeets, it would then be a complete positive for the world.
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>>539459947
>Poland got recognized in 966.
Congrats but the capital of Rus was moved from Novgorod to Kiev in 882, Rus existed before that. By 882 it was already a huge state. You're a moron.
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>>539459947
He counts Mongol teritory as continous russia, but somehow princedom of Mieszko's father, grandfather etc. back to OG Piast doesn't count lol
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>>539459989
There are some profound delusions. You know economy does not work on talking how good it is, but on factual numbers? One would have thought you would know it after economicall fall of USSR and Eastern Bloc. But I guess low IQ monkeys cannot learn from history.
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>>539460014
>Congrats but the capital of Rus was moved from Novgorod to Kiev in 882
Rus is not Russia.
Belarus is closer to being historical Rus than Muscovites from Russia will ever be.
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>>539460014
Nigga Gniezno started existance in VI century and Kraków in the VII.
966 is separation of pegan Polans from christian Poles and they were ruled by the same guy who converted
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>>539459383
Okay white nigger of europe
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>>539458869
>Ukraine threats to donbas
where is the threats?
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>>539460016
The founding Piast dynasty which begins in 966? Russia's founding dynasty is 100 years older.
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>>539459209
I didn't say they were free, I'm just saying if they can protest about that general they could protest about removing zelenski and capitulating the eastern territories to end the war.

>>539459749
If that's true where are the protests? Ukrainians have internet and were just out en masse in support of a guy who wants to increase the fighting
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>>539460109
>"Their kids will sit in bomb shelters. That's how we'll win the war."
>Where are the threats?
t. retard
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>>539460107
Is that supposed to be offensive? Because it isn't f you know history of why Haitans called Poles that.
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>>539456691
death and enslavement to the kikodemons
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>>539460098
And there were Slavs living in modern East Slavic territory around that time too, so what's the point? Are we saying the Piast Dynasty did not found and create the Polish state? Because they did, as Rurik created the Russian one. Not only that but Rus was Christianized before Poland as well.
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>>539456783
>the remaining white women.
i wonder what kind of ukrainian women are still lingering in their shithole
any half valuable cunt is long gone, by the millions too
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>>539460107
>>539460172
To add to it - Haitans called Poles white negroes as recognition we can be brothers and cooperate together. Completely different people from completely different parts of the world who recognized themselves as brothers.

On the other hand Russia calls all slavs brothers, yet they constantly try to kill and fuck them over and no other slavic country wants to be brothers with Russia.

Simple cultural difference which shows which culture is far stronger worldwide.
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>>539460139
Yeh bro Mieszko materialized out of nowhere in X century. Gallus Anonimus and Ibrahim Ibyn Jakub were writing about his grandfather already ruling the area.
The change is their religion
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>>539459241
>>539458998
>>539458810
>>539458688
which is why russia was forced into declaring war by the usual kike tactics
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>>539460256
There was no such thing as Poland before the Piasts though. There may have been Western Slavs, but no Poland. There may have been a Slavic tribe called the Polans, but there was also one called that in what is modern Ukraine around that time too. The Russian state is indeed older than the Polish one.
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>>539460347
The only kike who forced Russia into war was Vladimir Putin.
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>>539456691
What matters is what america gets out of this.
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>>539460172
we both know that this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Mol
is why he called you the white niggers of europe
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>>539457902
write a book
french guy did it with eyelid 30 years ago
hohol can be neuralink ideal subject + android AUGGS
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>>539460374
>there were no Poles before Poland become a state called Poland
>but there were Russians before Russia become a state called Russia in 15th century
It is so tiresome
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>>539460428
A pat on the back from Israel
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>>539460473
gadaj do dupy, to Cie osra
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>>539456691
Collapse and death.
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>>539460145
Stating facts are threats now? Wild to see an american of all people say that lol. What happened to facts don't care about your feelings?
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>>539460578
>american
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>>539456691
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>>539460473
Russian statehood goes back to Rurik. The Duchy of Moscow and subsequent Russian Empire had Rurikids as rulers until 1600. That's an almost 800 year dynasty going directly back to Rurik.

The Polish Piast Dynasty lasted only about half as long, from 960 to 1380 or something. God damn anon, just STFU already.
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>>539460675
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>>539456691
Blood for Moloch and Infinity jeets
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>>539460145
Loving Ukraine is hands down of the worst decisions you can make.
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>>539456691

Nugget for the laries
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>>539460578
>It's not a threat if it's true
Why do you niggers constantly bog me down with stupidity? It would be nice if I could just ignore you.
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>>539456891
Lol, they’re already replacing the Ukrainians with indians. Employers stopped hiring young Ukrainians men because they know they’ll just get conscripted so they’d rather spend time training a foreigner.
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>>539460473
widzisz, osrala Cie
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>>539456691
Russian and Ukrainian women will both be getting lots of my cock once this war is over
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>>539456691
Imagine having to ask for permission when you have diarrhea from being fed beans all day
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>>539460693
>from 960 to 1380 or something.
Lol. In Poland. In Silesia and Hungary they rulled for longer.

Anyways
>The Romanovichi ruled the southwestern territories, which were unified by Roman the Great and his son Daniel, who was in 1253 crowned by Pope Innocent IV as the king of Ruthenia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_the_Great

Roman was the son of Mstislav Iziaslavich, Grand Prince of Kiev, and Agnes of Poland. His maternal grandfather was Polish prince Boleslaw the Wrymouth.

Poles were Russians now. We have more claims to Kievian Rus than Russians and Rurikovichs.
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>>539456691
what you mean? they're trying to survive, not 'get' something. russia invades ukraine, ukraine fights them, and you ask what does ukraine get? it's trying to get a situation where russia is defeated.
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>>539460141
>If that's true where are the protests
Lviv rioted just last week. There are multiple suicide bombings at TCC centers, and if you've lurked at all you've seen videos of people stabbing TCC to death. And this is happening despite the fighting age population being largely depleted.
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>>539456891
>they get to keep their country.
Ukraine has one of the lowest fertility-rates in the world and almost all of their child-bearing aged females left. Moreover, Ukraine has lost half its population already, and would lose the other half if they weren't prevented from leaving. Ukraine's demographics are catastrophic and unrecoverable. Even if they were to win, they will still get replaced. Moreover, their goal is to join the EU, who would then control their immigration policy.

Ukraine committed suicide for nothing.

>what did russians gain from it?
If Russia wins, NATO will cease to exist. Germany and Russia will restore Nordstream and America will leave Europe. Russia instantly becomes a superpower again. Had Russia done nothing, it would have been subordinated, disarmed, and balkanized.

As I said, Russia is actually fighting for something. Ukrainians are just useful-idiots.
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Why did Russia even bother invading? Seems like it's been a complete and total failure
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>>539460977
>Roman was the son of Mstislav Iziaslavich, Grand Prince of Kiev, and Agnes of Poland. His maternal grandfather was Polish prince Boleslaw the Wrymouth.
Literally every single European royal family intermarried with one another for various reasons.

Also this was a prince of Novgorod and it says he died defending what is now Western Ukraine, AKA the Rus principality of Galicia-Volhynia, from Poles. I also didn't know Western Ukraine was ruled by a Novgorodian branch of the Rurikids, but that's pretty interesting. Thanks based retard Pole anon.
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>>539456740
They are getting married, at least in V4 and our women are seething. Thanks Zelensky
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If we send our ukrainians back we will get muslim migrants instead, if we dont accept them its 20k euro fine for one. So every politician wants them to stay and the war to continue. Thats the deal currently. EU is really fucked up
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>>539456691
imagine never being able to fap again
living hell
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>>539456691
2 million dead Russians
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>>539456774
Die for ukraine goyim
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>>539456691
> 'tis but a scratch
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>>539456691
do you and the xD guy spoon eachother at night after a long shift at the shill center?
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>>539459567
>it was a gesture of goodwill
Lol, lmao even
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>>539461614
>Europe being deindustrialized
>Europe going bankrupt
>America becoming desperate and blowing through its stockpiles of weapons trying to save the petrodollar via monopolizing global oil markets(and failing)
>America bogged down in Europe and the Middle-East and cannot pivot to Asia. Global power continues to shift. Anti-American forces grow stronger every day.
>Europe becoming so desperate they're pushing the world towards WWIII because they've spent half a trillion dollars on a losing war, their industries cannot compete with China, and they're going into massive unsustainable debt via military-Keynesianism. If they cannot defeat Russia, the globalist empire is doomed.

>Why did Russia even bother invading? Seems like it's been a complete and total failure
Imagine being this retarded.
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>>539456691
They get glory
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>>539456691
>fighting in the trenches
>not killing Zelensky and his kike goons and ending the war
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>>539456691
I CAN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING
CAN'T TELL IF THIS IS TRUE OR A DREAM
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>>539460918
That's russia
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>>539461508
>>539462312
Wow damn, how retarded can you be. Claim that UE and US are collapsing, and instead of allowing them to collapse by themselves with earning money from NS and NS2 by just waiting you strenghtened NATO, EU and US bonds by attacking Europe too early. And you claim it is victory. Jeez, you Russians are literally RETARDS. Instead of down syndrome kid photo next to it in encyclopedia there should be photo of russian there.
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>>539463083
>you strenghtened NATO
NATO isn't stronger. Sweden and Finland in NATO is a formality. It doesn't change anything. And if Ukraine loses, NATO will fall apart because America can no longer afford to subsidize your shithole, and Europe cannot afford to defend itself.

>EU and US bonds by attacking Europe too early
Do you mean "bonds" as in friendship or bonds as in treasuries? Pic-related.
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>>539463362
You are really retarded.
You cannot go past Ukraine and you want to go for NATO which right now sped up military spendings. The longer you stay in Ukraine the stronger European part of NATO becomes. You fucking lost.
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>>539456691
dispelling the myth that russia is competent at war.
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>>539456691
why did you start it?
They didn't want to do it.
Also, your country is destroyed. Your women get colonized by Indians, Africans. Russian men are dead.
Your country is fully destroyed.
You get a Phyrus victory, but russian men don't get it. And you are not russian.
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>>539463583
>ACK ACK ACK
this you ?
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>>539463615
are trannies bad?
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>>539463475
>You cannot go past Ukraine and you want to go for NATO which right now sped up military spendings. The longer you stay in Ukraine the stronger European part of NATO becomes.
The problem Europe faces is that it cannot compete with China when it is paying 4x more for energy. What Europe is doing right now is spending a bunch of money on the military to give the appearance of economic growth and to prevent mass-unemployment. This is unsustainable. Europe could spend a lot of money on the military during the Cold War only because its only enemy was the Soviet Union. But military-spending now will only make Europe poorer and weaken its position over the long run.

To put it in simple terms, if Europe goes into debt to build up its military, it will have to use that military, and soon. It cannot sustain that level of military spending because of the nature of Europe's economy(which must export industrial goods to survive).
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>>539459292
You can't be that naive, in every territory the Russians invaded they made people vote at gunpoint.
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>>539463083
>Claim that UE and US are collapsing
The russian propaganda has been making these claims for over a hundred years now.
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>Loosing all your limbs so that jew oligarks can install a golden toilet
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>>539463889
now do the China-russia trade disbalance and how they've all but killed off the russian manufacturing. China is now choking off what remains of russian manufacturing on all levels and in all industries. Picrel is pootin's last visit to China. The dictator don't look so good.
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>>539464348
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>>539456691
what they got?
ukranian people: suffering.
ukraninan, european and american elites: lots and lots of money.

as always with war.
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>>539464514
>Loosing your legs so that a jew can install a golden toilet
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>>539461614
To survive western aggression, to save the Donbas from genocide, to destroy biolabs, to demilitarize Ukraine, free flow of water to Sevastopol, warm water ports, trillions in minerals, buffer for Moscow, and to liberate Ukraine from its imposed anti-ukrainian government
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>>539464514
>Losing your goblinas so that a jew can install a new golden toilet
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>>539456691
epic gaming chairs going by that picture. but people who get invaded are typically not the beneficiaries of war, monsieur ivan. i mean unless you're a woman, and it's not a gay drone war, then i guess you get your pussy just pummeled.
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>>539456691
>539456691
A new all Jewish population. It's on the way. They still haven't drafted enough Ukrainians to genocide yet. You're slacking on your side of the agreement, Abramovich.
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>>539463083
>you strenghtened NATO, EU and US bonds
The US is threatening to invade Europe again, and to dissolve NATO.
>Claim that UE and US are collapsing
Conditions in the US are significantly worse than they were in 2022 or 2014
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>>539464696
>pussy just pummeled.

American goblina pussy pummeled checked.
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>>539464430
Trump's trip to China was even worse.

But yes, I agree, China wants to fuck Russia over. That's why China is holding out on Power of Siberia 2. They want to make Russia soo desperate that they'll basically sell gas to China for nothing.

I never said the future is bright for Russia. I said the future for Europe is catastrophic, and that things would be even worse for Russia had they done nothing.
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>>539456691
Dead christians
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>>539463475
>The longer you stay in Ukraine the stronger European part of NATO becomes.
Measured in what metric?
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>>539463583
>why did you start it?
Russia didn't start the Donbas conflict or expand NATO eastwards
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>>539464736
>The US is threatening to invade Europe again, and to dissolve NATO.
Huh?
Mark Rutte said the following.

NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte appears to suggest in an interview that the alliance is a “platform for the United States to project power on the World stage”.

You're retarded and brown.
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>>539463583
>Russian men are dead.
Russia's population increased.
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>>539464749
Germany, the UK, France are fucked. Russia is dead, the US is about to fall down the same cliff that claimed the lives of the Ottoman, Spanish, and British empire: debt.
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>>539464740
see, another gay projectile war that denies the warful man his rightful prize of quivering mystery meat minge. being a soldier in the current space year is literally cuckoldry.
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>>539460114
We did this in Nanking
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>>539463932
The Donbas Republics fought a ten year guerilla war to declare independence, then voted to join Russia, and now fight on the Russian side. There is not currently a guerilla war by Donbas residents against Russian occupation. This is strong corroboration for the votes. Their behavior aligns rationally with their situation, since Ukraine was trying to genocide them.
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>>539464137
Ukrainian refugees in Moscow don't get stabbed to death on the train by niggers
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>>539464430
>they've all but killed off the russian manufacturing.
Russia's manufacturing is steadily growing yoy.
>China is now choking off what remains of russian manufacturing on all levels and in all industries
Replace Russia with America and this is true.
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>>539464824
>Huh?
>Ruttard quote
Donald Trump wants Greenland and is threatening a land invasion. He's not joking. You're a dumb bitch if you don't think America will backdoor Europe during a war with Russia for the third time in a row.
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>>539465137
Ukrainians are subhominids and we don't want them in our Germanic countries.
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Russia is so fucked for the next 100 years
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>>539456691
They will have nothing.
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>>539464749
>Power of Siberia 2
Nafo troon talking point
Its a huge fucking deal and there are a ton of details to negotiate.

Russia already has the largest fastest pipeline in the world going to Shanghai that supplies 300 million homes.
>well they built one but they cant build another!
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>>539465214
EU was created by Usa after ww2 through the marshal plan.
European members of NATO are american vassals.

Mark Rutte, "the 14th Secretary General of NATO, asserts that the alliance is fundamentally rooted in democracy and relies on American leadership for its security and effectiveness"

The European union and NATO are american colonial institutions.
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>>539456691
Probably something more than a sack of potatoes.
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>>539461508
What do you think happens when Putin dies lol? Russia made a bet and ground themselves down and will have to steel themselves now or crash.
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>>539465512
you stop being a vassal when you become a puccian vassal.
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>>539456691
They got alot of disabled vets. The way people talk about them you'd think they were our most valuable resource.
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>>539465948
We were alliance free for hundreds of years until our faggot politicans sold us out to faggot jew nato and eu.

Israel have killed more american goy soldiers than Iran.
Crazy huh?
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>Sweden will be invaded by Russia trust me on this you must join NATO- ACKKKKK
Propagandized idiots deserve the rope.
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>>539458277
>Ukraine still existing.
For what purpose?
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>>539465004
I wonder who ignited and fueled this guerilla of "independentists" who immediately "voted" to join another country...
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>>539466316
Russia of course, just like the counterpart America is coercing their European vassal goys to join their guerrilla NATO.
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>>539457862
If Germany invaded them they probably would, you great big retard
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>>539466032
Your politicans sold you to somalis, but you cry about NATO. Damned russian vpn faggots cannot even get things straight.
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>>539466449
>Your politicans sold you to somalis
Yes they did, they also sold our national sovereignty to EU and NATO.
Once you become a vassal to the jewish USA world jewery protectorate.
Then you country will become gay, retarded and brown.

Dispute this you circumcised VPN faggot retard lmao.
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>>539456691
testosterone
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>>539456691
I truly despise ALL of you fucking faggots that revel in this misery from a nice safe distance. This entire "war" is designed to cull slavic goyim en masse. In the process it's also essentially a product development trial for defense contractors to perfect weapons that they'll use against YOU next. Fuck both Russian and Ukrainian governments. They're both totalitarian hellscapes run by kikes. The majority of troops on both sides are hapless victims. Brainwashed into hating the fuck out of their own people to advance jewish interests. Meanwhile, you've got these disgusting halfbreed stinking western troons that get online and talk about this shit like it's a fucking anime and act like they wouldn't piss straight out of their nu-hole into their man sized panties if someone even threatened them IRL, let alone the kind of fucked up shit going on over there right now. You're all lower than niggers.
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>>539461508
Fucking based. NAFO troons stay malding
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>>539456691
Not getting assimilated into your HIV infested "culture" you love to spread everywhere your can get your greasy cannon fodder to go
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>>539461959
Die for putin, serf
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>>539467375
Go die in the sandbox please.
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>>539465137
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>>539456891
>keep their country
"country" invented by a commie kikes
sweden is irrelevant anyway
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>>539463083
>you Russians are literally RETARDS.
So am I Russian too if I hate the NATROONS?
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>>539456740
biocunts aren't supposed to defend a country, they're too strong, independent and physically and mentally equal to a man to die in a war
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>>539463475
>stronger European part of NATO become
more trannies in the army?
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>>539464430
>pootin dies
& thats a good thing
The Tsar will rule Russia again
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>>539456691
Sovereignty
Its not that hard to understand
If the US invaded russia and sent a ranger unit to capture the Moscow Airport, would you expect Russians to not fight back?
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>>539469420
No, you are retard because you try talk to someone talking to someone else about something completely unrelated to what you fucking faggot retard ass posted.
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>>539469621
How about they preform a coup in mexico and then start arming and training an invasion force there.
Would Israel i mean would Usa act?
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>>539468190
nicole kidman has that same demonic look in her eyes
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>>539456691
A well learned lesson about not trusting russians or giving up nuclear weapons.
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>>539456740
What do you mean you wander. Have the same western countries been sending back the Syrians after the war in Syria ended?

What sort of questions is that? They are as German as you and I now.
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>>539470244
What about trusting americans and their jewish masters?
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Did another berries go up in glames or what?
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I always lmao when i see the shit white people do to eachother then they get mad when a black guy steals a bike.
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>>539469717
What?



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