>Refuses to become it's own geopolitical sphereWhy?
How are they a vassal to America or Russia? Please explain simply and address the question.
>>539460550>Why?They would not rule for long, they have no legitimacy, people would simply ignore them
>>539460550pidors are seething todayi guess they didn't take the sanctions well
>>539460596Because the military is weakWhy tho?Why do we refuse to militarize to the point that we could stand up to pressure from Russia or USA, or to not be dependent on the latter for protection?
The EU IS trying to become a superpower. Its the globalists base of power. They seek world domination. If Kamala Harris had won in 2024, the US would be another globalist vassal state by now.
>>539460804>How are they a vassal to America or Russia?>Because the military is weakthat is a non sequitur
>>539460550we excanged whitr racial identity for "european values", whatever that even means.
Because they feat the six gorillion will happen again
>>539460550Google what resources are
>>539460804Europe is militarizing.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020s_European_rearmament
>>539460804>Europe has a weak military>Russia doesn't really give a shit and seeks peaceful relations rather than attackingUhhhh bros were we being lied to about Russia being bloodthirty ziggers ruzzia pooptin vatniks? I don't remember anything but peace and friendly trade until the US fucked up Ukraine.
>>539460838Its not just the military.It's also the fact that we will never ever stop caving to American demands and wishes.Or the fact that it's America that dictates European hotspots against Russia.There is also a cultural dominance by America.A lot of reasons, I am sure you can think of some yourself. We dont have the same geopolitical integrity as Russia and China has despite the fact that we in theory could have it if we decided it.But we have simply settled for the backseat. Why? Why are we not an active player in the geopolitical sphere of influence?
>>539460550> Wasted back to back generations of its warrior class in wars against itself, killing tens of millions of its best people and preventing the birth of tens of millions more> Why are we vassal states?Look at a map of the British empire before WWII. But oh the painter was going to take over the world and everything had to be sacrificed to destroy him.
>>539461078>It's also the fact that we will never ever stop caving to American demands and wishes.such as?>A lot of reasons, I am sure you can think of some yourself.you made the statement, so back it up
>>539460920It was mostly USA that kept edging on Ukraine to take a more firm antagonizing stand against Russia, and EU just kinda rode along because what USA says is law.Now we're caught up in this Cold War 2.0 between Russia and USA happening in Europe. Why? Why must it be like this? US interests should cease west of the Azores.Likewise Russian interests should cease east of the Dniper.
>>539460550USA is gayRussia is gayEurope is a twink that gotta chose between two daddies.
buddy europe is gonna turn 75 % nonwhite in one generation as soon as boomers dieimpossible to stay relevant and powerful that way
>>539460550cause making your own military that can deter china is really expensive
>>539460885wtf it's literally goatse
>>539460550You can thank Germans for that
>>539461148Such as USA pressuring Europe to constantly join their foreign military actions (and never vice versa btw). Iraq 2003 being one example.There is also trade with Russia which USA pressures Europe to cease. Nordstream being the best example of this. The Germans didnt want that to end but USA did.There is also policies against China. Europe has no beef with China whatsoever but USA still wants Europe to take an antagonizing stand, banning Huawei etc, and other export restrictions.Also demands to comply with sanctions against Iran, despite it also not being any of EUs business. Point is that EU firmly comply with whatever sanctions USA brew up because of US economic impact over Europe.And finally, military presence around Europe.Again, why? Why do we need that? Why do we refuse to become our own sphere with the same integrity as China or Russia?
>>539460550Cause they keep push their woke shit and kneecapping themselves. Hell, most of the nation will be taken over by the 3rd world they been letting in by the 2030s. They're a dead region walking/limping
>>539460550>Why must Europe always be a vassal to either America or Russia?It has no resources.Ignore anyone who says it's because Europe is weak militarily. Paradoxically, European military spending actually makes Europe weaker because it makes Europe poorer. The only time Europe was powerful was when it had colonies with resources.
>>539460550It's because you're all too pretentious. Too sure of your own superiority that you refuse to actually do the things you need to do.Energy is the big one. You cry about the Saudis, the Russians, and recently the Americans. You can mitigate this by using Nuclear reactors, but you're too afraid. You can go with coal, but that's too dirty. You need to just bite the bullet and pick one.Military is another one as well. Everyone is too interested in their own individual bullshit and you all refuse to come to a consensus. Hold a fair competition for each category of equipment, pick a few, and force every country to make the same fucking model. NATO had a dozen different rifles with incompatible magazines and parts, meanwhile every combloc country made the same standard AK (not including yugos).You can't stand up to America or Russia/Soviet Union if you can't even standardize your fucking gear.
>>539461583>Europe has no beef with China whatsoeverwas it real in your head? china hurts the EU through industrial espionage, massive trade imbalances, and targeted IP theft. i never understood this made up garbage about how china is like a giant innocent teddy bear or some shit. you are retarded.
>>539461156>Likewise Russian interests should cease east of the Dniper.So Russian interests should cease inside Russia?
>>539461766Natural resources is a meme.Africa has natural resources, it's still poor as shit.Even in your pic, some states are poor and others are 3rd rate powers despite their huge size.Europe has superior production and manufacturing, so does USA, and it's the reason USA completely mogs Russia despite Russia being "the top resource rich".Raw material can easily be traded since the poorest of the world are usually the ones that has them. The only real argument here is oil which is essential for a global power-projection, but I am also not advocating for Europe becoming like America and gaining a blue-water navy of carriers. I am simply advocating for Europe to become its own geopolitical spehere.
>>539461583>Iraq 2003bad example. famously france, germany and many others refused
>>539460550>Why?Because there is no pro-european right.
>>539461891>memeflag>opinionNot responding to bot posts.
>>539462012it isn't a meme. natural resources and the means to extract them is what matters. venezuela for example has the worlds largest oil reserves, but no capability/money to extract them. >>539462038kill yourself
>>539460550>no military>no industry>no young peopleeurope is done, the best they can hope for is to become a quaint tourist destination/old folks home that makes wine and cheese and not much else. at worst they'll just become a melange of blacks and browns shitting in the ruins of once great civilisations
>>53946198495% of the Dniper runs outside Russia. It was a figure of speech.I would also like to bring Belarus into the European fold away from Russia.Their people hate their Russian puppet president.
>>539460804>Why do we refuse to militarizewe are literally militarizing as we speak
>>539462188you won't do shit>>539462173you should focus on problems inside your own border first sven, your own ruling caste has betrayed and destroyed your country. russia is the least of your problems
>>539462277>you won't do shitabout what
>>539460550Yes, Europe lost their colonies and is acting like a little child when their toys are taken away.
>>539462296rearmament. you need energy, industry, and young people. Norway is lucky enough to have 1/3 and no way to acquire the other two
>>539460550Because we lost a war to them, but in history these are often temporary conditions
>>539460550Because of anglo scum and for it to be viable the Mediterranean needs to be an European lake
>>539460550You do it faggot.It's time for Sweden to become a bigger EUropean power
>>539460550We were conquered 80 years ago
>Cause two world warsIf we don't bring Europe to heel, the entire world will be polices like the UK. I'm just not ready for that level of uppity nigger behavior.
>>539462576liberalism (and most everything else you hate about the US) is a european invention.
>>539462012I never said everyone with resources is powerful. I said you cannot be powerful without resources.>Raw material can easily be traded since the poorest of the world are usually the ones that has them.The first thing that would happen in a war is Europe would be blockaded. Without resources, Europe cannot build anything. If America sanctioned Europe like we sanction Russia, Iran, etc, Europe would be poorer than Africa.Without America's divide-and-conquer and occupation of the Middle-East, Iran or some other Middle-East Hegemon would basically be charging Eurocucks whatever they wanted for oil, and you'd be forced to pay it. The only reason Europe didn't get Morgenthau-planned after WWII is because we needed vassals to fight Russia for us. If Russia didn't exist, Europe would serve no purpose. The only reason Europe is rich now is because of the buying power of the US dollar. Which America gave Europe favorable trade deals to build them up(same with Japan and South Korea). Without America, Europe would be bankrupt and powerless. So would Japan and South Korea for that matter. Who were likewise built up by the United States to contain China.I get soo fucking tired of delusional eurocucks thinking the world is a free market and not a cartel.
>>539460804You have no technological base, no economy, no high-value human capital, no science, no culture that's relevant to people outside your borders.You will never have a serious military without those things. There's no foundation to build it on. It's like playing Age of Empires and trying to build an army without economy.
>>539460550>Why?Talmudic values.
>>539462034Maybe because pro-european rightists know having a % of outsiders is necessary to give birth to a European identity that is stronger than it's component, divisive nationalities, and that internal migration and integration between European countries has to be much higher than it's right now. It's way too early to talk about "re-migration" and everybody who is doing so with a real chance of grabbing power and having to act on it, is going against the European project.
>>539463234To put it blunty: for Europe to work as a unit and be able to have strong military/militaries without starting more world wars, we need to "muttify" into a new, European identity which doesn't exist yet. Being "French" or being "Swedish" should be as folklorish and unconsequential to being European as being "Basque" or "Venetian" are to being "Spanish" or "Italian" now, at least. We're still far from that. It's a difficult transition but it has to happen if Europe is to survive as an independent and unified power.The euro-skeptic take is that this is lunacy and we should just settle for a confederation of strong nations, which is probably a more realistic target right now. So they push for less integration.
OP is a jeet on a VPN who makes anti-Europe anti-white threads every day.
Europe is too socialist. Spending trillions on boomer pension pyramid scheme and supposedly "free" healthcare, where you'll die in a waiting list for your life-saving procedure.So there is not enough to fund a proper military, that would have some kind of projection.Even if a unified EU military was established - it would be starved of budget due to all that communist crap.This can only be fixed by throwing commies out of helicopters, Pinochet-style, but I don't see that coming any time soon.
>>539460550Blame the stupid anglo scum of the earth rape babies
>>539460596>Russialast 15 years>Americano idea>Chinait's happening right now
>>539460550Europe just has no will to power anymore. They're satisfied with being ruled by women as they fade into irrelevance
>>539464622>I don't see that coming any time soonIt's a cyclical process.The aristocracy gets too greedy, too arrogant and and too detached from reality- a peasant uprising / revolution / spring of people.
