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Are office jobs really fair to wagies who are wrecking their bodies while toiling away for 8 hours per day?

Or does it just serve the dumb goyim right for being gullible enough to opt out of getting an education
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>>539461404
for every useless employee there's a workaholic compensating by putting in 200% effort
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>>539461404
there are some blue collar jobs where you don't slave away for 8-10 hours a day. as an example, mechanics and electricians who work in factories aren't doing a whole lot until shit breaks or there's a planned project.
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>>539461404
Office jobs wreck your mind instead.
You don't want either.
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>>539461404
Office jobs wreck the body too. They cause tight hip flexors and strained lower back and carpal tunnel and weight gain/heart disease/diabetes. Plus the mental stress of having to make perfect decisions in a dynamic, competitive, fast-paced, high-stakes environment. Most blue collar work is made of already solved problems, so it's just a matter of carrying it out to fit the standard.
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>>539461564
But between doing that you're sitting in a small, noisy, poorly-ventilated psuedo-office attached to factory floor, marinating is sweat fumes of other technicians.
I've seen that, it's not good at all.
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>>539461650
All this and then the work follows you home a lot of the time since it's on a laptop.
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>>539461404
>wagie
>sitting in an office prison all day pretending to be an adult producing nothing of value
Wagies come in all flavors anon. At least some of us arent pretending. Get back to work.
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>>539461857
>producing nothing of value
they're producing so much value they get paid a full day's wages for doing 45 minutes of work.
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>>539461893
It’s because Jews don’t want them reproducing so they print the money out of thin air to pay them
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>>539461564
But they have to stay for a full day, can never pop out to do errands, their "offices" are usually just these modules pushed together

It doesn't really compare to having a central downtown office with AC, separate computer screen for browsing 4chan, flexible schedule where you decide your own hours, work from home on thursdays and fridays, etc.
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>>539461404
Nobody is forcing people to stay in blue collar professions. Go get a degree and enter the white collar workforce if you think it's so much better. And then experience the soul-sucking existential torment of the unceasing drudgery of white collar life and discover it's actually not better, just bad in a different way
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>>539461451
This. I sit in my office all day and I work non-stop. I only stop 30 minutes to eat.
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>>539461404
Yes, every week you're staging another heist and hoping it succeeds and you get paid.
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>>539461893
>45 minutes of work
There's office jobs like this and there's other office jobs where you get 12 hours work per day to do in 8 hours, because they laid half the workforce off and then expect everyone else to pick up the work of 2-3 people
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>>539461960
>office work is a jewish conspiracy
administrative and managerial jobs have existed since the dawn of civilization. the military has officers, businesses have managers and clerks, the oldest name or title in recorded history belongs to what we would call an accountant. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kushim_(Uruk_period)
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DEI rules were designed not just to get white men out of the workforce, but to also keep white women from motherhood. Alot of female office jobs are just BS work: partially from (((legal mandated))) bureaucracy and partially from make work designed to keep women away from ruining important things. I work in an engineering firm and all technical engineering is done by males, the female ones do contract management or purchasing. The tradesmen we work with are 99% male cause there's little room BS work in that field.
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>>539461404
Work day should end if we finished our work. We can come back the next day and start fresh. Sitting in the office for longer than you logically have to lowers motivation to do actual work
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>>539461404
Imagine not buying a realdoll and putting it there after you've done your work. REtarded
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>>539462360
>lowers motivation to do actual work
thats a good thing tho
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>>539461404
people love justifying their cruelty, it's a fixed behavior embedded in us, to our deaths, to our very extinction.
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>>539461404
Office work is proven to be worse than manual labour both mentally and physically.

Also, most wagies are under insane KPIs. Your image is a boomer meme of haha, I'm so smart I only work 45 mins. The smartest people I know are regularly having nervous breakdowns as management identify top performers and load their KPIs up to the gills.

There are literally apps now that calculates your actions per second like in starcraft to prove that you're working, so not only do you have to think while working, you have to fill in any time you can't make inputs with random keystrokes and mouse movements so you don't get caught by the system.

All productivity and billing systems are optimised to the hilt. There are subcategories for every sort of work imaginable with timers so I can pull up a spreadsheet anytime I want to see what exactly my employees were up to in their 8 hours and how they stack not only against the standard, but against each other.

My office had a monthly productivity ranking spreadsheet that got released each month. The bottom 20% are all issued warnings, 3 strike and you're out. The top 20% were allowed to take lollies out of the lolly jar.

The higher you go, the worse it got. I get fucked for the mistakes of people 5 reporting levels below me. I had a formal warning written up because the secretary started numbering from the contents page instead of the first page and a client complained. These reports are hundreds of pages long with thousands of stats, and are written by dozen of staff, proof checked by managers then sent to my desk for final approval.

>>539462097
I switched from white the blue and I don't feel like killing myself everyday. Cholesterol dropped to a normal range, insomnia stopped, tremors stopped, I feel like a human being again. My pay dropped 10x tho. Worth it.
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>>539462117
your scamming pajeet call center doesn't count randeep
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>>539462117
That doesn't make you a good or ethical person, it makes you a useful idiot. I don't say this to offend, I say this to help.
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>>539462629
Pretty much everyone in white collar work dreams of doing anything else. It's funny that people think it's so desirable to try to get into.
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>>539461650
>dynamic, competitive, fast-paced, high-stakes environment
this doesn't really apply to female jewish daycare jobs though
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>>539462194
he is referring to the new wave of female jewish day care jobs bro
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>>539461404
office jobs are also wrecking their bodies
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>>539462629
did you work in a call center? i'm an accounting manager. my productivity is not tabulated or tracked beyond 'does he get his work done by the deadline.' the same applies to the people who report to me.
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>>539461404
No, but there’s nothing fair about modernity when it comes to men since we live in a gynocracy forced on us by jews at the top.
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>>539461404
Work women should dress bland like that. Let them wear sexy things in the bedroom.
She can play commander keen on the office computer to pass time.
She can change history not being a whore.
Her adopted saharan child waiting at home can be fed all its kibbled
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>>539462754
I know that.
I'm just a bit autistic. I go to work to execute tasks. If I am not doing tasks, then I start to wonder why I'm there and end up hating my job.
I also find it funny when I ask for help to accomplish some tasks and I'm told they don't have time even though they chat with collegues for 30 minutes at the start of the day, take 4x15 minutes snack breaks and go out for lunch for an hour.
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>>539463037
Run up and bite their fucking faces off
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>>539462629
I went the opposite direction and transitioned from tradie->engineer. I guess the grass is always greener but I don't miss the absolute scum I used to work with, plus the physical aspect and dealing with the elements. AC and actual bathrooms are nice too, not to mention the much better pay. You're right about the mental stress being way higher in white collar but personally I'd take that over all the problems that come with working in construction. Plus when I was a tradie, my whole goal was to retire by 55 because I couldn't imagine doing that shit beyond that age (and before anyone says, I knew I was never going to be a foreman). At least you've got white collar XP so you could go back if you ever get fed up with blue collar world.
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>>539461451
Most of them quit, so entire companies just get bogged down with with people doing nothing all day.
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I'm the 200% effort guy because I don't want to interact with normgroids. They get really mad at me but I just say Fuck You and keep working. They promote each other, date each other, become one with each other. I'm just the disposable help and am okay with it because I'm getting out. The job is so beneath my dignity that it's all I think about.
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>>539461650
>Most blue collar work is made of already solved problems, so it's just a matter of carrying it out to fit the standard.

Never worked in a fab shop. True for Unions though, but once again, you can just sit on your ass and let Joe do all the work because getting fired is impossible.
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>>539463259
Have sex incel
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>>539462629
Now this sounds like an adult daycare. If you are actually valuable to your company they work to keep you happy, not test your sanity. Some days I barely do anything, place couldn't fire me if they wanted to (I wrote about half the software that they run on)
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>>539463259
>The job is so beneath my dignity that it's all I think about.
I know that feeling
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>>539463037
>If I am not doing tasks, then I start to wonder why I'm there and end up hating my job.
I was exactly like this before I got a 100% WFH position. Then, at first, I was like that at home too. Now I sometimes jerk off during work hours because I can. Performance review yesterday said I am doing well and everybody likes me. Life is good.
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>>539463259
You sound like every retarded bipolar dumbass i ever worked with that thinks they are way more important than they really are and get canned because yoj disrupt the the restnof the workforce with your paranoid horseshit
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Office jobs are highly sought after. Getting one is like winning the lotto.
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>>539461650
oh my god shut the fuck up
15 minutes of stretching before you head to work
15 minutes of cardio and some weightlifting afterwards
how 90% of office health problems gone
it's not the office causing their fucked up bodies, it's them being fat useless fucks inside and outside of work

>Most blue collar work is made of already solved problems.
You've never had to drill upwards through 8 inches of solid concrete in a 60-year old insane asylum, or fix phones in a max security prison.
It's fun when you're young, but sitting in a cozy office all day pretending to work is better in every way, even the pay.

Women should be banned from voting and barred from the workplace, full stop.
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>>539461404
Wish I could get a job like this.
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>>539463259
I've been here too. I've told this story a million times here. Worked in a research lab doing their data analysis, the literal jew lab manager and business owner were such colossal faggots that I quit to work part-time somewhere else.
>wanted to eat lunch with you every single day
>wanted you to listen to their inane stories all fucking day
>general neurotic faggots that would spend the whole day pissed off if any one little thing went wrong
>veritably castrated by their wives, but wore it as a badge of masculinity
They're hypernormies. People like this get pissed off that you're reading on your lunch break because WOW YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME and also WHY AREN'T YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO ME

It's okay to hate them
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>>539463482
This is what everyone wants, but these jew daycare jobs only get handed to women and DEI pets
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>>539463769
Please refrain from using incelistic verbiage.
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>>539463447
>pretending to work
If you had ever worked a white collar job, you would know how idiotic this belief is. Some white collar jobs, the work never stops all day, and there's so much to do, there's not even time for lunch, you eat at your desk. Some white collar jobs even have on-call out of hours, so you get the delightful scenario of getting woken up at 3AM and having to attend to incidents while half asleep
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I deliver mail in a resort area. I just walk around putting paper in boxes and and checking out women.
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>>539463584
>YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME and also WHY AREN'T YOU PAYING ATTENTION TO ME

Basically the entirety of autistic experience with normies. You can't have any hobbies or achieve anything because it makes them insecure and they go into sabotage mode.
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>>539463447
>15 minutes of stretching before you head to work
>15 minutes of cardio and some weightlifting afterwards
its crazy how much difference this makes. I used to think my body is trashed already from years of negligence in the exercise department (mid 30s normal BMI), but just doing these little things daily improved almost every aspect of my life.

we are monkeys
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>>539463259
i dont like interacting with normgroids either but you sound like a cuck
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>>539461451
This

>>539462117
Same, and I hate this. It appears that what matter in the office is who is best in socializing and telling the best jokes, not who is the most efficient and productive. Managers are fucking retards. I hate boomers.

>>539462754
That's exactly the problem in our society. We could live in an utopia, if everyone would work for a greater goal, but the average Joe is a fucking retarded lazy ass and there are also hordes of incompetent but cheap shitskins.
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>>539462629
You couldn't pay me to play dance monkey for some corporations new kosher "productivity" metrics
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>>539461404
imagine peeling off her crusty panties, taking a look at it, and then telling her nah, thanks.
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>>539461451
Office work is hell in its own way, because the work never stops. I worked from 8AM to 10:30PM yesterday in my "comfy office job". They let me work from home because it was incredibly demoralizing for me to leave the office past sunset all of the time. I have negotiated 1.5x overtime because I work over 200 hrs a month.
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>>539461404
>Finished my work in 45 mins
>still expects to get paid for 8 hrs of work
Hell nah.
HR can go ahead and reduce Headcount then, as there's clearly not enough tasking.

Dumb bitch
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>>539462629
I'm being released medically from the military in a 'white collar' equivalent position.

It is soul sucking. I'm looking forward to my release. Only question is now what do I do after? I'm 42 and will have a nice pension. I can be a military civilian doing the same shit I was doing, which I don't hate but have no passion for (logistics).
Or I can start a new career. At 42, my body is OK, but I'm not a young buck and I'm not willing to destroy my vitality. I also get like 30 months of paid schooling at my salary. Are there any trades I can get into that are somewhat easy on the body? The college here has programs for everything.
Surveying?
NDT?
Any tips from the crowd here? I speak French too so I'll probably take the Fed Gov job since it's rare to be bilingual in my region and will be a priority hire. But I am seriously open to trades that won't be replaced by AI, have a physical component but won't break my body if that's even a thing.
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>>539463352
>Performance review yesterday said I am doing well and everybody likes me. Life is good.
You kept your camera on and really impressed everyone. Congrats Anon.
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>>539464779
No I never do I mostly work shirtless even.
also, >>539464707
Operating Engineer
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>>539461404
I wish I had an office job. I hate slaving away for me sheckleburg as a wagie. I even put in 70 hour work weeks sometimes. Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime
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>>539461404
>fair
That is a (you) problem. Women and low-T cucks have no ambition, this is why they go for the bullshit-job trap, and waste their youth and fertility in the goy corporate cage.
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>>539464576
>I have negotiated 1.5x overtime
Isn't 1.5x for anything over 40 legally required? I know salary people can be exempt but if you get it at all you're not so that doesn't matter.
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I just got laid off from my cushy office job
But I feel like they'll call me back once the updates to their CAD libraries stop happening
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ohhh no poor office jobs anon,have to sit on computer for 8 hours :(
meanwhile only work here is 12h shifts with hohols or some yellow philiphina monkeys for 3700zł+200 bonus month
fuck you western cuck i hope you die
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>>539463930
I did work a white collar job, I was a data analyst in a research lab. The only thing that makes white collar work suck is the actual fucking kikes you have to work with, and women.
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>>539465199
Yeah long story short I do something involving running a special machine on the railroad for a contractor. I always heard the company charged an insane amount for the machine but when I finally got a concrete answer I found out that machine makes roughly three weeks worth of my pay... every day.
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>>539465814
aka upper management and HR
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>>539464241
Based Austrian primate. If you aren't already aware, look into the 80/20 rule. Not for hypergamy, just in general, kek.

The majority of exercise benefits (about 80%) can be gained for just 20% of the effort. This goes for weight lifting, cardio, stretching, etc. Even for something like fighting. If you do a year of boxing and a year of wrestling you can beat the shit out of 80% of people on the planet simply because nobody else does it.
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>>539461404
would you prefer h1b visa taking that job fucking jew?
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>>539461404
It's bad, but not as bad as male pornstars making bank while incels break their back in the trades, or zogbots making $6k a month in 100% disability. We need to kill god ASAP for letting this happen.
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>>539464707
I don't know what it's like in leafland, but my brother basically lived off the government (comfortably) for four years while going back to school. He fucked it up with his whore wife who burned through all of his money, but that's besides the point. He got enough schooling to do biomedical technician work, which is supposed to be pretty chill and pays well. Maybe look into doing biomedical repair. There's always Boomers dying and niggers getting stabbed, so the machine break often enough that they need you.
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>>539464580
They won't because this is the point. It's jew day care for women. it gives them a huge salary and a title that inflates their ego, suddenly they're too good for any man, and they don't have kids. Then they get replaced by jeets and niggers.

This is all intentional.
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>>539461404
Office jobs will be decimated by AI over the next 10-15 years. Won't need these types of people to click mouses anymore.
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>>539461404
Only browns work heavy labor
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>>539466246
finance and data analyst types will be hit the hardest
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>>539461718
>>539461451
All jobs are a prison.

There is no bigger proof of slavery than the fact that the wagie still needs stay there doing nothing, even when the employer doesn't need him, only because the employer already "bought" that time, while they are also paying for more time than they already need.

The wagie could be doing something good for his mental health, or doing something for himself, like his laundry on his home, but god forbid the wagie does something for him on the time that I paid! He belongs to me in these hours! I paid for it! Meanwhile the same employers hire people for far more time than they really need. Like demanding 8h for a job that require 3h.

Its not about production, its about control and humiliation.
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>>539461404
Office more like orifice
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>>539466474
>The wagie could be doing something good for his mental health, or doing something for himself, like his laundry on his home
Shit takes 10 minutes at most.
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>>539464364
I was labeled a bad "team-worker" because I told a girl wasting 2 hours a day I wouldn't help her do her work after she complained she didn't have enough time to do all her tasks.
Recently, she asked for a solution to a problem she created by not doing her job. Told her if she didn't mess around, we wouldn't be in that situation.
Still waiting for a HR meeting for that one.
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>>539466567
You are missing the point on purpose.
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>>539466691
If you didnt mess around, you wouldnt be in this situation.
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>>539466699
Most people devoid pf responsibility will just watch Netflix, like what happened during covid.
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>>539461404
Good girl
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>>539461404
I'm a painter and sometimes I paint office interiors like break rooms and whatnot. It's fucking hilarious. Imagine like a sea of cubicles, and you're looking out over the top of them all because you're on a step ladder. The second you make any abnormal sound, heads start popping up out of the cubicles like Prairie Dogs. It's so funny I laughed out loud the first time I saw it.
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>>539465530
I declined a salary and requested to be coded as an hourly employee for the overtime, as my company does not pay overtime to salaried employees. Salaried employees also do not accrue vacation hours but are instead on a "flex time" system that requires managerial approval, while I now accrue time that cannot be denied by my manager. The downside is they work me like a dog so vacation is quite hard to plan for, but at least I know when I decide to take one, they cannot tell me no.
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>>539461404
no, they aren't fair.
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>>539466723
Well yeah, I did fuck up my life. However, I don't ask others for help to fix my own mistakes.
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>>539464576
This sounds like an unqualified office job
OP is about qualified office jobs
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>>539461451
This, I was doing this at one of my old jobs propping up a useless middle-aged woman on my "team" who couldn't be bothered doing her job and a boomer male.
That companies circling the drain now so there's that.

Never again.
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>>539466567
Childless faggot kys
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>>539466951
No, it's just that there are some office jobs where you actually have to work and some are simply there to make the company look more legit to investors/for tax reasons.
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>>539462629
>>539463196
Also a techie to engineer. Sounds like you should have switched companies, not careers. All that tracker shit goes away when you aren't part of the top 40 engineering firms or working defense.
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>>539466936
>However, I don't ask others for help to fix my own mistakes.
Your comments to her were equally unproductive, anon. Would you rather have someone that has 90% of your performance but doesnt see communiation between co workers as an outlet to voice their frustration about another persons choices? Document it properly and dont react like a child.
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>>539466246
honestly? good. but why are execs supposedly immune to this shit? they're even more worthless than OP's wage cuck.
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My last 3 jobs I have had "core hours" where I have to be available either in the office or at home (by phone, email) from 09-17, but most actual work I finish before my first break
>09 arrive
>10 finished work
>10-11 mandatory fika with everyone
>12-13 lunch
>idle
>15-16 fika
>reply to emails regarding issues for tomorrow's work
>17 home

Of course the older you are the more flexible the schedule becomes
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>>539467145
Like I've said, I'm autistic.
I didn't vent out, I explained to her, calmly, it was her own fault.
I know I should document it and I'm a sperg.
That's why I expect a HR meeting.
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All in service to the great global nation comrades
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>>539467091
Well, yeah? You think I have the time, money, or space for an anthropoid?
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>>539463584
>WOW YOU THINK YOU'RE BETTER THAN ME
I got that one for always backing into parking spaces. I simply replied "Yes".
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>>539467180
execs are the ones setting it up so they can rake in the cash from a fully automated workforce
a wretched combo of MBA psycopaths and wikipedia Early Life types
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>>539461404
Why do right wing tradies seethe at office wagies when they fear a mexican will take his job? Do you want them all to be AI'd and competing in your sector?
I'm not an electrician but I've rewired my house, none of this shit is hard to learn.
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>>539467244
Just letting the anons who haven't figured out what a fucking fraud you are yet know that you should be ignored.
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>>539467328
because the are right to seethe. most office wagies need to be culled (incl management).
not all of them are, but most are.
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>>539467233
Fair enough. If everyones brain worked like yours the world would function better.
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>work remotely (Japan only due to tax bullshit)
>no set hours
>just be on for meetings
>just meet deadlines (which I set myself)
>maybe twice a year I get woken up at midnight because incompetent fucks on the opposite timezone can't figure shit out
>90k usd a year, not including other benefits, pension
>cost of living has plummeted to nothing ever since I moved out of Tokyo, able to save over 50% of my income
>home gym
>riverside cycling paths
>cook at home, sometimes with ingredients from my garden
If this is what it means to be a gullible goyim, then I'm the luckiest and most gullible goyim of them all. That said, with the amount I'm saving, the goal is still to eventually get out of the rat race.
Pic rel is my view on my dusk cycling ride.
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>>539467315
how long will ((shareholders)) play along though? eventually someone will demand an AI CEO I'd imagine. doesn't take a fucking genius to write shitty linkedin posts and dogshit powerpoint slides.
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>>539467387
I'm not a fraud. I'm the most authentic poster on this board.
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>>539467448
shareholders are boomers who will demand a human face to smile at them and take them out for fancy dinners
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>>539466691
A good 80% of payed workload these days is just running cover for retards. God help you if you don't.
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>>539464707
Plumber.

You get shit days digging trenches and shovelling, but it's always inbetween nice relaxed days where you just do actual plumbing - plumb in pipes, install new hardware, etc.

The one where you have to fix exploded toilets are emergency plumbers who make infinite money, but it's a shit job not because of the actual shit, but shift work destroys you mind and body very quick, you're ex military you should know.

Electrician is completely flooded with Normie white collar nubs looking for an in to blue collar, it'll soon be lowest pay hardest to find work and all sparkies are gay no exceptions.

Chippy you need actual muscle, brains and balls, the work is just being strong in a smart way. It's actually ok if they don't rush you, but every other job you're under pressure to finish before other tradies arrive, so you rush and destroy your body.

All other trades are shit. Boilermaker is lung cancer. Concreters get paid on number of years they went to jail for. Mechanics have shit pay and will eventually be obselete.
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>>539467591
>Concreters get paid on number of years they went to jail for.
Ironworkers too. Lmao.
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>>539467448
I'd imagine forever, since they'd perceive the CEO as part of their caste and be a little wary of targeting someone in that caste, since that makes the entire caste a possible target, including themselves. If they all pretend together that an AI can't possibly do an exec's job (so let's not even try), that feels a lot safer for all of them.

Targeting W-2 employees is fine in their book because some part of the C-suite mind has already decided W-2 employees aren't fully human; they choose to be cogs when they take the wagie job instead of starting their own business or being born rich or whatever.
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>>539461650
My moms friends husband is a spinal sergeon. After 30 years even he got really bad carpultunnel and needed an operation after years of making fine inscisions on patients for 12 hours a day
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>>539467591
>Electrician is completely flooded with Normie white collar nubs looking for an in to blue collar, it'll soon be lowest pay hardest to find work and all sparkies are gay no exceptions.
somewhat true unless you get into the real scary high voltage stuff
but of all the trades, electrical work is the easiest on your body
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>>539467875
He doesnt seem very happy
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>>539466951
When you say unqualified, are you referring to jobs that do not require higher education? I can confirm that my job requires a 4 year CS degree.
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>>539467591
>looking for an in to blue collar
What sort of delusion is this
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>>539467915
The anglosphere has gotten worse than you can imagine. It's accurate.
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>>539467534
lies, I am
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>>539461404
It's called "risk aversion". Almost 100% of normies are afraid of risk (any kind), so they choose the "easy" route and just want to mindlessly execute their role without having to think if their salary is going to drop or not at the end of the month. This creates the goyim trap, and puts the jew/employer in a position of advantage. That is why jobs are crumbling right now, the employer takes all the risk always and this capitalist "paradise" for passive parasites is coming to an end thanks to professional cultural shift (new gen of bosses are all individualistic assholes) + AI advancing fast af booooiii
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>>539468009
No one knows who you are.
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>>539461451
I used to be that person. I stopped like 2 years ago. my boss is secretly cut but cannot do anything. they will be gone soon
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>>539467901
thats because he had to drive the company truck 8 hours away to go work in an equipment room with no air conditioning and put on that heavy arcflash suit to flip a switch on some giant transformer that could vaporize him
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>>539467915
>>539468006
I've done 20 years of white collar. Basically looking for ways I can use my experience to get into trades. Problem is I know fuck all about trades other than the logistics side of lining shit up so I'm thinking I should stick to what I know.
>>539467591
I curl with a guy who has a plumbing business. He does new home installs etc, not an emergency guy. But it gets cold AF here in the winter and it doesn't sound like he has a lot of fun during those months. Not opposed to it. I'll talk to him, but he'll talk me out of it.
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>>539467244
If you are brown, or with a brown woman, we all hope you don't. If you are white, and with a white woman, father a white kid asap no matter what.
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>>539468202
I'm 51. I ain't got the energy for an anthro.
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>>539468277
your loss
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>>539468331
He streams video games for a "living" and constantly posts the most idiotic trash here, it's probably for the best that his example doesn't pass to the next generation
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>>539463447
>oh my god shut the fuck up
Greetings, foid!
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>>539468198
These job threads always have a "grass is greener" thing. Blue Collar guys wanting to work inside in the AC doing a 45 minute email job (Most officr jobs are not like that) and then White Collar guys wants to run away from the AC and sitting all day to being outside a sweat, but honestly the Blue Collar jobs dont let you take your time, its always go, go, go, unleas you have one of those drilling jobs then is wait, wait, wait, for 12+ hours a day in the middle of fucking no where, but hey... Get to be on your phone all day while the rig does all the work
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>>539468397
I don't post trash. Order up.
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>>539468198
> I'm thinking I should stick to what I know.
You likely should. They're trying to shoehorn poos into everything, I'm an ironworker, ever see a poo do ironwork? Oh but you can't belittle them not being able to lift 20lbs. No no, that'll cost you your contract.
Frankly with your set up with pension and school funding you may want to look into business and boot up your own consulting service. Less drudge, get a better supplemental, and pick the jobs you want. The pension should insulate you for the rough patches nicely.
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Yeah but you just did (again)
Put a shotgun in your mouth and pull the trigger faggot
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>>539463037
>I also find it funny when I ask for help to accomplish some tasks and I'm told they don't have time even though they chat with collegues for 30 minutes at the start of the day, take 4x15 minutes snack breaks and go out for lunch for an hour
The vast majority of normalfags are like that.
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I'm please to announce the obsessed bromosexual loser has been charged with treason and is awaiting sentencing. Thank you for your time and attention to this matter. -BR
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>>539466732
OH NO! we need to keep wagies imprisioned in cubicles doing nothing all day, inhaling factory fumes, othwerwise they will, good forbid, have fun. Wagies having fun and doing what they want after the work is done! Can you imagine!

Thanks for proving me right kike.
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>>539463873
Based.
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>>539468627
Not a kike. You posted nonsense. Order up.
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>office jobs
>wrecking their bodies while toiling away 8 hours per day
Pick one
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>>539468080
you're just a namefag

I am effluous and obscure, real yet intangible

my posts gave life to this board while yours kill it.
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>>539468820
Based
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>>539468736
>nonsese
Even a retard could have understood that.

>not a kike
A kike golem, like all americans.
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>>539468743
I got fatter and developed posture issues but that's all on me
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>>539468963
Diet, exercise (cardio), sunshine, and water
t. video games industry since 2012
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>>539461650
Dealing with a "solved problem" that's just the same thing every single day while also being physically exhausted all the time is 100% worse than having an "unsolved problem" that you can solve.
The boomer radio only has so much information on it and you can't actually think while doing these repetitive solved motions, you have to pay attention at least a little or some minor flaw in your form will ruin the work + your wrists.
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>>539468820
No. Seek mental help. Order up.
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>>539464707
>>>>>>>>>>Surveying
You will walk 10-15 miles a day repeatedly rain or shine, goodbye knees.
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>>539461404
>finished my work in 45
Just proof that office jobs have been fake for a long time.

I run a small business (0 employees) and if i ever needed an employee you can bet that their services would be needed every minute they're on the clock.

>I did my work in 45 minutes
There are so many employees there that no one (not even managers) feel the need to keep workers busy.

This bitch probably makes $150k to work 5 hours a week sending emails, while men have to work much harder for much less money.

This shit is destroying society. Those women demand a man making $200k, but those jobs are being given to women ....because.
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>>539468445
https://gazette.gc.ca/rp-pr/p1/2026/2026-07-18/html/reg1-eng.html
Fake & Gay Canada is forcing federally regulated businesses which include:
air transportation, including airlines, airports, aerodromes and aircraft operations
banks, including authorized foreign banks
grain elevators, feed and seed mills, feed warehouses and grain-seed cleaning plants
First Nations band councils and Indigenous self-governments (certain activities). For help in determining jurisdiction of Indigenous organizations, refer to: Guide on jurisdiction of Indigenous organizations
most federal Crown corporations, for example, Canada Post Corporation
port services, marine shipping, ferries, tunnels, canals, bridges and pipelines (oil and gas) that cross international or provincial borders
postal and courier services
radio and television broadcasting
railways that cross provincial or international borders and some short-line railways
road transportation services, including trucks and buses, that cross provincial or international borders
telecommunications, such as, telephone, Internet, telegraph and cable systems
uranium mining and processing and atomic energy
any business that is vital, essential or integral to the operation of one of the above activities

I know French enough to pass their standards. Maybe I should go work for a CHUG reserve or band or some shit. Maybe mining, lot's of money there.
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>>539469059
>this nigger gets up at 7am on a thursday to post for 3 hours
lmao kill yourself
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>>539463037
>take 4x15 minutes snack breaks and go out for lunch for an hour.
fat bastards
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>>539462629
>The smartest people I know are regularly having nervous breakdowns as management identify top performers and load their KPIs up to the gills.
Yeah you fucking know why? Because every legal firm, big four bank, every other big established corporate entity in Australia's funny money economy 90% hires women and dumb as shit brown people that do all of their jobs by plugging it into Google Gemini now. Maybe if they would give me training and a fucking job they wouldn't have to do that.
>>539462832
I've spoken to accountants at places like KPMG they too complain that they have like 2x the workload of 10 years ago (provided they are actually competent). This is genuinely just an Australian problem of trying to wring as much value out of as few productive people as possible while millions of shitskins pump useless boomer bags by waking up at 10 am and attending their 1 class a week visa course and Sharon goes on long service leave for the 10th time this year.
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>>539469214
>>this nigger gets up at 7am
I've been up since 4am for newsprep for my streams. Order up.
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>>539467448
The point of having a CEO is that if the business fails it was his fault, since he did so horribly he gets a severance package and gets to be CEO at another company, and now all the flaws in your model don't matter because it was just the CEO's fault (he is now CEO at an even bigger company after this "poor performance")
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>>539469137
>You will walk 10-15 miles a day repeatedly rain or shine
That's the one thing I am good at at least. I wasn't a combat guy, but I'm a marathoner and hiker and so far so good one the joints because I wear good shit and took time to stretch, etc.
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>>539469158
>This shit is destroying society.
it cant last for much longer. There is only so much more they can squeeze out of white men, and they need more and more every year with how compounding interest works.
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>>539461451
She's a woman. She didn't get hired to work, she got hired to protect the company from discrimination lawsuits.
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>>539466474
>companies should just pay employees 8 hours even if they only did 1 hour and went home
You're being even more retarded than the companies.

Paying someone for 8 hours and keeping them there for 8 hours is less retarded than paying them for 8 hours but letting them leave after 1 hour.

You're retarded. The only logical solution would be to pay them for 1 hour if they only worked 1 hour.

Ok, go home and do your laundry, you're off the clock and not getting paid. In what universe does it make sense for the company to pay 8 hrs for only 1 hour of work while you play video games and fuck off?

Yes, the employer *did* buy your time. The employer is stupid if they bought time they don't need, but it would be buttfuckingly retarded to pay you while you just hang out at home.
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>>539469273
>long service leave
wtf is this? an australian thing?
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>>539469302
If you don't think that will destroy your body go for it then, that's pretty much your job as a surveyor. You learn the equipment and procedures after a couple years, they just stop being hard, and the job becomes walking through swamps and over mountains and through people's backyards drawing unimportant lines on unimportant maps.

Dad was a surveyor for like 40 years, the pay was never good at any point but the job itself wasn't hard, and actually lost all its challenge after a few years.
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>>539461404
She gets paid doing nothing probably triple what some guys get doing backbreaking physical labor and she probably still wants a guy that makes more than her
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>>539469292
based failing upwards
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>>539469520
so how do we stop this nonsense?
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>>539466474
Yeah it's feudalism but normalfags unironically enjoy it because they exist to serve a master and want to be used. Set them free an they become suicidal.
>>539469405
You pay people for the work they provide, not the amount of hours it took, pickle licker.
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>>539469520
>She gets paid doing nothing probably triple what some guys get doing backbreaking physical labor and she probably still wants a guy that makes more than her
of course she does, why would she want a retard who does more for less?
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>>539469180
It would give you a leg up for sure, but I've worked a lot of those jobs, all of them are quite gay. Mining you still have to know someone to get in. But it's actually not terrible. Air traffic control might be a good one if you're actually smart. But that's also stressful as fuck. Stay far far away from the rez man. 'Member those water treatment plants? I've been on a few of those projects. Scary shit in the far north. They'll try to pimp their 10 year old daughter to you for a beer.
As always it's you do you, in my experience if you're already feeling burned, a career swap and/or more money isn't going to help. Least of all in Cuckistan.
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>>539469425
It's for ham boulder single mothers who never ever get fired from their fake government-funded "business analysis and stakeholder relationship liason" job where their work consists of moving around values on a spreadsheet or in CRM sotware and maybe answering a few calls and emails each day (not yours, lol). Sometimes their entire job consists of being fake managers who audit the work of a tiny number of other people in the public service full-time, whenever they feel like it or if someone needs the to do something actually useful. These are the only new jobs that have been created in Australia since the pandemic according to government statistics, and everything adjecent to this shit (rail, postal) has been completely filled with Indians and Nigerians from random fucking parts of the world. In Sydney the train driver is always impossible to understand when he announces the stop because it's always some brown mudskin woman yelling into a speaker system that would not even exist were it not for White male ingenuity. I don't know when the vote was on using up all our productivity and civic good will on having a completely empty economy that just siphons resources off to everyone but White males, but that's what we decided on.

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>>539469018
thats too much work i prefer slop, booze, and chill
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>>539461650
Cope, get a standing desk and a kettle bell, bitch.
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>>539461650
That’s called fat butt disease. Sitting on your biscuit, never having to risk it.
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>>539469974
*They go on leave whenever they feel like it or if someone needs them to do something actually useful.
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>>539466474
>Its not about production, its about control and humiliation.
Honestly true. The goal is to keep the peasants occupied so they don't sit around thinking about how they could do a better job than TPTB, or talking to each other about how they're getting fucked, or meddling in politics, etc. So we have to spend 8+ hours a day having our mental energy drained to keep us burnt out and docile.
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>>539470246
Also probably why your country keeps making scientists study things like propulsion commit suicide with 5 gunshot wounds to the back of the head in an empty parking lot. Technology is just at the productivity point where we can have algorithmic constant-surveillance Jewish slavery, Tikkum Olam flooding the Earth with brown human shit like a toilet bowl to live like even more degraded slaves and managed decline so all the gentiles can be truly brought to their knees and enslaved by the "prince of peace" kike "moshiach". I cannot legally tell you what the solution to this would be.
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>>539469405
maybe if you're an hourly cuck. salary slaves aren't paid by the hour.
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>>539461404
There isnt enough jobs to go around, they tried work sharing first but tradies didnt like the idea of working half the time for half the pay. So they made fake work jobs cause they needed the masses still being distracted consumers that are competed for through education and willingness to adopt their cookie cutter lifestyle.

Why the solution is follows
Take every low skill position, like cleaning toilets, and put them on one large job board. People roll on timeslots. But the key is this, instead of ubi, the first hour worked is like $1500 an hour, but the second is $1450, and it continues to decrease till $0.0005 an hour. So even a millionare would fimd it veneficial tp clean a couple toilets and those who want more money grind against the diminsishing returns
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>>539469890
>you pay people for the work they provide
But those workers are *pretending* that the work they do takes all 8 hours.

THAT is why the company isn't giving them more work. The company already thinks the employees have a full day of work to do, and OF COURSE the employees are happy to PRETEND that they are working the whole time.

Notice that none of these office people tell their manager they are done after 1 hour and they need more work?
Employees are playing the lazy bullshit game of trying to do as little work as possible.

I'm pretty sure almost every company would find some more work for those employees
>but I don't want to do any more work!
So it sounds like you are just trying to get away with doing 1 hour of work while getting paid for 8.

Lazy, dishonest employees working for a company too big to monitor their employees effectively. Both sides share blame, but only the employees are ACTIVELY trying to get away with bullshit.

IF YOU DON'T TELL YOUR MANAGER THAT YOU FINISHED ALL YOUR WORK AND CAN HANDLE MORE WORK THEN YOU ARE THE PROBLEM!!!
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>>539470449
It will get worse before it gets better, I'm afraid.
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>>539469974
>>539470196
that sounds fucking retarded and im amazed your system is shitty enough to allow these women to genuinely use this leave multiple times a year. i moved to a corporate after working in investment banking for 6 years and it is incredible how many fucking people here have "jobs" yet i have no idea wtf they do on a daily basis. sometimes i ask what do you do and they basically say buzz words but i know what they mean is "i send a few emails a week and send a weekly spreadsheet around where i all did was change the date". truly bizarre. we also have so many "committees" filled with women who are supposedly meant to make decisions on various items/internal projects and they literally don't do anything nor do i ask the right questions. all a sham. thankfully there are basically zero jeets in my company but the productivity levels of women in the west and jeets are no different
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>>539463315
They probably could now. It's insane what LLMs can do, but an experienced systems architect/designer will still run laps around a vibe coder.
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>>539471272
*nor do THEY ask the right questions
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>>539467591
>Electrician is completely flooded with Normie white collar nubs looking for an in to blue collar, it'll soon be lowest pay hardest to find work and all sparkies are gay no exceptions.

Facts plus everyone hates us
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>>539469289
stop posting and kill yourself faggot

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>>539472059
lol
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>>539471272
I was on the train today and I overheard some random brown guy hired by a big bank's investments division here bragging to his friend over the phone that he was called up by a bunch of women in a committee like you're talking about, demanded to shit out a whole report proving that what he was doing was productive, and when he just submitted a whole report made entirely by AI and they couldn't even tell the difference he concluded lol what's the point you never get recognition for these projects anyway. Then I overheard some 17 year old lanky Chinese dudes on HGH bragging about how they did their whole chemistry assignments with Deepseek and the teachers gave up on even policing it. The future is so bright you won't need eyes to see it. The reason LLMs have been deemed worthy of such a cargo cult with trillions invested into it in the first place is because the entire political economy of the West is feudal level fucking retarded and also entrenched because surveillance technologies are now too good to overthrow it. It's like all the real productivity was outsourced to brownlandia (including reproducing new baby taxcattles for the West) so we can now sacrifice everything to mammon and Jewish technofeudalism for a few generations without factoring in the pesky constraints of having to make anything. The whole thing is a ritual of domination and humiliation.
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>>539462117
Lol fag
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>>539461451
This. I’m doing the work of four people, and we can’t hire anyone or get additional pay for the extra work we are doing. It’s to the point that I can’t even take a day off without being buried in work when I return to the office.
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>>539472059
Cant. Too important. Order up.

>>539472362
Thanks. I forgot about that one. Will use again.
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>>539472806
>demanded to shit out a whole report proving that what he was doing was productive
holy kek. this one sentence describes all that is wrong with women in the workforce. "hey you aren't being productive at all, i want you to write a big report on how you are actually being productive instead of doing your real work and being productive in the normal sense... proceeds to not even spot AI slop"
>because the entire political economy of the West is feudal level fucking retarded
look i by no means think im super smart or above people but this is so true. governments and big corps are run by some of the most inept people ever. and im talking people who even in simple situations can't see the common sense solution. most of the time it is because they would either over complicate something or choose to take the path of least attrition as they can't be fucked. it really is a humiliation ritual. im 30 and seeing so many retards springboard their way up ladders (and a surprising number of women in senior positions with little experience or acumen)
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I went to college, so I earned my place. I do IT work for a mid sized top 1000 company in Cali. We get things done. Work from home. Nobody gives me lip. I look down on laborers. It's work for brown people and rednecks.
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>>539469405
>The only logical solution would be to pay them for 1 hour if they only worked 1 hour.
I never said they should pay for hours not worked. Crushing majority of employers do not give the workers even the chance of working less hours, like getting the job done and then going home. They pay for the person to stay 8h there, regardless of actual demand (they don't even care about saving money). Or don't let people do personal things at the office, even when the work is done.

>inb4 "b-b-ut workers would stays more hours than needed to earn more"
Not if they paid living wages that could afford rent and groceries.
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90% of office work doesn't even have to exist. It was created by morons so they can justify their existence.
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>>539473245
Plenty wouldn't even read the report. It's all about power.
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>>539461404
sitting on their ass toiling away shit, what are you talking about. total wagie death these idiots cant build up their own business they get way too much.

theyre all a bunch of bottom feeders. you will know your place very soon.
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>>539470602
If a worker is hired to make spreadsheets and he finished his work, why should he clean the bathrooms or do something else? He is not paid for that, that was not the agreement whe he was hired. Is the employer job to see if he is keeping his part of doing the spreadsheets and that is it. The worker is not going to tell his boss that he finished early, because he doesn't get to go home early anyway, but instead, is punished with stuff beyond his responsabilities.

Perhaps the employers should reward people for being efficient. What a crazy idea.
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>>539474024
the only power women should have is over the stove making me dinner tbqh (though even that i am probably superior than the average woman at cooking given ive been doing it all my life kek)
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>>539461404
the cushy office job is the reward to the roastie who did what they were told exactly how they were told for 16+ years.
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>>539474655
You would think that ideally, since women are mainly good at menial tasks and shitting out babies, the point of their existence should be to create more time for men to do more complex and demanding tasks in order to innovate and create cool things (by creating more male lives and freeing men from having to do shit like cook and clean toilets), but instead we live in a bizarro world where you have to go to work to have women in a Jewish daycare be paid to tell you what to do and not breed, and then if you're in a relationship go home and have a woman nag at you because it's illegal to slap her around a little or even "coercively control" her some other bullshit way like stopping her from spending your joint bank account on ubereats for 3 meals a day + brunch. We have truly turned this world into hell
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>>539474146
>being intentionally retarded
Why the fuck are you talking about a Mr Spreadsheet-maker cleaning toilets? You're intentionally being a shitskinned retard.

>be employee
>main job is spreadsheets
>finish in 1 hour
There is always organizing/paperwork/shredding/etc that can be done.

Also it fails to address my point: if you finish your work in 1 hour BUT YOU DON'T TELL YOUR BOSS, AND YOU PRETEND TO BE WORKING THE OTHER 7 HOURS THEN YOU'RE NOT EVEN GIVING THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE YOU 8 HOURS OF WORK.

You are being dishonest by pretending 1hr of work took 8 hours. You are dishonestly pretending that they don't have more legitimate work for you to do.

These people are deliberately giving their employer the impression that they are working for 8 hours SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE THEY DON'T ACTUALLY WANT MORE WORK TO DO.

They like ripping off the company, and they like rubbing it in people's face that they get a nice paycheck for only doing 5 hours of work weekly.

Horrible people with horrible morals and values
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>>539475252
You're not far off

>be told to sleep around
>be told to get tats
>be told to abort kids
>be told to take prescription meds
>be told to go to college and do all the previous things even more
>be told to hate all the groups that the government and corporate America wants destroyed
They really are being rewarded for being soldiers for the Synagogue of Satan's takeover of the world.
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A lot of us did waste a small fortune on college only to find that the jobs don't exist.

I think the problem is a lot more systemic than 'we opted out of higher education'
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>>539461404
Well, wagies in cagies hates AI and NEETs loves AI.
One is the slaves of AI so they naturally hates AI as it replaces their wageslaving jobs while the other is the masters of AI that beat the shit out of AI to it's fullest potential for their hobbies and life.
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>>539473332
College didn't do a fucking thing for you. Establishment simp. If you're smart you will create your own business instead of slapping yourself on the back for being a wagecuck retard that bought into the college meme.
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>>539475638
It wasn't office work but I have a buddy who actually did get fired for finishing all his work in like 1-2 hours and then not looking busy enough afterwards. He got hired for a forklift role but the business hadn't even fully set up its HQ in that city so everyone was just sitting there with their dicks in their hands while the necessary things got imported from interstate/chinklandia. If you didn't look busy enough or asked for something to do, the demented boomer boss would just make you sweep the floor all day. He eventually fired my buddy because he wasn't good enough at pretending to be busy and some other asshurt wagie who actually did have more to do noticed and complained. It's like this everywhere, I see unionised construction workers on years-long rail improvement projects literally shovelling dirt back and forth in their excavators.

>You are being dishonest by pretending 1hr of work took 8 hours. You are dishonestly pretending that they don't have more legitimate work for you to do.
The system is run by such unfathomably retarded boomers there isn't any. What should these people do when their wage hasn't kept track with Jewish money-printing and the inflation of housing costs for decades? Get paid for 1 hour and live out of a cardboard box because Bangladeshi slaves are doing actual manufacturing for Jews for pennies and the West was deindustrialised and flooded with subhumans by these dirty kikes and boomers on purpose?
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>>539475873
True that.

I love AI. I use it all day every day. Someday I'm going to put it in my head and merge consciousnesses with my AI. I can't wait.
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>>539461404
It's called Jew daycare for a reason
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>>539476542
Please refrain from using incelistic verbiage.
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>>539461451
>for every useless employee there's a workaholic compensating by putting in 200% effort
Its 80-90% meaning, for every 10 employees, 1 or 2 were duped into working, the other 8 either arent aware they are useless or dont care if they are due to realizing the jews have made it impossible to work your way out of the station in life you find yourself in.
That percentage basically reflects how much the jews get, 80% or more, of everyone's productivity.
jewish fiat shekel dollars are fake, and people start realizing when inflation is crazy, if jews pretend to pay us all, we pretend to work.
Destroy the jew, utterly and to the last, for hope to return,
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>>539476125
>gor fired for not acting busy enough
Did he LITERALLY go into the manager's office and say, "I finished all the work I was assigned, can you find some more work for me?"
Or did he simply finish the small amount of work he was assigned and then fuck off for the rest of the day?

I feel like I'm talking to little children here.

IF YOU FINISH YOUR WORK, THE ONLY HONEST THING TO DO IS TELL YOUR BOSS YOU FINISHED AND ASK IF THERE'S MORE WORK TO DO.

Anything else is laziness and dishonesty.

>my buddy got fired
Because they had more work for him to do, but he pretended he was doing work when he wasn't. Of course he got fired. He was stealing from the company.

WHEN YOU FINISH YOUR WORK, YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO INFORM YOUR BOSS SO THEY CAN ASSIGN MORE WORK.
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>>539476370
and finally I can live as a car
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>>539476542
Maternity leave is like one year here, same with paternity leave

Wouldn't the Jews fix those loopholes first?
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>>539461451
i work for this kind of guy and i don't feel sorry for them. they do it to themselves because they don't trust anyone and refuse to identify with anything in their life other than their work. i'm not responsible for their mental illness.



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