Why are US ground forces so hesitant when it comes to boots on the ground in Iran. Is losing a couple thousand troops so problematic for current US society? What changed since Iraq war? Surely they didnt lose that much testosteron in such a short time span.
Legit thread?
Remember to thank Jody when you get drafted by Israel.
>>539502435Garbage thread
>>539502435Because we’re giant pussies who love brown people.
>>539502435demon
>>539502514Jody is innocent, instead, she's guilty of tricking both Jody and Private McCuck.
Y not just bomb and blockade them indefinitely? Destroy all their ports and all their bridges and roads connecting them with other countries. Not even hard given how rough the terrain is and all the natural chokepoints and how few crossings there are.
>>539502548Just answer the question
>>539502435>hesitantwe already went through 20 years of pointless war and left a 100x a showcase showdown's prize winnings in military equipment to modernize the taliban's army when we escapedpointless wars for kikes aren't something many people are willing to die forbut you knew that already
>>539502435Casualties are one thing but not being able to achieve the military objectives is the big one. The Chinese would love nothing more than to see US troops being used in live testing for their weapons systems.
We’ve spent like the last 40 years fucking around and having people die in the Middle East for no reason. That’s why. Iraq wasn’t a complete disaster but it was a complete waste of time and people. Afghanistan wasn’t a total dissster and waste of time. Iran it looks like would be the same only worse. There was literally no good reason to attack Iran and there is even less good reason to invade.
>>539502435we should've forcibly conscripted the norwegian population to fight on the eastern front. of course the ruskis wouldn't have cared who wears a germon uniform, as in other cases
>>539502753>There was literally no good reason to attack IranI dunno. Their behavior really proves that they cannot be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
>>539502629Have you seen Iran? It’s all mountains.It’s easier to bomb them while testing all the new tech we’re buying. What are they gonna do about it? Nothing.You seem to forget that for America, every war is just another training exercise.
>>539502753If that's the current consensus in your society then Iran has already won.
>>539502753>Iraq wasn’t a complete disasterIt was, and the power vacuum created by deposing Sadam played a big role.
America is majority brown now, good luck getting Hector Garcia to support invading other shitskins for the American Empire he feels ruined his shithole country in South America, John Smith is plenty happy to purge Iran of brown terrorists, that's why Iraq War was so supported at the time.
>>539502891>new tech we’re buying.Weird form to write That you are buying and sending to israel
>>539502891Israel will be rubble and a couple of hundred pilots will be rescued by the end of it
>>539502628In case you haven't noticed the Iranians can hit anything they want in the region and have closed the strait of hormuz and now the red sea is closed as well.
>>539503010John Smith the Evangelitard was wrong, however, and only served to send a migrant wave to Europe and thr Uas and explode the national debt, and eventually the economy (as GWB was too distracted by Sand Wars to pay attention to the financial system).
>>539502435Only SHITSKINS don't want citizens to be drafted by ICE.Too bad SHITSKINS, ICE will send whites to Iran to kill those SHITSKINS!!!
>>539502435wont be just a couple thousand, youre greatly under estimating iran like so many people.the people always OVER estimate russia which is weird.the iqs in iran are very high. you guys dont understand what this means.
>>539502435We just spent 20 years at war
they have around 80 and half of them are men that are willing to fight because of their religion. islam.theyre all going to fight this.
>>539503142>In case you haven't noticed the Iranians can hit anything they want in the regionThey sure seem to not want to hit much then. Why is that wog?
>>539503075Like when we armed the Iroquois, the Crow, the Irish, the French, the Samoans, South Vietnamese, Peshmerga and the Kurds? It’s what we do. You can’t fight them in future if you don’t arm them first.War is a business and we are the CEO.
>>539502435Don't wanna wind up on telegram like the Russian soldiers
>>539503230I was implying that they would be buck broken by then
>>539502435anon, the Trump administration is losing troops at about 1/2th the rate of Afghanistan without boots on the ground. You do the math.To take and hold a country the size of Iran (assuming approx 20 troops per 1,000 civillians) the occupying force would need to be of approximate size to the current total population of the US military, including all non-combat personnel.
They're scared and only signed up for the gibs
this will be the worst war for america of all times and they know this. off course you dont because youre iq points are so low but thats no problem. this is why we can talk and i can tell you.
>>539502435>dude just do nam 2.0 with drones ur not a bitch are u
>>539503324Forgot pic
they have avg iq 5 or so more than americans and this is going to bite them in the ass so hard.we, all the rest of the provinces of the empire, have to endure this shit now were all running low on oil.
>>539502435> Not wanting to fight the jews's war makes you low TPiss off back to your containment sandbox, kike.
>>539503293Curious they already throw The first rock (or poisoned The first well), and The americans only Say "nothing happened"
>>539503332They sound weak.You should take them on, rabbi!
It would literally become war of US vs China/Russia team work and Persian meat. Russians and Chinese will beat the Mutt empire easily
>no more noahide wars
>>539502435It's hard to convince for a war when your entire young male population cannot find a good job neither have a good wife.
>>539502435If you wanna go die for Israel be my guest otherwise fuck you vpn kike
>>539503379>>539503442>brags about iq >admits they are just a servantYour grandmother definitely fucked a nigger G.I. for a box of chocolate bars.
>>539502435Because our ground forces are sub-optimal tiny brown people. It's a total shitshow.
>>539503489But they have fought all the Jewish wars previously. Why not one last job you know, for the chosen.
>>539502435>Is losing a couple thousand troops so problematicTotal? No. Per day? Yes.
>>539502435Most Americans are not retarded enough to fall for Jewish schemes and tricks like in 2003
>>539502435We get to do things our way. You don't have to understand or approve. You have the same autonomy.
>>539502435>boots on the ground in IranThe IRGC is salivating at the chops for the US to make such a mistake. The losses the US would sustain would be UTTERLY DEVASTATING, would doom the current treasonous administration who promised not to embroil the US in a war in the first place.
>>539502802>Their behaviorThere's nothing untoward about Iran's behavior>they cannot be allowed to have nuclear weaponsIran has a Fatwah against building, aquiring, or using nuclear weapons.
>>539503676everyone real quiet about our shit ass navy that got btfo the first week too>laundry firek
>>539502435in Iraq we had broad coalition support. the US had, at peak, about 250,000 troops in Iraq while the rest was coalition (~800,000 troops total). it would take far more if a ground invasion of Iran were to happen.
>>539503633you live in a tent city now captain america. get drafted to fight in iran its nice and warm in the desert.
>>539502514Cadences more like KEKdences haha right guys
>>539503619or when a shitskin and muslim invasion is taking place in all of our backyards now, yea let's go die for jews while real and tangible enemies are on food stamps with nothing to do but attempt rape and murder on citizens all day
>>539503546Are you dense? We made a pact with China before the Barbary Coast was even established and they will throw Russia under the bus so fast it will make your head spin. Read a fucking book.
>>539502435You are free to go and fight there if you are so itching.
>>539502891>for America, every war is just another training exercise.America lost freedom of navigation and all of the bases it's built in the region. America lost lives and insane amounts of money and quality of life at home and the volunteerism of its population and the goodwill of its allies and the majority of its military stockpiles.
>>539503816Yeah but that was back when we were stinkin rich
>>539503832You’ve been fucked off Hans Mohammed, now kindly fuck off. Ask grandma how those G.I. Dicks tasted.
>>539502435The war is wildly unpopular and unnecessary. We don't want reruns of Iraq or Afghanistan.
The real nuts and bolts of it are the topography and geography. if you thought Afghanistan was hard, Iran is easily 5x worse, even with the shoreline that landlocked Afghanistan didn't have. It would be a logistical nightmare on an unfathomable scale. Could we have won in Vietnam? Probably. But the end result would still be the one we have now. Afghanistan? It kicked Russia's ass and ours. Iran would be practically impossible. Just nuke it all
>>539502628Because that would be a waste.The Iranian citizens - Persia - are quite capable. Effectively all of the cited Islamic scientific achievements come from the Persian culture before they created Shia Islam mostly to get the Arabs to bugger off.They have a solid industrial culture and are well aligned with regard to U.S. cultures.It would be a shame to completely destroy that capacity and culture.The IRGC is a radical faction which took control at the prompting of CIA and MI5 operations inside of Iran. It is primarily operated by external forces and groups who have an interest in keeping the Iranian people isolated and held hostage for illicit arms manufacturing and the like.The problem we are facing is decades of feckless foreign policy. We are an empire that wants to shove all the responsibilities of being an empire onto other nations being absorbed in the empire. Even for groups who would normally jump for joy at joining the American empire, the fact we deny we are an empire and all accountability to our conquest leads to people not being so keen on being said conquest. From the perspective of the Iranian public, if they side with us and we decide to call half measures and leave without routing the IRGC, those people will come back into power and then hunt down everyone who cooperated with us.We have an accountability to this in my mind. They are to become our territory and our subjects/citizens in time. That means we remove their government and kill everyone who supported it writ large, and we see to it that our claim to them is enforced jealously and we murder the shit out of people who claim otherwise.The way we respond to our people being taken hostage is to be translated to them; they are ours and taking them hostage is how you get black helicopters and very shooty people to exterminate your entire compound/village you are holding them in.But, yes, in principle, we can simply do as you suggested. There is no strategic need.
>>539503289>They sure seem to not want to hit much thenAmerica is sortieing from the UK because Iran hit literally all of the US' bases as far as Cyprus. The 5th fleet command got deleted and rolled into other commands. America's early warning radars are gone. Many oil refineries were destroyed across the Gulf Coast. Iron Dome launchers in Tel Aviv got deleted. And they're still launching.
>>539503906Which war are you referring to?
>>539502435No balls. The US lost their will to fight. Now they do that pussy bombing shit in Iran and let them talk back to them. The fist ship Iran attacked they should have destroyed all their ports and mine the shit of all of their waters, making it unusable without massive international support to clean them up.
>>539503989you might be gay
>>539504044I think anon is speaking of the current war in Iran, anon. It's sorta obvious if you weren't being facetious.
>>539503995>Could we have won in Vietnam? Probably.We literally own the Vietnamese cane sugar industry (Coca Cola) and they still owe us $13.8 billion in infrastructure loans. We own Vietnam. Thats called a win.
>>539504044In the current conflict, America cannot freely navigate the strait of Hormoz. While Yemen closes the strait, America will not have freedom of navigation there either. Just like last time Yemen closed the strait and America had to sail around the horn of Africa.
>>539502435>Why don't you goys commit suicide for israel? How about you fuck yourself and we let (((America))) die instead?
>>539503678Because more of them are aware now and the stakes are much higher.Futhremore the other jewish wars happened during in the post cold war era, a time in which America was the sole hegemon and nobody DARED help their enemies, things are a bit diffrent now.
>>539504168So nothing
>>539503995>Could we have won in Vietnam? Probably.The Tet Offensive was a military victory. America routed under fire, just like Afghanistan. "We didn't really want to win" is not a cope winners need.
>>539502435It isnt as easy as you think it should be. First of all. The military is incompetent. Think about trying to invade another country, but its just a highschool class with guns. Theyre fucking doomed. All they can do is drop bombs and theyre running out.
>>539504167I was merely pointing out that almost every war has resulted in the same. They teach this shit at the War College, it’s called “acceptable attainment”.
>>539504168>weWho is "we", goyim?
>>539502435I think I know why Americans hate Europeans so much.This is such a feminine question, and it can only really exist in the mind of someone who completely does not expect to be sent to war or to experience hardship.Women have a total psychological blind spot for this, as recently shown by the responses to Evil Dead Burn or a better example, the Ukraine travel ban + war draft. It doesn't even occur to you that Americans might not want to run the inherent gambit of war just because a gay boy in Denmark thinks the small village of Iran needs to be taught a lesson. Right now the only war these guys want to fight is the one in their own country and at their borders.Also, because the stupid nation of Israel has set a precedent for assassination you're going to have NATO want to sit this one out.
>>539502435>What changed since Iraq war?the iraq war
>>539504282Ah, okay.
>>539502435Because human lives matter. If you are so cavalier about this, I suggest you go join the front line. Is just your life. No big deal.
>>539504352You cant just say all lives matter anon
>>539504025>they are ours and taking them hostage is how you get black helicopters and very shooty people to exterminate your entire compound/village you are holding them in.You have no "people", mutt.And if you did, Iranians WOULD MOST certainly not be your people.Anything you touch turn to shit.
>>539504068There's no real country to fight for. The US is hardly even am economic zone at this point. Quite a bit of the military is made up of foreign mercs or disloyal minorities. Quite a few are women looking for a job. The military is not the 2003 American war machine, its a jobs program for DEI retards and Whites with a family tradition. The only really effective part is the super competent special forces and half of them are either a cartel or psychopathic deep state operators. America isn't a real thing anymore.
>>539504228You obviously don’t realize the power of the Coca Cola Company. They control the largest private army of ex-military contractors in history, and are present in every single country in the world.
>>539502435this time it's going to be way more than a couple thousand.also, when 9/11 happened, soldiers were actually invested in the war. iran right now looks more like vietnam. there's no clear message to sell to the soldiers to why they should risk their lives for something like this. furthermore, the whole situation is entirely of our own doing. iran didn't threaten us, they didn't attack our bases or close the strait. they only did that after we attacked them in a pearl harbor style attack.under these circumstances, soldiers are more likely to avoid putting themselves in danger rather than putting objectives first. you guys really underestimate the importance of 'selling the war' here. in the eyes of the vast majority, even a nontrivial number of americans, we are the 'bad guy' in this situation.
>>539503077Fuck off back to Paki-land Ahmed, and take your whole gaggle of inbred parasites with you.
>>539502514I'm a convicted felon so I'll be staying put to protect the homefront and plow all of the cuck military members' daughters, girlfriends and wives.#BLESSED
>>539504449Carthage (America) must be destroyed
>>539503995The cope is ABSOLUTELY real!
>>539504352>>539504323>>539504319Why are you all implying that im pro Jewish war? Im just trying to take a non biased approach to this question. I just dont understand how they expect regime change in Iran if the war is so unpopular. Does this mean nukes on route(of they exist)?
>>539504504The quistion is what is Israel gonna do to drag you in even more
I want boots on the ground for yhe lolsEither the US stomps some third world shitskin mudslimes or the Great Devil USA gets its shit pushed in and loses its global superiorityWin-WinWhen to mknsters fight I dont care who wins
>>539504539Shlomo, when will you inbred kike shitskins get that nobody likes and your slime cousins.And your fake ass country in the ME will be fucking reduced to rubble since you were dumb enough to sabotage your only protector.You inbred kike shitskin fuck.
>>539504539Sizzle down hick. Everyone outside your little village in bum fuck nowhere thinks you are weirdo boomer
it seems like everyone has forgotten how to win wars. in ww2 we didn't just blow up the german's tanks and airplanes. we blew up their dams, their railroads, their powerplants, their factories, everything they needed to wage war. we dropped 2 fucking nukes on japan after firebombing the rest of the country. now we're not "allowed" to blow up power plants and bridges because, I don't know, some people in brussels will get mad at us or something. if you aren't willing to go total war you aren't really trying to win, and if you aren't trying to win you shouldn't be fighting at all.
>>539503678Nobody in their right mind will fight for a people as low and evil as jews. It's never happening again.
>>539502435The difference is that this is the most unpopular war in US history. Literally nobody wanted this, especially not after decades of failed escapades in the Middle East. The government didn't even bother to try and sell this war to the public, either, they just went and did it. By contrast, the government cooked up all kinds of narratives and atrocity propaganda to get us in Iraq, and also intentionally misled Americans into thinking they were somehow partly responsible for 9/11.
Brownoids cant fight war and the us army is a giant brownoid one
>>539503142When was the last Iranian "fury" that devastated an Israeli target? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think it was weeks ago...What are the mighty unbeatable IRGC waiting for? Why has the Gay-Atollah apparently fled the nation? Did he join Assad in Russia?
>>539502511its literally too hot troops will die immediately there will be an invasion late october The RealFeel temperature around noon in Bandar Abbas reaches a dangerous high, typically ranging between 120°F and 125°F due to extreme summer heat and high humidity
>>539504608I didnt imply anything. they expect regime change because trump thinks he is the chosen one. and also they jumped the gun and attacked because israel tricked them into thinking iran was going to do something. or something. it's all retarded I stopped paying attention because it's all so god damn retarded
>>539504781>YEEEAH WHITE PEOPLE ARE SO COOL, SO BRAVE>HOORAH GO WHITE PEOPLEAnd then they label you a sucker once you're dead. White people will not fall for this anymore.
No one is going to fight in Iran, I'm not sure why we even discuss this shit
>>539504871thread themehttps://youtu.be/FIyL8ti3SME?si=dsq4qJDpj8yXVFqA
>>539504815> NAW IRAN ONLY BOMBED THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF US 4 OR 5 TIMES, LOL THEY ARE WEAK! This is just sad. >Why has the Gay-Atollah apparently fled the nation?Let's assume he fled?What of it, kike
>>539503796>There's nothing untoward about Iran's behaviorI disagree>Iran has a Fatwah against building, aquiring, or using nuclear weaponslmao, lol
>>539504025imagine reading that
>>539502802lol, what behavior? Fighting back?
>>539502802Iran has the right to defend themselves against satanic jews and their retarded golems.
>>539504446You live on our world and insist you are not one of us. Your rent is due.>>539504280We'll take Bushehr inside of 36 hours. We'll have Tehran secured inside of 168.Total losses for the operation under 1000.The reasons we have not yet done so are entirely political.>Lol, cope muttYou'll be on here in a few days, crying about how disappointing Iran's military was and why it is everyone gets completely stomped by the U.S.The reason is culture, training, and investment.
>>539502628I’m more interested in taking over the black market of their provocative government to at least profit off the idiots who’s forcing me into a deadly overtime with 2 hours of sleep and no pay into my death…“United States Indicts Man behind Alleged Multi-Million Dollar Iranian Smuggling NetworkFeb 11, 2011 — Milad Jafari is suspected of operating a multi-million dollar procurement network aimed at funneling missile related goods to entities associated with Iran's“Might as well allies myself with the opposition and give them new robotic tools that are undetectable to sell cocaine legally…F congress and their stupidity, make money with everyone, give everyone a taste of the good life, use enhanced robotics to counter a penny bullet used in exchange for the dead body of a human…I’m exhausted with this stupidity and this nonsense about the dangers of machines and AI when thousands of nukes are mass produced.
>>539504987>Why has the Gay-Atollah apparently fled the nation?>Let's assume he fled?>What of it, kikeWhy is it important the leader of the nation fled?Its becauze he is a mudshit coward and the US are stomping them into the groundIf you are winning and brave you dont flee your own nation lol lmao
>>539502435they're not hesitant, they don't need to do it.
>>539502435Because for the most part the American public is wary of sending its sons to die for Israel. Even some of the more crazy political animals who cant get enough of the smell of jew assare are worried they will be kicked out of office or possibly lynched. The US should have stayed out of conflict with Iran, it wasn't in the interest of the US but definitely was done for the benefit of the greater Israel project.
>>539504719I wipe my arse with jewish, and abrahamic holy papers in general.We have like 4 kikes in this nation, and they are thinking about leaving, since our retarded government are cheering for Hamas, Hezbollah, and of course apparently had a absolutely retarded mourning TV-broadcast of the Iranian supreme leaders funeral.I could not care less about the fate of jews.Exterminate semitic peoples in general, and turn their lands into natural preserves and holiday destinations for people who want to check out some roman architecture.
>>539505192Im sure USS Abraham and ford will be chilling in a safe distance from Iran while the troops land safely on the shores ready to pawn some Iranian noobs
>>539503906two more weeks
>>539504987When was the last strike...?The answer is obviously not "5 or 6 times"The point being, I believe it was weeks ago the last iranian rocket landed in Israel...Why? What's holding them back? Now, surely, must be the perfect time to demonstrate their epic and lethal force... right?
>>539503010Latinxes love to fight, though. A Colombian politician said last year that over 800 Colombian citizens had been killed while fighting in Ukraine. They love fighting so much that they travel around the world just to fight in places like Ukraine or Sudan. Death is nothing to a Latinx, possibly even a relief.
>>539505663>"ISRAEL IS SAFE!!!!"why are you here?
>>539505361>The carrier should be running itself around with the troopsRight, a good king must lead from the front.>N-no, I meant it is afraid of Iranian missiles!No one stops to ask how all of the stuff we have in Iraq, Kuwait, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Qatar, etc got there. It just went poof and appeared there, I guess.Iran shot their shore defense wad within the first five minutes of the exchange. They're out of effective munitions and pose little threat to naval assets.
>>539505214>Its becauze he is a mudshit coward and the US are stomping them into the groundThey are?Why is the straight still closed, lampshade?>>539505348>abrahamicThanks for confirming my previous suspicion, kike rat.Only you jews use that term.There is only Christianity, Pisslam and Rabbinicalism are poor copies.>>539505663>When was the last strike...?> The point being, I believe it was weeks ago the last iranian rocket landed in Israel> Why? What's holding them back?The abundance of ZOG targets all around them...?LITERALLY right next to them.> Now, surely, must be the perfect time to demonstrate their epic and lethal force... right?They have been doing that for weeks...Targeting American assets all around them.
>>539502435>Why are US ground forces so hesitant when it comes to boots on the ground in Iran.Because the operation is a suicide mission. Even if we had the bodies for it, it would still be a disaster because it involves sending hundreds of thousands of humans to get blown up by drones & heat seeking missiles while their operators move from mountain fortress to mountain fortress, effectively being Vietnam on steroids as the troops become ambushed by enemies that can never be located. Our entire military would collapse from even attempting this operation because we don’t have the manpower to even pretend we could hold a single objective by doing this, leaving us in a state similar to what happened with the Russian Czardom after losing their war with Japan.
>>539505892>why are you here?I, and my ancestors centuries back, were born and raised in Norway, I served in the navy. My allegiance is to my ancestors, and the sovereignty and prosperity of this nation, and ditto for the western nations second. also see >>539505348 about your jewish fetish.
>>539505866The Colombians fighting in Ukraine are retired bored soldiers, they're different than the lazy welfare mutants America has.
>>539506269Show flag, kike
>>539506424How are you pushing for prozionists and the Epstein group all the while being a jew hating pro white nazi warrior. Something doesnt make sense. Are you one of those gay ass loving types?
>>539506269Truly, the third world mind has no concept of scale.While my own claims of how quickly we would take Iran are fair to challenge, the reality is that the supply base that I did a tour at is still standing. I won't say where it is for the moment, but we hosted carriers and stuff there and ran some other operations.We have forces all along the Gulf. Iran started this conflict with thousands of drone launches and over a thousand missile launches per day.Where were all the hits from those? You get a few to point at out of thousands of munitions.Now, Iran shoots off less than 10 missiles per day, if that, and may send up to 20 drones out.As the other anon pointed out.... What's the hold up?Did they suddenly decide to be nice and diplomatic?What changed between the time when they were launching thousands of munitions and now?We are still flying over when we want and still bombing them without answer.
>>539506811>Why should reality interrupt my fantasy?This is why you lose.
>>539502435It's political suicide. Regardless if they were professional soldiers willing and eager to die for their country, the opposition party will spin it as a squandering of american lives and will gain significant votes for it. If it happened last year, probably no big deal, but the mid-term election is in 3.5 months so it's not wise to do it now.
>>539505072Jews and their golems are legitimate targets for any and every kind of violence. You cannot commit war crimes against ontologically evil creatures and their willing slaves.>>539505192The US simply no longer has the capability to wage a ground war against an organised, capable, and determined adversary such as Iran, and every day their capabilities shrink even further as their jewish owners degrade the country and its population into something resembling Brazil. There is no practical way the US can accumulate the necessary forces to invade Iran, ebbed if they could, there's no way for them to insert them into the country, even if they could, there's no way for them to sustain the invasion, and they'd never even get to the occupation stage. Any attempt by the US to invade Iran would end in massive casualties and complete humiliation on the international stage
>>539506945>>Why should reality interrupt my fantasy?This is why you lose.Oof, what a philosophic entry
>>539504866just make them wear speedos. kevlar speedos and wife brimmed steel sunhats. and plenty of sunscreen
>>539502511no
>>539506811>Pushing for prozionsts... And Eptein group (?)How do you figure, "deleting semitic peoples" is a pro zionist position exactly?And why do you bring Epstein into the mix ? He has not been mentioned until you just brought it up. He's exterminated, how is he relevant in the Iran situation?
why tho?iran dindu nuffin
>>539502435>real answerNo one gives a shit who we bomb, as long as there's no risk of someone you know getting killed. Once we have boots on the ground, suddenly your neighbor's kid, or your cousin, or some random guy from your town gets killed, and that's when people start asking if the war is worth it. No US casualties, no questions about the necessity of the war.
>>539507110It's honestly kind of sad to see how cheap your own cause is to you.At least the German Nazis were broadly trying to be practical. They had their own retarded views, but they could comprehend industry.What you're displaying is>I hate Jews so much that I would rather see everyone who isn't a Jew die because the Jews said not to stand in fire.It's comical levels of stupidity where you will do something you would, normally and rationally, never do simply because you think a Jew wants you not to.It's beyond "America is good at building refrigerators and toasters, not planes and tanks" reasoning.You insult the Nazis by invoking their image.Sure, that is what you are about, but I should offer one last opportunity for reflection.
>>539502802Honestly, their restraint is greater than Israel's.Take the weapons from bibi and give them to Iran. Middle East fixed.
>>539502435The difference is there's close to 0 buy in from the public for this war. The Iraq war was still running on the fumes of 9/11, and the country was not so blatantly plagued by other problems.
if only iran would hit europe with a ballistic missile, that would be enough to get your ground invasion.
>>539507258Alright, I give up. Us and Israel is going to win the Iran war without setting a foot in Iran. Israel will be totally safe and live happy ever after. Happy now Trond?
>>539506269Do you think Jesus was raised atheist ? I very much doubt that.The old testament ("Tanakh") predates the "Christian abrogation", The new testament by a thousand years and more. The copycat Mudslimes came with more epileptic fantasies and corruptions 600 years after that.I am no jew, nor am I religious. I find it necessary to know about history, and how the western world became what it is today, and how it can continue to prosper, if only we can remove primitives (such as Ayatollahs and the IRGC) ability to disrupt human (i. e. western) progress.Israel is Irans stated nemesis, "to be deleted", not ZOG. Bombing neighboring mudslime states, and Sri Lankan tankers is not. Since they are so formidable, militarily, they should be able to put massive pressure and devastation upon its main adversary right, not waste time and effort on irrelevant shacks in the wrong nation DEVOID OF JEWS.,
US military is paper tiger like Russian. 5 dollar drones gonna destroy 5 trillion dollars of equipment is why. US is already insolvent, gonna be 3much5u to handle.
>>539502435>Why are US ground forces so hesitant when it comes to boots on the ground in Iran.Because they'd die.>Is losing a couple thousand troops so problematic for current US society?Politicians would have to make a lot of excuses and it would be really hard for them to spin it.>What changed since Iraq war?20 years of economic stagnation and inflation in the US, and 20 years of technological development everywhere else.>Surely they didnt lose that much testosteron in such a short time span.Testosterone won't magic away the logistical problems of there not being any way to stage enough US forces in the region for an actual ground invasion, even if the US military actually had enough forces in the first place.
It's only been 4 months, the anger has to simmer first. Let them cook.
>>539507815Im sure you are getting really angry. Its only a matter of before the beast comes out
>>539508132SEND MEEEE
>>539502435>we will see go-pro videos of Americans getting dronedbased
>>539502435All food packaging is pumping people full of estrogen
>>539508132perhaps two more weeks? then the gloves will REALLY come off>no achshually everythings under control and we're just big brain godfathers at war no you retarded faggots you're getting teabagged by goat herders. AGAIN.
>>539502435>Surely they didnt lose that much testosteron in such a short time span.They did.
>>539508332juba was so kinoi remember it made people ANGRY to see Johnathon from Arkansas getting brained. imagine now? in this society? in1080p? fuck me that would be the end of American society.
>>539507085>The US simply no longer has the capability to wage a ground warWow! This has to be the most retarded, inbred, mudslime delusion so far in this thread.Imagine the US military is the police officer called out to deal with some drunk bozo menacingly waving a crowbar around in some neighborhood. It is not reasonable to tell the police that he can only fight the bozo using a crowbar, because that might mean the police would be unable to go home after his shift, instead ending up in hospital. Instead he has a gun, and some other superior gear, and also some other colleagues with similar equipment, and training to disable drunk bozos one way or another, with minimal risk.Taking out artillery, vehicles, arms stores, some camps or barracks, utilizing their unopposed air superiority (that they got after just a couple of days into this conflict...) Being dominant, also allow the US forces to pick a time for their push, and can train, prepare, and sleep soundly, until they are ready. Iran have no such luxury. They have no idea when it might happen, they may not have the gear they need. Communications are likely not great, and thay might have been having 8 hour shifts and shitty rations, nor their pay, since april. Are they as illoyal, defection prone, and generally ill prepared and scared shitless as the Iraqis were in Desert StormThey are fucked! Game over months ago. Black Ops teams have been camping at various relevant sites for months already, they always do, sending info from a hilltop here and there.
>>539502630>we already went through 20 years of pointless warYup. The US has slowly learned that the whole hearts and minds strategy is bullshit when applied to non European people.The US and all Western nations no longer have the heart to practice absolute total war, where you simply go in to kill, enslave, or displace everyone, eradicate their culture, language and monuments, and settle the land with own people. This form of warfare hasn't been practiced by Europeans since the Romans salted Carthage, and the German attempt to resurrect it was defeated.Instead Europeans have been content to engage in limited wars where subduing the enemy is the goal, however transitory that might be. Look at a map of Europe from around 1000 AD. Now look at a map from 2000 AD. As far as people and culture goes its basically unchanged. France, England, Germany, Poland, Italy, etc etc, they are all still there despite the many wars, victories and defeats they all suffered. A few border and name changes are trivial.Now just imagine if the following was politically feasible. Tell young American men that if they go and defeat Iran they will receive:1) The right to have as many Iranian women as they want. As wives or servants.2) The right to shoot any Iranian man on sight.3) As much Iranian land as they can manage, all for free.4) A share in all the natural resources of Iran.5) Financial aid to help them develop Iran into a American style sovereign state.I am pretty sure you would see an unprecedented swell in volunteers, including many from other countries. The calls for an immediate ground invasion would be deafening. Because you are then giving them something worth the risk of dying for.
>>539508687effortpost
>>539508686Taliban controls afghanistan and iraq is not a happy place. 20 years. Tom Clancy isnt as reliable as witnessing 20 years of losing. The drunks in charge basically used up most of our gear to take out probably less than 20% of Irans stock. If the US invades they are also going to be hit on all sides by militias in every ME country going full jihad again itching for an opportunity.
>>539507562There were massive demonstrations all over US and Europe to stop the Iraq war. I have seen no such efforts this time around... PRetty sure the usual suspects would have been front and center if it did happen. Maybe that was all financed and organized by the USAID funds that now no longer flows freely into progressive propaganda efforts.
>>539502435Death of US troops is poor optics, but for different reasons. When US troops die, it always turns out these are actually foreign mercenaries and not Americans themselves. This reveals the lack of a fighting spirit among the Americans. Waging an easy war against the weak enemy with mercenaries is possible. Waging a world war is not.
if i stop you cargo cult mudniggers from this performative cope ritual that you routinely do will you die?
>>539509024>>539508990>>539508922>>539508910>>539503142>Iran ... closed the strait of hormuz and now the red sea is closed as well.Iran should hit the Suez Canal to damagemaxx the USA vassals in the region
>>539507627The war will be won by waiting for the 89 million Iranians who are NOT all that giddy with joy for the Gayatollah and his IRGC cronies continued existence, to get their ducks in a row. You will not see any news about this in regular NRK or TV2 of course, but the information is out there, even on JewTube, small trickles here and there, riots, disobedience, sabotage.If people see that the IRGC is unable to control power, fuel, food, and general law and order, people will be forced to step up. Lives will be lost, but that was very much the case for these past 50 years anyways...
>>539509226If anything this war probably cemented people backing the Iranian regime. Their lives were fairly normal, now they are shitting in buckets and dont have clean water. Gee wiz, whos to blame?
>>539509226Wow, you've got it all planned out
>>539509226>riots, disobedience, sabotage.Mossad got rekt at last riot/coup attempt.Better bring a lot more Kurds, Uyghur and ISIS sandnigger glowies next time.
>>539507085like 4 years ago the us estimated itself would be military insolvent by the mid 2030s, as in barely able to project any power past its immediate borders.look forward to substantial cope and seethe from mutt internet defense force in the coming years. their all going to get sundowners and start crashing out bigly.
>>539502435>You are not a man unless you die for the Jews in government and the Indians in Silicon ValleyI support this message, the average white IQ stands to raise at least 10 points from retards falling for this
>>539508990>real americans have never been tried
>>539502435It would be tens of thousands. All for greater israel
>>539509369Who are backing the regime?Nations? Nobody ready to do more than "strongly worded" X-posts. They have very few friends. Both Russia and China has fucked off into the back-rooms, and they seem pretty "flaccid" and anemic. Population of Iran? Numbers?Not in Shia clerics or IRGC favor. They are alone, apart from some sleeper cells that will probably come knocking in order to fulfill their desire to meet their 72 virgin goats, or white grapes, depending on what translation you prefer.
>>539509868The 89 million people whos lives the Epstein gang ruined. And tens of millions more people in neighboring nations.
>>539502435Iraq and Afghanistan fundamentally accomplished little despite the loss of life.What changed is that foreign entanglements that have little to nothing to do with domestic life became rightfully unpopular.
>>539508687this is a fair point
>>539509868>Who are backing the regime?Conservative Iranians.>Nations?BRICS.>Population of Iran? Numbers?Probably about half the country, and at least a fifth for die-hard supporters.If the current regime was really as weak as you are suggesting it would have collapsed after the 12 day war last year.I'm going to be now. Hugs and kisses.
>>539509938>89 million people whos lives the Epstein gang ruined...I doubt the vast majority of the 89 million have the faintest idea about the activities of the Epstein gang, but they definitely know someone who got executed in the public square by the IRGC for not wearing their hijab or some other retarded shit. I do not believe the fantasy of widespread support from people in the neighboring nations who themselves became targets of Iranian rockets and drones, or generally are sick and tired of the whole Shia clerical bullying in the region. Furthermore, with no ability to project any power across borders, just like Iran is largely defanged, it is a moot point anyway.
>>539509868>They are aloneIran still has the Houthis and Hezbollah.Hezbollah is getting rekt on Lebanon.But Houthis are still strong.China and Russia help by providing Intel.
>>53951038520 years in iraq and afghanistan. Al Qaeda was estimated to exist in the low hundred numbers around 2001. 20 years of nonstop recruitment and bolstering numbers across nations. Turning enemies into allies. Taliban was reported to want to give up Osama before 9/11, immediately allied with him the moment Bush didnt want to negotiate and instead killed their family and friends.They all now know plenty of people, including themselves, that have had their lives majorly and negatively impacted by what is happening to them right now this very second. All the Epstein gang has done is recruit more enemies.Israel is already known to want this war to continue as long as possible and they are doing just that.
>>539502753>for no reasonIt was to expand Israel’s borders you dipshit
>>539502891> What are they gonna do about it? Nothing.Strait’s still closed brofam
>>539502514If you’re retarded enough to join the military…Every Man A Jody
>>539502435our military hasnt won a war in 80 years is why, and its embarrassing when our soldiers lose wars
>>539508686lol. lmao even. that's a cute little fanfic you wrote for yourself. riddle me this, where would large scale US forces encamp and accumulate for their invasion of Iran? how many armed forces personnel would need to be accumulated and how would the US reach those numbers without forcible enlistment? how would US industry sustain such an effort when they can't even replenish their patriot interceptor stocks?
>>539509226>shamelessly sneak attack the country during negotiations, murder their leader and his family, deliberately kill >100 schoolgirls, make life hell for the average citizen>THE PEOPLE WILL RISE UP AGAINST THEIR GOVERNMENT TO HELP US LIBERATE THEM!you are either very good at baiting or you're a legitimate 90IQ midwit
>>539504449I was saying the same thing about the US military 20+ years ago, while I was beating the brakes off marines in Oceanside bars next to Camp Pendleton. Seems they were just fine, and according to you a real war machine. Same shit now.
Our nation is under Israeli occupation. The greatest enemy of Israel is white male Americans.
>>539510168The people who will resist inside Iran are likely mostly the people who are protecting their livelihoods, and privileges from supporting, or supplying the Clergy and the IRGC.According to Iranians here in Norway I have spoken with, themselves exiled because they were not cheering for the rulers. Also comments and analysis of people online, also exiled Iranians, who seem well informed about the local goings on, even though that is not easy, information still trickle out past the IRGC information blockades.BRICS nations have not been very prominent in their protests of this conflict, nothing to use as leverage I guess. As I mentioned, the twowith notable military power, Russia, and China, the major supporters of Iran in past decades, have not been very forceful in their protests, and have been ignored, and maybe even taunted a bit. India and Modi seems to have more important issues on his mind.Hamas and HEzbollah are largely defunct without money and arms from Iran, and they are pretty much depleted too by now I suppose. Iraq has some Shia cheerleaders, but also not able to project any meaningful power as far as I have seen. The Houthis in Yemen had some rockets, but they were also mostly supplied by Iran, and they no longer have factories producing arms. I'm glad I am not a strategist in the IRGC, because they don't have many pieces left on the board.
>>539509369Hearts and minds doesn’t work. You level the place and accomplish your objective.
>>539510827How about Bosnia / Croatia / Serbia conflict ?How about Libya ?No huge numbers lost there, war / conflict still ended. Mostly by dropping bombs. And probably some black-ops dudes wiping out some more tricky stuff.Why should this be very different?
>>539502891>bomb themAirstrikes and missiles won't be enough.Ground invasion is required to beat Iran.
>>539511372those were un peace keeping missions.
>>539502435Unlike Russians, Americans have no tolerance for large numbers of casualties.When they face actual resistance instead of steamrolling over a country, when the public sees footage of dead and dying American soldiers for little gain, they get cold feet. They blame the current president and his party causing government and foreign policy to swing in the other direction.The real casualties for this current war are being censored because they know it’s extremely unpopular and it would just make people even more against it.
>>539503633Sure that's not any American city, cuckmutt?
>>539510847I do not think there will be a large scale invasion. I think there will be more whack-a-mole, and maybe some smaller operations here and there where deemed beneficial. Pentagon would absolutely have detailed plans for how it might have been set up, but I do not think it will be required. Just like the Soviet system, once the dominoes started falling, it came down all by itself.There are normally 40 thousand US personnel in 10 nations in the middle east. That number has definitely been boosted with a couple of carrier groups and other initiatives since march...
>>539504589You have that tatted on your face and rolled it up to protective custody for a 50 dollar heroin debt.
>>539503676It's true.
>>539510962Western nations will NEVER ever "deliberately kill schoolgirls" That is just retarded. It is one more reason people flee from mudslime nations where human shields are regular part of their barbaric losing strategies. Communications or munitions stores in schools or hospitals. Rocket launchers installed between residential blocks in Palestine. Chaining civilians to radars or artillery in the Bosnian conflict. The time when this has been 100% effective is over. War is hell. We cannot have different rules for parties in a conflict. Sad, sure, but ultimately the responsibility of the people who figure using human shields is a viable tactic.
>>539511733LMAO! and what would be the purpose of such operations? You can't collapse the government of a country of >90million people with air strikes and spec ops
>>539512221Just give it some time.Either way, they will have trouble bothering their neighborhood for quite a few years.Plenty of time to reflect. Any time a launcher pops up, it gets atomized. US are free to choose how to proceed. IRGC is not. The people of Iran is.
>>539512158Lying kike. Your kind not only defends child killers but promotes them.
>>539512662Oh, cool. A literal terrorist, genocidal, imperialist state.Abolish the USA and k--- its soliders.
>>539502435Invading Iran is suicide. Everybody knows it. You would need a force of over a million men for the initial invasion and millions more in reserve to replenish losses. Losses as in deaths not just casualties. I know a few military guys. We play vidya together and talk on discord. They know an invasion is coming. And they’re terrified because they know the chances of surviving a ground invasion of Iran are very low. Because of that there’s rumors going around the military that some servicemen might openly revolt if sent to Iran. As in take up arms and violently resist. I don’t know how true they are. But I don’t doubt them. Especially iafter that mysterious fire on a 2 billion dollar aircraft carrier a few months ago.
>>539512662>Lying kike. Your kind not only defends child killers but promotes themJews' biggest holy day, Passover, openly celebrates the genocidal slaughter of children.
>>539502435>What changed since Iraq war? Not much. Iran would be invaded already if it were as easy as Iraq, USA just lost 139 troops and UK 33 until taking over the country but Iran is different because they have a population 3 times as big as Iraq back then, and also the ability to precision strike any target in the middle east which makes it hard to build up troops and logistic for an invasion without losing 1000s of people. I think the shift happened around the Vietnam war, not sure what happened back then, I don't think it was the Vietnam war that caused it, just that the cultural shift happened around that time.
>>539504168It's mind-boggling that all these years later, there is still invariably someone to run defense for the US in 'Nam anytime it's brought up.
>>539512158>zionist golem slaves would never behave like their owners/masterslollmao even
>>539504866Most of the us military is spics so they can handle it
>>539508687>2) The right to shoot any Iranian man on sight.This'd probably lead to friendly fire whenever Timmy sees Jose in the wrong context.
>>539512465if what you said had any relation to reality Iran would have no launch capability left. in fact, the US has almost no realistic ability to constrain iranian launch capabilities
>>539502435Because Donnie can barely keep the war going as it is. It's too unpopular to send in ground troops. Annoy people enough to start protesting and this shit's getting hard stopped in a matter of weeks (not meme weeks either). So he has to keep this as bloodless as possible for the American people. That's also why he hesitates to hit major infrastructure because enough pictures of sad Iranian babies will torpedo this shitshow as well. All he's got going for him at this point is that if we piss off right now, Iran locks down an international strait and sets a terrible precedent for the entire globe. Even people that don't necessarily support this conflict don't want to so thoroughly destroy the status quo of the past eight decades without at least trying to salvage this shit. But even that goes out the window with enough "bad optics"
>>539512158Truth but good luck convincing these third world and demoralized faggots that. Mixing military and civilian assets is the sand people's favorite trick.
>>539513677You're also kind of retarded and have to realize the northern alliance was also a thing Americans might have been a spearhead but locals were the most of it in most international conflicts
>>539502435It is a job corp for retards too dumb to work at Walmart. Maybe the Rednecks will fight - but all the self hating Blacks and Mexicans are going to fold.Look at who they killed:Army Pvt. Isabella Gonzales de Taco Bell Mojado Goldsteinaka La Creatura de Texas
>>539515211Worth at least ten Ayatollahs
>>539502628Because you cant
