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For the Christians of /pol/, why Christianity?

You've heard all the arguments from us heathens and pagans on here, yet in the end you choose Christianity. So instead of us posting memes about Jesus being jewish and arguing about it, let's hear from you guys. Start from the ground up, as if we'd never heard of this before, and explain why you pick Christianity over native European religions (or native religions from elsewhere for that matter).

Whether you want to believe Jesus was Jewish or not, we can agree he was from Galilee and spent his life in Judaea. Paul, the most important figure in the spread of Christianity, was a Pharisee who converted. So what is so superior about Judaism and Christianity in your eyes that it trumps the fact that it is a foreign religion from the Levant?
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>>539519847
It's the Truth.
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Paul didn't convert. He was a Roman glownigger.
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>>539519882
And you think this because...?
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Christian morals are superior to pagan morals and are the backbone of Western civilization as we know it today. If you base your religious views on which ehtniciy key holy people from that religion were then you are not very serious about it in the first place.
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>>539519847
There are no Christians online. Here we all took the "mark of the beast". Go ask the Amish why they chose it. They are not represented here
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>>539519912
I have seen God.
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>>539519944
How do you know it isn't just schizophrenia?
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Because it works. If you don't appreciate that, you're a nigger, jew, jeet or asshole and don't belong with civilized people.
Religion is pan human. Only nigger, jews, jeets and faggots hate the Christian religion, because they're trying to destroy white people.
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>>539519847
Serpent Seed Doctrine
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>>539519847
its the jews that make it superior we live to serve the jews as g-d intended anything else and you will burn in hell
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For me, I grew up tradcath. Hardcore latin mass/SSPX tradcath. After a point, I had too many unanswered prayers. Life kept getting worse, and pleas fell on the ears of a seemingly deaf god. On top of that, the stories and moral values became uninspiring. As a man, nothing in it seemed to encourage to me manly values. I started to take up martial arts and other things, and my life started to turn around. Yet I was lectured by christians I knew how I was sinful to not just sit there and take abuse from others. The bullies were beloved of their lord and needed more love and attention afterall in order to heal. Somehow, they were the ones truly suffering deep down.

That kind of logic killed Jesus for me. After an answered prayer right in front of me from other Gods, something I couldn't brush off as coincidence no matter how much I wanted to... that was it for me. A moral system that encouraged me to be a better man, answered prayers from very real Gods, and stories that inspired me, well, there was no looking back.

Has Christianity done anything like that for you?
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>>539519966
An atual Godlike entity with power beyond human comprehension. That being can predict the future with 100% precision. If that's my schizophrenia, then, I, too should be able to have that power, alas, I am not.
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>>539519847
I believe it comes closest to the truth which is there is a single benevolent creator and a whole bunch of deceivers
everything else is kinda moot, I think its cringe christians tell eachother theyre going to hell for not believing the same localized lore and I believe the religion has been compromised as far back as Constatine.
My approach is me with God, intuition is Gods advice, books churches and priests I consider middlemen trying to place themselves between me and my creator, there is a lot of truth, but with some twisted lies and no way to discern the two.
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>>539519969
So what about the niggers, jews, jeets and faggots that are Christian? Does that elevate them to the same status as white people in your worldview?

And what about it works?
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>>539520061
How do you know that intuition specifically and only comes from the Judeo-Christian god, and not another?
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>>539520154
Give me a (you).
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>>539519847
They grew up with it and are still afraid of jewhell even as adults. Everything else they say about it is just a post-hoc rationalization.
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>>539520005
Not sure if satire or not, but if not, then why would you want to serve them?
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>>539520245
Speak for yourself.
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>>539520245
I wonder... I have a theory it's something else, which is really the fear of death. Christianity promises a "tangible" solution to death for them through the "resurrection", both of Jesus and themselves. Deep down they are very terrified of death. The old religions are cyclical in their view of time, as well as life and death. Christianity and Judaism are inherently progressive in their view of everything: beginning, middle, end. I think it's comforting to them in that way.
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>>539520264
Wagie gotta wagie. People either serve Money, or serve God.
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>>539520011
>Just lift bro, god(s) will answer all your prayers
Could learn something from the story of job. God isn't just a magical babysitter who occasionally grant wishes
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>>539520328
I like to feel fear. I love horror story. Fear is good, alas, I feel no fear from you people. Because you are all nothing but weakling.
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>>539520369
You type like a pajeet. Show flag
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>>539520245
>They grew up with it and are still afraid of jewhell even as adults. Everything else they say about it is just a post-hoc rationalization.
reading this
notice american flag
fresh breeze with a strong whiff of trees and grass from outside coming from the window next to me

like medication of the mind, we are growing out of the christian jew golem mindvirus
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>>539520388
You can find my post in 4pleb. Stop being a newfag.
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>>539520353
A story about a god betraying his most loyal faithful to the worst fate possible just to win a bet with a rival? That god is not worthy of me.
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>>539520369
>>539520331
>>539520272
>>539519944
you still havent really answered the question, why christianity? its blank statements
"its the truth".. just tell us what it means to you instead of scapegoating.

this is exactly what psychologist refer to with christians expressing psychotic behavior unlike non-christians.
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>>539519847
you know that scene in the mummy where the mudnigger is cycling through religious symbols to ward off the advancing mummy until he finds the right one? something like that.
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>>539520465
>you know that scene in the mummy where the mudnigger is cycling through religious symbols to ward off the advancing mummy until he finds the right one? something like that.
so, youre an art hoe with dream catchers on your walls?
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>>539520460
My short answer was sufficient. Why do have to act like an a wojak in this meme?
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>>539520465
Because he finds the one that makes him appear as a non-threatening slave? Very interesting choice of movie scenes.
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>>539519847
>from us heathens and pagans
Yeah, thank you, random nazi sperg who discovered paganism through memes and wehrmacht brazilian phonk edits. Your wisdom is truly needed.
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>>539519847
To be honest, as the stats say, it's probably because I grew up with it.
That said, whenever I've prayed to God properly about things concerning my own life, I've been answered, and I am very blessed as a result.
As with most topics on this board, I really don't see this as a reason for Europeans to fight each other. There's plenty of room for Europeans of all faiths to unite against our common (actual) racial enemies.
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>>539520497
>Why do have to act like an a wojak in this meme?
im obviously not, i simply seek honest and genuine answers but since youre christian?
honesty must be paid in shekels, id presume.
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>>539520520
Incorrect.

Now, can you answer the question? Why Christianity?
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>>539520563
You certainly are. Where is the lie in my words? You cry about honesty, yet, I see nothing honest about you.

Why do you hate God Almighty? It's because you have a shit life. That's about it.
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>>539520528
Unfortunately, while many Christians like you exist, the religion itself cannot on a large scale coexist with us, and it has shown that time and time again. The old ways are making a return, and if they're going to last, Christianity will have to go, or at the very least take a backseat.
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>>539520633
Victim of modernity. Unfortunately. No one will follow a loser like you.
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>>539520413
That was not the question, Rajesh. Why would anyone look up memeflaggot posts?
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>>539519847
Because its the only alternative is Globohomoism. Pagans don't count because they don't have any old primary texts and are most suspect to takeover from outside influences.
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>>539520737
Why did you ask about my flag? I gave you the answer. Yiu can look it up.
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>>539520571
So I can support the Judeo-Christian-Marxist new world order to trick the goyim into supporting our greatest ally Israel. Just like Jesus intended when He came down to earth 2000 years ago.
>Incorrect.
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>>539520783
Because you type like a pajeet, like i already said.
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>>539520747
We actually have many primary texts, particularly Hellenism for example.

Do me a favor, and check out the Delphic maxims. Many of them are very counter to Judeo-Christian laws and values as a preface, but I'd like you to take a look at them and share your thoughts. How do you feel about these values? How well do you think they'd fare in the modern world?

https://hellenicfaith.com/delphic-maxims/
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>>539520817
That's your problem. Cry about it.
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>>539520011
>After a point, I had too many unanswered prayers. Life kept getting worse, and pleas fell on the ears of a seemingly deaf god.
If you grew up tradcath you would know that life is promised from the beginning to be hard and suffering.
John 15:18-21
“If the world hates you, keep in mind that it hated me first. If you belonged to the world, it would love you as its own. As it is, you do not belong to the world, but I have chosen you out of the world. That is why the world hates you. Remember what I told you: ‘A servant is not greater than his master.’[a] If they persecuted me, they will persecute you also. If they obeyed my teaching, they will obey yours also. They will treat you this way because of my name, for they do not know the one who sent me."

Christianity put an end to sacrifices of the major religions of the time. Norse, Hellenism, whatever. This is probably one of the biggest reasons from a historical rather than theological perspective. Even if you complete operate on a purely mundane level, no spirits or souls or gods, Christianity was the moment that humanity said "yeah let's not do this sacrifice thing anymore".
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>>539520747
Pagans have 1 million songs from dedicated and passionate music artists. They have major games, movies, TV series. Pagans are so prolific despite being few in number.

Christianity meanwhile is like a dead zone of creativity. They have some gregorian chants from 200 years ago, some old churches from 1000 years ago. It's totally stagnant, dead. It doesn't animate people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USOsp5yQhZY
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>>539520835
You are nothing but a coward with an agenda. Your narrative is shit, you can't even give me a (you). Your first post in your own damn thread.

Woethless fuck.
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>>539520626
>You certainly are. Where is the lie in my words?
certainly are? no, i was still only seeking honest and genuine answers.
as for the lie? theres no defining meanings in your answers, its pure subterfuge.
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>>539520880
So is that your answer to the original question? Lack of sacrifices?
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>>539520887
Christians have plenty of song with far more viewers than you. We are just not advertsing about it as Christians, because it is self-evident to be one.

Such is the nature of the Truth.
https://youtu.be/XfTWgMgknpY
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>>539519847
Why NOT Jesus Christ?
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>>539521018
We've answered that many times in these threads, so now it's your turn.

Once and for all, sell us on him and the hebrew traditions that precede him. You have the floor.
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>>539520967
My short answer was sufficient. You are acting like a remilia fans who need more.
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Because jesus was right about the jews
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>>539519847
Insecure people will readily accept child-like magical narratives to regulate their emotions. They can't tolerate any level of cognitive ambiguity. It's a well understood element of human psychology.

The reason it's Christianity instead of some other magical narrative is because they were born into the tribe that believes the Christian narrative, who use childhood trauma to maintain generational membership.
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>>539521065
>My short answer was sufficient. You are acting like a remilia fans who need more.
again, theres no defining mechanical function that wires you to any sense of meaning.
"its just the truth" is subterfuge, pure brainvomit.
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>>539520837
>stinky poopjet larping as a crusader
Ok Rajj. Go catch a train
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>>539521137
>Genesis 1:1
>In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
This is the Truth.
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>>539521183
How did he create the heaven and the earth? be specific
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>>539520497
AVE SATANAS ABRAXAS

Preise be unto the Lord of this World
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>>539520835
>Be (religiously) silent
>Be impartial
>Find fault with no one
>Down-look no one
>Restrain the tongue
>Deal kindly with everyone
>Do away with enmities
Internet pagans have been real silent since these dropped.
For real though, were pagans to actually accept these tenets of life, I would view them more respectably. It's extremely crass to read "jesus was a jew!" and "cucktianity" and the like.

>>539520988
It's something I've been rolling around my head. I'm not sure what I call myself right now, I only replied to that one anon's post because of the whole "life was hard ;-; THEREFORE GOD DOESN'T EXIST >:c" post is juvenile.

On the idea of sacrifices, it doesn't make sense. Do the gods feast on the spirit? Can they just consume spirits? Is it a belief thing? Would not sitting and meditation or expression of gratitude feed them if it's actually belief?
It's not really "just" resources, it's the underpinning of the entire faith economy as it were. At the least, Christianity is set up such that God is fully above us and everything we do, and does not require anything of us except to be good. Jainism and a few others also practice ahimsa (non-violence) which precludes the idea of sacrifices as well. Though I'm still not sure where I sit on those.
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>>539521183
so theres no spiritual anchors besides that earth was created, gotcha.
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>>539521062
That's the thing, the traditions that preceded Him don't matter. He freed us from our dogmas if we choose to believe, and so I do. No church, pastor, bishop, shrine, building, statute, law, person, etc can step between the sincere intent of your heart and God. The choice is ours as any loving Father would prefer their children to seek a relationship with them for counsel and guidance, rather than run amok and needlessly endure preventable issues and the like. It just comes down to belief and a willingness to put in to practice what is revealed to you as your personal relationship with Him grows.
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>>539519847
>Why Christianity?
Because it's the truth, duh. What a dumb question. Learn more scriptures.
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>>539521222
If I know that, then I will certainly be a God.
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>>539521242
>Internet pagans
Are they with us in the room right now?
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>>539521295
What's the point of Church and The Bible if we can't learn how and why God does things?
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>>539521247
God loves me, and I love God. Do I need more?
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>>539521331
It's not hard to understand the why. Just imagine about it can give you the answer.
What's the answer to eternity of nothingness?

Creation.

https://youtu.be/1PZ7ocpk8cU
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>>539521339
This is the same Gook retard.

This clown isn't a Christian by any means
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>>539521298
Gentile schizophrenia.
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>>539521407
>What's the answer to eternity of nothingness?
>Creation.
Why would nothing inherently lead to something?

There's no examples of that ever happening.

Even the big bang theory just describes the universe going from dense and hot to cold and spacious.
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>>539521413
Flandre is legit the equivalent of Azathoth in Lovecraft lore.

https://youtu.be/wEwnEeq23SY
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>>539521462
>Why would nothing inherently lead to something?
Because of boredom. What else? Why do come here?
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>>539521504
>Because of boredom.
How can boredom exist if nothing exists?
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>>539521249
>He freed us from our dogmas if we choose to believe
To hijack this anon's post, this is a pretty important statement. Most of the arguments I hear from pagans is "RETVRN to the ways of your ancestors", but just because they did it, doesn't mean it's good or correct. I can't tell you how many generations of parents end up beating their child because they were beat (not the explicit motivation, just the pattern of behavior). Bad things should be stopped no matter how many generations did it.
If you sincerely believe in Odinism and worship Thor, cool. But "because my pa's pa did so!" is not an argument. What if I said my pa's pa worshiped Christ? He's a closer ancestor to me than my pa's (x287) pa who worshiped Jupiter.

tl:dr; I reject the argument of tradition.
>but muh society
Look at society now.
>Christianity did this!
Actually jews did this.
>Christianity paved the way for the jews!
And Paganism paved the path for Christianity.
It's a fruitless argument as it's simply finger pointing.

>>539521298
I do love etymology, but my usage of the term is simple: the so-called internet pagans self identify as such, so I take them at their word.
>it's actually jews who are-
Well fuck. If it's jews behind paganism, and it's jews behind christianity, then I can't tell who's jewing who and it's again then a fruitless argument.
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>>539521523
You're not going to get genuine answers from that Gook
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>>539521462
>Even the big bang theory just describes the universe going from dense and hot to cold and spacious.
Ever heard of the big crunch theory? Basically everything condenses into a super massive blackhole at the end and then it explodes and becomes the big bang and it just repeats.
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>>539521523
Boredom exists because God exists.
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>>539519882
Is being a malicious traitor the truth? Just read this Bible passage and explain why not all Christians should be arrested for being traitors.
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>>539521578
yeah, but it's gone the way of einstein's singularity in that it's not much of a relevant hypothesis anymore
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>>539521649
You are a traitor to God Almighty. You will certainly die and go to Hell.
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>>539519919
>Christian morals are superior to pagan morals and are the backbone of Western civilization as we know it toda
Christian mortality is just a hyper-cucked form of leftism. If you like that, why are you on a pol and not a cammie forum?
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>>539519969
>Only nigger, jews, jeets and faggots hate the Christian religion
Literally ony only those are Christian and their society doesn't function.
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>>539521529
>Bad things should be stopped no matter how many generations did it.
This is why there is strong anti-christian movement.
Take some Christian values that are actually preached (Churches usually avoid talking how Jesus was full Hberew nationalist calling goys dogs or saying he only came for the lost sheep of israel), mix them with traditions (they are already quite mixed this is why you celebrate Jule as christian or Halloween) and pride of your own ancestry. Abolish Jewishness of your own religion. Make it better, stop following Jewish nonsense if you want to eliminate Jews. Stop turning the other cheek and cleaning feets of niggers. Be compassionate towards the weak, towards your neighbour, towards those who are faced with injustice or punished due to some stupid ancient laws, do not be a sucker who allows evil to triumph over you because you do nothing, do not condemn rich for just being rich if they earned it honestly, do not be pacifist in face of wars and enemies. Do not be a sheep that needs sheepherd, be the sheepherd instead!
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>>539519919
>Christian morals are superior
Is it objectively wrong to circumcise a healthy baby?
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>>539521339
>God loves me, and I love God. Do I need more?
grown man expressing daddy issues to form spiritual meaning and pathfinder through life

and youre surprised that people call you golems?
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>>539521813
God Almoghty is my eternal Lover. I am the Dad in the relationship.
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>>539519847
>>539519882
>>539519895
>>539519912
>>539519919
Jesus rose from the dead, and that's a proven historical fact.
Christianity is the true and correct religion.
We will continue to spread it, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.

Christianity is true.
God is real.
Demons are real.
Hell is real.
Heaven is real.
Jesus is Lord.

https://www.reasonablefaith.org/writings/scholarly-writings

https://laurazpowell.org/blog/just-the-facts-maam-the-minimal-facts-argument-for-the-resurrection-of-jesus

>The best explanation for the facts agreed upon by virtually every scholar of every religious persuasion and worldview who has studied the evidence is that Jesus actually rose from the dead. If someone wants to dispute this, they must deal with the evidence, including the criteria for historical reliability, and offer some reason why this explanation falls short or provide a better explanation for the facts.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=12syh8dPOto

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzklRPDfAj0

https://capturingchristianity.com/fact-fiction-resurrection-jesus-comprehensive-case/

https://crossexamined.org/the-minimal-facts-of-the-resurrection/
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>>539521855
>Jesus rose from the dead, and that's a proven historical fact.
Nope
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>>539519847
Christianity is "foreign" but the Bible also speaks timeless truths going back to the nomadry of Abraham, the enslavement of Joseph and later the Hebrews as a whole, Haman's plot to wipe out the Jews, and Jesus' time with the poor and outcast. The Bible is a product of a specific time and place but it also touches on something that exists everywhere all the time. There's a reason it has inspired the only people meaningfully opposing the Jews today, the Islamic Resistance in the form of the IRGC, Hizb'Allah, Hamas, and the Houthis. Make what you will of latecomers like Paul and Mohammed who essentially created Christianity and Islam as they exist today, if you dive into raw Abrahamism you will see what I'm talking about.
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>>539521781
Based USA. This is why the average bong is poorer than the average nigger in the poorest US state. Because the british have fallen out of grace with God.
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>>539521880
Edom never have a lasting empire, and that's a historical fact.
>If Edom says, “We are shattered but we will rebuild the ruins,” the LORD of hosts says, “They may build, but I will tear down, and they will be called ‘the wicked country,’ and ‘the people with whom the LORD is angry forever.’”
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>>539521242
I would say that we've adopted more aggression out of necessity; you can't be tolerant with something that doesn't tolerate your own existence. But regardless, that is important feedback I think. This thread was a new strategy along these lines of taking a step back and asking you guys to talk, rather than have a back and forth with memes accusing each other of being jews.

In regards to sacrifice, it's worth mentioning that it's a dead concept in modern heathenry. It's naturally evolved into "offerings" just like in other religions; what do you think the tithe at church is for example? In terms of the purpose of it in the past, it's multi layered. Spiritual food for the gods, because the priests and their families traditionally eat the actual physical food. Afterall, they need to eat too. But it also serves as a two way relationship between the supplicant and the god. You're not just begging for things, you are making a meaningful and very expensive gesture. Afterall, what does a human even have that a god would care about? Especially in those times.
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>>539519919
>Christian morals are superior to pagan morals and are the backbone of Western civilization as we know it today
This is complete bullshit btw. The Enlightenment emerged from and built upon the Scientific Revolution

It was secularism brought us constitutional government, the separation of church and state, and the application of rational principles to social and political reform.

Christians always rewriting world history to make themselves the hero even though their retarded religion held humanity back for literally 2000 years and is still doing it.
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>>539521796
>Stop turning the other cheek and cleaning feets of niggers. Be compassionate towards the weak
What of those who are weak of mind, or weak of spirit? Surely you don't mean only the physically weak.

>>539521810
Yes actually, and it's even explicitly said in the bible.
>The Jerusalem Council, as recorded in Acts 15, was convened to address the controversy surrounding the necessity of circumcision for Gentile believers. Certain individuals from Judea were teaching, "Unless you are circumcised according to the custom of Moses, you cannot be saved" (Acts 15:1). This teaching caused significant debate and division among the early Christians. The apostles and elders gathered to consider this matter, and after much discussion, Peter stood up and reminded them that God had already given the Holy Spirit to the Gentiles, just as He had to the Jews, without the requirement of circumcision (Acts 15:7-11). The council ultimately concluded that circumcision was not necessary for salvation, emphasizing that salvation is through the grace of the Lord Jesus (Acts 15:11).

Now, the fact this retarded practice is still done in the US is entirely due to jewish influence but not the religion itself. I would think you would know this.
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>>539521927
You're not a Christian, Gook boy
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>>539521926
The USA still has a remaining Christian population because it is brown. If you break down religion based on demographics you'll see whites identify as Christians much less than browns and mutts.
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>>539520437
God proved to satan that Job can remain faithful without divine intervention because he wasn't a faith based do nothing hypocrite. It's too bad all the good shit from the old canon gets dismissed in favor of worshipping a jewish man who died for your sins
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>>539521962
>Yes actually
Which also means it was objectively wrong when the God of the bible commanded it.
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>>539521966
I graduated from a catholic christian School, and international college singing praise to God Almighty. My root will always be to God Almighty.

Your root will always be that of a cursed edomite.
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>>539521249
Well, that's not correct. He makes constant reference to the Torah/Tanakh, as well as validating and pushing the 613 Mitzvot. Jesus' entire legitimacy is built upon what came before him. To separate the two is directly controverting what is said in the bible itself, and nearly every branch of Christianity. This is part of why we have a hard time taking e-Christians seriously. Paul is the one who in essence invented the idea that it was a new covenant and that the laws no longer applied to gentile converts. In that regard, Jesus repeatedly speaks against the gentiles and exhorts his apostles not to go to them. How do you reconcile that?
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>>539522007
Yeah the most Christian countries are pretty much all shitholes, except for USA (because it's a secular nation cosplaying as a christian nation desu).
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>>539522033
>My root will always be cartoons
Ftfy Gook boy. You're an anti christ
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>>539522072
I am the chosen ONE of God Almighty. The One and only.
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>>539521936
>It's naturally evolved into "offerings" just like in other religions; what do you think the tithe at church is for example?
As someone into both history and also the occult, I have to say you are conflating two very different things. From the beginning tithing was always understood as material support, to run the orphanages and churches and charities and other such things. There is no spiritual component to it.
Offerings in other religions actually have a spiritual component to it, and you are supposed to dispose of the offerings afterwards (burning, burial, etc.) and NOT consume them, so it is entirely NOT support in the way you portray it. If modern heathens do this, then they are effectively larping from the eyes of those they adopted such practices from.
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>>539522099
Thanks for proving me right, Gook boy
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Because it's better than every other religion, and the universe obviously must have a creator.

hinduism- too decentralized, some families don't believe in certain gods while others do.

Buddhism- Buddha tells you to find Nirvana, but doesn't tell exactly how to get to Nirvana. He's a fraud.

Islam- created by barbarian niggers
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>>539521810
your question is retarded to begin with because "objectively wrong" cannot exist indpendently of god/a prior mind, if there is no god then all judgement is subjective and i hope you realize what that means, i could explain to you how this is true through the fact that the mind is the only thing that evaluates things such as right and wrong but i cant be bothered, youll get there if you reason honestly and truthfully, if there is no god then nihilism is true and if nihilism is true you have no reason not to choose faith because its the only way to have even a chance to meaning, either way faith in god is what gives true meaning, much love
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>>539522142
You are never right about anything. Always lie and seethe like a plague rat that you are.
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>>539521880
Yep.
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>>539522154
>then all judgement is subjective
Christian morality sure. It all hinges on how men interpret "God". Hence why Christianity has so many divisions
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>>539522061
Why the disparaging language, what the fuck is an e-Christian? I wont reply to you again, but here is some milk and honey for you.

He was also baptized, and He said 'suffer it to be so now' because he didn't need to be baptized, but it was a symbol for the gathered crowd for those with eyes to see to recognize Him. Same reason Jesus didn't need to have his genitals mutilated. Circumcision is of the heart. A child is still innocent and so is their heart. Only God can know your heart (which is in secret), but everyone can see your genitals...seems kind of silly to claim God needs to perform physical surgery on genitals to proclaim His sovereignty over our souls...therefor it is our hearts. You can cut off your genitals and live...but if you cut out your heart, you wont live. If you cut off your genitals are you no longer considered circumcised?

The OT is old wine and the ancient Hebrews are the old bottles (or wine skins). Jesus came to pay the debts because we could not fulfill the physical laws He set forth for those generations. The NT is the new wine and Believers are the new bottles (or wine skins). The OT had a chosen people to carry out His laws but they couldn't meet the standards (and He knew they wouldn't be able to)...the OT is all about physical. The NT has a chosen people to carry out His laws but to meet the standard we have to go through Jesus Christ because He followed all of the OT laws and provided the Holy Spirit to guide us to Him. The NT is all about spirit. This is why the Bible says "The first will be last and the last will be first." This applies to His chosen people among other things.
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>>539522162
>You are never right about anything
You're a brown eyed Gook
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>>539521885
What does it have that is unique and did not exist in other mythologies and traditions?
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>>539522231
Nope
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>>539522241
As if you have a perfect morality when you are just a seething mutilated cattle.
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>>539522266
I am the King of Heaven and Earth.
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>>539522282
>As if you have a perfect morality
I have better morality than you
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>>539522154
this is such a childlike and myopic understanding of ethics and harm reduction principles lol
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>>539522314
The strong is good, and the weak is evil. That's morality.
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>>539522300
Your sister thinks your a dweeb. So do your parents
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>>539522334
>and the weak is evil
Nice self own Gook boy
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>>539522346
My sister study computer, and work in IT due to my influcence.
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>>539522279
Yep.
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>>539521962
Actually, the jews are for once not to blame for this one as insane as that sounds. It was a man named Kellogg (yes, the cereal guy). He was part of a Christian anti-masturbation movement and was obsessed with the topic. He thought the problems with young men came from sexual gratification. He thought that if you had them circumcised (makes masturbation much more difficult) and gave them bland foods that would kill libido, they'd become better students and not get into trouble. They helped sell it to the public as a necessary medical procedure for sanitary purposes. Similar to how they sold shaving razors to women, telling them it was for sanitary reasons.

So this one is on the Christians. However, the continuation of it is definitely in large part jews, citing that a ban on it is discrimination. The hospitals also make a killing off of it so they have monetary incentive.
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>>539522370
Only God is good, because only God is capable of Creation. You are all worthless garbage compare to God Almighty.
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>>539522384
>My sister study computer, and work in IT
That's why your patents respect her and not you
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>>539522397
Nope
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>>539521121
Atheists rape kids and created NAMBLA.
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>>539522413
Cartoons aren't real, Gook boy
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>>539522415
My family cannot function without Me. They all cling to me.
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>>539519847
where there is a pagan community that helps its own and isn't a gathering of left-wing idiots or right-wing autists?
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>>539522458
You are an atheist loser who deny God. Now. You denied the existence of cartoon. How much more are you going to deny?
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>>539522460
>My family cannot function without Me
Kek, you're a disappointment to them
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>>539521529
Satanists are behind the Happy Merchant meme

Pick your Champion
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>>539522256
Ah, you're the old wine guy from the last thread.
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>>539522490
>You denied the existence of cartoon. How much more are you going to deny?
Kek.
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>>539521955
Christianity created science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqcnsy7pZ-k
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVENkH6AsYgT-CYuaZRqGjl

Atheism did nothing but bring misery and destruction.
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>>539519882
fpbp
God doesn't owe you fuckers a truth you like
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>>539522445
>Atheists rape kids
As do many religious
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>>539522496
I am not obliged to answer anyone expectation.
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>>539522323
>harm reduction principles
I can tell you're a spiteful mutant redditor by the way you talk.
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>>539522527
>Christianity created science.
No, Aristotle created science. You're a retard.
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>>539522527
>Christianity created science
Nope
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>justify kikestianity for me
not so subtle jew thread

also Paul was not a pharisee that converted he was a double agent sent by jews to destabilise Rome with their stupid judeo cult

Paul PREDATES the gospel. That's why he can't make a single quote from Jesus because their fictional rabbi hasn't been cobbled up yet
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>>539521649
This shit is so fucking retarded, early Christians had no idea Christianity would ever get as big as it is now. For all they knew it could've stayed small and obscure forever, so your "trojan horse" narrative doesn't work. This is pure retardation. It's literally revolting how a tiny embryo can grow up to be such a worthless retard.
>>539522256
Broooooooo you're being such an e-crusader... you should watch adam green and his retarded ass streams and tweets!
>>539522458
Why so angry?
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>>539522548
Thanks for confirming your family hates you
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>>539522521
Cry and seethe. You exist only to serve me.
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>>539522557
>Aristotle created science.
Wrong, retard.
Christianity created science.
Atheists destroyed it.
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>>539522530
The Divinity you worship is but a jewish idol
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>>539522541
No, atheists rape kids.

NAMBLA was created by atheists.
Vaush defends pedophilia and child pornography.
Mao fucked a 14 year old girl.
Atheist "intellectuals" in France supported abolishing the age of consent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petition_against_age_of_consent_laws
Foucault raped children
Charles Fourier wanted to fuck children.
The MAPs movement was started by atheists.
Socialized "public" school teachers are far more likely to molest their students than catholic priests.
Numerous atheists have been outed as pedophiles.
Atheists defended Joseph Rosenbaum, a child rapist.
John Money, the father of modern transgender movement, was an atheist who sexually abused children.
Alfred Kinsey was an atheist pedophile hero.
The famous atheist John Maynard Keynes frequently traveled to third world nations to have sex with boys.

https://4w.pub/old-dominion-university-assistant-professor-comes-out-in-support-of-destigmatizing-pedophilia/

https://streamable.com/hx77vh
https://streamable.com/dyy2gh
https://streamable.com/on2byc
https://twitter.com/GodEmpanada/status/1476733086217949186
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHNeOLl1hOs
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>>539522575
>Why so angry?
Why do you assume that?
>>539522584
>Cry and seethe
No need to project
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>>539522032
Did you not read the passage? The circumcision is still done, now it's just the spirit version.

>>539522061
The ultra tl:dr; version (it's late) is that man was fallen and sacrifices and other old covenants were a thing to bridge the gap (temporarily) between man and the divine, that's why you would sacrifice regularly, such as the first of the season or a little bit every time you lit the hearth as homage to Hestia or whatever the specific tradition of the area was. Keyword there being temporary or stopgaps. Christianity came along and said "Christ has paid the ultimate price, overriding (fulfilling) the need for sacrifices in totality." This is basic lore that I'm confident on.
As to the gentile warning thing, there are many accounts of gentiles being healed such as the good samaritan to name one, and it's kind of understood that it's to everyone, given the existence of passages like: matthew 28:18-20
"Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
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>>539522560
Yep.
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>>539522580
My family do love me. But their love is nothing compare to the love from God.
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>>539522568
Note that I preceded the Paul part with "whether or not Jesus was jewish" or some such. I was trying to make them comfortable with a discussion by going off what they push, and not what we all obviously know.
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>>539522323
can you explain to me where my chain logically breaks? i hope you realize that there is no "ought" independent of god, do you realize that the only thing in our world produces "ought" is the mind? however human minds are finite and cannot produce an objective ought, for you to have an objective ought and for it to matter you need a prior mind in which everything exists, this is what i call god, god is the base layer consciousness of reality in which everything exists, thus life doesnt arise from non life, life arises from life, consciousness arises from consciousness and perception from perception, i dont bother myself with the idea "is this wrong?" or "is this right?" because if there is no god that question itself becomes irrelevant, and if there is a god you have no say in what is right or wrong, if god is in which everything exists he is truth, truth doesnt arise from him but he himself is truth, therefore gods being is what is right and going against his being is what is wrong, youre either aligned with reality or youre not aligned, this is what sin is, sin is misalignment with reality because god is reality and truth, being gay isnt bad because god chose its bad, its bad because it doesnt align with the truth of reality just like any other sin doesnt
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>>539522598
>Christianity created science
Nope

>>539522615
>No, atheists rape kids.
As do many Christians
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>>539522433
Yep.
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>>539522618
We can talk aout God for another 20 years before you hit the coffin. I will make sure to look back to this times with joy
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>>539519847
We are Israel, he is our god, the enemy has convinced you that OUR birthright is THEIRS. Which is why Jesus called the Jews liars, and which is why they demanded his death.

I was raised by "the universe is god" hippy babble parents, and have only been to church once, which was a major disappointment (Christian rock, fog machine and lasers, collection plate and see your way out).
I never considered Christianity seriously, it seemed self evident that it was the opiate of the masses.
It wasn't until I literally fell to my knees and asked god to help me, that I felt his presence, like the finger tip of some incomprehensible wisdom, understanding, forgiveness and power tapped upon my heart and it was undeniable, so too were the effects on my life.

I have had many pre-cognitive dreams, many many lucid dreams, and then another type of dream, that was somewhere in between. When I was a boy I would sometimes have these Very odd dreams, and had figured they were just anomalous dreams. It wasn't until I listened to David Suchet read the bible that I began to recognize scenes from my dreams, in a book I had never read. (Jesus casting the legion of demons into the swine, which drown themselves in the ocean.) Also the beast of revelation emerging from the sea..

Once you develop a relationship with the true and living god, you realize he has been knocking at the door your whole life.
There will be great wailing and gnashing of teeth, in the outer darkness, away from God's light. God loves his children as I love mine, infinitely more because he has infinitely more capacity to love. He came to our forefathers, in a form we could understand, and defeated sin and death so that we may be with him, in his light.

It's not too late to open the door to Jesus Christ, prodigal son.
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>>539519882
Do you know what Jehovah's Witnesses call their cult?
>The Truth
>Oh did you hear about Johnny? He fucked Mary now they both fell out of "the Truth"
>We've had a talk with Lebron he's been smoking a lot of crack he won't make in "the Truth"
>We are only ones who learn "the Truth" of the Bible
That's something you say, "the Truth", when you don't have an answer. You'll do well do search your beliefs and be honest with yourself as to what and why they are what they are.
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>>539522629
>Did you not read the passage?
God changed his mind. Lol
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>>539522632
You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
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>>539519847
>You've heard all the arguments from us heathens and pagans on here
I only hear baseless claims and inane schizo rants. You never had even one argument at all. You just repeat the same reddit bullshit day after day for over a decade now.
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>>539522652
>Nope
Yep.
>As do many Christians
No, atheists rape kids.
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>>539519847
So done with Christianity, I've seen that sick religion hollow out entire communities with empty corpo swine and mystery brown meat from halfway across the fucking planet, death to Christianity!
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>>539522695
You're not an honest person
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>>539522598
Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle were setting the groundwork for modern science before Christianity was even an idea in anyone's head. You genuinely don't know what you're talking about, you look like a moron, and no one is impressed by the propaganda you memorized.
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>>539522671
>We are Israel
riveting, now face the wall
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>>539522658
There is zero evidence outside the bible about a supernatural Jesus
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>>539522677
>If someone else claims X is the truth, then Y is NOT the truth.
Atheist pseudo-"logic", everyone.
Shame that atheists took formal logic out of schools to dumb people down to their level.
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>>539522269
Things that stand out to me in particular are its firm stance against idolatry, its dietary sense of "all plants are clean, and the animals that eat only plants or swim only in rough waters are clean too", its prohibition of sex with supernatural beings (if you read the extended canon in the Book of Enoch), and its endorsement of violent resistance to oppression going back to topic of the Islamic Resistance against the Jews (something the peaceable Eastern religions might struggle with).
I would love to continue answering questions but I do need to leave for work soon, I'll see if the thread is still alive later today if I have time.
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>>539522398
I am well aware of Kellog. I see this though as effectively "hmm, we want X, how do we sell it? Hot dog, look at Kellog there. He's full of shit but whatever we can use this".
Thank you though, I often just skip to the end and neglect to explain the finer details. A good reminder to me that unless I actually type out all said finer details, people will obviously not make the same connections I assume made.
Yes the puritans also did a number on the collective psyche of the nation. I'll need to make an effort post on them one day.
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>>539522684
I'm right and you're wrong.
You're not welcome to "your truth", which is the bullshit you atheists love to say.
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>>539522769
>I'm right
Not really
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>>539522713
I'm infinitely more honest than an atheist.
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>>539522615
>Doesn't understand per capita.
Tranny
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>>539522686
>I only hear baseless claims and inane schizo rants.
How about this: Your "holy" text says we should aid our enemies, becoming traitors, which is reason enough to condemn all of Christianity:
>>539521649
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>>539522792
>I'm infinitely more honest
Yet you post a strawman.

You really are a disingenuous person
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>>539519847
>heathens and pagans
both christian terms btw
christlarpers and larpagans are both hilarious
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>>539522719
>setting the groundwork
Not science.
Christianity created science.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eqcnsy7pZ-k

Also, Plato and Aristotle were philosophers. You don't even know what you're babbling about.

Typical stupid and ignorant atheist.
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>>539522145

>Buddhism- Buddha tells you to find Nirvana, but doesn't tell exactly how to get to Nirvana. He's a fraud.

Noble Eightfold Path outlines how to get there.
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>>539522792
>I'm infinitely more honest than an atheist.
Is this supposed to be ironic, given the extremely dishonest strawman in the image you posted?
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>>539522725
desu for a moment
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>>539522793
shit i meant to reply to this post >>539522541
my bad m8
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>>539522819
You're too stupid and dishonest for these conversations

>>539522845
Try again kiddo
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>>539522819
>Christianity created science.
No, that isn't the case.

Stop linking vapid youtube propaganda and make an argument in your own words like an adult. If you want to cite a source, cite the actual source, no one is going to watch your high school windows movie maker shit.
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Putrid g*ntile thread... I'm outta here!
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>>539519882
Cult psychology. This is what Christbrain looks like.
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>>539522671
>(Jesus casting the legion of demons into the swine, which drown themselves in the ocean.) Also the beast of revelation emerging from the sea..

>cast demons into the sea
>demons come out of the sea
>demons upset and wet
>"wtf?"
made me lol.
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>>539522736
1. Wrong.
2. Documents that got included in the Bible are sufficient.
You don't get to exclude a whole swathe of documents just because you're a stupid heathencuck who hates Jesus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZ19K_W0qA4
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>>539519944
The famous saying from the Bible is "no one has ever seen god and lived"

You're the exception though. Are you the asian megalomaniac schizo guy?
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>>539522944
>1. Wrong
I dint see you posting any evidence outside the bible supernatural Jesus

>>539522944
>Documents that got included in the Bible are sufficient
Nope
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>>539522789
Yes really.
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>>539522978
Nope.
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>>539522922
YHWH WAS THE FIRST RACIST!
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>>539522958
And this is the famous qouted from the most famous person on the entire history of humanity.
>Matthew 5:8
>Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God.
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>>539522829
>strawman
Wrong.
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>>539522944
>Documents that got included in the Bible are sufficient.
No, they need independent verification. You should know basic epistemology like this, since you claim Christianity invented it.
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>>539523037
>doubles down on strawman
Like I said, you are too stupid and disingenuous to have these conversations
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>>539523039
>No
Yes
>they need independent verification
By what?
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>>539523027
>>Blessed are the pure in heart
Thats not you
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>>539522719
>Greek philosophers like Plato and Aristotle were setting the groundwork for modern science before Christianity was even an idea in anyone's head
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>>539520528
Christianity, especially as a South African you must understand this, is not racial, it welcomes all people into a melting pot.
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>>539522975
>Nope
Yep.
>>539522990
>Nope
Yep.
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>>539523095
I accept your concession
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>>539523077
You are not the judge for that. God is. You are a garbage anti-christ shitters full of stupid ugly anti-christ memes.
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>>539522705
Kitty History, somewhere out in the staaaars
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>>539520024
How is it possible for anyone to predict 100% of the future yet still believe in free will?
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>>539519847
>You've heard all the arguments from us heathens and pagans on here
We've heard your critical theory (based and redpilled edition) on Christianity, you haven't tried to convince us of paganism, not once.
>convince US
No need, you're an irrelevant minority.
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>>539523095
You're just a sad retard.
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>>539520091
Christians have no answer to this.
Europe is successful because it's white, not because it's christian. Non white christian countries are shitholes just like non white non christian countries are.
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>>539522825
Youre right honestly.

However another thing I don't like about Buddhism is that Nirvana isn't explained much other than it is a state of extreme enlightenment. Christianity is very well articulated, while some aspects of Buddhism are "unexplainable". A goal that can not be articulated will always be much less believable than one that can.
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>>539523119
>You are not the judge for that
You demonstrate it
>>539523119
>You are a garbage anti-christ shitters full of stupid ugly anti-christ memes
Says the Gook who puts himself and cartoons over Christ
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>>539522975
The martyrdom of James son of Zebedee, James the brother of Jesus, Paul the Apostle, Simon Peter, the 500 eyewitnesses, etc.
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>>539523060
I just quoted an atheist, stupid heathen.
(Who coincidentally went to Epstein's island, by the way.)
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>>539523154
>irrelevant minority.
You are only a majority among browns. Christianity is dead in white countries, unfortunately its slave morality persists in the form of secularized leftism.
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>>539523184
Prove any of these people actually existed lol
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>>539523171
God Almighty is above everything. Can you say the same? You don't.

These past years are not a lie.

You certainly hate Jesus Christ.
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>>539519847
>You've heard all the arguments from us heathens and pagans on here, yet in the end you choose Christianity.

Autistic screeching about how it's worshiping jews isn't an argument.
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>>539522934
>In the beginning God [...] was hovering over the WATERS.
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It’s simply the truth. It’s about the God who made everything. The shroud of Turin is real too btw.
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>>539522738
Excuse me I know things are hard for you over their in the land of the cuckhold but that's not what I was saying and I'm not an Atheist so fuck off you annoying wanker
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>>539523227
>I just quoted an atheist
Nope
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>>539519882
i follow god, not a religion, like Yeshua the christ followed god too.
Jesus is my bro and i respect and love him, he is not my lord, my lord is GOD, and yeshua's lord was the same GOD, moses the same, budha the same, muhammad the same, they are religious prophets, but there are secular ones too—such as Socrates, Frédéric Bastiat, Giordano Bruno, and so on. false religions followers are not closer to GOD than non-religious people; those who draw near to the truth are children of GOD, like those prophets or those intellectuals, while those who draw near to falsehood are children of the devil.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNOC8s-ersY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Tb7u0Dfegc
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>>539519895
based! Christianity was formed to save Rome
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>>539523107
Back at you, heathencuck
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>>539523239
>You certainly hate Jesus Christ
Says the Gook boy who puts himself and cartoons above Christ
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>>539519847
Ireland was peacefully coverted from heathen darkness op christian truth over a thousand years ago. You and your pagan shit, they converted because they knew that paganism was shit. Smarter than you. And when he pagan nose came, he defeaed them under Christs proecion.

You are going to go to hell.

For god and s.patrick and our sacred isle.
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>>539523164
Back at you, heathencuck
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>>539521855
Daily reminder that this schizo gook is antiwhite
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>>539523276
Says the clown who only operates in strawman and bearing false witnesses

Why is lying so easy for you?
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>>539523234
You're a retard
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>>539523166
>Europe is successful because it's white
Didn't work too well for the Eastern Bloc or the EU then.
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>>539523284
I put everyone except God Almighty below Me.
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>>539523274
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>>539523153
Free will is a function of what you are, your intellect and your rational faculties, nothing to do with prediction or unpredictability
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>>539523331
Including Jesus
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>>539519919
I think christianity tolerates too much weakness.
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>>539523356
My word is pretty clear.
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>>539523321
You are brown:
>>539521781
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>>539523331
You have a superiority complex and a hugely distorted vision of what Christianity is about, even by schizo Christian standards.
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>>539523166
Wrong
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1mr9ZTZb3TVENkH6AsYgT-CYuaZRqGjl
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>>539523073
>By what?
a source independent from the Bible. I like how you don't even have a high school leevl understanding of how research is conducted, while bragging about how Christianity invented the methodology. It's cartoonish behavior.
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>>539522806
>How about this: Your "holy" text says we should aid our enemies, becoming traitors, which is reason enough to condemn all of Christianity:
So you're a Pacifist? But Pacifism is un-Christian and pagan in origin, what is your point even? As I said:
>You never had even one argument at all. You just repeat the same reddit bullshit day after day for over a decade now.
How often do you want to be debunked this time?

But nice of you to show OP why you will always lose.
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>>539523342
>Free will
Is impossible when you bend the knee to a God who's will supercedes yours

>>539523367
Sure is. You're an anti christ
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>>539520024
>An atual Godlike entity with power beyond human comprehension

AND HE'S CIRCUMCISED
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>>539523374
Yoi can tell that I have a God-complex.
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>>539523238
Prove any ancient person existed, stupid heathencuck
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>>539523238
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>>539523424
I accept your concession again
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>>539523166
Retard. Explain then why eurofags were so powerful 200 years ago and now they are irrelevant.
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>>539523301
saved
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>>539523443
>still can't do it
Lmao
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>>539523396
I am the chosen ONE of God Almighty, and my name is Michael.
This is the anti-christ which describe you people perfectly.
>Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
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Full text:
https://archive.org/details/berossus-and-genesis-manetho-and-exodus-hellenistic-histories-and-the-date-of-th

Russell Gmirkin proposes a revolutionary thesis: the entire Pentateuch (Genesis through Deuteronomy) was written in the third century BCE (specifically 273–272 BCE), rather than during the Persian or Exilic periods. Gmirkin argues that the text was collaboratively composed by jewish scholars in Alexandria, Egypt, and relies heavily on Hellenistic-era historical and geographical writings.

Literary Dependence on Greek Texts: Rather than drawing on ancient Near Eastern oral traditions or early documents, the biblical authors made direct use of recently published Hellenistic histories housed in the Library of Alexandria.

Genesis and Berossus: The creation, Garden of Eden, and flood narratives in Genesis 1–11 are uniquely and specifically dependent upon the Babyloniaca written by the Babylonian priest Berossus in 278 BCE.

Exodus and Manetho: The Exodus story was largely written as a counter-narrative to the Aegyptiaca (History of Egypt) by the Egyptian historian Manetho (c. 285–280 BCE), which portrayed the ancestors of the jews as lepers and undesirable foreigners who were expelled from Egypt.

The Table of Nations: The geographical and political data points in Genesis 10 (the Table of Nations) reflect the geopolitical realities of the early Hellenistic world rather than the second millennium BCE.

The Septuagint Parallel: Gmirkin connects the authorship of the Hebrew Pentateuch to the jewish scholars traditionally credited with translating the Septuagint (the Greek translation of the Hebrew Bible) under Ptolemy II.

State Sponsorship: He suggests the Bible was commissioned as an approved, foundational national literature for the jewish diaspora in Alexandria.

TL;DR, the Bible is non-historical, including the New Testament which depends on it being a true documentary source.
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>>539523257
You said
>That's something you say, "the Truth", when you don't have an answer.
That's a non sequitur.
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>>539523370
Yup! You caught me! Shieeet nigguh wasssup!
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>>539523472
>and my name is Michael.
The brown eyed Gook of /pol/ lmao
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>>539523396
>Is impossible when you bend the knee to a God
Non sequitur
We really need to bring back formal logic, which atheists removed from schools to dumb people down to their level
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>>539523483
cope
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>>539523379
>a source independent from the Bible
Why?
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>>539523380
>So you're a Pacifist?
What? Are you too stupid to read? The Bible is radically pacifist and says in clear words, "Aid your enemy.":
>If your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.

How do you defend this sentence, you illiterate hyper-retard?
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>>539523502
Your mockery is a proof of my superiority.
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>>539523450
Back at you, heathencuck
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>>539523509
Why did you leave out the rest of the quote?

Very dishonest of you
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>>539523537
You have zero legitimate arguments
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>>539523473
The Bible is completely historical and even confirmed by archaeology (which most ancient documents aren't).
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>>539523533
Whatever cope helps you get by Gook boy
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>>539523526
John 18:38
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>>539522742
Do you rank all of those as good things for Western civilization? And superior to the native religions and traditions that Western civilization had created itself?
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>>539519847
Jesus isn't jewish, Jesus is the founder of Christianity, he's a Christian, dumbass.
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>>539523563
Wrong. You don't.
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>>539523577
>The Bible is completely historical and even confirmed by archaeology
There's zero proof of a mass Exodus of Hebrews out of Egypt like the bible described
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>>539523585
I am above you, and always will be, that's why you have a desire to bring me down.
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>>539523601
>Wrong
Nah I'm right. Hence why you have zero arguments

Just dogma
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>>539523614
There's zero proof of almost any ancient event.
That doesn't mean nothing happened in ancient times.
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
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>>539519882
It's universalist cancer from the middle-east. It's the first and most essential building block of western liberal democracy and its cancerous spread.
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>>539519847
Here is the answer you retards circlejerking eachother in your cq spaces are not ready for.

Because it works. It gives people a solution to nihilism by giving them purpose and it builds social cohesion because it's the glue that's been around for centuries. None of you has ever proposed an alternative that is of equal proportions. You will say "just be pro White bro" and then you get stuck in a perpetual loop of arguing over perceived intra-white hierarchies or you will say "just be pagan bro go back to the ancestors" ignoring that this also means we will fight eachother at which point christianity becomes a weapon to be used by one tribe against the other. Furthermore, you claim tribalism while using an imperial identity in White. Your alternatives are full of contradictions. People use Christianity because it just works. Simple as.
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>>539523625
>that's why you have a desire to bring me down.
This is literally what you do.
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>>539523634
Nah, you're wrong. Hence why you have zero arguments.
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>>539523600
So Jews who abandon Judaism no longer Jewish? Does this also apply to browns who convert to Christianity? Are they now part of the tribe? Jesus over genes?
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>>539523666
Heathencuckery is cancer.
Europe thrived under Christianity.
Europe is dying under heathencuckery.
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>>539523666
W I T N E S S E D
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>>539523651
>There's zero proof of almost any ancient event.
Thanks for agreeing with me

>>539523651
>That doesn't mean nothing happened in ancient times
How would you know of it did happen?
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>>539523473
The Elephantine papyri (c. 495–399 BCE) document a Jewish military colony in Egypt that possessed its own temple to Yahu (Yahweh) and engaged in practices that contradict the Deuteronomistic law central to modern Jewish historicity. This community lacked knowledge of the Torah or written Hebrew Bible, offering sacrifices at a local temple rather than in Jerusalem, which challenges the narrative that monotheistic centralization was universally established by the Persian period.

Key implications for the historicity of Judaism include:

Syncretistic Worship: Inscriptions reveal the invocation of deities like Anat-Yahu and Asherah alongside Yahweh, suggesting the transition to strict monotheism occurred later or was not uniform across the Diaspora.
Absence of Biblical Authority: The community’s leaders petitioned the High Priest in Jerusalem for ritual guidance but never cited biblical law, indicating the Pentateuch was not yet the authoritative text for all Judeans.

Dating of Biblical Texts: Since these papyri predate all extant Hebrew Bible manuscripts, they suggest that the codification of Jewish law and the suppression of polytheistic elements may have been a later development, potentially post-dating the Persian period.
Ultimately, Elephantine reveals a pluralistic religious landscape where Jewish identity was defined more by ethnic and political ties to Jerusalem than by adherence to a unified, monotheistic scripture

>more evidence jewish monotheism didn't even exist before 300 BC Alexandria. None of the bible happened except echoes of Babylonian, Greek, and Egyptian creation stories and histories. Then the Hellenic jews slapped that all together and dipped it in Yahweh sauce and called it the most ancient religion on earth.
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>>539523678
>Hence why you have zero arguments
Says the idiot who agreed with me lol
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>>539523728
nigger
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>>539519847
like democracy: it may be awful sometimes, but it kinda works and alternatves were tried and turned worse
avoid jewed american version tho, it's basically reskin of zionism
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Well is poisoned by Trannies, Jeets & Turecels.
Now is not the time to gripe, It's time for War; a war you don't want because you're cooked unless you could just keep everyone goy maxing. Too late Tannies, shitjeets & Kikes.
Continue to scream through. Great for lol harvesting
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>>539523667
But it's universalist and gives no protections against having your society flooded with non-whites. How is that helpful unless you want a globohomo brown mutt christoid golem planet?
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You didn't read the whole post did you?
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>>539523285
I grew up in Cork, I know what you bogtrotters are truly like. Christianity is dying there after all the scandals, and rightly so. A septic tank full of dead babies and countless raped children killed the Jewish god there. What comes next will be interesting. In the end, your churches will disappear, but those standing stones out in the fields will remain. This is your doom.
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>>539523169
I thought Nirvana was becoming one with the universal force, and you don't have to do the live, die, repeat cycle anymore, but maybe that's just head canon, I pieced together from mildly paying attention to media's depictions. But overall, fair enough.
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>>539519919
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>>539520747
Christianity is globohomo. If you think the current turbo-cucked modern western liberal system is good and works, you are truly lost.
Christcuckery and mudslimeism are universalist homogenising ideologies that teach you that everyone is the same and that you should, nay, you MUST spread that ideology, by force if necessary, to every people in every corner of the world, to force them to become just as you are, because at the end of the day they are just blank standard template humans. These religions are the same, and bad for the same reasons as globohomo. I have nothing in common with you foreigner animals and I'm tired of pretending I do.
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>>539523666
Universalism doesnt imply race mixing. It implies Empire. Every citizen of the Empire is subject to the same law code and has a shared belief system of some sort. The identity White is itself imperial. The empire will always defeat the tribe.
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>>539523726
The Elephantine Papyri (5th century BCE) reveal a Jewish community whose religious practice conspicuously lacks core concepts that later defined normative Judaism. These absences suggest that central tenets of the Torah and Deuteronomic law were either unknown or not yet authoritative for this diaspora group.

1. Absence of Biblical Narratives and Patriarchs
The most striking omission is the total lack of reference to the foundational stories of the Pentateuch.

No Patriarchs or Heroes: Among over 160 Jewish names recorded, none derive from biblical figures such as Abraham, Jacob, Joseph, Moses, Samuel, or David.
No Exodus Tradition: The papyri contain no mention of the Exodus from Egypt, the bondage in Egypt, or any other historical event recorded in the Torah. Scholars note that "Moses might never have existed" based solely on these texts.
No Written Torah: The community never appeals to the authority of a written law or "Book of Moses" in their legal or religious disputes, even when corresponding with Jerusalem.
2. Violation of Centralization and Monotheism
The community’s theology and cultic practice contradict the strict monotheism and centralization mandated in Deuteronomy.

Polytheistic/Henotheistic Pantheon: Alongside Yahu (Yahweh), the papyri explicitly invoke Anat-Yahu (possibly a consort), Ashim-Bethel, and Anat-Bethel. This suggests a polytheistic or henotheistic system where Yahweh was part of a divine family, rather than the sole deity.
Local Temple Sacrifices: They maintained a fully functional temple at Elephantine offering animal sacrifices and incense. This directly violates the Deuteronomic law requiring all sacrifices to be performed solely at the Temple in Jerusalem. The Jerusalem priesthood’s correspondence with them shows no condemnation of this "heretical" practice, implying the law of centralization was not yet enforced or accepted.
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>>539523726
Who IS Jehovah?
I'm not even sure, I don't think I'll ever know. Maybe when I die, I'll meet him in some purgatory somewhere.
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>>539521140
It's thai schizo
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>>539523995
3. Lack of Sabbath Observance
Contrary to the later strict prohibition of work on the Sabbath, the Elephantine Jews appear to have treated the seventh day as a normal business day.

Commercial Activity: Legal documents, marriage contracts, and loan agreements are explicitly dated to and executed on the Sabbath.
No Ritual Rest: There is no evidence of the Sabbath as a day of rest or holy convocation in their daily life, suggesting the codification of Sabbath law was a later development or not universally binding in the 5th century BCE.

4. Absence of Dietary Laws (Kashrut)
The papyri show no evidence of Kashrut (kosher dietary laws).

Dietary Freedom: The community’s records mention the consumption of various animals without distinction between clean and unclean species. There are no references to prohibitions against pork or shellfish, nor any separation of meat and milk, which are central to later Jewish identity.

5. Different Festival Observance
While they observed a "Feast of Unleavened Bread," its character differs from the biblical Passover.

Agricultural vs. Historical: The festival appears to be celebrated as an agricultural harvest ritual rather than a commemoration of the Exodus. The papyri do not link the eating of matzah to the haste of leaving Egypt or the story of the plagues.

Persian Influence: The instructions for this festival (the "Passover Letter") came from a Persian official (Hananiah) relaying a decree from King Darius II, rather than from biblical commandment, indicating the community relied on imperial or oral tradition rather than scripture for festival dates.
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>>539524046
I'm glad to know that out of my 3 bloodlines. My Thai is the most powerful as you refer to me as one.
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>>539523995
>>539524054
6. Non-Aaronic Priesthood
The priestly structure at Elephantine does not align with the Aaronic lineage required by the Torah.

Priestly Titles: While they had priests (kahen), there is no evidence linking them to the lineage of Aaron or the tribe of Levi as strictly defined in later biblical law. Their priesthood functioned independently of the Jerusalem hierarchy’s genealogical requirements.
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>>539521242
>jesus was a jew
We remind you because you forgot, retard. And being called cucks when you're acting like ones is proper
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>>539523992
Hegemony isn't universalist, you dimwit, and neither christcuckery, islam or liberal democracy are hegemonic. They are all built on the premise that all are the same and equal. Empire is built on the beliefs of ethnic particularity, and reality's lack of equality. No empire that does not elevate its founders exist, and the ones that became too universalist all fell as the core holding them up was hollowed out.
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>>539524086
DIOS MIO

EL ABOMINACION
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>>539524129
I'm Thai/Chinese/American. Yet. You only see me as Thai. Do you see how that work?
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>>539520747
Christianity is the OG globohomo, you retard
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>>539523667
>Your alternatives are full of contradictions.
There is nothing dumber than your christcuck lore. It is the very epitome of pure stupidity.


>----------
God created paradise, an evil snake, and an apple you cannot eat under any circumstances. He ordered humans not to eat the apple He placed with the snake, whose only purpose was to tempt them. As all-knowing, He knew they would fail—free will is no excuse, since He created people guaranteed to eat it. He then condemned all creation, made a fallen world, and invented hell for eternal torture if they didn’t worship Him or follow His rules (including circumcision for a while). Finally, He flooded the world, but one family survived with ALL animals on a big ship that somehow fit every species...
>----------

And it goes on and on, one incredibly stupid story after another.
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>>539521116
Jesus was an apocalyptic jew preaching to rabbinic jews about the bad temple jews
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>>539523992
>>539524111
>There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
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>>539523667
Look at the number of deaths Christianity is responsible for throughout its history. And not just of non-Europeans; there were more crusades called against Europeans than Muslims for example. Look at all the killings of "heretical" movements within Christianity, not just what was done to heathens. Look at the wars following the reformation. Christians have had centuries to prove they are a uniting, practical force for the European; it is a testament to failure.

Try harder, or accept that it doesn't work and we need something else.
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>>539522445
Okay but OP pagan, ranjeet
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>>539524348
Thai people are known to have no smelling. Seethe about it.
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>>539524381
But you're a China Gook too, so you probably smell like onions beans and mothballs
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>>539524438
>smell like onions beans
*onions beans
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>>539524459
*onions beans
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>>539524438
>>539524459
>>539524491
Kek, if you type s o y it changes to onions when posted
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Onions beans stink
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>>539524438
I kinda like my own body odor. Can you say the same? My sister also doesn't smell bad
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>>539524530
>I kinda like my own body odor
You like smelling like mothballs and onions?
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>>539524111
>the universal empire isnt universal
...
Great point.
White identity itself is already universal.
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>>539524522
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your stay
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>>539524623
Been here over a decade and never seen it till now
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>>539522282
Are you calling your god a mutilated cattle?
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>>539524208
So when Europeans do good thing it's because they were White and not because they were Christian but when Europeans do bad thing all of a sudden it's because of Christianity.
What an embarassing nonsensical worldview.
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>>539519882
Fpbp
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>>539521885
And after moses, YHWH allowed jews to have goyim slaves. What a great morality
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>>539524658
Impressive. Søy was huge as an insult back in 2016-2017
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i was reading this and other threads, and i notice many but 1 or 2 keep repeating false texts created by the multiracial members of the Synagogue of Satan. Someone makes a reasoned point and—BAM—shitty spam.
Just think... do you believe the universe is built by being passive in the face of evil? Do you think a garden stays fertile and produces food if you remain passive about pests and weeds? How could God—through any true prophet—ever say, "Be passive in the face of evil"? Life is God's gift; how could God fail to say, "Protect your life," and instead say, "Heaven comes later, so for now, let evil run its course on earth"? Paradise *is* life; life is God's gift. Hell and paradise are here and now—they won't come later, after everything goes dark. All I see around me is filth and lies, and retards and pos; this needs fire—fire enough to burn away every trace of evil—so that love and truth may reign among the children of God, and God Himself may reign.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J03Ie5tEcsA
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>>539523473
>>539523726
>>539523995
>>539524108

Fun fact, I've never had a Christian engage these topics. I chalk it up to cognitive dissonance and lack of reading skills for anything not related to the bible
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>>539524748
This is why argumentation with you jews is impossible; you are always disingenuous and twist our word.
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>>539524831
Indeed. I just never used it till now. >>539524901
Exactly
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>>539524911
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>>539524901
Thanks for posting that up. There were a few details that were actually new for me there what with the Babylonaica. I knew it was a 3rd century BCE product out of Alexandria but that really makes it concrete.
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>>539523002
Yeah and why is the sneakos comment cropped?
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>>539524968
That always comes to mind every time I make one of these threads lmfao

At this point I'm honestly starting to think they're worse than jews.
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>>539523526
Because X cannot be claim and proof at the same time, shitjeet
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>>539523184
>500 eyewitnesses
Can I have their testimonies? Or at least names?
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>>539525008
The Führer is infallible
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>>539524971
Gmirkin's work + Elephantine Papyri is a one-two knockout for Abrahamism. I actually took the time to have that archive.org text printed at FedEx so I could have a hard copy (the actual book is listed at over $200). I read it, and it is dense but a very enlightening read.
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>>539523037
Projecting hard lol
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Can we get 400 replies before page 10?
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>>539525083
Ex nihilo omnia fiunt
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>>539523600
Christianity is a Jewish sect. Specifically apocalyptic messianic Judaism from Essene
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>>539523701
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>>539520835
This is more prescriptive than Christianity's 10 commandments to me. but then again, maybe I don't understand all of Christianity that well. I don't know the Bible so I couldn't say I know it all.
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>>539525069
If you haven't yet I recommend looking into Ammon Hillman's work on the topic as well. He's of the opinion the Septuagint was written first and that it's not a translation, but rather the Hebrew bible was translated from the Septuagint. Seeing as Hebrew was not a true complete language at that time but one limited to religious usage, there isn't a full vocabulary bank for ancient Hebrew from the bible. Like we're talking less than 10,000 words. So the Greek version is far more complex and nuanced, with it extremely dumbed down into Hebrew. A translation will lose nuance... See what he's saying there?

There's also the argument that there's really no such thing as Hebrew but rather an earlier Semitic language that was shared by both the Hebrews and Phoenicians, but that's a whole other story.
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>>539525141
Niggerbabble
Christians aren't jews and posting retarded memes won't change that.
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>>539524748
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>>539525141
Not Essene my friend. It's what Josephus called the Fourth Sect/Fourth Philosophy. The real historical Jesus was a man named Judas the Galilean. Prepare for the truly forbidden redpill:
https://judasthegalilean.weebly.com/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ2MsTwR6d4
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>>539525266
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>>539525251
>Christians aren't jews
WTF I thought you were the real Jews!
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>>539525251
Christians aren't jews just like wolves aren't foxes but they still are canids
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>>539525330
>>539525338
More niggerbabble
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>>539521962
>What of those who are weak of mind, or weak of spirit? Surely you don't mean only the physically weak.
Downtroddent, fuck you with going into semantics "hurr durrr which weak", I can clearly see you are not arguing in a good faith like a typical jew.
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>>539525384
One day, I'd like to see a Christian that isn't a liar.
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>>539525420
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>>539525330
Synagogue of Satan
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Larpy now Posting Athena without knowing the deepest lore. Spoiler, Real niggas don't call her Auntie A for nothing. She would 100% not approve, or co-sign your Cult of Antichristian cope. And would also 100% reject you because you are of no worth, value, a npc, and will never be a real woman. Get Filtered
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>>539525545
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>>539525545
Athena has nothing to do with Mother Mary, you vagueposting dolt.
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>>539525251
christkikes can't meme
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>>539525772
Goy
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>>539525251
>christians aren't jews
That's right. You are spiritually jewish, but still goyim worshipping a goy-appropriate moschiach
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>>539525826
Amalek is rising
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>>539524604
You have to be misunderstanding on purpose. The definition of empire is an imperial heartland that is hegemon over inferior imperial provinces. Kill yourself.
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>>539525545
You can steal the lady's finery, and drape your yenta in it; but at the end of the day, all you have is jewess in ill fitting European clothes.
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400 replies lets go
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>>539525848
Niggerbabble
>>539525922
*Pisses on you*
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>>539526029
Your retorts are weak and speak to your retarded mind.
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>>539526050
Niggerbabble
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>>539523701
Europe decayed under christianity, europe barely able to claw back a semblance of civilization after the collapse of the old world. Europe persisted despite christianity, not because of it. Either way, yours is the universalism of yesteryear, now supplanted by an even more refined universalist cancer of western liberal democracy.
Non-abrahamic religions are built upon ethnic particularities, and could never give rise to such an ideology that believes in global homogenuity.
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>>539526119
Okay retard, calm down
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>>539523995
The Nietzsche, Hitler and Jung's spiritual perspective of Odin/Wotan "Mass Wotanism" should be compiled into one of these pictures.
Few seem to pay attention to not just the fact that a painting was made of Wotan that looked like Hitler, but even Hitler himself revered Wotan
just like Nietzsche did and both of them wrote poems dedicated to Wotan.

Jung's "Mass Wotanism" is coming true, its just happening slowly because of all the paid christkike spammers from the US.
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>>539526030
Franz von Stuck is indeed absolute cinema
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>>539526146
Chillax brah
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>>539526139
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In conclusion, Christians failed to answer OP.
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>>539526301
Christians are dumb, more news at 11
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>>539525661
of course, And the Jew has reviled themselves.
Isis/Anat/Athena > & the Mary(S) are different from Inanna/Instar In that the Alexandrian Moms are still Virgin's, & Daughter or Sister to the rescue. While Ashtaroth/Ishtar/Venus was a Whore'(s). and Powerful in your face Slay Queen whore. This why the Mystery School's were a thing. And it's always the Babylonians (AKA the Hebrews) trying to sync their Gods with Everything So they can do shit like this bake. We Waz-Actually. Fuck you, And fuck you if you think I'll post shit that takes decades to figure out.
All that matters is no in fighting, Kick out the Jew & 3rdies. This shit can be debate bro'd for another 1000 years after they/you are gone.
This attempt to merge All the Mother Goddess is not a form of creating a One World religion correct? Perfect back up plan, Ish is not a tard, but her Ilk are. lol
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>>539526354
Good luck removing the jew when they are the cornerstone of the religion
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