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If a top 1% chad can’t even get a girlfriend, what does that mean for the bottom 90% of normies?
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>>539552066
Women don't give a fuck about muscles, only gay dudes do.
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>>539552066
OP is a faggot
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>>539552066
weird, it's as if women cared about more things than just looks or money

must be the jews
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>>539552168
Almost.
Women don't care about anything above "it looks like he works out."

That's it.
>does he look like he works out? Yes or no?
There is no added benefit once you reach the point of "it looks like he works out"
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>>539552168
They do but only when the muscles are obtained through hard work like chopping wood. Going to the gym is for fags and women.
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>>539552066
OP is a faggot
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>>539552168
LOOK AT WHAT WOMEN ARE MAKING YOUNG NEN DO. JUST TO BE LOOKED AT THEY HAVE TO GET 11 SURGERIES
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O9qRFwYIuV4
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>>539552066
Elon and Durov and the likes just get to father +100000 kids. It's evolution in action. In every culture throughout history only the 1% fathered kids and had huge harems while the 99% fought and died in their armies.
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>>539552066
anyone who has ever lifted in life knows the massive ego boost lifting gives you. this dude seems to be fixated on a girl HE is in love with who doesn't give a fuck about him. he makes it about lifting which is stupid. i spent like 3 years in the gym and i was fucking levitating above the ground talking to women like i was arnold. this only shows you can't lift the feels away unfortunately
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>>539552066
dad bod
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Girls prefer a dad bod. That guy is ridiculous
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>>539552066
That built guy that cant keep his shirt on anywhere he goes and usually just ends up going around without one

Usually dresses up as a baby only wearing a diaper at Halloween parties
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>>539552066
I know a chick who says guys don’t hit her up. Weird, because her best friend doesn’t look nearly as good as her, is boring as fuck, and has a tendency to lie and be dishonest and yet she will date numerous dudes by the week.
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>>539552691
i would have anal sex with this man

no homo
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>>539552168
Correct. Stop trying to reason with foids, just find another one
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>>539552066
>top 1% chad
If he optimizes himself (or anything actually) along an objective function that he didn't reality check once, he's not a chad.
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>>539552066
She probably can smell the fucking gay on him jfc
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Every time a girl is interviewed about men's physiques, they almost never choose the most muscular physiques. Need to leanmaxx while also having good functional strength
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>>539552168
Yeah they do
They just dont like obsessive freakish roidheads
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>>539552066
Goofy face. Face is 70% of aesthetics
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>>539552066
The genie is out of the bottle, best to look elsewhere than the gynocentric west
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>>539552168
Step 1: be tall
Step 2: have a big dick
That's literally it
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>>539552066
>5head
>pedo stare
>no fren
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>>539552168
Yet a lot more women like Henry Cavill and Chris Hemsworth when compared to twinks like Timothy
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>>539552066
If you got a shit personality that nobody wants to deal with you won't have luck no matter how good looking you are.
That he's posting this tells me he probably has a shit personality.
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>>539552691
Only if the guy is a chad. Fat beta nerds don't make the cut.
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>>539554405
Refer to Step 1: be tall, very simple rubric
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>>539552066
>top 1% chad
not with that face
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>>539552066
His mistake for not knocking the other guys teeth out.
Nobody likes a fag who lost a fight, would give her the ick.
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>>539552066
>top 1% chad
>roidtranny
No.
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>>539552066
he not a Chad. he's a beefcake. gay will love him, women not so much.
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>>539552066
The muscle princess
Against
>>539552691
The chad daddy
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>>539552066
Men haven't had to work out for thousands of years, why do they have to do that now? That's your first clue, right there. Men who did sword training for five hours a day or whatever, were just ripped and lean, if even that. Just in basic shape, at best. Just look at the bitches, they just have to be thin to be hot. Literally the bare minimum. Gymrats will never understand this simple fact.
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>>539552066
man i remember dating the hottest girl at seasonal resort and all the other guys would ask her why the fuck she was with me. they couldn't understand it because i wasn't chad, i wasn't muscly, i was an abrasive drunk that most people couldn't handle. she was infatuated with me though for some reason. best feeling in the world.
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>>539552168
F P B P
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>>539552066
Men only look like that for other men who are also body builders, most people think its disgusting
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>>539552066
>Hypergamy
>Foid in OP picked a relative normie
OP just nuked his own argument
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>>539552168
>Women don't give a fuck about muscles, only gay dudes do.
>T. Gay dude
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>>539556185
This.
Muscles like OP is to impress other dudes, not girls.
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>>539552066
>in love with

Do faggots really?
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>>539552066
>14 years of bodybuilding
What is his actual job, though. Taking pictures in front of other peoples BMWs?
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>>539552066
I can immediately tell he is under 6' tall
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>>539552302
This guy knows what he's talking about.
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>>539552168
>Only gay dudes care about muscles
Thats why I workout.
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>>539552396
That's what UGLY men are doing.
It doesn't work because women know his face is a lie, and deep down in the lizard-hindbrain, on a genetic level she is repulsed by him because she knows he's genetically repugnant.
Meanwhile a complete derelict with a decent face can get laid because genetically the woman who fucked the deadbeat knows her kids will at least be good looking. Nobody wants an ugly baby crawling out of them.

I'm mean I'm sorry but I'm not gonna blame women for not wanting to fuck a man whose head looks like an egg with acne.
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>>539552066
Good chance it’s because he’s an insufferable asshole
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>>539552168
damn guess i better hit the gym
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>>539556376
Good notice.
Yeah he works out. But what else does he do? The way he is flexing and putting himself in front of that BMW shows deep inner insecurities.

Im a natty gymbro and these roidtrannies are cringe and often have some of the most abrasive attitude problems.
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>>539552168
Wonen's preferred male bodies in no specific order
>Ottermode
>Hungry skeleton
>Dad bod
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>>539552066
I am 33 and have rougish boy next door charms
Women always think i am like 24
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>>539556875
The dad bod hysterics a couple of years ago was a psyop 100%
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>>539556896
>I am 33 and have rougish boy next door charms
>Women always think i am like 24
Huh
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>>539556896
>have rougish boy next door charms
You don't doing charming you sound like a faggot
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>>539552168
Holy based, fpbp and /thread
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>>539552066
The implications are FEMALE JANITORS will ban you for criticizing women in any form of fashion.
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>when women are single, they focus on their careers and friendships
>when men are single, they impotently bitch about it on a laotian pottery nessage board

why can't moids just learn to be happy without pussy?
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>>539557079
>It's da hecking wammenh-aackkkk
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>>539557286
Look how fast they respond. The Simp Feminist Task Force is ALWAYS on patrol and is obviously government funded.
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>>539556767
This

And assuming this isn't bait. A sample size of one is laughable. Sure his oneitis is with a guy who she's into. Pic related could put on a fitted v-neck, tapered jeans, and chelsea/desert boots and walk out with a drunk 23 year old in every bar in America.
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>>539556232
How do you know he was a normie? The guy had something else that made the women want him more. IMO women like losers and niggers like drug dealers because they prefer bad boys who don’t try to some loser that tries to impress her with muscles and money
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>>539552168
>Women don't give a fuck about muscles, only gay dudes do.

FPBP

Women just want you to have enough muscles to defend yourself, more than that is a clown act to them.
Or at least the vast majority of them.

>>539556487
He doesn't.
Girls want fit men for a reason.
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>>539556875
Dad bod is okay but you have to be able to maintain the boss daddy life style.
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>>539552066
That dude's not a Chad. Face matters, not muscles.
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>>539557752
>Face matters, not muscles.
So all women are lesbians is what you're trying to say.
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>>539552168
/thread, maybe don’t be a migger asshole and stop wearing a fucking trucker hat like your some Israeli operator thug.
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>>539557659
Really you just need confidence. Hungry skeletons better be able to spoil you but a dadbod just has to act like you're his property.
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>>539552168
>>539557819
>/thread
So all women are lesbians is what you're trying to say.
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>>539557592
>Women just want you to have enough muscles to defend yourself
Against whom?
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>>539557926
>Against whom?
Against a random nigger on the street. But not too much. You can't completely overpower them. You're like a guard dog. Somewhat strong and stupid.
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>>539558013
Against other alpha men.
Who are generally not on the top 10% strongest fags.
You don't have to be Achiles, you just have to be able to resist about 50% of other males. Perhaps 75% if you want the very top women.
And the worst of all is if you are just a gun nutt who doesn't seem like he might kill her of the blue or just get into stupid shit like gunfights or a war, you're already up there on the top for women, even without the muscle.

Case in point, my godfather came to visit me from the country side to the shitty suburbs of Lisbon infested with niggers.
He was about a 50 something years old white guy who wasn't particularly strong or muscle fit back then although he used to be something of a Chad when he was young and was in the air force.
He got off the train and just took out his illegal knife and was showing it around to everybody on the street while accompanied by his wife and two female children about 15-20 years old.
Nobody messed with him because why would they, he had fun, and his wife loved him more for it.

Women are fucking retarded.
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>>539557752
Attitude matters more, much more than face, which matters more, much more than muscles... generally at least. It depends on the attitude.
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>>539558404
>Against other alpha men
Wrong. If you're physically defending a woman then you're a beta cuck beta bucks. Alpha's would laugh at suck a thing.
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>>539552168
>Women don't give a fuck about muscles
Lol
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>>539558455
>Attitude matters more
>PERSONALITY MATTERS MORE
Post your tits or get the fuck out. You know the rules around here.
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>>539552168
Otter mode is what women want, not roid trannies with shrunken testicles
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>>539558562
>Otter mode
So they want a twink who weighs less than them and is willing to defend them in public like a dog.
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>>539552066
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>>539552066
Pro tip
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>>539558519
>my man is 6 ft tall and has a big cock
>oh yeah? my man is rich
>well my is instagramm famous
>witch from the toilet: Well my bf has an attitude!
women dont believe anything they tell themselves, saying inane shit is just style points for them
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>>539558641
I can tell you never had a gf, keep coping tranny faggot
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>>539558850
>women dont believe anything they tell YOU
Fixed that for you. Women are honesting themselves and the "sisterhood", they're just not honest with you.
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>>539558482
Perhaps.
But in my view, I'm fighting to impose some respect around me.
You can't start shitting on a girl in front of me as if I am not there. In some cases even if it is your girl.
You can convince yourself of what you want but once shit is off you're getting what's yours anyway, buddy.
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>>539558855
I'm sorry but I'm not going to ask you about on a date. You have equality now. Get a job and pay your own bills, cunt.
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>>539558971
>Perhaps.
>But in my view
Be quiet, woman.
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>>539558482
Also, it's not Alpha vs beta.
Read the Vox Poppuli article on it.

>>539558519
Fuck you you pathetic nigger virgin with no real life experience.
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>>539559001
I am not a woman, as it is clear to all, you faggy fairy.
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Chad would never make such a pathetic post. That's what makes him Chad.
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>>539558930
so honest they tell the fattest landwhale conceivable that she is beautiful but once compared to the whale they get offended
women are a joke to themselves and other women
you know why you are on avarage shorter than men? Its because you are closer to the devil that way
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>>539559021
>YOU ARE LE VIRGIN
>YOU ARE LE INCEL
Listen Suzanne, I'm not going to ask you about on a date. You have equality now. Get a job and pay your own bills, cunt.
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>>539552066
Thinning hairline.
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>>539552168
Fpbp
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>>539559063
>I am not a woman!
>And you have a small pee pee!
>And no woman would ever want you!
I'm sorry Suzanne, but I'm not going to ask you about on a date. You have equality now. Get a job and pay your own bills, cunt.
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>>539559138
Post sagging tits with a timestamp
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>>539559078
>>539559178

Try harder, nigger.
You're convincing no one.
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>>539559333
>appealing to social consensus
Post your saggy tits with a timestamp.
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>>539552066
>What are the political implications of runaway hypergamy?
Nothing you said and showed has ANYTHING to do with hypergamy you MASSIVE FAGGOT..not even related. Not if you do mental gyms.

kys as soon as possible.
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>>539559400
Lmao this roastie is MAD
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>>539552168
fpbp girls just want a dude in shape not a lunk head.
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All bodybuilders are mentally ill.
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>>539559436
So you just have a thing for calling random dudes "woman" on the interwebs?

Weird or pajeet?
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>>539559491
>in shape
>>539558562
>Otter mode
>>539558641
>So they want a twink who weighs less than them and is willing to defend them in public like a dog.
Look at you cunts trying to consensus crack. You're working real hard, aren't ya.
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>>539552691
This guy looks like he chops wood.
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>>539559514
What are your top songs? Post three of them.
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>>539552066
put on the skirt faggot.
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>>539559599
With his ass.
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>>539559683
Good joke! That was really funny.
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>>539552168
This
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>>539552168
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>>539552168
women aren't really into men all that much, in general.
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>>539552066
>2026
>still juicing
>not taking the twink pill

Sorry gymchud but hot women prefer skinny twinks over muscle bound freaks. Yes women are fucking stupid but that's what it is.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMoB30KFXmY
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>>539556935
It really isnt. I have a dadbod and ive gotten rimjobs from some real cuties. just be urself
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Women just want someone we can actually have a long term relationship with. Have you thought about working on your personality, goals, morals, world view, humor or really anything that matters when it comes to a long term relationship?

What do you bring to the table? What’s your personality like? Are you kind? Do you call women “females?” Are you intimidated by women who have their own education, career and money? Are you controlling? Are you a good listener? Are you more negative than positive? Do you have a temper?

Honestly, any man who is complaining about women issues is probably absolutely awful. Women will date ANYTHING. Trust me.
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>>539552066
>bmw
>roider
>"why don't girls love me?"
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the only parts of my personality that women would actually LIKE, are classified.
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>>539559741
Look at all the consensus cracking fagots upvoting
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>>539559913
>Women just want someone we can actually have a long term relationship with
Chad fucks beta bucks.
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>>539559913
Shitty bait. But post those flapjacks just in case
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>>539552066
Derp face. Beta grin. Balding.
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>>539559913
good vibes and my divine male energy
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>>539556935
>The dad bod hysterics a couple of years ago was a psyop 100%
>>539559866
>It really isnt
It obviously was. Dad bod's are beta bucks. You whore yourself to an older man to finance your lifestyle
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Women value status above all else with a few exceptions. Ironically bodybuilding is one of the most pussy repellant things you can do if you over do it. Women hate muscles fucks, like many other anons stated women want guys who look like they work out but don't go too hard. Try taking up music if you want easy pussy. Whip out a guitar and play fucking wonderwall and you'll have to peel cunts off of you with a fucking crowbar.
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>>539560052
>Balding
Post saggy tits with timestamp
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>>539559846
this is the truth. I think that the amount of hormones in our food / water have totally annihilated the already lesser female sex drive
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>>539560147
>Women value status above all else with a few exceptions
Women want your money and that's it. They don't value men at all. Men are just dogs to them. You're just a farm animal.
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>>539552066
Bro thinks being a massive douchebag makes him to 1%. Top kek.
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>>539560262
> If you work hard and realize women are scamming you then you're a douchebag!
When you post your tits, don't forget the timestamp
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>>539552168
Not entirely correct.
Women care about muscles, but it matters less than other things.
Status matters the most, then it's height and face, then it's wealth. Body and personality are multipliers.
I look at the guy in the OP and he doesn't look famous or rich and his face is average. He has good muscles but even if you double your score if you start at a 2 you're still only getting a 4.
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face > status > funny > height > confidence > dick > butt > muscle

in that order
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>>539552066
Women literally never cared about physique
Only faggots do

Height is god
Then looks
Then money
Then dick size
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>>539559603
Kek I don't have top songs.
I like Numb from Linkin Park and that from Arctic Monkeys... Do you wanna know? Crawling back to me...

And yours?
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>>539552691
Wrong, they prefer a man who wont rock the boot with regimen and dieting
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>>539559913
Great bait with the fat hog feet.
Massive keks were had!
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>>539560439
>Only faggots do
Such an organic post. Totally not automated with bots.
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>>539560474
>Massive keks were had!
Then you have the gall to say other or non's are. You're the biggest fagot in this thread, because women are fagots with vaginas
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>>539559859
No they dont. Women would constantly try to talk to me when i was fit and could run countless miles. I realized they were annoying me because I didnt look like everybody else. So I stopped exercising but unfortunately fat cunts still bother me at the bar.
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>>539552271

Yeah, you'd almost believe as if women care about things like compatibility and maturity or something over just a peacockish display of sexual attributes or something.

My Tinderbrain cannot understand, must swipe right...
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>>539560147
I hate the fact that all you have to do is play music to get women. It makes me violently angry that the world is this way. Total narcissistic musician death and total woman death.
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>>539560209
Girls value men.
But only if the man have status.
You should be trying to learn instead of calling people women and regrugitating your gay bullshit, anon.

That anon is right, you are wrong.
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>>539552066
skill issue.

i'm a fat 32 year old NEET slob and fuck 18-21 year olds regularly, i dont even set my age preferences higher than that. no need.
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>>539560505
Try make sense next time, anon.
Fat hog feet poster was funny.
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>>539558404
Everyone's retarded in portugal
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>>539560591
oh and by the way, i live with my dad and this is my room
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>>539552691
This guy is just fat and thats it
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>>539559846
Women seem to only be attracted to white guys for looks or shitskins for low inhibition
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>>539552066
Apparently that they can steal a girlfriend from the top 1% chad
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>>539553790
Big dick will only get you so far. Women are never satisfied and if you arent the full package all around successful man they will tire of you in some way.
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>>539560147
>picrel
is a perfect male physique. Overall though it doesn't really matter. Womens attraction is a very strange thing to try and capture. They're just not really all that into men without a whole shit ton of other qualifiers that she can leverage for status over other women
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>>539560559
It's not even the music, it's the mastery of a somewhat difficult (not really) somewhat socially acceptable / value skill PLUS the delivery.
I bet it works wonders at 15-18 year old girls though.

When I was in school I had a few legit piano players as collegues and despite being at a high level they were considered awkard losers by all the girls.
In college a bunch of retards had their own retarded band and 80% of girls shat on them anyway.

The guy who had success with music to bed girls was the near chad guy who everybody sort of liked and who tried to play music to girls he liked while at parties in a oh I'm so deep, listen to this way.
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>>539560688
He doesn't really look like chad desu
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>>539552168
It's that women don't want a guy who "lives at the gym" and doesn't give them attention. This is good, in theory, as a vain man who neglects his duties to his partner is a man who should be scorned. In practice however, most of these women are significantly more vain than the gym bros because they will never make their standards and desires clear and let their partners flap in the wind trying to figure them out because it makes them think they're special.
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>>539560762
A perfect male physic is not that.
It's le UFC functional in a normal-ish body that is the perfect male physic.

As in muscle looking at average height but with average weight or slightly above it.
(no fat, obviously)
(although a little fat is far from being a deal breaker)
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>>539560439

Looks (including height) is a business card, you can have a good presentation, but you must actually bring something to the table. Dick size is a bonus, I have a big dick but I joked (shit tested, honestly) some women by claiming that I had a tiny dick the size of a pinky finger and the women didn't care, they were slightly disappointed at worst. When my actual size was revealed they were pleasantly surprised, if I don't bring up my dick size women just compliment it or say that it's nice to be with a man who has "a third leg", but I don't think that women actually care about it unless they are size queens and I've dated a few size queens and they were literally the only women that couldn't shut up about my dick. Honestly, I married a size queen simply because it stops being "a nice bonus" and actually becomes a point of fetish for them, so you can have a good sex life, but I can assure you that 90% of women (at least) don't give a shit about the size of your dick.

Money is context dependent, some women care about money but I think that most women don't care about money at all. I know multi-millionaire incels and homeless "studs".

The best thing you can be to a woman is be a man that fulfills her specific niche, so if she's into Goth guys be a Goth, if she's into fit guys be fit, if she's into rich guys be rich.

Adventurous women don't like boring men and boring women don't like adventurous men. Both are generally speaking but exceptions exist.
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>>539560591
>>539560654
Teach me, oh great one
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>>539560832
You're supposed to figure them out, you complete fag.
Is most of the game.
You just have to show you get them without complications and that you also know how to deal with them and put them in their place.

Sometimes I wonder if most of you did not have fathers in the home...
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>>539560870
UFC you say?
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>>539560870
UFC fighters dont even look like they do serious lifting half the time. They still look very fit but they don't obsess over every ounce and make themselves balloon up like freaks. Women dont like anything tryhard.
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>/thread, maybe don’t be a migger asshole and stop wearing a fucking trucker hat like your some Israeli operator thug
But enough about your fantasy jerk off material. Let's get back to reality.
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>>539553790
Being exotic helps.
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>>539560998
idk paulo costa has a freaky physique. Two men could do the same workout routine and end up with very different bodies because genetics is the most important factor, even including roid use >>539560991
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>>539557013
calm down sukdeep
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>>539553790
bald cancels out tall.
some girls still like you, like 80% lose interest when bald. but 20% like it or its just not in their equation for men if hair or not.

rich always beats every other factor forever.
you can just BUY women. and I don't mean rent.
you don't have to be rich to rent women.
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if you need to put any effort you weren't a chad in the first place. I have been friends with chads and they can get pussy multiple times per week while living in their mom's basement completely broke and depressed without taking care of themselves. People have done "chadfish" accounts in dating apps and they would tell women they are sexual predators who raped children and women don't give a single fuck. Hypergamy is very real, unless you are in the top 20% there's no point of putting any effort, you will end up fucking fatties and married some 30+ single mother when you get older.
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>>539560935
Why would you post a 6/10 simply because she's better looking than most chinksects?

Women don't like big dicks.
Well they sort of do, they like they can handle it and they like how it feels / looks.
But truly women don't like big dicks.
They see a big dick as a potential for a good time, sure.
But most often they complaint and ask you to not go all in or to not go as fast.
Unironically: I believe in actual practice girls prefer normal dicks most of the time.
But yeah it's true they like to get properly fucked by a big dick. It's just that they don't like it that often or all the time.

By the way in any case: If the girl is reaching for your dick you already won, weather it's big or small. I am yet to hear about a woman in heat who refused a guy for his dick being too small.

Plus as a big dicked guy the real most honest dick related compliment I hear is : "It's so hard".
And they also love it when you can move your dick, although they tend to be coy or start to laugh about it. They love it.

One day a hot girl once told me regarding money:

>Look, money helps, but no girl will chose a man because of money and no girl will reject a man because of money. You just have to have enough money for what is expected of your class. Other than that the more you have the better but it won't make or break you.

I tend to believe it's true.
Basically girls don't care how much money you have as long as you have "enough".

Sure, girls are swooped by rich guys all the time and it's a major factor *but* it's not because of the money alone, it's never just because of the money. In the same way every girl can fall for a guy who is poor or with no money, she just won't marry him most likely.

I heavily disagree with your niche thing.
Every woman wants the same, pretty much.
The difference is more with the age of a woman than her "favoured niche".
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>>539561452
>bald cancels out tall.
poor ray
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>>539554405
Not from what I've seen
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>>539560991
I didn't mean that body. That is too strong.
>>539560998
And that is too weak.

I meant the average guy weight, the average guy... but with their UFC bodies. I don't know the class weight above that famous Irish fighter.
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>>539560359
Dude has baby face and is posing next to a BMW in boxers flexing outside, there is no way he isn’t a piece of shit human being. He’s also hyper-focused on one girl as if lifting means he should get whoever he wants.

You can just pick up any hobby that has women doing it and talk to them and you’ll get more good options than being a megadouche.

Also the women attracted to a man because of his car, money, or muscles will leave him the second he doesn’t have those things. You can only pull low quality but maybe attractive women to hook up with like this and they will overwhelmingly be gold diggers. It will never find a quality partner. The thing about that is whores are actually cheap, so it’s less effort than the gym and less money than the car to just pay them. Being megadouche just gets you free whores basically. Which is cool but he was trying to pull a specific woman he liked and this probably drove her further away.
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>>539561144
A lot of them have goofy looking physique if you compare them to clowns like guy in OP who spend every waking minute minmaxxing their weight lifting exclusively.

Women absolutely value muscle but these guys dont have bodies that scream tryhard. A body you can achieve with 1 hour of lifting 5x a week in your 20s is what they like, not those dweebs who spend every millisecond talking about their diet and shoveling the same gross shit down their throat for every meal in huge quantities
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>>539561580
who the fuck is this i thought it was some comedian doing a bit but its a real guy?
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>>539561704
kek thats the internets biggest incel lolcow: raymond thoughts and mind
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT9WAMKfsco
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>>539552168
Women only care about muscles when the rest of the qualities are already there.

People seem to forget that having good muscles just complements the overall attractiveness. If you are 2/10 your good muscles will make you 3/10 that's it
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>>539552066
bwahahahaha imagine doing all of that for pussy only to realize pussy doesn't like retards like these and prefer twinks that gets high/drunk with her on the weekend
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>>539561945
To whom though? Every hobby has a community attached to it. Outside that community your achievements are underappreciated if they are acknowledged at all.
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>>539553790
I've got a better one
Step 1: have money
That's literally it. you can be a penguin from batman and get top tier pussy as long as you got $$$
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>>539561945
Guy in OP immediately insulted the other guy and alleged he couldn't bench 135 which probably isnt even true. Even a 5'4 guy who never works out can do that at least once. Guy probably never put any work in to win that girl over and thought 1000 hours of gym time would let him win when the other dude is probably normal and put the time in to win her over so hes salty about it. You can tell hes a bitch just from his attitude.
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>>539561531

> Unironically: I believe in actual practice girls prefer normal dicks most of the time.

Yes, that's actually true.

https://incels.wiki/w/Penis

> So it appears that the evidence on female prefence for certain penile lengths corraborate; with the most aesthetically pleasing and sexually pleasing penises found to be at the 13cm-14cm mark.

This is also why I married a "size queen" who easily gets wet and doesn't scream in pain from simple penetration or fast penetration. Sex with my ex-wife was always painful for her and rarely pleasurable, she SAID she preferred bigger dicks, but I think that she was culturally conditioned into believing that bigger was better (porn addicted).

Also, beauty is subjective.

Relationships are ultimately about compatibility, even the hottest women can become unattractive to you if they have really bad personalities.
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>>539560654
>2 piss jugs
>1 filled to the brim
I kneel
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>>539561531

> By the way in any case: If the girl is reaching for your dick you already won, weather it's big or small. I am yet to hear about a woman in heat who refused a guy for his dick being too small.

Also very much true, I have an alcoholic friend and he admitted to me that he has a really small penis, whenever his wife is drunk she can't stop sexually desiring him and dry humping him. I've literally never seen any other woman desire a man as much as she desires him.
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>>539560591
>444
shes a redbar fan too, nice
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>>539562106
what's really crazy is that Mila (her mom) is filming these videos of her daughter to be posted on social media
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>>539552066
natty?
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>>539552066
What a clown, plus that's not 14 years, that's like 6 months of blasting
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>>539562156
Dry humping pretty much feels like the way he fucks her I guess
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>>539562080
It's this one, and the older the woman you want, the more money (aka; security) you need to have.
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>>539561452
also just to be clear MUSCLE may not get women hot and horny, but the effect it has on other men, they LOVE that.
they LOVE that.
they LOVE it when other men show you fear or respect or micro-submissions.
I don't give a shit about purity of motivations for lifting or that hierarchy of reasons to lift or the gay stuff. but to all those people saying that big muscle guys aren't attractive- when the girl you are with- she shes other women look at you, and then at the guy they are with... that is all it ever took in human history to get laid.
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>>539552271
>>539560527
If women don’t care for sex so much why is it impossible for them to remain virgins?
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>>539561531

> I heavily disagree with your niche thing.
Every woman wants the same, pretty much. The difference is more with the age of a woman than her "favoured niche".

There are some universally desirable traits like having a decent income, being tall (or at least taller than average), and being lean.

But you can be the shortest baldest dude with a huge belly and still make a woman fall madly in love with her if you say the right words at the right time and like the right things. If a woman is really into bungeejumping and you're fearless and loves extreme sports then she will likely find you more attractive than a random hot guy who isn't into any of that.

Most women will find the man from picrel unattractive, but a highly specific type of woman will be very attracted to him. I remember while volunteering at an animal shelter that one man was complaining how his short ugly friend kept dating "super models" when he was a cashier at a vegan store. One woman explained to him that vegan men are rare and women who really care about vegan things tend to go for the few men who are also vegan, so because he was a member of a mostly female subculture he managed to bag super hot women.

Being vegan, he was mentally ill and later trooned out after dumping his girlfriend who then "became lesbian" because "all men are pigs" (these people are all insane), but he did score top pussy simply by refusing to drink milk and eat eggs.
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>>539552066
kek bodybuilders are retarded
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>>539553284
>overly rounded shoulders
>being over 40 with a physique like that, naturally
Sorry to break it to you bud. Danny boy is a roidhead as well.
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>>539562548
He was 36 in Casino Royale iirc but yeah he is an actor but women would prefer that 100% to OP
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>>539562056
Well having good muscles is a universally praised trait, the same as having a good voice or being good with instruments. Doesn't matter what trait it is, when someone gauges all his value around that one trait then it won't work well. Look at clavicular for example. He got absolutely embarrassed to death in Europe
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>>539562098
That dude is the definition of a loser. When something doesn't go the way he expected, instead of looking for the reason why it didn't, he just started insulting others as if the problem is not from him
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>>539552066
Eat Clen
Tren Hard
Annavar give up
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why does high school not teach you how interest rates work?
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>>539552168
It is because women are incredibly narcissistic. They don't want their bf to mog them in attractiveness. Unless of course he is a Chad. But to be a Chad he needs to be 6ft+ with a more slender muscular build. Not a bodybuilders build. But if a woman cannot secure a Chad which few ever will for marriage then they want their man to be uglier than they are. That way they can have control over the man and feel better about themselves lol.
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>>539552066
looking like this instead of a little muscle maybe is the difference between pointing a loaded gun at someone or leaving it unloaded on the table

women have seen those videos of roid-ragers, one punch and their face is completely destroyed, two and they’re dead, not worth the risk
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>>539552168
After almost a decade of bodybuilding I’m afraid to admit that this is a true statement. One minute you’re a hobbyist making milestones with each set and eating super clean, absolutely locking in on a super strict diet….and then. Well, basically you start mingling with the gym bros at the gym, after the gym and eventually at a more intimate place. I had my ass blown for the first time when I was only 28 and the man that did it was a semi pro who was at the time 49. He must’ve roughed up in such an intense way a day later I couldn’t get out of bed because my back totally gave out. When I see these young dudes at the gym asking me for advice I just can’t help but coach em just long enough so that I can earn their trust.
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>>539552066
The guy in OP is really strong but this only attracts a certain type of woman which is probably not the one that he was going for.

This would be like me going for a Chinese girl in my gym that only fucks/dates tall pajeets and objectively gross looking shit skin males with a delusional ego that couldn't hold a flame to a candle if they were to fight me under any context even if I was drunk.

He should be going for a woman that is interested in having a man with big muscles, rather than assuming that all women would be interested in his physique.

I'm sure he can find a woman that is interested in him.
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>>539552066
The guy she choose over him has a better hairline and is taller.
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>>539552691
He took the bulk too far
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>>539562933
>no no, they actually are attracted to it, but they don't want him to be too attractive
>unless he is attractive, then he is allowed to be attractive
bro you need to get the fuck off the internet asap you are actually losing your mind
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>>539561679
>Dude has baby face and is posing next to a BMW in boxers flexing outside, there is no way he isn’t a piece of shit human being. He’s also hyper-focused on one girl as if lifting means he should get whoever he wants.
This is why gym-goes often fail with women. They are narcissistic and not outcome independent. There will always be some woman who isnt going to be susceptible to you and the right move is to simply move on as quickly as possible. Mating is largely a mind game and gym cannot fix a broken brain.
I am 46 and dating a woman half my age simply by approaching a lot of women and not caring about the result. That guy could never do this because he would probably sperg out and beat up a woman rejecting him or overdose on drugs after a dozen rejections
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xe6nLVXEC0
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>>539563241
There is no contradictions here. The man needs to look like the stereotypical Chad. Women cannot help themselves with this. They will always be dtf with a Chad. But the whiny muscleboy simp in the OP is not a Chad. Especially not with him bitching about some scrawny poor man that is much weaker than him. That is not Chad behavior at all. The girl is likely with that guy because she can manipulate him but that does not mean she is attracted to him at all. The bodybuilder simply does not understand how the female mind works and evidently neither do you.
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>>539563408
>more mental gymnastics
you are the male equivalent of a feminist
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>>539562374
This. A man can be throwing money around but if a dude much larger than him stands near him, the bigger dude is getting the attention.
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>>539563241
other dude is correct, jeet. you wouldn't understand. women want their man to be uglier than them but more scary to other men so she has pretty control in the relationship and her men acts more of an accessory. if he is too hot then other women will openly hit on him in front of her and that scares women
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>>539563726
Only women in their 30s care about these mind games. It is easier to date younger women provided you can deal with the social pushback and resentment.
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>>539552066
Becoming a roidtranny doesn't make you a chad, it might initially fool a foid into interest but sooner or later the tranny's true colors are revealed. This is also why self-improvement doesn't work.
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>>539563257
>That guy could never do this because he would probably sperg out and beat up a woman rejecting him or overdose on drugs after a dozen rejections
I'm certain he can do it, but chooses not to because he believes women should approach him even if they are interested in him.

Eventually after months, a woman will give up and move on because the attraction typically dies.

I've had this happen many times to me and I'm a gym fag. My typical excuse normally ranges between
>many women want me
or
>I'm so busy in my life that I can't make room for a woman

And normally that ends up being a disaster because the intentions are never clear. However, I don't regret it either in many cases because a lot of the women end up being bad choices when I take 15 minutes to learn a little more about them.
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>>539552168
Atleast he can fuck any guy he wants
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>>539563042
Yeah we always knew body builders were closeted fags. Why else do they look at men all day
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>>539552066
Is this what you believe the world is?
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>>539563847
this, you either a chad from childhood or you're not. no amount of dress up, looksmax, pua training is gonna make you a chad. you might be able to fool women like you said for a week or two but she'll likely figure you out before she opens her legs
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>>539563853
>I'm certain he can do it, but chooses not to because he believes women should approach him even if they are interested in him.
This will legitimately never happen unless you deal with desperate or golddigger women. I am divorced and post-divorce this happened to me with some single moms but I ignored them. Women only approach men if they hope to get something out of a man and its never the better more romantic a bit delusional women you would want. They are feminine and thus dont have the agenda in their head that women who approach have. There has never been a man in mankinds history who ended up with increased life quality after getting with a girl who approached him.
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>>539563853
>redit spacing, womensplainin
ooh shit, you are a a jeet tranny.
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>>539562399
OOOOHHH OHHHH SHHHHHHHHH DON'T SAY ANYTHING!!!!!
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>>539563953
Extroversion and having a lot of time beat good genetics by a landslide. You just cannot be ugly without compensation for it so women can suspend the disbelief of feeling you're a solid choice
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>>539563726
>women only want chad!
>but also, they want their man to be ugly!
nigger just shut up, you faggots get more and more ridiculous
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>>539552168
It's literally all about having a chad face, not even height is a big deal
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>>539564028
being a chad doesn't mean looks. it's all personality. reason those ugly fatso get all the bitches is because they grew up around women and know how these cunts operate and thus trigger all their buttons the right way. being pretty helps if you got foid mentality skill
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>>539563080
this desu

some women will focus solely on a man that looks like their father, or looks like someone their father would hate - to the exclusion of all reason

if you were a drug-addicted fatty chaser in the 90’s your friends would have kicked your ass, women don’t get corrected by other women like that
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>>539564094
lol, jeet identified himself. what exactly do you think "Chad" means, jeet? I bet you think it's the chieseled jaw and a hairline because you've seen that black/white meme on the interwebs
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>>539563964
>Women only approach men if they hope to get something out of a man
This is typically true but I can say the same about a lot of men whenever they approach women in the gym.

For example, if I see diamond face jeet in the gym with his pubic goatee talking to a Chinese woman, obviously the jeet is doing so thinking he can get laid sticking to her like glue and ignoring working out at all. She obviously enjoys talking and thinks she's impressive with a dysgenic shit skin whenever she glances at me while I look at her in pure disgust.

>There has never been a man in mankinds history who ended up with increased life quality after getting with a girl who approached him.
My quality of life improved with a woman that approached me non-romantically. She actually offered me some business opportunities. However, there is always a reason to be cautious whenever anyone approaches you.

Yet, normally women will almost never approach a man if they're romantically interested in said man. Intentions need to be clear.
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>>539552168
this. i have never met a woman who obsesses over a dude's fitness. as long as you are not a fat slob and not insane and have a decent job you can get pussy.
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>>539563992
>Reddit spacing
Write any document in a professional setting instead of picking coconuts then return, pretend Spaniard.
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It is also why its easier to cheat a wife than getting a gf. You are in way coming pre-approved. Looks matter much less when women already considered you good enough. The thing why men thing looks are it now is that due to women making their own money most men feel useless now so they find copes. In reality many women are simply ruined due to overstimulation from modernity, social media and such as well as feminism making them delusional. No matter how you look, how rich you are, you are not going to get lucky with the majority of women anymore. This is why Haaland and this Lamile guy both got humiliated by their rather mid gfs during the world cup. Their women largely chose them and women who choose men are predatory feminists that lowkey are all misandrists. You must find the minority of women who are still romantic and agreeable but they will not approach you. This is why these high status men always lose but some dealer with lots of time on his hands gets a ride or die gf much younger than he is while they get women who only take advantage of them.

>>539564157
If you're too ugly or have something compensating for it most women will not be willing to discovert you character. Mostly you're right though, looks or wealth alone dont make a man
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEt5dEOcW0I
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>>539564278
I meant sexually, not business-wise.

>>539564312
Time filtering by approaching in person > hoping to be approached after levelling up, using established funnels that already give high certainty of your intentions
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>>539561531
>One day a hot girl once told me regarding money:
nothing a gyal says regarding their taste or preference is trustworthy
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>>539564681
It is either attention-seeking, conformity or virtue signaling depending on the woman and the situation. Completely useless
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>>539552168
This. Look at the fags seething.
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>>539564557
>I meant sexually, not business-wise.
Whenever a woman sexually approaches me I assume that they have an STD. Going out to clubs with normies in the past showed me why those women are a bad idea.

Imagine seeing some woman make out with 8 other guys before she approaches you in one night. You're sitting there amazed and horrified at the same time with how nonchalant she is about it. In that moment I realized that there are people who just aren't worth it.
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>>539564878
I meant mating-wise. Most women doing this have ulterior motives. Women who approach are this type. I had the lingering suspicion for years but this world cup confirmed it
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>>539552691
Unfff, I wanna tonguepunch his fart box so bad bros
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Henlo frens,

Daily reminder that spam is part of an organized psychological warfare operation targeting (You).
The 4chan Community LLC is a cybercriminal organization encouraging and protecting the abuse of the 4chan user base.
Those threads are mechanically made by the same criminals every single day with the full cooperation of the moderation.
Here's the person responsible for that organized spam.
https://xcancel.com/GrapeApe9k/status/1993736309316133114#m
GrapeApe/RapeApe (AKA Partap Davis) is one of the principal cybercriminal on the 4chan platform.
Here he is quoting Yuri Bezmenov.
>A person who is demoralized is unable to asses true information
He very much knows what he's doing.
The gender war is the new identity politics for Gen Z.
They want you demoralized.
Frustrated.
Hating yourself and your own women.
They want to talk about women instead of the banks enslaving you or the Jews.
The exact same peoples, bots, canned replies, and reposts.
They spam you until you believe it.
It's called repetition trauma. They hammer your subconscious with an idea until it's the only thing you can talk about.
Wake up.
I believe in you.
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>>539552066
>Trying to confront women with material reality.
>Trying to apply formulaic approaches to women

Two biggest mistakes you can make with bitches. There is no formula for women, repeat that until it sticks. THERE IS NO FORMULA FOR WOMEN. Women always base their decisions on their emotional perceptions and hormonal impulses and only haphazardly apply logic as an afterthought to justify their decision. Any other "women always" statement is false and will go out the window once a woman's hormonal balance shifts or her emotional state changes. With women you are always playing by ear, yes there are some patterns and rhythms but they are always subject abrupt change.
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Nigger won the hecking world cup and she is already looking at other options lmfao. This shit is the result of radical feminism, she has no awareness of herself anymore, no respect for society and men. As a guy you are only good for what you provide for in the moment. And soccer players get flooded with exactly these kind of whores because those are the women who approach men. It is a toxic cycle, you have to find your woman yourself. If you rely on some pre-determined system like online dating or women approaching you after you achieved some imaginary state of being worthy enough you're cooked since in either case you only get these type of women or busted hags. Nothing more. The punishment for not being extroverted and opportunity seeking is greater than the payout for being exceptional.
I am a prime example for it, I am dating a woman significantly younger that is more attractive than the women these soccer dudes have. Why? Because these guys played the wrong game, relying on poor ways to procure women. They will pay for this for the rest of their lives, Some of the ones making less money might even kill themselves over this eventually.
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>>539564950
>jeeta pumped by whitey then monkey branches to mystery meat brown
I'd say the example of my club experiences matches the picture and same reason.
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>>539565186
>I am a prime example for it, I am dating a woman significantly younger that is more attractive than the women these soccer dudes have.

Okay that's not being fair to the shit skins. If it's browns and browns, obviously they will act like retarded animals regardless of the circumstance and are generally speaking dysgenic.

>you have to find your woman yourself.
I do agree with this at the end of the day.
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>>539552066
Birth control makes women attracted to feminine men. The most likely person to be attracted to that guy is a faggot, and by a lot.
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>>539552168
Very true. Women find dad bods with competent amount of muscle way more attractive.
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>>539565441
But if the guy she's attracted to is a faggot, then doesn't that make them straight since that's the type of male that they want?
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>>539564962
Brutal. I’ve learned the hard way never to date a girl that left her boyfriend for you. She will ditch you as soon as she is bored. These girls always end up single mothers and fat
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>>539564777
Trips of truth
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>>539565149
>Trying to apply formulaic approaches to women
Yeah, I have to laugh every time I see these hypergamy incel-graphs. The bitter reality is that most women in the West are ruined and hate men, they are on the mission to maximum extract. You cannot have a relationship with them. The ones who approach you are the worst. You have to filter to find romantic and agreeable outliers. That is how you date. Anything else is either instant failure or failure + humiliation to far greater degrees over time.

>>539565219
The point is she doesnt give a shit, these guys are meal tickets or fun experiences to her. And society shelters her from consequences. Feminism ruins women because misandry becomes the default. And since most men want relationships to ensure a steady access of sex they regardless of their value are all automatically put into the loser box. Mark my words if any of these guys, even the third guy she supposedly likes more, make the mistake to marry her this marriage will be ending by her cheating him with a low status man who doesnt give a damn about her.

>>539565346
Soccer whores usually arent attractive, they are simply aggressive golddiggers who push their annoying faces first in line. With the fanrows and such during concerts we literally have a culture supporting that. If you are a 6/10 woman and aggressive as fuck you have better chances to get with a soccer player than being a 9/10 who isnt doing anything like that. They literally surround themselves with the worst women on earth

>>539565528
She will cuck that third guy too if she ever gets with him. Feminism likely was a genetic selection event and the worst women show their true faces. Stupid as we are we support it with welfare.
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I think they should fear the growing consensus that the rational decision, if the conflict has a high causality rate like Ukraine v. Russia, would be for every young male being drafted to kill domestic military management and politicians. If they're likely going to die in combat anyways, very little reason to not also likely die trying to overthrow the state violently.
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>>539560654
>Meanwhile homeless chads
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>>539560654
>That gay ass flowery boarder on the wall
>Some shitty tarp thing with some homosexual dragon thing
>No guns lying around anywhere
Breh. Tear that flower shit off, do it right and use beach towels on that window, buy like 40$ worth of commercial carpet and staple it to the boards on the floor, buy a 125$ used gun and that room is like 100% better. You don't even paint the walls or hide your piss jugs.
From one bro to another, no homo.
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>>539560654
Go get a full BMP and Urinalysis done at a local lab metabolic health indicators for kidney function,
dat foamy piss...if you allow your piss jug to sit for a while do you notice a lot of sediment settle at the bottom ? if so, when you do what I told you, you will notice a change over time (improvement) which sellout docs don't think is possible even though loads of people have improved their conditions with heart and kidney diseases using green hypernourishing smoothies, loading up on those omega-3...consistency is key, i got the recipe from Dr. Goldner who got a lot of people auto-immune diseases to go dormant (including her own Lupus)

you can start drinking
>Kale
>Chia seed
>Flaxseed
>Pineapple
smoothies made with a high powered blender to start getting your kidney function to stabilize with your new daily active lifestyle, go break a sweat walking around some hills. High omega-3 ratio will keep you out of inflammatory state(obviously need to cut out all seed oils which are packed with omega-6, killing ur ratios that you want to maintain at 3.0 or above ideal. The body cells will start working at a high efficiency to allow you to heal as much as possible.
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i remember like 15 years ago when a physique like that was impresses
now i see it and think nothing
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I saw this guy posting on /fit/
How do i achieve his face?
:(
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>>539552066

Bitches aren't in to that much muscle. Just don't be fat and look kind of strong. That's as far as you need to take it.
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>>539552066
The effort isn't important
Effort doesn't translate into genes
The gene selector caste has to look past the inconsequentials
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>>539566960
Another one of thr /fit/ guy
Is he mewing or is it genetics
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>>539552066
>chad
That guy is ugly
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>>539552066
>roid yourself until you look like a runaway lab experiment
>stand around and flex while you wait for women to come to you like a street hooker waits for customers
>norwood
>>539552168
fpbp
Looksmaxxing is literally a gay grooming op.
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>>539560409
This
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>>539553790
Step 1: Stop giving a fuck about what women want. Just walk up and try to fuck them. Move on if one doesn't want to because theres an infinite supply

There, I solved it for you.
Literally what kind of estrogenized homosexual söyboy even wastes a second caring about what women want.
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>>539552691
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>>539559913
Not bad for definitely being a bit....tubby
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https://www.youtube.com/shorts/AcQ8OBq-oXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIvtiNpKEY0



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