Under Orthodoxy you can divorce your wife if she cheats on you. In Catholicism you cannot.Why do people still hate Orthodoxy? It appears more humane in every possible way than Catholicism
>>539552295Christcuckery is such a retarded religion. Christcucks are iddiots
>>539552295Catholicism also says you can buy a ticket to heaven, which was a major driving factor behind the protestant movement.
>>539552295>Why do people still hate Orthodoxy?Because it's a russian religion and russians stink.
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>>539552512And in orthocuckery you can force God to move someone from hell to heaven. They literally believe they prayed Stalin out of hell.
>>539552553Russia just makes the problem obvious. The Moscow Patriarchate can baptize imperial ideology because its institutional identity is deeply fused with the Russian state and Russian civilizational claims.That is the failure mode of Orthodoxy. The Church ceases to stand above the nation as judge and begins functioning as its sacred memory, chaplain, and legitimating myth.
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>>539552602Source?
it doesn't look like there's an actual Orthodox church in my entire state. where in the US is a good place for Orthodoxy? is there a map for hotspotsyou know, quality locations,
>>539552553>Because it's a russian religionand that makes it BASED
>>539552295>Yet another anti-Christian thread by kike shills. >Why is it so important for kikes to attack Christianity? >Why do they want you to be anything but Christian? >Always do the opposite of what Jews tell you to do. These facts alone should drive you to become Christian.
>>539553593Orthodoxy is Christian, retarded mutt
>>539552384Everyone who has ever posted the word "christcuck" on this board will defend the Scofield Reference Bible and the historically revisionist Zionist position that jews are the Israelites of the Old Testament. Every single one. You are a Zionist, and I will never stop pointing out how strange and unnatural your position on the matter is.A sincere nonbeliever would be willing to acquiesce without fuss or bother that the jews are probably lying about being the ancient Hebrews. Only someone invested in an ideology of their own, one they aren't interested in sharing, would defend 19th century jewish propaganda so fervently.tl;dr, you pretend to hate the jews but will defend provable jewish lies to your last breath. You betray your real identity with your own memes They pretend to hate the jews but will defend provable jewish lies to their last breath, they betray their real ((((identity and agenda))).
>>539553593>Always do the opposite of what Jews tell you to do. Jewish neocons want me to be christian so...
>>539553797They do not want you to be Orthodox. They want you to be protestant or catholic
>>539552295How about we ignore both the whore of babylon (roman catholic) and one of her prostitute daughters (schismed orthodoxy) and just focus on what did Jesus Say to do>save for the cause of adulteryTheres your answer, no need for a disputr, you either abide in the Truth of Scripture or are a pharisee who picks and chooses which Commandments he wants to follow and rather imposes vain traditions of men as if they were the Laws of GodPharisees were Rebuked for their oral torah, modern pharisees will be Rebuked for their apostasy under the guise of christendom
>>539553862>save for the cause of adulteryHe actually said sexual immorality
>>539552602>force GodNope.Only jews and their heretiprot minions try to do that and get utterly destroyed every single time.
>>539553665>you pretend to hate the jews but will defend provable jewish lies to your last breath. You betray your real identity with your own memesSums up christian larpers pretty well.
>>539552295Ortodox is the closest to judaism
>>539552295>Why do people still hate Orthodoxy?Caths are programmed this way, prots are just useful imbeciles indoctrinated to hate everything it's not zionist protestantism. They even go pilpuling when shown that The Holy Bible contradicts their stance.
>>539554127>evangelical protestantism is the closest to judaismFtfy.Orthodox are closest to God.
>LARP threadFantastic I've been looking for one of these. Lemme ask you fags a real question: when is SSPX going to declare an antipope? They said that they can ordain bishops without the Pope's say-so, ergo they believe the have the real Pope, so who are they saying is the real Pope? Or are they literally just doing Old Catholicism 2.0?I ask because I can't find anything about them unveiling one, and yet it's been almost a month since they were excommunicated.
>>539552602>prayedPraying is not forcing it's ...well...praying.Building the third temple in order to literally force The Apocalypse is ...well. forcing.
>>539554127How so? Judaists literally believe that those who oppose Yahweha re boiling in a literal lake of fire.Orthodoxy however believes in a merciful God and that hell does not exist as a real place, but is rather a feeling of terror that you get when you stand in front of the God that you reject.Judaism = cruel God that burns you with fire and tortures youOrthodoxy = a benevolent God that loves you, hell is only a personal prison in your mind which you choose to maintain to separate yourself from God willingly
>>539554355It is not really forcing since all events are part of God's plan. God himself has planned that the evangelicals will create the third temple.So God already knows in advance
>>539553862>schismed orthodoxyYou are a low iq heretical protestant retard.It's catholicism that schismed from Orthodoxy not the other way round.Orthodoxy is The Original Church and holds The Original One True faith.As for whores of babylon and their daughters...well...talmud was conceived during babylonian captivity under babylonian influences and protestantism is just talmudic zionism so....you're the prostitute and your talmudic zionist mother is the whore of babylon.
>>539553593>Always do the opposite of what Jews tell you to do.Based anti christian poster
>>539552384fpbpcrossniggers will seethe
>>539552553to all drooling retards with russia derangement sydrome:>orthodoxy isn't a russian religion - they merely adopted it>cyrillic isn't a russian alphabet - they merely adopted itthis is like hating mutts because they like mayonnaise
>>539554452>It is not really forcing since all events are part of God's plan. God himself has planned that the evangelicals will create the third temple.You don't know what God is thinking or what are his plans.It is forcing bc they they think if the temple is build, the end of the world will come and rhwy will be saved and some of the jews will also convert and be saved.Highly arrogant on theit behalf but then again their father - a murder from the begining and the father of lies - did fall from Heaven bc of pride.>So God already knows in advanceThat's because
>>539552295>Orthocucks Why be religious at all you are not serious even Muslims are better than you
thinking of making my first trip this sunday bros
>>539554750>they merely adopted itHeretical prots can not comprehend the very concept of autocephaly which we have to thank your ancestors for, bulgarian anon specifically Tsar Boris and his able maneuvering between the Patriarchate of Constantinopole and the Pope of Rome not yet schismatic at the time.Prots are indoctrinated to attack and destroy any form of Church conflating all non protestants with the Catholic Church whom they loathe deeply. Basically just jewish projection and seething at their temple destruction at the hands of the romans. The prots jewish masters consider the Catholic Church as heir of the roman empire.Catholics on the other hand know exactly what autocephaly is and seethe unontrollably at it as it allows each nation to have its national church serving the intetests of their nations which is how it should be.
>>539552295Of course none of you fags can answer this. In the Catholic church the man and woman are their own ministers for the marriage sacrament, by vows exchanged before God. The church does not create the bond, so the church has no authority to break it. Divorce is just considered separation, it is a legal arrangement and has nothing to do with the sacramental marriage. Remarriage is the problem, as the prior marriage still exists. However, it is necessary for several conditions to exist, for the marriage to be valid. One is lifelong fidelity, another is the openness to bearing children. If these do not exist, the marriage can be declared invalid, annulled. These are basically the same conditions as the Orthodox place on their ecclesiastical divorce. In practice they are roughly equivalent.
>>539553665>NNNOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T HATE JEWS UNLESS YOU'RE CHRISTIAN!!
>>539552967>is there a map for hotspotsAny metro >1 mil (all US orthodox until 2020 were immigrants), and Alaska (former russian colony)t. ortho
>>539552295I don't even really understand how one becomes Orthodox.I like the church, but they make you go for like 2 years before they'll even convert you and you don't get to take communion unless you're a convert. They also drag their feet to convert and nobody likes new people in the church, you're basically shoved in the back and nobody talks to you.
>>539554833>That's becauseHe is Omniscient
>>539552295>Under Orthodoxy you canmarry your gay partner!
>>539555875That is good. If you don't do this then you get really "devout" converts who constantly evangelize and patronize others, as you see in Catholicism, especially traditional Catholicism. SSPX are all converts for example.You need time to convert and there needs to be skepticism to make sure it is not jist a fad or a larp like it is with trad caths
>>539555875>I don't even really understand how one becomes American.>I like the country, but they make you live there for 5 years before they'll even give you citizenship and you don't get to vote unless you're a citizen. They also drag their feet to naturalize and nobody likes new people in the country, you're basically shoved in the barrio and nobody talks to you.
>>539555875>they make you go for like 2 years before they'll even convert you As they should. This is not a country club. It's the Holy Church. You have to prove yourself worthy. You don't get admitted to University whitout an exam do you? Moreso here.>and you don't get to take communion unless you're a convert.Well dooh. Isn't that logical? You are not a convert yet, you're just a catechumen an aspiring candidate. How can you take communion if you're not yet a convert i.e.baptized in The Holy Church?
>>539554913>Why be religious at all To make jews and shabogoys like you seethe uncontrollably on some mongolian basket weaving forum.>you are not seriousLiar
>>539556080False statement!Look it up!
>>539556200Except the US doesn't do that, they give them free healthcare funded by actual citizens, $1500 in ebt, $2000 housing stipend, and $800 monthly allowance, and these numbers aren't even really exaggerated.I can deal with the rest with Orthodox, but the whole acting like you're an intruder is annoying.
>>539556327Yeah fucking right man. They accept anyone’s kids into the church so the church is basically everyone’s family.
>>539555460May Christ God Almighty Incarnate lead your steps into His Holy Church!
>>539552295>In Catholicism you cannot.why????Jesus literally says its ok to divorce your wife for adultery in the bible...do catholics seriously think the church knows better than jesus? Dostoevsky was right about these people
>>539556503The Arab and ROCOR churches are full of converted Americans now, no one will treat you like an intruder anymore. The church has 6x'd in the US since 2020, meanwhile for every American that becomes a catholic 12 catholics leave
>>539556632gayreeks are just jerks to everyone, they are a jewish tier ethnic club
>>539556758Not even true at Greek churches here anymore. One more generation and they might not even have any greek speakers left at all
>>539556979The Greeks I know don't speak any greek and they are like 3rd generation but remain high as a kite on WE WUZ EMPURURSmeanwhile when I've visited Arab churches full of displaced Palestinians and they treated me like their own
>>539556632ROCOR is to ROC what SSPX is to Catholicism
>>539552295Does it matter at all? Christians don’t give a fuck about the doctrine, they just want the identity label to larp as a community. How many christians are waiting till marriage?
>>539557398you're thinking of Old Believers. ROCOR was rolled back into the ROC 20 years ago
>>539553646>D&C thread>not subversive 1st day?>>539554651Why leave out the rest of what Paul said?>But whatever were gains to me I now consider loss for the sake of Christ. 8 What is more, I consider everything a loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them garbage, that I may gain Christ 9 and be found in him, not having a righteousness of my own that comes from the law, but that which is through faith in Christ—the righteousness that comes from God on the basis of faith. 10 I want to know Christ—yes, to know the power of his resurrection and participation in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, attaining to the resurrection from the dead.>>539556610>do catholics seriously think the church knows better than jesus?That is any denomination that puts their particular church tradition above Christ.
>>539556610>catholics seriously think the church knows betterahem>Nostra aetate, or the Declaration on the Relation of the Church with Non-Christian Religions, is an official declaration of the Second Vatican Council, an ecumenical council of the Catholic Church. >The shortest of the 16 final documents of the Council, it is "the first in Catholic history to focus on the relationship that Catholics have with Jews." >a sympathetic Pope John XXIII endorsed the creation of a document which would address a new, less adversarial approach to the relationship between the Catholic Church and Rabbinic Judaism.
>>539555875And don’t forget that most parishes in the states don’t baptize converts, and the church fathers say that there is no salvation without orthodox baptism.
>>539557742both of your statements are false moshe. denounce the talmud right now
>>539557742>most parishes in the states don’t baptize convertswhat? that can't be real
>>539552384> me why yes I believe in a Turk who stabbed out his eye to learn the meanings of marking and that a wolf eats the sun how could you tell?
>>539555816ok, so nothing north of Denver? (and west of chicago, ignoring Seattle)
>>539555816why anyone would live in a metro over a million is beyond me. seems fundamentally opposed to orthodoxy altogether ironically
>>53955229590% of catholic divorces get approval from the churchthey don't take their rules very seriously
>>539552295Well of course, Orthodoxy values the soul first not foid feelings and screeching.>>539552553It's not a "Russian" religion you retarded ape, each of us have our own seperate Church and Patriarch, our own rules and our own traditions.Orthodoxy is an ethno-centric religion which is exactly why globohomo faggots like you hate it so much.
>>539552384christcuck here, u mad?"others have done the hard work and you have reaped the benefits of their labor." -JesusJesus is Lord
>>539557864Talmud is antichrist literature, true.>>539557742baptized in Jesus' name.
>>539552295Doesn't it even teach in the Bible that the only thing that truly ends a marrige between two individuals is infidelity? Did Catholics skip that part or something?
>>539560321>baptized in Jesus' name.The church fathers are clear that baptism in a heresy is not a true baptism.
>>539559248Somehow I guess you were in that upper rockies region. IIRC a large chunk of MT, ND, SD, WY is served by one priest who is in a different state every week. Washington and Idaho have parishes where you wouldn't expect them though, like Sandpoint.>>539559297If you spend enough time at morning matins you start to notice how many saints during the Byzantine era were either emperors or their sycophants as if the whole world were the city of Constantinople. Doesn't make any sense to me either
>>539561435it's not a herecy to be baptized in Jesus' name.Jesus is Lord.
>>539562417>I know better than Jesus
>>539557898Some converts have to pay money to get baptized. Note this it is not all EO churcheshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqKl5bVJi9Q
>>539552295Regardless of how you worship your Jewish messiah. You’re still worshiping a Jewish messiah
>>539552295Marriage is forever. What do you not understand here? The weak Russian soiboys love divorce because they are degenerates.
>>539553665(((They))) know that to engage with arguments like yours in good faith, (((they))) would lose.
>>539552295People hate the truth anon, it will get you fired, mocked, ostracized from society and ultimately killed.
>>539552384This. Jupiter is king. Death to YHWH/moloch/ba'al/saturn. What a sticky bitch. Jupiter defeated him like 40 thousand years ago but nigga plotted and came back like 3 thousand years ago and has been brainwashing kike and gentile alike
>>539563389sometimes it has to end, my wife snapped and tried to kill our kids. I gave her 5 years to get help, she got worse, got addicted to drugs, last time I talked her she growled at me. I am 100% positive that my divorce was sanctioned by God.
Orthodoxy is wrong in this case. Divorce is immoral so long as either party lives. The process for terminating a marriage that has gone so utterly off the rails is the execution of the offending spouse.
>>539552384shalom fucking pedo
>>539563872??? >>539553862
>>539562602I don't know better than Jesus does.When He said "the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" what name is that? What is the Father's and the Son's and the Paraclete's name? That name is Jesus.Jesus is Lord.
>>539563872Jesus allows for divorce if it's due to sexual immorality.
>>539564359>Jesus said this but what he actually meant was...this is heresy by definition
>>539552295uh russians are orthodox and they are evil?
>>539564837no russian ever called me a racist
>>539564589What is the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit?Surely you know?Jesus is Lord.
>>539552295They hate Orthodox because they never bowed to the christkillers as part of the second Vatican convention like Catholicism did. That's what they hate about the traditionalist sect, they also don't acknowledge Vatican 2
>>539565453you called the talmud an antichrist text, and you are correct, but the antichrist would call it that too. it is not a denunciation. so i will ask you again, denounce the talmud
>>539565938I denounce the talmud. Everyone who believes it will be tortured forever when Jesus judges everything.-Artem DownJesus is Lord.
>>539552384agreed
>>539552295I'm pretty chill with the Orthodox, but that's mostly because i've NEVER actually met one.I've met Catholics, I've met Protestants, mormons, they're typically totally worthless human beings
>>539553593What use do I have for an ideology that wants me to forgive and show mercy to kikes?The answer is I have no use for it.
>>539552295Catholicism also has a loophole. It's called an annulment.Religion threads should all be moved to /x/ because they have no place on /pol/this board is already riddled with ridiculous stupidity with enough culture war slop. we don't need more bickering over religion polluting things here./ thread
>>539567383tbis is a politics boardJesus being Lord and King means Monarchy and Feudalism, which qualify as political topics.Jesus is Lord.
>>539567592Monarchism and feudalism are only one of many different systems of government that can prevail when theocratic principles are supposed to guide society. Before the creation of the Davidic monarchy, for example, Israel was a de facto anarchist regime under the guidance of judges
>>539553913he actually said fornication as in stanley ann dunham tries to pin frank marshall davis jr on barack hussein obama by marrying obama as soon as she finds out shes pregnant. but adultery is covered in 1 Cor 7, if the unbeliever leaves, let her go, a brother is not in bondage
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>>539552384FPBP
