I gotta prepare for the end. Nigs and spics are taking over. They are already the majority in my city and its only getting worse. They keep chimping out. Its not safe here anymore. This is my first choice. Im gonna get a rifle and a pistol soon. thoughts?
Inb4 anti-American shills
>>539555678>I gotta prepare for the endshotgun for an hero, ar platform for battling barbarians at the gate
>>539555678>DO IT NIGGA!
Just make sure you actually practice with it a bit, don't let the first time you actually use it be when a nigger is breaking through your bedroom door.
>>53955567812 gauge autoloader. The 45 long slide with laser sighting. Phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. Uzi 9mm.
>>539555678https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/Im%20buying%20my%20first%20gun/You're never going to buy a gun DDDD:
>>539555678You're better off buying quality up front and building your skills around that platform.Spring for an upper-tier AR-15 (Daniel Defense, BCM, Geissele, or similar) and add accessories over time. Get good with Iron sights, then add an ACOG/LPVO. Get proficient with your shooter drills, then add a foregrip/hand-stop. Get comfortable shooting in regular light conditions, then spring for a tactical light (Surefire would be my choice) and pressure pad, then later a LAM (Steiner DBAL A3). In the end you should have a well-built duty weapon that you are comfortable and proficient with. You should also put about 3000 rounds through it over the next year.Hope that helps!
>>539555678You need something concealable unless you want to be the dork carrying a long rifle everywhere you go, getting harassed for it too, also become the first target for any aggressor. I carry a 9mm with a 16 round clip, double-stack.
>>539555678When they tell you that you don't need a 30-round magazine, think about why they want you to think that.
>>539555678get a .22 and learn how to shoot before you get anything else.
>>539556348kek
>>539556321>12 gauge autoloader. The 45 long slide with laser sighting. Phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt range. Uzi 9mm.You know your guns. Any one of these would be perfect for home defense.
>>539555678What is sad when poor white Christians can't escape them. We have no choice but to buy a house in their neighborhood and get shat on.I'm lucky to have gotten a shitty rundown house built by migrants, the neighborhood still has a lot of old white boomers and there are a few spics littering the street. Literally littering because despite having a dumpster for trash they always put the trash outside of it.
>>539556385>Get good with Iron sights, then add an ACOG/LPVOIf you already have the money for a Gucci rifle, you might as well get a Vortex FFP scope with 22x magnification for like 400 or less dollars. Even if you can't shoot accurately at the full range of the scope, you can use it for recon while holding your weapon at ready behind cover
>>53955567812 gauge kicks like a mule even with birdshot loads. Be sure to take it out into the country and run several different loads through it so you will know what to expect from the recoil. Might think about a limbsaver recoil pad after that.
>>539555678You won’t do shit
>>539557301if you're a 125lbs stickboy weakingif you're that much of a bitch get a 20ga.
>>539555678The 500 is superior to the Maverick and for not much more money.
>>539556881.22 is all you need, plus it bounces around in the body it's the most deadly
>>539555678Nothing ever happens. And if it does have fun being in absolute nightmare of legal trouble and lawyer slop only for a left wing judge to sentence you to 45 years to life
>>539557375I've taken a half dozen deer by headshotting them with a 22
>t. Im buying my first gun
>>539556881Stupid advice for a 1 gun-only setup. You want to be able to kill humans at 100 or more yards, not injure squirrels at 20 feet.
>>539557450you've never fired a gun have you?
>>539556321>Phase plasma rifle in the 40 watt rangeHey, just what you see, pal.
>>539557346This is /pol/So he is most likely a leftist trannie from Portland.
>>539555678Rifle: M4 style AR15 with either an EOtech or Aimpoint optic (dont cheap out on it your optic is your most important accesoriy). Get some reliable magpul or USGI mags.Pistol: Go to a rental range and try a few. Beretta 92, Browning Hipower, 1911, Sig Saur, Glock. I was glad I did this before buying my first pistol. I was deadset on a SigP226 but I shot a heck of a lot better with a Glock 17 and Beretta 92. Keep in mind getting a .45 ACP is nice but the ammo is a lot more expensive than a 9mm which = less practice time.Get a shotgun too in 12g. Can't go wrong with either a mossberg 500 series or remington 870. You can easily swap the barrel lengths out for different duties (eg 18 inch for home defense and a longer barrel with optional chokes for hunting). Get a surefire foreend for it.Definitely pick up a .22 rifle like a ruger 10/22, a ruger .22 pistol and even pellet guns to train with. You can do 90% of your shooting practice with these to save a lot of money on ammo.
>>539555678Just buy a Mini 14/thread
>>539557601czs are damn fine pistols too
>>539557301Yep, you have to learn how to position it correctly before firing.>>539557346It's not like in the movies, faggot, try firing a sawed off 12-gauge with one hand.
>>539555678see>>539556061mag fed centerfire rifle, if they're in scattergun range in shtf you fucked up. shotgun for hunting or drones, rifle for crowds of shitskins, in real shtf.
>>539557668Truth. My mistake for not mentioning that one. The instructor on my IPSC Black Badge course had a CZ Shadow. Let us all shoot it. Solid well built gun that absorbs most of the felt recoil.
>>539557705I've fired more 12ga rounds than you ever willOnly a complete moronic faggot takes what i said as "shoot a 12 ga one handed or you're weakNOguns retard spic
>>539557634Mini 14 sucks with its proprietary .223 mags and shitty accuracy.
>>539556061>ar platformI prefer the Ruger mini-14, the M1A, and the SOCOM 16.
>>539557839>if you're a 125lbs stickboy weakingYou have fired shit>NOgunsYou can own guns in Spain, retarded mutt
>>539557814You should have all the above but for the first gun I think a shotgun is best and most versatile, especially for a noob. Shotgun first, deer rifle second, handgun third, assault rifle fourth and repeat for all the members in your household.
>>539557842I used to have one before they banned them here. I got one because it was one of the only non restricted 5.56mm rifles I could take in the woods legally (AR15 are relegated to only range use here) Reliable rifle.The ergonomics are shit.OK accuracy.I would have never bought one if I could just take my BCM AR15 in the woods legally.
R.A.I. VR82 in 20 gauge with 3 additional 9 round magazines of #3 buck in a tac vest.
>>539555678Good choice, buy bird shot for practice and slugs for combat. Learn to use it safely, take a class and keep it locked up if you have kids over. You can load the internal magazine tube, but keep the chamber clear until you need to use it.
>>539555678Just follow the guide.
>>539558004You have no clue pedro i was on a competition shooting teamthis was before i was in the army as well.Your scrawny short beaner ass would struggle with a 12ga.
>>539555678Get a BR and practice your BXR, double shot, fourshot. You don’t want to be landing body shots if the other guy is a legit 45 in MLG playlists.
>>539558095bird shot is effectively a slug in home defense ranges.he could use wax slugs as wellthis will keep the overpenetration down.
>>539558106Nice. I second the SKS for a cheap starting rifle. Those are a lot of fun and easy to train new shooters on. Get one of those cheap chinese communist chest rigs and you have a good basic setup.
12 gauge is a good choice for defense.
>>539555956Prove that, but also why were they supposedly shooting niggers?
>>539555678
>>539555678You need a Glock or similar reliable 9mm with a proven 5.56 semiautomatic rifle. A shotgun is kinda useless desu. They're good against FPV drones but it takes a master marksman and a lot of practice, which isn't cheap. Basically 1 FPV drone per hit.You also want a 4x4 truck and steel plates you can quickly attach around the cab.Essential survival kit consists of>Morakniv or similar survival knife with a compass and a Ferro rod>Steel mug>Military poncho>Pocket binoculars>LighterBackpack, tactical size, fill with the following>Medpack, a standard car first aid kit will do>Plastic bags, fill one with 2nd set of underwear and socks>Paper map of the local area>A proper compass like Suunto>Mechanical pen>Note book>A decent survival book>Flashlight, something like Varta F30 with some extra batteries>Some lightweight tent and sleeping bag if they fit and aren't too heavy (you can toss them or hide somewhere)>Probably forgot something important but you can look up bug out backpacks for more infoThe backpack should never exceed 5-10 kilos and you also need to save some room for the military poncho, steel mug and military field rations. Knife, binoculars are always on your belt, lighter stays in pocket. A tent isn't a necessity because the military poncho also works as a tarp or ground sheet, and with a proper location and fire you'll be just fine. A tent and sleeping bag come useful when you can't make a fire and there is no natural wind cover. But that's rare and only happens in hostile or contested areas. You could also have some hook and line, they're lightweight and small, but again not a necessity. You should already own the survival gear and practice using them in your backyard and later in real wilderness. Learning how to navigate is essential, use the compass and paper map, but keep your phone map available in training. You won't have your phone in extreme situations.
>>539556684>When they tell you that you don't need a 30-round magazine, think about why they want you to think that.That tells me I need something belt fed, with a high sustained rate of fire.
>>539558137I have two 12 gauge, one classic double barrel and one semi-auto.
>>539555678Get a semi-auto .22LR with fuck tons of ammo
>>539556881>get a .22correct.223 (5.56x45)5.7x28.22 magnum.22 long rifle
>>539558502I would love to have an M240 as my shtf gun lol
>>539555678My honest advice is to not let guns become your entire personality. Its fucking cringy as fuck and a huge waste of money. Just get a glock (or any 9mm really) and be done with it. >muh shotgunWay too fucking messy. Unless you enjoy smelling tiny pieces of nigger skull slowly decaying in your walls forever, skip this meme gun. And racking it doesn't scare people away. Guns should only be used to kill people not to scare them. If you are too big a pussy to pull the trigger then get a dog. That's going to be 1000x more effective at deterring break ins. >muh AR15What are you a fucking sniper? This thing can kill a whole school bus full of children 5 football fields away and makes you look like a fucking psycho. Good luck pleading self defense when the kike lawyer drags this thing out in court. >muh pepper sprayIts not equally effective on everybody. Its pretty ineffective on spics that each serrano peppers for breakfast lunch and dinner and crackheads that did so much they can't even feel their face anyway. Good for carrying around instead of a gun but I wouldn't want to bet my life on it.
data mining
>>539558747Get out of this thread then faggot
>>539557491Like I said, stupid advice for a 1 gun only setup in which other humans may be targets. Decent advice if you're living in a shack in the middle of nowhere with nothing to eat but squirrels and coyotes, with no potential for armed human enemies.
Just get a glock and a .22
>>539558746>I would love to have an M240 as my shtf gun lolyou can buy them in US as single shot semi-auto, in some cases with the proper license you can get the full auto but its expensive. Do what Joel Singer did and have your uncle buy Lahti anti tank rifle for $800 - oh the good old days.
>>539558475Ah yes, tactical gloves. They may not seem like a necessity, if you've never trained using your survival gear. But they are useful in any craft work you may end up doing, or climbing, or dealing with hot objects like for example boiling water in your steel cup. They protect against small wounds and splinters, provide a better grip, and of course keep your hands warm.
>>539558038my opinion, especially if were getting anon ready for shitskinhtf, is rifle first, then handgun, then shotgun. whatever, this is a 1pbtid datamining thread anyway.
>>539557634Any bargain bin ar15 is superior to a mini 14 these days at lower price. And for equivalent price you can get proper rifle with trustworthy components.
>>539556348>https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/Im buying my first gun/This.For anons that haven't noticed the OP 1 pbtid = pasta
>>539558747>Good luck pleading self defense when the kike lawyer drags this thing out in court.This is why I recommend you LARP as a Fudd. Stick with a mini 14. Get a Henry Homsteader for a 9mm pistol caliber carbine. Get an M1A with wood furniture. Get a SOCOM 16 with furniture. If your whole gun collection has a bunch of wood furniture and has the appearance of a series of hunting rifles, then no one is going to think twice when you say to the cop/prosecutor, "I was in fear for my life and I used the hunting rifle on the assailant." An AR-15 looks like a scary military gun. A rifle with wood furniture simply looks like your grandfather's hunting rifle, even though a mini 14 is literally weapon of war
imagine being american and getting some shit tier pump action shotgun instead of a dirt cheap ar-15
>>539561566Probing to see who knows what, good thing most on /pol/ are retarded and suggest retarded things.
>>539555678You don't need anything but a rifle for home defense. I'd take grandpa's old K98 sporter over any pump shotty that isn't even drop safe.
>>539557705>from one handWhy in the fuck would I do that?
VGH...
>>539556321Just what you see pal
>>539559817faggots always mock me for not being manly enough because i use gloves with my firearms. but one time i went shooting with some people who weren't wearing them and their hands were turning completely black with filth just from loading up our clips, and mine were totally fine.
>>539559901>this is a 1pbtid datamining thread anywaySigh, you're right, this site is on life support nowadays. I don't like xitter for browsing, its fine if you know what to search for but I like browsing the catalog. I'll never forgive glowniggers and discord trannies for ruining this site.
>>53955924722lr is the cheapest ammunition and the most convenient to train with. Someone who trains with both their main arm and 22lr will always be better off than someone who only trains with their main arm becasue they will get more training in overall.
>>539562361but in 10mm
>>539563967i have a 10mm compact glock but i wish i also bought the 10mm full size variant as well. such a mean and nasty gun.
>>539557346>if you're a 125lbs stickboy weakingbecause of how physics worksa smaller person would not be as injured as a large person, as the large person has more mass, and would therefore resist a change in acceleration more strongly.a lighter person would simply be pushed backwards, dissipating the recoil energy with their entire body, whereas a larger person's body would dissipate the same energy in a more localized area.
>>539564173heterosexual friend that i don't let balls touch has a glock 40 and its the comfiest 10mm I have ever shot. Even buffalo bore 10mm feels tame. I've been wanting a 10mm pcc thinking if it fucks at pistol length barrels then it guarantees 1 hit drops through a carbine.
>>539564372that's not how shooting or physics work, you should try learning about human physiology and ballistics before you start babbling incoherently.
>>539564668...that is precisely how it works.it's even how shooting works.the little bullet travels at great speed because of it's small mass, and the firearm travels in the opposite direction much slower because of it's greater mass (f=ma therefore a=f/m).a smaller person firing a shouldered firearm has their upperbody pushed backwards and their upperbody moves as a unit.a larger person firing a shouldered firearm has their shoulder pushed backwards and their upper body moves less.the energy dissipation is more local in the larger person.basic physics.it's the difference between you dropkicking a soccer ball and a bowling ball.it's not hard, you're just dumb.
>>539564372>a smaller person would not be as injured as a large person,Except that the larger person also distributes the impact more effectively in a variety of ways, and 90% of this kind of injury is how it's distributed not total momentum or energy.
You could just move. You have zero knowledge of weaponry and you want to suddenly become Magnum Force. Ridiculous. Move to Westchestertonville instead of being an idiot.
>>539565232Every decent man in every place should be significantly armed. The unarmed are less than Men.
>>539557546>Hey, just what you see, pal.WONG
>>539557346>be 125 lbs>means you're extremely narrow>all your little organs are right on top of each other in a really narrow confined ribcage >take a shotgun round to the chest>slug rips every single organ to pieces simultaneously >your smaller lungs can't be repaired>your smaller intestines are completely destroyed >your tiny lil heart is disintegrated all 4 valves
>>539556385>3000 roundsDon't bullets cost about a buck a piece now days?
>maverick 88I think that's probably the cheapest worst shotgun.Go for the Mossberg 500 series instead.
>>539565218same(ish) rifle.little person:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trX_Pq_23Pglarge person:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EultCbxoOAUit is exactly as i said.
>>539565613>it is exactly as i said.What the fuck are you talking about, the midgets were hurt and full size men can shoulder 50BMG all day long.
>>539555678Start out small. A 308/AR-10 is a good beginner option. The massive and larger AR-15 with it's larger 556 round is too much to start out with.
>>539555678Fuck off bot, this same thread has been posted dozens of times.
you needs you a stendo and tactical life vest yo!your broke ass couldn afford the beams prolly.
>>539555678>>539556348Shotguns aren't very good first guns. An AR is better, has less concussion and is more fun to shoot at a static range. A pistol is easier to store and you can conceal carry it. Shotguns are only good for self defense if you plan to also hunt with it or have access to a clays range. Or if you live in some kind of weirdo jurisdiction where you can only get a shotgun. Shotguns with barrels under like 26ish inches are unpleasant to shoot, especially indoors due to the concussion, have lower capacity and shooting static targets at a range with a shotgun is boring
>>539555678Don't bother buying a gun. Just 3D print one. It's super easy. Just buy a 3D printer and in about 30 minutes you can print a fully functional AR-15. You can also print the ammo. You don't really need any experience with 3D printing. I have no idea why people still buy guns.
>>539566351print a gf while you are at it yo.
>>539565797Very sound advice here. AR-15s are very dangerous and are weapons of war. Just get an AR-10 in .308 (a simple hunting bullet used on deer). That's 5 whole ARs less deadly than the mighty AR-15.
>>539558238Autoloading 12ga always have feeding problems. It's a squad level support weapon because you need 5 guys with rifles to cover you when it inevitably jams.
>>539566636Those are still too big of a gun anon, you should only have mini-guns. They are small, hence the mini.
>>539566314>Shotguns aren't very good first guns. An AR is better, has less concussion and is more fun to shoot at a static rangeI stopped reading at this point.
I just bought a new gun too!
>>539557842Your point on proprietary mags is valid, but if he's talking about home defence He's shooting murderous felons at 10 yards not varmints at 250 yards.
>>539567166guns are banned in your brown country, no gunz
Lower caliber that you can afford to practice with. Shot placement is more important than big boomer bang noise. 9 is a good start. 380 or 38 for concealment otherwise. You see officers at the range shooting 45 all day and it looks like they threw pepper on a plate. Can't hit shit.
>>539566636>AR-15s are very dangerous and are weapons of war. Just get an AR-10 in .308I AGREE. 308 is almost half as small as 556 and a better choice. 5 less assault rifles is a better bet. don't get me started on teh M14, 13 more Ms than the M1 and a lot more powerful than the Grand.
>>539567028>still too big of a gun anonsometimes days want to be a sexual tyrannosaurus, some days you just want to jerk off and go to bed. depends if your gf's vagina has an echo... echo
>>539555678>thoughts?You should probably get a 9mm pistol first. There are lots of good options. Find one that's well reviewed and on sale and get it. PSA Dagger is a knock off Glock clone made by Palmetto State Armory and would probably be one of your cheaper options. The Beretta APX is a really good gun and sells for cheap, just get the full size or compact not the really small one.https://gun.deals/category/hand-guns?caliber=1&capacity_min=&capacity_max=Maverick 88 is probably the best value gun on the market. Handle it at the gun store and see if the length of pull on the pump is comfortable for you. If you can't easily rack the pump then you might need to get a buttstock that's shorter, I'm 6 feet tall and I found the buttstock on my Maverick 88 to be a little too long so I replaced it with a 12 inch LOP Hogue stock then put a Limbsaver recoil pad on it. Made the gun very comfortable.I also recommend Remington law enforcement low recoil 00 buckshot. Its effective for defense; but gives you less recoil for follow up shots. Also reasonably priced.
>>539555678Kek, find out bitch. I'm probably better armed than you are and you have access to better guns and ammo. But our black market is way better.
>>539555678I saw a police officer today in s grocery store in northern New England (which is crazy. No violence here at all). Then I looked around and realized I was in little Mogadishu. It was pretty crazy.
>>539568756>memeflagI doubt that, guns are banned in india
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>>539563757You have to wear some gloves in a cold climate, might as well be tactical.
>>539565232Everyone starts somewhere
>>539555678M&P9. Handguns are easy to use indoors and versatile, you can carry in a vehicle or on your person if you choose. Resist the gay urge to get a glookie, they are pieces of shit that jam in 60% of police shooting videos. The M&P 2.0 cannot be limpwristed, look up tests to prove it and look up Glock limpwristing tests to prove how shit it is.
>>539555678Buy a .22lr revolver or full-size semi auto pistol and get used to shooting. Then buy a full-size 9mm and practice with it. If you go from nothing to high caliber rifles and shotguns you're going to have a bad time.
>>539555678Good luck and success in whatever you want to do.
>>539555678If trapped in the city:Keltec sub2000 9mm with glock 30rd magsGlock 19If in the country/mountains with lots of trees and dense brush:Ruger mini 14Glock 21If in the country with wide open spaces30.06Ruger Mark ivSingle shot 12 guage with a bunch of barrel adapter inserts>See ya on the other side space cowboy
