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So how exactly can this war even end? The us cant defeat iran without a ground invasion or force it to open the hormuz.
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>>539561175
1 year from now, we'll probably still be talking about this war
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iran isnt going to let him out. donald has been trying to get out but iran just killed two fucking zogbots and their faces were plastered all over the news. they know what theyre doing
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>>539561175
you lost tranny
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>>539561175
Need some kino new nuke footage in HD, tired of those old test videos.
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>>539561556
The best outcome trump can get is a return to the status quo.
But iran wont be willing to do so without major concessions.
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>>539561655
If this war lasts his entire term i think trump is either going to drop a nuke or launch a ground invasion.
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>>539561175
The same way all american wars end. They give up, pretend that they won, and they go home.
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>>539561175
>So how exactly can this war even end? The us cant defeat iran without a ground invasion or force it to open the hormuz.
It's not supposed to end, its not designed to end Anon, this outcome is another step in the goal.
First was to get Europe dependent on the USA for energy which we will throttle them so they become failed states and their companies flee to the USA.
Now is part 2 now that we couldn't get the philipines to go to war with China, we are doing a distant blockade to strangle energy to China.

This is basically the United States losing the Grand Chess match and instead of accepting defeat throwing the table across the room.
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>>539561175
Trump can trade Ukraine for the Strait.
Russia and China would exert their influence on Iran.
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>>539561175
>ground invasion
That's what's going to happen. We are in the jewish endgame. The kikes know that the American populace is turning against Israel, so they're going into overdrive. It's why they've been pushing internet censorship, it's why they're ramping up the surveillance state with flock cameras and data centers everywhere, it's why there's all the talk about election fraud, It's why they're pushing Christianity, and it why they're trying to drum up a new red scare. The whole "muh Communist Third-Worldist" bullshit is mainly a response to leftist and right-wing populist sentiment against Israel and to a lesser degree kike business practice in America. America is about to experience Soviet-style jewish tyranny, and Trump is the man who is going to usher it in for them. There will be an invasion of Iran and there will be a draft. The social instability that it and economic damage caused by the two straits being closed is going to be used as a justification to go full on Noahide.
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>>539561175
He's gonna bomb pickaxe (or another target, one final bombing is my point), declare Iran defeated and probably refuse any demands.

Iran will get their toll, Oman will likely have no say.
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>>539561777 checked
and the funniest part is donald kvetching at the helm while it all goes down
>>539561659
basically this. he's fucked
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>>539561175
nuclear weapons.
the mountains actually make it good for minimizing fallout traveling out of Iran, since most of it will rain out on Iran itself.
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>>539562094
>basically this. he's fucked
Yup, he thought he was in control when he got convinced to go along, now this is all that will ever be remembered of his shitty second administration, followed by at least eight years of democrats who will probably start out with a supermajority.
It's bad when my parents, and grandparents aren't even going to vote this fall.
Those 95% approval numbers must be from CPAC attendees, because he fucked us all and made us look stupid.
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>no more noahide wars
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>>539561777
>This is basically the United States losing the Grand Chess match and instead of accepting defeat throwing the table across the room.
Based. I now approve of the war.
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>>539561175
It's going to end with tehran looking like gaza, and with a lot of dead Irannies. And with the Irannies not having nukes.
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>>539561175
Our elite are so stupid and evil that they think the destruction of Iraq, Afghanistan, and Lybia were successes. They want the same here (twenty years of war, then a national collapse and a refugee crisis) and cannot understand that Iran prepared for this and outplayed them.
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>>539561175
trump dies of 'natural' causes and the US pulls out directly. Trump cops the blame for every single thing that is wrong in the world for at least a decade to come.
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10 years from now, after the last occupation US troops leave. millions dead.
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>>539561175
All I know is that once this is over we are going burn a lot of books.
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>>539564800
>nukes
>the same jewish lie again and again for over 30 years
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>>539561175
Tactical nuke to say they "destroyed" the nuclear program, then declare victory. Honestly the only way out other than ground invasion while saving any sort of face, is to just declare victory and go home.
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>>539564800
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>>539565222
Holy shit you're all fucking retarded
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>>539561175
if it weren't for the us military's collosal ego the CIA could have simply funded some new isis in iran or just helped the taliban to start shit with iran with india helping them
good luck iran closing the strait when afghan niggers are overrunning your border with pajeet weapons massacring "shia kuffar"
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>>539565666
Norwegian btw kek
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>>539561175
We could do a ground invasion, and we would win, but it would be political suicide due to the financial and human cost
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>>539561175
let iran have nukes and let israel seethe.
if they don't act right, destroy both.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gujPXF1WLKI&ra=m
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>>539561175
same as any other war
one side blinks first
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>>539566194
FPV Zogbot kino is worth it.
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>>539565666
Silence demon. The Iranian people will overthrow tyranny and rejoin the international community. The oil will flow and the kikes will seethe.
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>>539561655
But then the world will realize nukes aren’t actually that powerful and want to use them.
Like honestly it’s just a big grenade at the end of the day it lasts like what less than a minute? Easily survivable by a big enough bunker, or deployable as a tactical suicide bomb
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>>539565998
>the CIA could have simply funded some new isis in iran
what do you think the literal billions given to the kurds were for? and why tf would we WANT to install isis anywhere, let alone iran?

>helped the taliban to start shit with iran with india helping them
yea cuz we have the most cozy working relationship with the taliban. as do india(?)

you sound fucking brainless my dude
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>>539566386
It’s ZogbótiñX
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Israel will have to accept the possibility of Iran getting nuclear weapons, controlling global shipping routes, and winning.

You can't win a war by killing more people when all you need is 1 or 2 drones or missiles or mines, to shutdown economic pathways.

It's just like the British attacking people to keep global colonial trade routes afloat, but the difference is that the USA is doing it for Israel, not caring about economics, and not meeting any objectives while lying and giving false reasons.
It sucks as an American.
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Donald here. We are nuking the sand niggers and blowing the dams North of Tehran. Can I find out how many of you Patriots will take Persian pussy and breed it. Once the women are pregnant we will return to Iran to repopulate the country when all the male sand niggers are sent to paradise. Also we have decided to drop the supreme leader from a helicopter in the Red sea so he will be eaten by sharks. His new pussy will fill up with water and the sutures will break and his pussy will fall off and be eaten by sea slugs. Disgusting sand nigger filth. Donald.
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>>539566694
Also the murdering of the Ayatollah and hundreds of kids is beyond disturbing. There's no real reason why an innocent granddaughter had to die. WW1 started over less serious assassinations.
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>>539566481
Two moar weeks, pvt Gomez
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>>539566496
>But then the world will realize nukes aren’t actually that powerful and want to use them.
>Like honestly it’s just a big grenade at the end of the day it lasts like what less than a minute?
The worst part of a nuke is probably the thermal radiation from the fireball that ignites everything for miles. Basically cooking tens of thousands or millions of people alive.
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>>539566530
>cozy working relationship
do you need that to tell a sandnigger here's an ak go fuck that sandnigger's house? if syria taught us anything is that the CIA knows exactly how to use these retards to get things done without military shitting and pissing all over the place like the retards they are
>kurds
I wasn't talking about those or the real isis dumbo. what I mean by isis is some persian shia retards who disagree with the ruling shias. there have to some in iran and even if there are none you can always create one out of thin air. sandniggers will follow anybody if they pay in dollars especially if they're in a starving pisshole like iran
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>>539566758
Look Patriots the more sand niggers we take out the fewer sand nigger soldiers come out the other end. We did good. My boys saved future Iranians from these thugs. Fuck all of the sand niggers. Donald
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>>539561175
The U.S. could leave and Iran would in turn charge for every ship leaving the strait of Hormuz until they are satisfied. That's probably the best option right now. Most likely things will continue to escalate and when the U.S. begins to have oil shortages they are going to get desperate. At that point I personally think it's more likely they will nuke Iran than to do a ground invasion.
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>>539566194
>and we would win, but it would be political suicide due to the financial and human cost
We could win, but would it happen before political pressure forces us to just give up? I fucking doubt it.
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>>539566481
Shame Haaland didn’t get that pass in the box.
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>>539566963
bullshit if anything Jews purposely tricked Trump into killing their religious leader who spawned a massive 7x birthwave, to keep the cycle of killing and money flowing
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>>539561175
i was assured by the very brownest minds of nu/pol/ that iran has already won
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>>539567934
But is it sustainable?
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>>539561175
It's the middle east man, the war there will never end.
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>>539566945
>do you need that to tell a sandnigger here's an ak go fuck that sandnigger's house?
no
but the problem is taliban is more likely to get in a fight with pakistan and/or the pakistani taliban than anyone else rn. they also still have legit isis cells they gotta take out. they still suicide bomb them semi-frequently. plus afghanistan is still jhust a ravaged wartorn hell. they got other shit to worry about, like water (hence the spat with pakistan) or food lol

>syria
there was a lot more foreign influence at play in syria than just the cia. which is why it got so fucking insane. to name a few: israel, UK, US, qatar, KSA, turks, iran

>what I mean by isis is some persian shia retards who disagree with the ruling shias
and theres plenty, you saw a lot of them protesting/killing IRGCfags in the street during that failed revolt earlier this year

the problem is that western cunts do not have a great way to get guns into iran (nor do they have much to spare after ukraine). they had an "ok" way in, with kurds. but the kurds had managed to get themselves fully kicked out of syria in the weeks prior, and they were already on the shit list of every other cunt they were in. so that ratline was fucked. and then to make matters even more 80IQ, the kurds went and popped off the planned coup, months early, while the US was in the caribbean.

kurds are just dumb af lol
thats what happened. when you heard about those "thousands" that got killed in those iranian protests in the western parts of the cunt? that actually happened. it wasnt necessarily civilians tho lol. that was them, getting fucking machinegunned to death. because they couldnt not be retarded and wait like 2 months.
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>>539561175
>So how exactly can this war even end?
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>>539566758
>Also the murdering of the Ayatollah and hundreds of kids is beyond disturbing. There's no real reason why an innocent granddaughter had to die. WW1 started over less serious assassinations.
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>>539561175
bomb all their infrastructure and starve them out.
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Either the USA goes all in and makes a ground invasion or it will continue like this until the USA realizes they can't prevent Iran from attacking the ships in the strait so they have to make some deal and retreat.
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>>539561175
30 year war with 5 million mutts drafted., biggest failure in history. Collapse the mutt empire and rise of Greater Israel as the soul world power and effective master of all goyim slaves. Eventually when robots are developed enough, the chosenites terminate them.Total Jewish victory.
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>>539561175
sit on your thumb and spin kike
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Declare victory and retreat, leaving allies in the region to suffer the consequences
You know, the usual
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>>539561255
more like 10-20 years from now
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>>539565178
>6-7 existed before the Mayan death of the world
Its true, meme magic DOES exist
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>>539566194
We weren't able to occupy Iraq or Afghanistan and Iran is like that times ten. Even Bush era neocons were afraid to invade Iran before trying to turn literally the entire rest of the middle east into our satellites first.
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Trump the slave to israel drives the global economy into crisis - weakens the U.S. military permanently and reduces its sphere of influence to the Western hemisphere and parts of Asia
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>>539561175
Bombing Israel would end it.
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>>539561175
>So how exactly can this war even end?
total us capitulation due to lack of escalation dominance + we're slowly running out of oil. even if our SPR has some left, oil will become so expensive that it'll be uneconomical to keep the war going. israel gets abandoned and torn to pieces by turkey + iran.
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>>539561175
The war will end when Iran bends the knee and they will. The US will simply seize their energy infrastructure and put the squeeze on them economically some more.

Blood must be spilled anyway in order to further demoralize Iran.
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>>539571781
bro there's no way they break with just us using standoff munitions and air strikes on them.
it's going to take 1 of 2 things:
1. A ground campaign we don't have the political will to commit to
2. Nukes which we probably do not have the resolve to use however Trump's language is going that direction so that *could* happen. But they'd have to push back to the point where if we DON'T nuke them or invade them we'd just have to withdraw and lose and result in all our Mideast allies considering us unreliable and developing nukes themselves (Saudi and Turkey are already taking the first steps towards this). It will come to.. either we use our nuclear umbrella to protect Saudi UAE Kuwait and Bahrain, or they are forced to make their own.

That's the knife's edge we are on.
But we're trying to delay going to that extreme of a route, but that's the reality. We're trying to tread water and Iran is targeting desalinization plants, that'll end up killing people days and weeks later.
How much longer will Saudi tolerate it? I don't know but they've made the first step to their own independent nuclear weapons program, disguised as a civilian nuclear power program.
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>>539561175
>So how exactly can this war even end?
The same way Afghanistan ended; a twenty-year occupation to replace the previous government with the previous government.
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>>539561175
they can block oil exports of iran and starve the country of external income making it an african shithole. pretty jewish and devilish if you ask me but it is being done
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>>539571781
there will one day come a time where the US will be subjected to the horrors that it has subjected the world to, and when that happens, i hope you're around for it
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>>539572706
they're not though, they're still getting shit from China, Russia and Turkey. Mahan Air is still flying into Istanbul, Moscow, and Beijing, you can track the flights, that's where they're getting their resupplies.
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>>539561777
mostly this, but there will be a blow to Israel from Iran. So much damage will be incurred that Israel will retaliate with tactical nuclear strikes, to the horror of the world populace. After this, a ceasefire- then a complete societal lockdown. People will be fearful for terrorist/extremist attacks in public and will welcome this new world in open arms. Flock cameras are already a step there.
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>>539561175
I think america further provokes them to destroy all energy infrastructure in the ME. Then forces US refiners to switch to refining light sweet crude and cuts off the rest of the world and makes trade deals based on this AMERICA FIRST
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>>539561175
Supposedly, the intelligence community is telling people on committees that there's no military option to end it. Ground invasion would be Vietnam 2.0, but with worse casualty rates. I'm seeing wild estimates regarding taking and holding Tehran alone -- 600k to several million troops on the ground. The US only has 130k-250k combat troops. Nuking them would do more dollar-value damage to the rest of the world than it would do to Iran, due to total market panic.
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>>539573361
Invasion is suicide, you need to bring your own water when desalination/power plants powering them become unreliable. Have you seen what they consider a 'river' there?



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