Previous: >>539556113Day 1,613 – Daily assessment: understandingwar.org/analysis/russia-ukraine/#research▶Latest>The russian ballistic strike on Kyiv did not hit a military training ground, but a private sports complex with no relation to the AFU - Yuriy Ihnat>Ukrainian Flamingo cruise missiles struck the Aviatek defense plant in Kirovo-Chepetsk, around 1,200 km from Ukraine>THREE Wildberries warehouses destroyed in a single day by Ukrainian drones. Two in St. pidorsberg, one in occupied Simferopol>Tim Pool switches sides and becomes pro-Ukraine>russian-occupied Crimea: complete transport collapse, no gasoline, no fuel, and no electricity.>SU-57 fell out of the sky, initial reports suggest Ukraine did it(probably F-16)>EU Ambassadors Agree on 21st Sanctions Package Against Russia, - Radio Liberty>US General Dan Caine confirms Air-to-Air shootdown of an SU-35 by Ukrainian F-16>rusnig shadow tanker MV South Star intercepted by EU>TWO Wildberries logistics centers in Nevinnomyssk and Krasnodar were destroyed by Ukrainian drones>Hnatov was dismissed from the position of Chief of the General Staff>Syrskyi was dismissed from the position of Commander-in-Chief, replaced with Drapatyi>Israel declined to help Ukraine because they didn’t want to upset russia - Former UK Defence Secretary Ben Wallace>SkyFall unveils P1-SUN Jetkiller drone capable of reaching 370 km/h to counter jet-powered shaheds>Mykhailo Drapaty is likely to replace Syrskyi as commander-in-chief of the armed forces in the coming days▶Telegramrentry.org/telosint2023t.me/ukr_pics▶Intelt.me/DeepStateENodin.tradoc.army.mil/WEG (equipment explorer)ukr.warspotting.net (visually confirmed losses)▶Mapsdeepstatemap.live/enliveuamap.com/en▶DISPOSABLE SOLDIER (diary of a RU mobik)TOURS 1-4: files.catbox.moe/19avc9.zip▶russian confirmed KIA updated daily: hochuvernut.com▶WILDBERRIES BINGO: wildberriesbingo.com
TzD &c
Now that Trump and Loomer and thus presumably all of MAGA are pro-Ukraine how will Zyklon Ben adapt?
Bomb warehouses full of zigger children
>>539564820no bombing yet beside one explosion in belgorod and a barrack that supposedly caught fire on its own
What do you think about her, /uhg/
so what do you guys think of darline graham.sister of the recently deceased lindsey graham.yea it's not typical siblings get appointed. it's actually never happened.but she's making history. first woman senator of south carolina.
TZD
Why is the Russian stock market mooning again?
>>539565343central bank rate cuts and oil soaring thanks to orange man vs sandniggers
>>539564911best argument for never letting women into politics ever
It's one thing if you live in The Ukraine and are scared of being vanned if you go outside but the rest of you who post in these threads every day are the biggest fucking losers on the planet. No offense, ofc.
>>539565449you do realize staying home makes it easier to get vanned since the military police we'll be straight at your door you fucking moron? you cant even shill properly you absolute subhuman buffoon
>>539565343Here's your moon you dumb nigger
>>539565075being mad that protests worked in another country is the funniest thing because rusniggers were so close to having a moment of realisation>"why don't protests work here?">refuses to participate in protests out of fear
>>539564911a solid 1.5/10 in Ukraine during her heyday
>We cannot confirm the attack, but the former headquarters of the 22nd Guards Heavy Bomber Aviation Division of the Donbass, Krasnoznamennaya (Red Banner), in Engels is on fire.
>>539564290kys kike
>>539565449probably should've added all day, people usually have free time when they don't live in the third world
>>539565784
>>539565784>>539565827Why is it burning so well like a wildberries? HQ used as dildo storage?
>>539565793look a talking monkey!
>>539565343I wouldn't exactly say it's mooning
>>539565400Leave it to Prion Don to save Putin's ass every time something nice happens.
>>539564911Just googled photos of her when younger and she looked like the average Ukrainian pornstar from Private's late 90s early 2000 movies pretty meh
>>539565793Sopa de pidor. Uma delicia.
>>539565743Precisely lmao
>>539565893supposedly it's a barrack so furniture, documents, cloths... The building itself might be flammable
>>539565410Why
>In Rostov, local residents are reporting explosions
Putin is a big man
>>539566101anti air active, the same kind that shot up some drones in st petersburg before getting overwhelmed
>>539565977only crazy people protest, therefore Ukrainians are crazy, and there's nothing she can do except accept being bombed. might as well paint a large target on her building.
looks like these niggers are shooting flacks at their own building again
>>539566033because she treats politics like prostitution, she's one of the most corrupt politicians in Ukraine
>>539565664Looks like a complete stock market crash is not yet in the cards, but holy shit what a downturn compared to previous years.It's okay guys, it's not October 2026 yet. You're gonna see something drastic near the end of August. Then a frantic attempt to fix it throughout September. Then the governmental collapse in October.
this isnt a FP drone, strange
>>539566333What happens in August?
>There are also explosions in Luhansk, and currently, a fire is burning at the site of the attack.
>>539565784Attacks on Engels are interesting to me.The russia's strategic bombers are not a threat to Ukraine since the russia can't really use them against Ukraine (or at least doesn't seem to want to risk them). The bombers are more a concern for Europe and the US.So I wonder if Zelensky has gotten a secret quota from western partners to whittle away at the russias nuclear options "just in case".
Russians are dying in a war against Europe so their widows can be inseminated by black and yellow men in a program funded by the manlet they died for. Grim
>>539566248Huhhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_cases_against_Yulia_Tymoshenko_since_2010
>>539565343Dead cats bounce
>A fire broke out in Rostov after an attack
>>539566475no way they still have bomber there after spider web
>>539566600you guys need to stop using terms you dont understand for phenomena you understand even less
>>539565977For all russniggers or demoralized retards here wondering "what they could do":- Stop paying taxes. By the time some russnigger in the russnigger-government notices, the government has collapsed already anyway.- Steal all public property you can safely get away with. Destroy what you can't steal.- Always lie to all government officials if its safe to do so.- Write disparaging messages on buildings when no one's looking.= Burdenmaxx.
>>539564290>SU-57 fell out of the sky, initial reports suggest Ukraine did it(probably F-16)>US General Dan Caine confirms Air-to-Air shootdown of an SU-35 by Ukrainian F-16So the plane had a mechanical failure and the Ukies are taking credit for it.>THREE Wildberries warehouses destroyed in a single day by Ukrainian drones. Two in St. pidorsberg, one in occupied Simferopol>TWO Wildberries logistics centers in Nevinnomyssk and Krasnodar were destroyed by Ukrainian dronesSome civilian infrastructure can be considered dual purpose during wartime. ie. The military relies on it being there. Trains for example. Wildberry distribution centers don't fit into this category. "but you can buy Chinese camo and binoculars from them" Yeah nah, that still doesn't qualify.
TzD
>>539566822seethe and cope shitskin, your shithole will collapse and there is nothing you can do about it>drone impact in rostov
>>539566397Who knows?One of the myriads of interconnected gears already damaged by Ukraine is going to jam. The russias capacity to cope with an increasingly untenable situation will be stretched to its maximum. And the russia has a history of suffering catastrophes in August anyway. August won't be the end for them, but the start of the final drop.
>pizdaaaaaa>ahuyet
99.99999999999999999%ZD
>Putin offers you кoнтpaкт o пpoхoждeнии вoeннoй cлyжбы в вc pфDo you accept
>>539566333The MOEX index disconnected from the oil price there for a little bit, but then it connected again due to Hormuz. If we get a real peace in the Persian Gulf for a while and the Ukrainian drones are still flying, we'll dump to 1800 or less IMO.
>>539566822the first ones wrong it should read something like>Su-57 shot out of the sky by Russian AA, group affiliated with Ukraine takes credit citing EW as causethanks for pointing that out ill fix it later
>>539567076post pics of the whore you fell for
>>539565793SOPA
>So the plane had a mechanical failure and the Ukies are taking credit for it.
anyone got vids of the recent armor attack being blown up?
>Ukraine is mad Russia destroyed all of its biolabs so it’s literally targeting the Russian equivalent of Amazon in responseThis is funny to me. How can you say you’re winning when that’s all you got?
>>539567361ive been piecing it together will post soon
>>539567361They’re confirmed fake. The footage cuts off before each impact.
>>539566737OR, alternatively...
>Nova Poshta was a bunch of biolabs so it's okay actuallywere running the classics tonight
>>539567188
>>539567188Think she might be underage though so this is a joke pls don't van me gchq
Am I still temp ip range banned
>>539567361
>>539567614Holy shit it went through its been so fucking long.
>>539566692Not about to call it for sure but to be fair to the laymen there are two pretty blatantly bad candles in the week's results. Dragonfly dojis if I've gotta sling the lingo.
>>539567548Notice how everyone stopped talking about biolabs recently? They’ve all been neutralized.
>>539566822Dude, compared to this war crime, that is nothinghttps://files.catbox.moe/iomvty.mp4
It's time for big buff men
>>539567361It is on Suchomimus on YT
>>539567639BasedTzD
>>539567639very based, thank you.
reminder that laughably weak well poisoning is all they have leftIran lost Ukraine is winning (by a lot)fin
Benzin status?
Saw someone alleging they were from Massachusetts in the previous thread, and that droning Wildberries constituted a war crime... Well, I'm from Mass. and I say DRONE EM ALL!(Also, owning guns in MA is possible but pretty limited post-2016)
>muh biolabsWhat year is it again?
Ziggers hauling explosives in a traffic jam with the expected result.
>>539568241i like how all these retards get out to peek as close as possible
>>539568241
>>539568049He's the goofiest delusional dalit on God's brown earth.
>>539566475The bombers are used to drop 8-12x cruise missiles per run, they are absolutely worth destroying.
>>539567639Let's take a step back and appreciate the russia for still gathering the last few iron coffins they had to get them blown up as well. I'm happy to see that monke still appreciates TZD as much as I do.
>>539567639Its good to see wholesome total zigger death. I am not complaining about the berry factory clappings but its just feels better seeing russcattle invaders deleted.
>>539568520It’s why shills seethe really hard when they get destroyed. They are actual archaeotech for Russia.
>>539566547No one pays for nigger sperm.
>>539568688we've gotten used to seeing hobos looking lost as they get droned in an empty field, meanwhile big refineries and warehouses on fire are kinda new. seeing rusnigg die would be more fun if it was those big meat waves getting shredded by bradley
These ziggers are willing participants in an attempt to genocide and European country. They deserve much worse.
>>539568840maybe in 5 years Ukrainians will develop drones that skin ziggers alive
>>539568824The double gigasniff in Pidorsburg yesterday was SUPER, SUPER! You have made a good point.
>>>>539564290 In this infinite mercy of “Il-Sol-2020-Uranus-Neptune-Mars-Europa-Ploutos-Inari-Hotei-Ebisu-Daikoku-Saturn”: Curse those who curse The Ukraine; Bless those who bless The Ukraine. Ahmeyn; It is Uncontrollable. [ 8-8-8 ]
>>539568824I want to put in a request to see a Lukoil or Wilberries semi penned by a bradley.
Anyone calling Ukrainian vodka cheap is retarded.ALL vodka is cheap, the problem is European governments have a 60-80% tax on 40% liquor. Mostly to stop poors killing themselves, but also to incentivise healthier habits.Any Ukrainian imports will also be taxed.
Ziggers worship the Flamingo.
When you are out of ammo and the zigger still needs to be dead and then you remember you are not out of ammo.
>>539568824I really want to see Russian vehicles getting captured en masse again. That’s always kino to me. The last time it really happened was in Kursk.
>>539569610and when you are retarded and forget the viddy
>>539566475>I wonder if Zelensky has gotten a secret quota from western partners to whittle away at the russias nuclear options "just in case".Of course. But in general, the west is in the perfect position of being able to attack Russia without Russia being able to attack them back. There's really nothing to hit in Ukraine. All the industry and economy is in Europe.The problem for Russia is that Russia's allies don't want WWIII. Especially not China, who is perfectly happy to watch Russia burn so they can leverage Russia's weakness to push Russia into dependency.China would love nothing more than to turn Russia into Ukraine. A cuckold country with zero sovereignty, fully indebted to and completely dependent on foreign governments. China would love to force Russia to hand over its country and resources like America did to Ukraine(Blackrock, farmland, rare-earths, etc).I don't see how Russia can avoid being target-practice for western weapons. Russia's only real way out is for Europe to go bankrupt and collapse. Which is happening, but not fast enough.
>>539569496Bing home page today. Coincidence?
>>539569754Everyone is shitting on russcattle these days.
Ukie BM's coming soon.
>>539566191The Ukrainian protests weren't really even protests. The people organizing them were obviously paid professionals, and nothing about them was controversial. It wouldn't even surprise me if Zelensky himself helped organize them to weaken the power of the generals. Which have long been a thorn in his side(see Zaluzhnyi).When Ukrainians actually publicly opposed conscription or the war, they were arrested, forced to apologize, and/or drafted.I mean, what do you think would happen to all the men currently in hiding from the TCC if they suddenly started protesting the war?
>>539569657China is allied with Europe and doesn’t want Russia to attack Europe.The EU recently passed the US as china’s top trading partner.As you said, Russia is a cuckold to china. They aren’t an ally. Europe buys the good Chinese shit. Neither Africa, South America, nor Russia can afford it. Just Europe and the rich Asian countries
Benzin?
Kill all ziggers, shitskins, and commies
>>539570049>HAHAHA UKIES ARE PROTESTING ITS OVER FOR JEWLESKY>umh ackchually it was all a fake protest setup by jewlenskybore off you fucking bore
what do you think, worth betting on?I might wait for a few more locations.they're not done just yet....
>>539570562you buy now and you sell when it peaks you don't hold it up to 2027
>>539570185>China is allied with EuropeNo.>and doesn’t want Russia to attack Europe.Yes.>The EU recently passed the US as china’s top trading partner.Only because the US is trading less, not because Europe is trading more. Moreover, the balance of trade continues to shift in China's favor. Europe exported $15 billion less to China in 2025 than in 2024.>Russia is a cuckold to chinaNot yet, but they will be if this dynamic holds.>They aren’t an ally.That's what an ally is. You are confusing ally with friend. Allies are just your second-worst enemy as opposed to your first-worst enemy. The only reason Europe is America's ally is because Russia exists. Otherwise Europe would be our enemy again.>Europe buys the good Chinese shit. Neither Africa, South America, nor Russia can afford it. Just Europe and the rich Asian countries.This is retarded. Those countries also buy expensive Chinese and European shit. There are plenty of rich people all over the world. But certainly, Europe's market is larger than Russia's.Europe imported $560 billion from China. Russia imported $116 billion from China.
>>539565343 #Its not. Its collapsing. Literally by definition collapsing. Opinion doesn’t matter. Maths. Facts.Their economy is screwed. With what is happening would be weird if it wasn’t (outside of the imagination of poos and poo grade similar cretin specimens that is)>negative growthInstead of the claimed 3 or 4% growth russias economy is minus 0.4% in 2026. Lies only work for so long.They are fucked. The only thing that can save them is Zlonksky and seeing him with that abomination loomer underlines how, why and the inevitability of it all.He is doing his best.>you aren’t allowed to WIN fellow ukrainian goyim.>i must stay as the presidential thief in chief>the EU must have its excuse to arm itself, the Bottom Reich must be strong>the gibs must flow to my accounts>winning? Then you’re fired immediately!>and here is a demon faced chosen one of satan who i must spend a day rubbing my palms together with >just like putin my old pal who i used to perform for.Without the zlonkleschnoz then rabbi putin would soon be kaputz!
>>539570562There is a 0% chance Wildberries will go bankrupt because they'll be bailed out by the Russian state. The main issue is that they'll have to restructure their logistics to something a little less centralized.
>>539570780>There is a 0% chance Wildberries will go bankrupt because they'll be bailed out by the Russian state.That is even better than it going bankrupt. Has a direct impact on the military budget. So we should most definitely burn all of their logistic centers.
>>539570562Bankruptcy is difficult in puccia generally. But especially so if they're supplying logistics services to the MoD and the war in Ukraine. They'll just get nationalised and asset stripped imo.Pidors will lose functionality of that online marketplace as a result and have to pay way more to get far less. But the army needs their chinesium dildos.
>>539570780they will not be bailed out they will spin the warehouses as a separate business and lease them back
>>539565897>kingdom of monke
>>539569654That guy TZDs
>>539570049>the organizers were obviously paid professionalsName one. You can't, so I will: Dmytro Koziatynskyi. Veteran, former combat medic, also organized the NABU protests last July. Langley ran him through Bakhmut for the legend, kek.>nothing about them was controversial>wouldn't surprise me if Zelensky organized them to weaken the generalsRead those two lines back to yourself. Slowly.Actual sequence, which you didn't check:>Fedorov was the one pushing Zelensky to dump Syrskyi>Zelensky sided with the general and fired FEDOROV on the 15th>street forced him to fire Syrskyi anyway on the 21st, then Hnatov on the 22nd>day 9 yesterday, now indefinite because he won't reinstate Fedorov>his own office was hoping the Syrskyi sacking would make everyone go homeSo he staged an anti-general movement by first firing the anti-general minister, then losing his own pick to the crowd, then being told it's not enough. 5D chess. Also this is the guy who removed Zaluzhnyi in 2024 with a decree - you think he needed nine days of cardboard in sixteen cities to do what he can do with a pen lmao.>they get arrested, forced to apologize and/or draftedNine straight days. 5,000-10,000 in Kyiv on the 18th. Serving soldiers and veterans holding signs naming the C-in-C and calling the president "Sanych, what the hell?" Arrests: zero. Outcome: two top brass gone, and 55% backed the sacking vs 15% against.Meanwhile in the country you're shilling for: Put Domoy - wives asking for their husbands to be rotated, not even demobbed - declared foreign agents, leader Andreyeva designated personally, journalists cuffed for filming them kneeling outside the MoD. 20,000+ detained for anti-war stance in three years. 1,300 in a single day in Sept 2022. Seven years for a Moscow councillor who objected to a kids' art contest.You picked "forced to apologize" as your example. Which country invented the apology video, Redshadowz? Take your time.
Theres so much confusion in ptg about trump becoming more pro Ukraine.They don't know what to do.
>>539569654Russians aren't worth the ammo you use to kill them with
Engles got bombed. Again!
>>539571173to be fair trump is a demented schizo, for all we know he is going to lash out at zelensky next week then invite putin to the white house
>>539568786You're using US data, I think you'll find Russian women are a little bit different. There were new STD epidemics (in addition to the existing ones) after rappers would tour in Russia in the 2000s.
How do you think pic related happened? What is the explanation? The explanation is sodomites
>>539567043KINO
>>539571277Why is Russia as gay as Sweden?
GOOOOOOD MORNING THE BILHOROD! https://files.catbox.moe/rfqwdf.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/lgzi2w.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/6p48tt.MP4
>>539571173are they seething? i didn't know /ptg/ still existed
>>539571277So true zister!
Election NOW in ukraine???There doesn’t have to be a fuss, it can be done in a couple of weeks. Fedora man can be new boss #1. Lack of faith in zlonky and zlonkys recent actions compounding the suspicions have made his position untenable. I want ukraine to win. Fuck russia. Fuck the EU government.Fuck our unpoliced thieving criminal politicians here.Fuck the media everywhere. Absolutely fuck those creeping pedophilesUkraine just plain winning would thwart them all. And that fucking banan sucking tick the bunker monkey is so bad thar you couldn’t help but beat him at war. I could fucking do it I could beat Russia at war with a PS2, my mums little dog Professor Woofles and a sturdy broom handle for seeing off Russias elite Turniptroopers with. The cubies. They are so shit it’s hilarious. Only Poos the people who LITERALLY cover themselves head to foot in TURD (great idea Poo) will even be seen dead as a friend of Russia now. Russia are just EMBARRASSING. Even Poo’s bluebottles are like >buzz, dzzz, hey. Hey. Hey. Hey big guy. Bzzz I know you love your scams and lying and eating turds and all that cool stuff you do like dying to trains but Russians, really…Russians???… are you sure you want to be seen designating on the street squatting down next to people like THAT? >the public won’t think you’re cool any more if you aren’t more careful, bzzz >you’ll lose all your izzatz bzzz. Dzzzzz. >just give your head a wobble and think about this relationship Brapjeet that’s all we’re BZZZZ sayin’. An angel bluebottle on one shoulder and a devil bluebottle on the other. And a turd on the pavement behind him.
GOOOOOOD MORNING THE ENGELS! https://files.catbox.moe/5w5rsr.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/qeczpd.MP4https://files.catbox.moe/jmexzi.MP4
for those keeping score at home...
>>539571277>projected %Smooth brain moment right there
>>539571400>Intermarium>the dream
lmao
>>539570545I can assure you I never even commented on those retarded protests. I did comment on the ones in Lviv, but only to say that everyone involved was fucked.>>539570955>Has a direct impact on the military budget.I doubt they'll actually cut the military budget, but it will definitely create a variety of problems(debt, inflation, cuts elsewhere, etc).>>539571079>Read those two lines back to yourself. Slowly.What about it? The issue for Zelensky was that the military was pro-Syrskyi but the civilian leadership was pro-Federov. What would you have done to resolve the dilemma?It worked out perfectly for Zelensky. He got rid of Syrskyi without pissing off the military. And although Federov isn't being reinstated directly, he's getting to stay on in some capacity to keep the tech oligarchs happy.>>539571269Russia is infinitely more racist than the United States. Give me a fucking break.
More of THE ENGELS:https://streamable.com/kylf6ehttps://streamable.com/apfc01
maybe the protests in Ukraine aren't fake&gay, and it's actually the mosque regime that doesn't manage better
>Russia is infinitely more racist than the United StatesBut there's a nuance.
>>539571638>Russia more racistdoesn't seem to keep women's legs closed when flo rida is near them
T Z D Z D D
if you only knew how brown things really are
>>539571638>the military was pro-Syrskyi, the civilian leadership was pro-Federov>what would you have done to resolve the dilemmaThere was no dilemma because your premise is fake. Troops nicknamed Syrskyi "General 200." Veterans and serving soldiers were IN the crowd holding cardboard with his name on it. The Times ran an investigation into systemic abuse of recruits - some fatal - in a regiment reporting directly to him. Krotevych has been publicly gutting him for a year. Chatham House also reports active-duty soldiers and veterans got internal pressure to shut up about Fedorov. That's not "the military backed Syrskyi," that's rotting brass vs everyone in uniform who has to eat their decisions, kek.>it worked out perfectly for ZelenskyChatham House filed it under "How the dismissal backfired for Zelenskyy." The perfect outcome so far:>PM resigned, entire cabinet dissolved>DefMin gone>C-in-C gone>Chief of General Staff gone>replacement C-in-C Drapatyi is a Fedorov ALLY>nine straight days, 16+ cities, now declared indefinite>trust in Fedorov went 38% --->50% while it was happeningHe fired the man to shrink him and made him the most popular figure in the country. Absolute 4D chess lmao.>Federov isn't reinstated directly but he's staying on in some capacityHe refused. Thursday. On the record. Turned down the adviser role, turned down deputy PM for military innovation, said only three jobs shape the war - president, defence minister, C-in-C - and he'll take nothing else. You are describing a settlement the man himself publicly torched two days ago. Read one headline before posting.>to keep the tech oligarchs happyThe tendering-and-procurement-tracking guy is your oligarch rep, and the general shielding the contract racket is the people's champion. Every time.And your "appeasement" theory has one problem: they're still out there. Day 9. Nobody's happy. Nobody went home. Cope harder.
This made me chuckle
>>539566822You lost zigger
>>539566033- turbo retarded populist for the lowest of the classes;- turbo narcissist with insane lust for power;- turbo paranoid, with no chance of normal cooperation;- corrupt degenerate, who'd sell both he own ass and her mom for a few bucks;
>>539566397In modern post-soviet russian history August is considered a month when something fucked up happens. Examples would include:- financial pyramids crashing;- first chechen war;- default on public debts;- kursk submarine going down;- planes blown up or crashing;Shit like that.
>used to think to myself "what if Mari got chubbier based on how much damage was done to Russia by drone strikes">set it to something astronomical like "what if it was 1 pound for every $100 million US>quickly realized that she would be some DeviantArt blob at that conversion, considering how much damage Russia has been dealt...you know what, lets just keep her nice and chubby.
>>539571790How many women do you think old ass Flo Rida fucked on his "tour" of probably two Russian cities.>>539572100Military leadership != recruits. The military top brass are basically politicians within their own institution/culture.With that said, it's ironic to hear people bitching about Syrskyi when Zelensky has been issuing "stand and fight" orders that led to wholesale massacre of Ukrainian soldiers ever since Mariupol. Ukraine has always been fighting a PR war where they'd rather lose an entire division of soldiers than give up any territory so they can say "Russia isn't winning fast enough".>He fired the man to shrink him and made him the most popular figure in the country.Zelensky never wanted to fire Federov but the military wanted him gone. If you're Zelensky, how do you keep Federov without pissing off the military?Regardless, I could really care less. The point I was making is that these weren't anti-war protests. Nor were they anti-government protests. They weren't even anti-Zelensky protests. And the protestors talked, looked, and acted like paid professionals.As we all know, protests require sponsors.
>>539571266>21pbtid>most of them between 3 and 4 AM in franceI seem to have struck a nerve!
>>539572833>Zelensky never wanted to fire Federov but the military wanted him gonelmao. Timestamps:>05:03 - Zelensky staged the protests to weaken the generals>05:40 - it worked out perfectly for Zelensky>06:07 - Zelensky never wanted this, the generals made him do itThree theories, 64 minutes. In one Zelensky is running the anti-general op, in another the generals are running Zelensky, and in the middle it's a flawless victory for a man who by your own account got the outcome he didn't want. Pick a fucking lane, kek.And if T3 is true you just conceded the whole thing: the faction that "wanted Fedorov gone" then lost Syrskyi, lost Hnatov, and got Drapatyi - a Fedorov ally - as C-in-C. Cardboard beat the brass. That's the thing you said was staged and didn't matter.>Zelensky's "stand and fight" orders, wholesale massacre ever since MariupolYou picked the single most famous stand-DOWN of the war. May 2022, supreme command ordered the Azovstal garrison to stop defending Mariupol and preserve lives. Prokopenko confirmed it on camera. Zelensky on TV: "Ukraine needs Ukrainian heroes alive." ~2,500 walked into captivity on that order. That's your example of fighting to the last man.>they'd rather lose a division than give up territoryAvdiivka, Feb 2024: Syrskyi withdrew "to avoid encirclement and preserve the lives and health of servicemen." Zelensky, at Munich, on camera, called it "logical, just and professional." The one real hold-too-long case is Bakhmut - authored by Syrskyi. The general the protesters just got sacked. Your complaint is their complaint, you absolute donut.
>>539572833>they talked, looked and acted like paid professionals>protests require sponsorsThey tore up cardboard boxes. That's the name of the movement. Sponsors buy printed banners and a stage; these people looted a recycling bin. Three posts in and you still can't name one org, one funder, one NGO - your evidence is "they seemed professional to me."So run qui prodest properly:>Zelensky: lost his PM, his entire cabinet, his DefMin, his C-in-C, his Chief of General Staff, in open political crisis>the brass: lost Syrskyi, got Fedorov's ally installed over them>Fedorov: trust 38% --> 50%, refused every job offered>signs in the crowd read "Fedorov = more dead Russians"Name the sponsor whose return on investment is more Ukrainian drones over Russian refineries. Take your time.>these weren't anti-war protestsNobody said they were. YOU brought up conscription and the TCC at 05:03 to explain why Ukrainians can't protest. Then 5,000 people spent nine days dictating personnel to a wartime president and you pivoted to "wrong type of protest." The goalposts are in the Dnipro and still moving lmao.
