what's it called when you grew up right wing, slid far to the far left due to being thrust into poverty, and give up after seeing how unhinged and hopeless everything is. I was an open and true believer in marxist ideals for a few years and was going to get involved in my local DSA but after really seeing how the masses are just enraged sadomasochistic cattle I lost all hope. I dont even really consider myself marxist anymore, it really does just seem totally hopeless.
>>539564488welcome to the replace politicians and CEOs with ai party
>>539564488same here anon
>>539564488Have you considered learning how to make communist balloon animals for children?
>>539564488>slid far to the far left due to being thrust into povertyIt's called being a gullible and selfish retard
>>539564488Why do the Orthodox people wear that hijab. Get it off. Slavic women have to show their hair, it is the Slavic tradition
>>539564488its called being a dumb poor goycattle, didnt matter what your faggy “political orientation” was
>>539564488> I was an open and true believer in marxist ideals for a few years and was going to get involved in my local DSASo is this just lefty/pol/ at this point? Like fucking hell….
It’s called “bourgeois cynicism” and the reason is is called “bourgeois” is because it is a world inherited from them that basically justifies their power: they turn the world into shit and humans into atoms and this in turn is taken as how the world is by default and therefore justifies it as their ideology.The Threepenny Opera (a communist musical where the character Mac the Knife comes from, a supreme capitalist) actually critiques it and shows this worldview in some songshttps://youtu.be/7XTbyb7kSrIhttps://youtu.be/keXB9DuhaH0
>>539564488The answer is National Socialism but you're too much of a faggot to commit to it
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>>539564488id say just hang in there. the bourgeois state and media have a strong grip on the conciousness of the masses, but there will be a moment when the contradictions become too obvious for people to ignore. you do still need to put in a lot of work though, as not only does the production of false conciousness need to weaken, but you also need to give the masses a light at the end of the tunnel, class consciousness.so again, hang in there. things will get better eventually.
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>>539564488YWNBAW
>>539565473Im just going to be real with you I will always see race. Class is irrelevant to me. You guys hinge so much on a mass awakening so I want to be honest with you. There are plenty more like me. I would see you as a beaner first and foremost and nothing more. You aren't my brother because you are poor, if anything you would have other beaners take care of you/watch out for you because you are a beaner and poor. It comes down to your ethnic pride and camaraderie. You want to help the people that look like you get a leg up on the people that dont look like you who “oppress” you. People that say the same things you do are always the same people who say things like “poor white trash” or make fun of southerners etc so your whole class consciousness is a fabrication. You immediately default to defining by race and since they are White its okay to mock and belittle them.
>>539565421Anotherhttps://youtu.be/PjXkCjniutcThis may help you to realize that Trump is just like Mack the Knifehttps://youtu.be/8euLM67QJG4Also join the DSA. In that picture are two DSA groups I recommend you look up online, they might restore your hope
>>539565852No
>>539565508im sure economic decline in cuba is because of rent control and not because the US has systematically isolated them
>>539564488whys this stupid girls name again? she has extremely warped and bizarre views of the ussr.
>>539565385she's a muslim convert
>>539565937Cuba still has amiable relations with the second largest economy in the world, largest if you are a PPP coper. Blaming US sanctions for Cuba, Venezuela, etc. being shitholes is pure delusion.
>>539564488You was raised a useful idiot
>>539565767This the same race that sent you into WWi? When communists opposed it and white feathers and protocol fascists supported it and said millions of Germans must die for bankers? Hitler blamed communists for breaking down the war, which they did in both Germany and Russia. The ruling class will never see you as their family and never have in history. You are a Helot who sees Spartans are you brothers when 1200 Helots fought and died at Thermopylae and only the 300 Spartans were recognized
>>539566215Nice cope but in your analagy, you are siding with the Persians.
>>539564488You're a fool and a coward to presume youmust work within the legal framework to make change, doesn't matter if you're a retard commie or not
>>539566260Which the Spartans in fact did when they fought Athens
>>539564488It's called a successful demoralization campaign.
>>539565508>60 year long worldwide trade embargo enforced by a hostile neighbor superpower>"cuba is shit cause it's communist!!!!"retard
>>539564488Your imagination, mostly. Propaganda works as does “lie of the week”.
>>539564488>grew up right wing>slid far to the far left This isn't possible.Unless you think some milquetoast neo con zionist is right wing. >DSAThe ultimate champagne socialist goy tool for the Jewish overlords.
>>539566362It’s entirely possible to defend the system and think success is based on merit when you’re successful and that poverty is something poor people deserve. Then to do a double take when you experience it.
>>539566302That has little to do with the analogy though. You are a traitor to your people and should be impaled on a spike
>>539566435You are useful idiot. The Spartans literally culled Helots every year and slaughtered them for funsies and you consider disloyalty to them being “a traitor to your people”. All you do and dream about is having the honor of fellatio on Trump and Elon
>>539566318>worldwide trade embargo>actually had multiple major trading partners in the latin sphere.Yeah, it was the communism.
>>539566502Why would I fellate MIGA?You really aren't good at this if you don't even know what people here believe, troon.
>>539564488Retard faggot, maybe. Also kys
>>539566215>the ruling class will never see you as familyMy issue is that people like you say that its class but then will at the same time will turn and support BLM/Black Pride, Brown Pride or other race based ideologies. If we want to be as accurate as possible its a little of both of what we say. It is race and class or class and race but they both play a part. I would rather be around people that look like me, and sure they will commit crimes or start wars etc but they come from the same ethnic framework I do. A shared view on the world based off a collective history even.
>>539564488If you fit in anywhere on the political spectrum you are fucking spooked.
>>539566565Because you say if the Helots made a common cause with the slaves of the Persians and rebelled instead of serving Spartans and dying for them, they would be disloyal. That is obviously the same as saying Germans should be loyal to the Kaiser and white Americans should be loyal to Trump and Elon.
>>539566152Companies that deal with Cuba get boycotted by the US Unless it's a critical import that the US needs, China wil not risk losing the zogmericam market.
>>539566645China currently deals with Cuba. Its already doing it. You are an ignorant fool who pulled that straight out of your ass.
>>539566587This is like saying the working class can’t support Palestine because that’s race. The fact is that capitalism victimizes and fucks over a lot of people. Class struggle is impossible without unity, the idea that capitalism still has the juice to give selectively to the white working class by fucking over the others died with Trump
>>539566429All the commies I know live in the whitest neighbourhood they can afford while screeching online about dem po brown and black people. They can't make it without our (superior) minds/help. Interesting that commies.. especially DSA.. see brown people as a servant slave retard class below them. I'm NS as F, and I just want to be left alone with my own people. Want the same for brown people. Do whatever you want in your own country. Hardcore muslim? Whatever. DSA/commies want the world to bend to their ideals. Fucking McDonalds goyslop for everyone. Not sure if they are just plain evil or retards.
>>539566685They’re one of the only countries that does and they do so for ideological reasons, solidarity in communism. They certainly don’t gain anything from the relationship
>>539566637>common cause with the slaves of the PersiansThats a delusional fantasy. What you are doing is siding with the Persians who will gladly enslave you. You are a vile traitor who should be flayed alive.
>>539566724Better go with the multibillionaires who understand your situation much better
>>5395644882 0 0 % D E M O R A L I Z E D
>>539566704The thing is class is a lie. It's a spook. It's not real. It is peddled to people like you because it paralyizes you from finding a real solution to your problems. It gives you a nebulous, invincible foe, and that allows you to never try to fix anything because you spend your time attempting to organize on the base of something that is not real. Every moment you spend on class is a moment you spend on behalf of your enemies.
>>539566749No lol. The slaves of the Persians. The slaves among the Persians with your worldview of course will side with their masters and see loyalty to them as paramount. The point is a common cause with the slaves who realize they have more in common with the Helots than either does with their masters >but you as Helot need to kill them and protect your Spartan masters or else…you’ll be a slave!As opposed to what you already are?
>>539564488I fell for Trump's lies. I wanted to believe trump was different. Now I am kind of politically homeless. I feel spiteful and jaded and I want to see him and maga fail even if I go down with them.
>>539566873>the thing is slavery is a lie, it’s a spook. You are just imaging you are slaves and the ruling class has power
>>539564488>grows up "right wing">copes and seethes about parental incompetence by begging government to become daddy>gives up because the government won't gape his assholeYou were molested.
>>539566912Power is real. Class isn't.
>>539566782Communists also have the same elite class. Even smaller than capitalist system.I'm not for either. Both have a class struggle. NS doesn't have such a strong dynamic. We are unequal. And life is struggle. But we are one. With a unified goal/system.
>>539566814how are you not supposed to get demoralized in the american political system where simultaneously nothing moves and everything continues getting worse
>>539566724theyre literally useful idiotsthey soften things up for the actual violent gommies, who come in after theyve broken the system beyond repair.they tried to do the same thing to weimar germany, but hitler hijacked it for himself
>>539566957You are supposed to be demoralised as white people. No freedom of association. No in group.No race.No future.But it's ok.. preferred.. funded by your money.. for every other group.
>>539566981This. Useful idiots.They will be the first of the useless bourgeoise to be eliminated as soon as the revolution has established itself.
>>539566950>dude slavery is NOT real, stop trying to make a common cause with other slaves! Only the slave owners are allowed to make a common cause!!!!!!
>>539567088Reminds me of Judaism.>Zionists>Communists>Secular goysThe big boss is the zionist.Communism is just a competing enslaver for goyim.Both use secular "I'm culturally jewish, non practicing Jews" as cannon fodder.
>>539566951You are as retarded as the communists. Class struggle comes from inherent in group preference, fundamental human nature. The whole history is just class struggle and ethnic struggle. And you cannot eliminate these, no matter what experiments you run
>>539566957plenty of things moving rnmore than probably in the last century or more. fortune favors the bold. if only because everyone else just stayed tf home and didnt do shit>>539567088yea theyre giga-kulaks lol. even i would purge them, and i think authoritarianism sucks.for ex, you wouldnt leave a minefield active, then just tell ppl not to go over there ever again. youd de-mine the place so that no one gets blown up.
>>539567156>can't argue the merits>tries to pivot to slavery.Expected. You can, and should, make common cause with your fellow man. Making common cause with him is how things get better. Class is simply not a valid organizing principal, and organizing on class goes no where. You cannot organize on something that is not real. Your enemies know this, so they feed you class.
>>539564488you just be antisemitic and hate capitalism. you don’t need any of that autistic theory bullshit.
>>539567259Hierarchy will not be removed, but the concept of "class" will be. You can either serve your nation and its people or be cast aside
>>539567259There will always be better, wealthier, smarter people. This is inherent to NS.As a society, we all work together.The brick layer is needed as much as the engineer. There is honour in working with your hands and building something. The excessive greed/consumerism is not a NS item. Being rich isn't and wasn't something great. If you made too much, you were suspect for exploiting the system/your fellow man. You can make money, but excessive hoarding while your employees starve, etc was a crime.
>>539564488We are living in spiritually depraved times. Using Left and Right doesnt make sense when theyre both coopted by Satan.
>>539565463You don't even know what that is. Larper
>>539567530>we all work togetherWhat's to prevent your celebrated elites in national socialism from sending people to die in another stupid war of conquest like Hitler did?And after Hitler was destroyed, it was the industrial elites after the fact, like krupp, bmw, bayer, solvay, Bosch, Porsche, Hugo boss, schleyer and other assorted pricks.The former military was pressed into serving the US and the jews to suppress its own people, for the US and for the jews.While the people starved in the streets and were only saved due to the Marshall Plan, not out of any effort on part of the domestic elite.
>>539567391class exists so long as hierarchy exists
>>539564488Don't believe in that goy nonsense of looping.
>>539564488marx only makes sense as a confucian
>>539565508hmm rent control or boomer housing inflation making housing unaffordable
