Can high iq manual labor fags please expline to me why AI wont be able to do this until 1 day after ur retirement in 2050?See i have a masters in STEM but I get really intellectually intimidated whenever I drive my a bunch fo Mexican doing manual labor..
>>539568172i suppose while obtaining your 'masters in STEM', you were also intellectually intimidated when you tried to write your thesis using complete, coherent sentences. Perhaps you had a Mexican keyboard.
>>539568172describe one tool you use in your career which is not a digital software or web-connected device
>>539568172mexicans are bad at it already, it's why all the new house builds are trash. as a service electrician, i stay busy, but also disappointed in modern society. ai isnt going to be able to intelligently find wiring faults the way a human can do it. ai isnt going to make robots cheap enough to replace human labor when jews can import third worlders for 5 dollars an hour. what is the incentive for them to make such an investment? even if there are robots, they will need men to fix the robots. i'm one of them. i guess what i'm saying is, mass deportation now. and gas all kikes
>>539568369Why should I pay attention to grammar on 4chan?
Mexicans are not good at doing things that require any thought that is why they used to only be used for hanging drywall but even then they needed whitey there to make sure they didn't fuck it up
>>539568172I've never seen a computer that can pull a calf in breach, nor one that can perform an emergency bovine post-mortem cesarian section>t. 110 IQ highschool dropout
>>539568380Soldering station, VNA, spectrum analyzer, mutli-meter, singal generators, oscilloscope, multi meters... I can keep going but those tools arent nearly as important as the design software i use though. U think cuz its web connected its useless? Get a grip
>>539568439because you're showing the brownness of your genes, you mid-witted, intellectually stunted nigger-brain.
>>539568395Bro im an elevtical engineer, finding wire faults isnt as complicated as u make it out to be. Call me when u are deisning rf front ends and 28 layer digital PCBs
>>539568172The LLM bubble is just that, a bubble. An overhyped scam designed entirely to profit Nvidia and its partners. All the moves to try to get you to use the paid for LLMs are just attempts to try to prop up the bubble by getting some money back since up to this point LLMs have been a financial disaster, turning billions of dollars into millions.
>>539568494Only beacuse it doesnt have hands, which it will get soon. I could perform that operation with chatgtp. As a matter of fact i was sick for 1.5 years cuz doctors kept misdiagnosing me and chat saved my life
>>539568380everything except my computer you fool
>>539568569If it fails u mamual laborders will lose ur jobs also, I dont think u understand the situation. We gambl3d all on it. Even if we didn society will fail cuz if we stop intellectually progressing then the majority of the world will die off very quickly and painfully
>>5395681721. Robots that need to get into position have a LOT of moving parts, and moving parts wear quickly2. You will still need humans closeby to fix these robots because they break all the fucking time3. Accurately detecting a nail is a computer vision problem and computer vision requires a fuckton of edge-case handling, meaning that the best you can hope for is learning from the mistakes it does make. Adding other sensors like LIDARS and high-frequency radars compounds the complexity even more 4. When AI is involved, see (3)5. Because Jeets can not do all that, except perhaps the most basic repairs, we will have to spend a decade or two undoing the competency-crisis by hiring and training locals. Locals learn much faster, and are more competent, than Jeets but it will take some time to pry the Jeets from the grubby hands of Jewish CEO's and train up the new generations.
>>539568172By 2050 we should have 3d printed housing that can be put together like legos.
>>539568531youre fine. if anything you dabble in manual labor too then. what the fuck are you whining about?
>>539568172it's cheaper to pay normies minimum wage to destroy their bodies. We have the technology to completely automate farm work, but it's cheaper to pay a spic $2 an hour
>>5395686821. It will take less energy for a humanoid robot to get in tha toostion than a human and humanoid are around the corner2. If AI takes the engineering jobs then who do u think will be doing that?3. Lidar isnt that exspesive anymore. Also training newbies isnt a bunch of edge case handling and learning curves?4. U think cuz elon had jeets controlling robots 1 year ago that means that's its never going to work? Tesla isnt known for making good robots, yet
>>539568716Im whining about how stupid it is to think operating those tools is harder for AI than working with deisgn software. It can code and that about it, it cant do other forms of engineering, i saves me 95 percent of my time by fetching data but no model can deisng anything useful from scratch that isnt software
>>539568623No, you'd kill the calf in both situations.You don't have time to consult your LLM in a post-mortem cesarian, you get 10-20 seconds before the calf is dead after the mother dies in that time you need to cut in, NOT cut the calf, pull it out and get it breathing. In both situations you're going to wind up covered in shit too, the calf in breach? you can't really explain that, you've got to know the feel of right and wrong when you're elbow to shoulder deep inside bovine pussy while the mother is busy pissing and shitting on you, possibly trying to kick your skull in too.
>>539568172You won’t be replaced by a robot any time soon, you will be replaced by Mexicans or former white collar workers who lost their jobs because of AI
>>539569071youre retarded
>>539568804Thats actually a very good arugment
>>539569211obsolete white collars are not replacing any blue collar
>>539569211But you goys are incapable of STEM, u have no prominent scientists or engineers
>>539569078Ur going to be elbow deep in bovine lussy when all of us are collecting UBI, congrats
>>539569322Cuz we still have jobs we can easily take ur jobs. We are even stronger than u cuz we can afford(more like have time and energy kek) to go to the gym and buy quality food
>>539569443you literally eat shit ranjesh, no one is going to let you near the livestock either.
>>539569326nigga STEM doesnt mean shit when the most populated state in the nation lets you get in without a fucking SAT
>>539568369Not an argument but Fucking kek
>>539568172>You’ve never seen an architects actual drawings>you’ve never seen the specifications for an actual job>you’ve never seen the local code compliance books>you’ve never applied for a permit >you’ve never had to schedule inspections >you’ve never been a supervisor >etcEach one of these steps is so far from automation, blocked by bureaucracy and can leave you asking “what where they thinking?” So fast, even supercomputers don’t know how to fix it
>>539568172>Can high iq manual labor fags please expline to me why AI wont be able to do this until 1 day after ur retirement in 2050?It doesn't even matter if it can't. If the future pans out how they want it to and tradie jobs are the only jobs left then that market will be flooded and suddenly they're working for pennies.
>>539569394 >>539569326 >>539569071 >>539569011 >>539568674 please do the needful and go back to india>>539568623 >>539568564 >>539568531 >>539568439 >>539568172
>>539568439To communicate? I can't figure out what your fucking gibberish means.
>>539568395People really don't know the frightening bad wiring that lurks in their homes. They don't even know that almost every house has leaking plumbing in the walls. Everything is made like shit now. Thoroughly unimpressed with humanity.
>>539569078when SHTF anons like this are the ones you wanna befriend
>>539568564Now that is something that will actually be replaced by ai and robotics easily. Nobody cares about stamped breadboards. You're just coping because the sparky's will actually have a job and you won't.
>>539568674>cool, huh?
>>539568172Dexterity, speed, logic, and spatial awareness coordinated in the degree that humans currently have, is not anywhere near happening anytime soon.t. 127IQ laborchad
>>539569637oh look, my alma materthe issue isn't at UCLA or Berkeley. there you have people with 4.3 GPAs and perfect SATs being turned down. the problem is happening at cal states and the lower half of UCs like Merced. we need to force teach the concept of IQ to everyone from kinder to senior year of high school. then we need to liberalize education and get rid of any education standards. you dont actually help anyone who is limited by their IQ with those standards and you prevent trannys from injecting their demon doctrines into the minds of young kids at public schools by being elected to school boards or the California department of education. if you struggle with multiplication you have no business at a university or especially a research university. we are just wasting time and money at that point. we'd be better off just giving that kid the money and telling him to find a way
>>539570309>is not anywhere near happening anytime soon.why not?
>>539568172Robots will never be affordable for manufacturing or construction in your lifetime, nor will it ever be efficient enough to replace a human.
>>539570397battery not big enough and data transmission not fast enough and not enough data centers to think for a bunch of near-human performing automatons
> high iq manual labor
My IQ is 148 and I am dangerously invested in AI hardware.Robots are coming. It's the next consumer credit expansion. 10 years from now every middle class home will have a loan on a 15,000 dollar housebot, robots to mow the grass, robots to bring you your drink and do manual labor. Tasks no one wants to do like moving corpses in hospitals and crime scenes will be done by robots. Business model robots will cost 30,000, which will be cheaper than the entry level wage of 25 dollars in 2026 for mcdonald's positions. Businesses which hire 10 people will have 1-2 managing the robots.The way to survive this is to learn autocad, 3d printing, get your AI to do quickbooks for you, maybe even invest in your own fleet of delivery drones. Your own business, with your own business model robot. Every man a king as long as he's got enough credit to run his business. Government will give you 1000 dollar tax credits for your environmentally friendly robot.Boomers will replace the grandkids that were never born because they didn't help their kids during their fertile years so they never got married with grandkidbots.They'll try to stop it, but streamers will sell "pussy upgrades" and allow you to use their TM'd personality uploaded into your robot that you can fuck anytime you want. The best Etsy sellers will be dealing fake pussies that feel real.Everything AI will be robots will be the economy.The idea you can just "nail real good" or "code real good" will be a thing of the past as an aging caste of 60yo gen xers maintain the codebase until they retire or die off.The robotics industry will be worth trillions.
>>539569443Those blue collar boys are relishing the day they can bulldoze you cubicle rats into the offal pits.
>>539569637I highly doubt they are putting any one deficient in math in engineering programs
>>539569752AI can easily do all of this and better.
>>539568172It will probably be longer than 2050 until robots could do my job but I wish it was sooner because around that same time is when we finally get robowaifus. All I want is a fluffy dogmilf bot to hold me against her huge warm breasts and call me a good boy. Unfortunately all the robots you see right now lack any real self-awareness. Every one is either teleoperated or executing pre-programmed routines. It's sad to think my waifu will be operated by some underage pajeet but that's the way things are headed.
>>539570224>source: my insecurities
>>539570608Keep telling urself that kek
>>539569011tesla had to cut down on over automation, they literally fucked up their gigafactory bs. this happened aorund 5 years ago though
>>539570943Everyone needs a fantasy world to escape to
>>539568172Don't need high IQ to drive nails framers and painters can btfo. There are more specialized forms of manual labor. If 2050 is your deadline it's much too short. The problem doesn't lie in the ability but rather the implementation. By 2050 I can see new construction projects built for automated workers. Even if it's the teething era of such technology consideration has to be made for logistics that hasn't been considered for a fully automated workforce. How do you get the RX59 mk. 2 pipefitter from point A to point B? Do you have to have access elevators in the factory? Do you need two minimum wagies have to carry it up 3 flights of stairs and rig it onto a chainfall to access the flange that it is making up? The technology WILL exist to DO the wor, in a lot of ways it already does. Industrial environments have had 200+ years of development for human interface and you're suggesting in 2 decades we will bridge the logistics gaps? Not really feasible.
>>539571108some guy already nigger rigged claude into a PCB design tool https://tinycomputers.io/posts/redesigning-a-pcb-with-claude-code-and-open-source-eda-part-1.html
>>539568172AI can hammer a nail. It could hammer a nailing pattern. It could hold pieces of wood up or together to hammer a nail. But like a Mexican, it will never understand why. So when it makes a mistake, it won't understand that is has, or why it's a mistake, it won't understand how to fix it, how do it correctly next time, or how to improve the process in the future. The people programming it won't understand, because they haven't done it, and they haven't done it for 20 years to become a master carpenter. When a master carpenter starts programming AI to replace himself, or when AI can teach itself 100x better on its own than the jeet programming it can, then it might. Construction is a complex series of interconnected systems in the real, practical, imperfect, concrete world, and that's just not something that LLMs or Mexicans are good at and they may never be.
"AI Safety" actually means making AI safe for Jews. They want government control of AI, but they don't mention that they want to control the government which controls the AI. AI Safety is worse than Communism: it's a plot to give total control to Jews. They would control the world via a monopoly on AI intelligence. This is alarming because non-Jews are "goyim" or "amalek" depending on whether or not the non-Jew is aware of what is going on. If not stopped, the AI would be used to treat people everywhere like Palantir treated the Palestinians: identifying and slaughtering percieved enemies without care for bystanders, and totally dispossessing the survivors. I for one don't want to be a slave with no hope of escape, ruled by an AI system that hates me because of my race. I oppose AI Safety
>>539571197Bro construction isnt that complicated dude. Just cuz u have special terminology and names doesnt make it complicated. Also how are we not able to bridge the construction gap in 20 years but can bridge complex engineering and stem gaps? That makes 0 sence. It would omly make sence to someone who's ego is hurt and concerned himself engineering is easier than manual albor
>>539571150silence jeet
>>539571457Thats a horrible layout lmao. Also the most simple circuit u can possibly make
>>539568172LLMs are just fancy lossless compression. AI may exist one day, but this isn't it.
>>539571036Armchair construction
>>539568172>Can high iq manual labor fags please expline to me why AI wont be able to do this until 1 day after ur retirement in 2050?What I do requires an articulate machine.What you do requires a computer program.A computer program you helped train and build by making programs to do most of your job for you.You turned your job into being able to click Run Program.All that needed to happen was for the program to be programmed to be able to run itself.Please, ask Grok to repair a telehandler. Not HOW to repair it. To actually repair it.
>>539571490>Bro construction isnt that complicated dude.i probably make double what you do because it is, then again, i do custom builds for rich people and they are the source of complications so whatever
>>539571552>Thats a horrible layout lmao. Also the most simple circuit u can possibly makeAgreed. Layout isnt right.
>>539571490Tell me you've never worked in or around an industrial environment in your life without telling me. I already ceded that we might start seeing factories and industrial site begin construction with automation in mind. My argument is that the legacy industrial sites aren't set up for robotic logistics. Just because something has been proven to be automatable does not mean the logistics are in place to implement the technology into legacy systems. That said, I'm safe from all of this mess because I have electronics and electromechanical experience so I'll be the one fixing your automations and installing them. It's not a pride thing I'm speaking from experience but was trying to not make an appeal to authority. What I do could also be considered manual labor doesn't mean we'll see the era of robots fixing the robots that fix the robots in 24 years. Keep thinking that way though.
>>539571929>Agreed. Layout isnt right.give it 5 years
A.I. can't perform manual labour because it needs repetition. It may hammer 10 000 nails perfectly but for some reason, 1 nail gets bent because it's defective. The a.i. can't check it's work and even if it does it needs to remove that nail. But now I needs to find another location for that new nail because it can't drive the nail in the hole that was left by the wonky nail. Basically it can't troubleshoot on the fly and that's 50% of labour. You think every nail will have clearance to swing a hammer or operate a nail gun? No. You think every outer tie rod replacement will be the same? What if its greasy and the robot can't get the wrench to hold the shaft. Will it think of wiping the grease off and using vice grips? Will it heat up the tie rod holding nut just enough to expand it a bit without damaging the rest of the suspension components? Will it do all this in any kind of weather with dirt, bugs, crack heads and all manner of obstacles like uneven ground?No
>>539568172I'm a pro forklifter, EPJ, cherry picker, reach truck, standup or sitdown anything that uses forks my skill tree is maxed out im a 99 ovr I go so hard and my precision is so intense normies tell on me for being "unsafe" the managers know me and just know I'm based as fuck and preciseBasically my job is already being hit with the bots, half the warehouse space I work in is devoted to them Nonetheless, people like me who are skilled and work hard (aka white) are easily worth 20 of those robots, even more because I can problem solve outside of my assigned domain if something requires itSo while it's not that the robots CANT do it, it's just still more efficient to have skilled humans do it instead, maybe someday tho
>>539572151>1/1000statictically it's closer to 1/33, a system trained to do nothing but nail nails is still only about 96-97% accurate.
>>539571992And u people said self driving cars are never going to be here yet my tesla rides me around everywere, can't rember last time I touched the wheel
>>539571108Nope. My business doesn't concern either. Also I don't need a source for something that is common knowledge. Retard. Keep coping neckbeard.
Robots for residential use will be 90% used for sex, massages, and basic chores like folding laundry
>>539571490I also have a master's degree in EE and I am currently working in construction (my own company, building homes). I feel like I have the soul read on you right now anon. Any engineer should be smart enough to build his own home. You'll put $100k equity in your pocket for the trouble. Have you thought about it? Where would you even begin? Land, lawyers, chainsaw, inspections, permits, more inspections, excavation, foundation, build? Framing, roofing, siding, doors and windows, HVAC, plumbing, electrical, insulating, drywall, flooring, finishing. Each of the things to learn in the above list expand into lists of their own that have 50 things you must know for each. Your questions about AI are dumb if not disingenuous. If you're as smart as you think you are it should be easy for you to learn all the ins and outs of construction, which would then answer your AI question.
>>539568172Good thing you're in stem instead of something that requires command of the English language. Fuck man
>bachelor's in ganges water chugging >masters in STEMis this the most bottom feeding subanimal jeet tier thing you can do, academically speaking?
>>539573658To be fair, a lot of this complexity is due to regulations designed to entrench the trades behind beurocratic red tape. Structures not built to code are still standing now that were built hundreds of years ago. That said, the governance and regulation piece definitely would slow down implementation process. My arguement is on a timeline of 26 years the problem falls flat on its face on logistics alone. Not being a framer myself I can square up boards and set toenails. Not being a drywall installer but it's not difficult to hang sheetrock. Hell, drywall isn't inherently even necessary. Would I do it these things as efficiently as someone who has made it their full time job? No. Would I want to do it? Not particularly. Those fields of labor exist because even people who perform manual labor appreciate efficient, quality craftsmanship and don't want to spend their time doing it.
>>539568172Nigger you can't even figure out spelling check
>>539568172>Can high iq manual labor fags please expline to me why AI wont be able to do this until 1 day after ur retirement in 2050?You need to build a robot that has the dexterity of a human being and the judgement and problem solving to recognize and correct a problem.
>>539574106I agree with letting somebody else hang the drywall or put on the siding or shingle the roof. After you've installed Soffit one time, your brain will go numb doing it again. But I believe that it is good for a man to learn all these things and to know how they work. In the context of this thread, a real engineer is someone who has an insatiable appetite for knowledge.
Build it with your fucking robots.I will probably get paid more because it still has to be built outside of the lab.
>>539568172Not to defend the retards who fell for the tradie meme, but obviously "AI" could never ever do this. Obviously. How the fuck could it? If you mean some sort of AI interface with a humanoid robot, we're at least several decades off from that.
>>539568172>I drive my a bunch fo Mexican WDHMBT?
>>539568439You should brush up on the correlation between linguistic competency and general IQ. I'm not going to explain it to you because it's not my job to wipe your ass.
On top of that note I have seen the back wait times for prefab builds be longer then they can be slapped out on the job site.
Hell you want the truth?We probably call someone spanky because he's cheaper then the machine rental to move the lumber. Hurry up spanky
>>539577065Badly generated image
>>539568172you're only asking this question because A: you are cartoonishly underinformed about how many skill sets are required to do many (not all) forms of manual laborB: you've never done any of it, so you find it easy to just imagine stuff to be trueyou sound like Dr. Evil asking for a million dollars then laughingmy grandchildren will be dead before AI even comes remotely close to a 40 yr old jack-of-trades handyman
>>539568172It will But it wont be artisan
Man how do I get that 4chan data How much man i got things id like to check >oh god im one of them now
>>539577384>AIWell before you get on about your kids dying, first AI needs to actually exist. LLM's aren't AI.
>>539577384I used to do it so I know its just hammering and wrenching. Wait, dont tell me u ahead to measure? Yup, thsts totes more complicated than engineering
>>539568172>we can make a robot that can hammer a nailneet>it costs the same as hiring 10 mexicans oh my.....>it requires a huge initial investment and probably a high interest loan to buyuhhhhh....>and it will require lazy braindead trust fund chuds that are already making millions to get personally involved and learn how to operate and maintain a new piece of equipmentbig yikes sweaty>
>>539577023Look up the correlation between top intellectual performers and bad grammar or other socially inept attributes and not just the 107 iq midwits
>>539574288We already did, just didnt specilize them yet. Wait a few months..
>>539573658Why would u go through getting a masters in EE just to build homes? I've done construction and tech work before I went to college dude, I know what it entails. Not good for ur back..
>>539568804Your forgot to add something [spoiler]BROTHERRRRRR[/spoiler]
>>539573658AI and youtube can easily tell u what to do in every situation. I highly doubt u have a masters in EE if u think its the same level as building a house
>saar can you expline why indian God Juggernaut machin not be better then u?>I need no grammer Sahr, big rich man I worship who make big machine I worship said it so>Sahr do not swerve from the at hand topic>I HAVE PHD FROM UNIVERSITI OF MUMBAI
>>539569078>cow>kick your skull inWhat? It’s not a horse, anon. Maybe it kicks your shins, but I’ve never seen a jumping/angry cow and thought “yeah that’s gonna hit me in the head.”>t. Mixed practice veterinarian >>539568172If you spend a week trying to do anything in construction even remotely complex, you will fail miserably. Start with building 100’ of dog ear picket fence. You’ll still fail, miserably. Add difficult terrains, weather, materials, and the grueling amount of energy it takes to do all of that consistently for a 12 hour shift.Good fucking luck getting a robot to do that. We’d need batteries 10x as dense as they are now, 100x safer, and fuck just think of the processing power an AI robot would need. 1000x what it would take for self driving cars. What happens when there’s no high speed WiFi? Imagine all the tools, designs, conditions, implementations, environments, materials, hazards, the dust, dirt, everything.I’ll stick to being a country boy who can weld, swing a hammer, run a farm, and do a little bit of everything when I’m not practicing medicine. There’s no machine or human in this universe that’s going to replace everything I can do and know in my lifetime lol.
I remember 10 years ago when boston dynamics were showing off those robot dogs and now you can buy them on temu for a grand. Instead of giant big bulky humanoid robots like Atlas we now have these slim models being sold as domestic servants for the (not even that) rich. Teleoperated by indians sure, but for how long?
>>539577716And you clearly have never been on an actual farm or likely anywhere near one.
>>539568172Mathcels will be the first to become obsolete
