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if you aren’t classically educated then you shouldn’t have an opinion on politics
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larp
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>>539571252
Fuck your classical education. All your gayreek philosophy is just a bunch of retards compared to the bible
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I got raped by a nasty old greek faggot when I was a kid, does that count?
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>>539571341
Yes actually
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>>539571252
What is even classical education?
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>>539571252
If it affects me in any way I have a right to an opinion on it.
If you do not want me to give my opinion do not involve me at all.
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>>539571387
>What is even classical education?
The trivium and quadrivium(the original liberal arts), and being well-read in the ancients.
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>>539571311
Greeks wrote that
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>>539571447
But did you learn from a public masturbator that lived in a barrel?
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>>539571447
I'm reading The Life of Pythagoras and it is fascinating. 10/10, recommend.
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>>539571252
The fluting on those columns is dogshit.
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>>539571311
You probably read the masoretic text, not the septuagint.
tard
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>>539571252
regardless of what info u got ur still a do nothing useless eater. i see all these christcuck retards, hyperborean retards, nat soc retards etc talking about their moral beliefs and rituals thta make them very good boys, yet you are, such a good boy yet what do you do for your political beliefs? what do u actually sacrifice? nothing
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>>539571252
I am though. I understand that out (((government))) has been captured by a foreign power and must be destroyed.
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>>539571602
Based. I’ve jumped forward in time with my reading interests as of late, and thus I’m reading Rasail Al Hikma at the moment. Hard read honestly.
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>>539571252
Do you love triangles though?
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pseud thread
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>>539571252
>classically educated
Where do I start, smart bros?
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>>539571833
I fucking love the tetractys(unironically)
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Nobody should have an opinion on politics,
least of all the idiots that think they're smart enough to
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if your opinion on politics goes beyond "politics is vanity" you are still mentally a child
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Unless your yearly take home salary is 1.8 million you should just shut the fuck up about politics
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>>539571893
Read the principal literature on whichever subject that you’re already familiar with.
Do you like geography? Read Geographica with notations.
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>>539571516
kek
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>>539571693
>what do you do for your political beliefs? what do u actually sacrifice? nothing
Thousands of man-hours shitposting and mashing F5
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>>539571770
Interesting. You might enjoy Rumi.
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>>539571531
>But did you learn from a public masturbator that lived in a barrel?
Yes, and he taught me about making men out of chickens, too. You jelly?
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>>539571252
Farmers would disagree. Even the classically trained has to eat. Labor force is also more important so their opinions matter more. Designers, engineers and architects are actually pretty low on the food chain because their skills aren't exactly a necessity. Sure it gives you nice things but they're not crucial for survival.
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>>539571252
Why are you using a VPN, Sven? We know it's you.
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>>539571252
Names all the classics if you’re so smart!
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>>539571252
>classically educated
Nice loose definitions
>enjoy the government taking away your rights when they deem you are neither classical or educated.
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How did Pythagoras die again?
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>>539571252
You can't be classically educated in English. The language's structure is hostile
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True to the Catholic Church my school only taught Latin so we read the like four poets worth reading in a couple semesters and then suffered through self congratulatory oratory for 6 years.
I've got a real bastardized fake classical education.
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>>539573901
What does it even mean for a language structure to be hostile? Seems like base envy.
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>>539573955
The English language is structured around, individual, short direct sentences.
Latin and Greek around wide paragraphs of long interconnected sentences.
This reduces philosophy discussion in English to name-dropping because the points can't be organically articulated in the discourse.
Besides, too many words are borrowed from non-Germanic languages and makes it very hard for a conversation to be precise.
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>>539573739
Physiocracy.
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>>539571252
But "should not" doesn't really matter in society, does it. There are a lot of things that "should be" different, but they're not, and "should" in itself doesn't do anything.
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>>539574111
https://youtu.be/NJYoqCDKoT4
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>>539571252
Unironically agreed. Politics should return to Atlantean days with Secret Society Government ran by inner Merit
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>>539574411
See? You can't make a point on your own. You have to make an index reference.
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>>539574612
Wasn’t my conversation to be a part of, I’m just providing material.
And my dear Anon.. you must simply accept that using references is a very central part of having an informed conversation, were I even intending to have one with you. I don’t know enough about linguistics to even argue.
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>>539574740
That's the issue, it's like reading the Wikipedia article and making a point on the matter without the context behind.
What I was talking about. That English encourages this behavior
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>>539574891
¿Me puedes repetir en español lo que has estado diciendo? Me parece muy interesante pero creo que no lo estoy comprendiendo del todo en inglés.
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>>539574111
You might as well give up on using a VPN. You're not fooling anybody.
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>>539575008
Básicamente que el inglés es un idioma que destaca en la parátasis que es el construir múltiples oraciones claras y concisas que pueden funcionar de manera independiente mientras que el latín y el griego se caracterizan por la hipotaxis que es la construcción de frases largas y complejas interconectadas en estructuras de parágrafos.
Esto dificulta el expresar ideas complejas provenientes del griego o latín en inglés, por lo que se recurre a alusiones a los autores, filosofías u obra cómo una forma de decir "ya sabes, ese término que me llevaría una página describir en inglés"
El problema con esto es, que al haberse abandonado el estudio de los clásicos y sus lenguas, las referencias pierden relación con el contenido sustituyendo ideas concretas por vagas o difusas que actúan más que nada como jerga que simboliza prestigio.
No es que este problema no exista en español, pero es especialmente grave en inglés y las consecuencias de que se extiendan éstas tendencias gracias al dominio cultural estadounidense lo hace peor que si ocurriera en un lenguaje más aislado.
Además al usar demasiadas palabras de origen grecorromano apesar de ser lengua germánica oscurece el significado de las mismas al dificultar al angloparlante promedio el identificar las raíces que explican los matices que aporta el escoger una palabra sobre su sinónimo.
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>>539575738
Brutal, me queda clarísimo. Deduzco que la élite intelectual de la civilización griega era mucho más inteligente que la gran masa de la gente de hoy en día, e incluso que nuestra (casi inexistente) élite intelectual. Una causa de esto debe ser el hecho de haber pérdido la capacidad de hablar, leer o entender el idioma de civilizaciones antiguas intelectualmente superiores como el griego y el latín.
Esto es como las razas en india - en un punto de la historia debían ser todos rubios, pero por culpa de la mezcla sanguínea hoy los 1.2 billones de indios que hay ahí abajo son todos marrones de cojones: hay una pérdida en la conexión con el núcleo racial que hace que la raza se degenere. En este caso del que hablamos, se produce el mismo efecto pero con la lengua y el conocimiento.
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>>539575886
Simplemente los griegos no eran menos listos que nosotros.
Si lo piensas la mayoría de los saberes estaban mucho menos desarrollados por aquel entonces y eso permitía que existiesen sabios en el sentido original de la palabra, aquellos que dominaban todo el conocimiento existente.
Cómo se podían dedicar a un saber mucho menos especializado, de carácter general, tenían los básicos mucho más pulidos y un entendimiento mucho más global y orgánica del pensamiento.
Y lo que es más importante incluso, al ser los primeros, no dependían de estudiar largas cadenas de discusiones si no que partían con claridad.
En cierto punto se fué dejando al considerarse que el estudio de los clásicos suponía un compromiso demasiado grande frente a una formación mucho más técnica y especializada con un carácter universal (al contrario que los griegos, quiénes estudiaban si se lo podían permitir en su tiempo libre)



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