Should citizenship be given at birth or earned by merit?
>>539572901By heritage
some would say democracy is a failure
>>539572901in a just civilization, it would be based on merit
>>539572901citizenship obligations are not conferred they are by consentcitizens serve governments
if citizenship isnt given at birth then what exactly are you supposed to do with all the people with no citizenship anywhere?
>>539573077>>539573059Even ignoring America's system, a nationstate that has Jus Sanguinis still grants citizenship at birth to the offspring of their citizens. Is that good, or should the offspring have to earn citizenship by service, purchase, or merit?
>>539573181The UN can carve out part of Siberia and call it Statelesstan. Send them all there.
>>539573264>The UN can carve out part of Siberia and call it Statelesstanno it cant
>>539572901Kill yourself cappy scum.
>>539573333Sure it can. The Russians already sent unwanted foreigners to Siberia on multiple occasions, just tell them this is part of the Soviet redemption arc
>>539573228>should the offspring have to earn citizenship by service, purchase, or merit?
>>539573414I refuse to believe there are FWLfags.
>>539572901Fucking Capellan scum can't be trusted to be a citizen ever
>>539573486The FWL were the only real good guys of the succession wars. They just wanted to be left alone.
>>539573594>They just wanted to be left alone.Weird way to say Lyran.
>>539572901>would you like to know more?
>>539572933This. The structure of up-bring should be to instill the values from your heritage and enforce the sense of identity and citizenship should only belong to those the nation was founded by and for. The concern of birth v. merit is therefore unnecessary.
>>539572901Citizenship should be bestowed birth under conditions. Being able to participate in society (vote, business ownership, etc) should be granted after public service.
>white man come home
Most 4tards only got theirs by birth. Every last one of these retards would be stateless if merit had anything to do with it.
>>539572901Battletech died with the 'Jihad.It's yet another franchise that I used to really respect and now I just couldn't care less.
>>539572933>By patrilineal heritageFTFY>>539572901And for newcomers, just make it, like, an 8 slice pie chart where you can earn 1 slice per generation that behaves well and contributes to the country, so if you behave well, your child becomes +12,5% citizen. You're not actively selecting for race but will still end up with mainly white and east asian citizens.And then you can start setting rules by citizenship tier. Criminals under 25% get immediately deported or executed, under 50% is immediate loss of citizenship and 20 years incarceration, etc.
>>539575620wonder what happened to those pods in the centre of town. Hope they aren't all in some trash heap.
>>539572901Merit is a meaningless term without context
>>539572901FUCK capellans, citizenship comes from your parents.
>>539576114Battletech was built on bootleg macross minis, you've GOT to be kidding
>>539572901Only if they’re willing to die for Israel
I think everyone should be placed in prison factories upon reaching puberty and if they show they aren’t npc’s by the time they are 18 they can go free.
>>539576208that photo is from a place in Houston Texas called MechCorps that still has fully functional pods that you can play every weekend. ive never been but always wanted to try it. seems like such an amazing time capsule tho
>>539572933fippy bippy, patrilineal heritage
>>539572901As long as you don't believe merit is blasting off some goatfucker in a desert
>>539572901Eat shit Liao scum
>>539572901>EarnHow has it not been?
A lot of servitors in this thread.
>>539573594*Taurians
>>539572901kill 100 jeets and you become a Canadian knight