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Should citizenship be given at birth or earned by merit?
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>>539572901
By heritage
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some would say democracy is a failure
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>>539572901
in a just civilization, it would be based on merit
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>>539572901

citizenship obligations are not conferred they are by consent

citizens serve governments
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if citizenship isnt given at birth then what exactly are you supposed to do with all the people with no citizenship anywhere?
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>>539573077
>>539573059
Even ignoring America's system, a nationstate that has Jus Sanguinis still grants citizenship at birth to the offspring of their citizens. Is that good, or should the offspring have to earn citizenship by service, purchase, or merit?
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>>539573181
The UN can carve out part of Siberia and call it Statelesstan. Send them all there.
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>>539573264
>The UN can carve out part of Siberia and call it Statelesstan
no it cant
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>>539572901
Kill yourself cappy scum.
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>>539573333
Sure it can. The Russians already sent unwanted foreigners to Siberia on multiple occasions, just tell them this is part of the Soviet redemption arc
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>>539573228
>should the offspring have to earn citizenship by service, purchase, or merit?
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>>539573414
I refuse to believe there are FWLfags.
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>>539572901
Fucking Capellan scum can't be trusted to be a citizen ever
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>>539573486
The FWL were the only real good guys of the succession wars. They just wanted to be left alone.
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>>539573594
>They just wanted to be left alone.
Weird way to say Lyran.
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>>539572901
>would you like to know more?
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>>539572933
This. The structure of up-bring should be to instill the values from your heritage and enforce the sense of identity and citizenship should only belong to those the nation was founded by and for. The concern of birth v. merit is therefore unnecessary.
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>>539572901
Citizenship should be bestowed birth under conditions. Being able to participate in society (vote, business ownership, etc) should be granted after public service.
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>white man come home
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Most 4tards only got theirs by birth. Every last one of these retards would be stateless if merit had anything to do with it.
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>>539572901
Battletech died with the 'Jihad.

It's yet another franchise that I used to really respect and now I just couldn't care less.
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>>539572933
>By patrilineal heritage

FTFY

>>539572901
And for newcomers, just make it, like, an 8 slice pie chart where you can earn 1 slice per generation that behaves well and contributes to the country, so if you behave well, your child becomes +12,5% citizen. You're not actively selecting for race but will still end up with mainly white and east asian citizens.

And then you can start setting rules by citizenship tier. Criminals under 25% get immediately deported or executed, under 50% is immediate loss of citizenship and 20 years incarceration, etc.
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>>539575620
wonder what happened to those pods in the centre of town. Hope they aren't all in some trash heap.
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>>539572901
Merit is a meaningless term without context
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>>539572901
FUCK capellans, citizenship comes from your parents.
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>>539576114
Battletech was built on bootleg macross minis, you've GOT to be kidding
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>>539572901
Only if they’re willing to die for Israel
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I think everyone should be placed in prison factories upon reaching puberty and if they show they aren’t npc’s by the time they are 18 they can go free.
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>>539576208
that photo is from a place in Houston Texas called MechCorps that still has fully functional pods that you can play every weekend. ive never been but always wanted to try it. seems like such an amazing time capsule tho
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>>539572933
fippy bippy, patrilineal heritage
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>>539572901
As long as you don't believe merit is blasting off some goatfucker in a desert
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>>539572901
Eat shit Liao scum
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>>539572901
>Earn

How has it not been?
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A lot of servitors in this thread.
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>>539573594
*Taurians
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>>539572901
kill 100 jeets and you become a Canadian knight



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