https://techcrunch.com/2026/07/24/us-accuses-american-of-allegedly-wiping-his-phone-using-a-duress-password-during-border-search/He's going to federal prison, the one thing you DON'T fucking do in this situation is delete evidence.
>>539576832Smart spic. This is why you do it. He ain't going to prison. They have to prove it was evidence but they now can't. He's safe. Stfu idiot.
>>539576904Interfering with an investigation.
>>539576904>They have to prove it was evidenceincorrect.in federal court all they have to do i s prove intent.and since intent is in the mind...
>>539576957In order to prove he deleted evidence you must provide the evidence for cross examination.If you can't, you cannot prove he deleted evidence.It's his phone, he is legally allowed to factory default it if he chooses to.
>>539576993>It's his phoneread the eula.it was never his phone.
>>539576993Doesn't matter, it's felony obstruction.
35 eyes through prism, has a total backdoor on your google android OS and your apple iphone OS, and there are no warrants needed for the Jewish to scan this data, they collect it all whether you want it or not, and if you're caught up in the dragnet then tag you're it.Androids and Iphones in the USA are fully backdoored and NSA'd. All of them, not some of them, and this also applies to ones that go out to other countries, giving the CIA FBI etc a chance to spy on people all over the world. Iran tried to sidestep this with their pagers, but Mossad was able to put PETN explosives into them, and these PETN pagers passed bag check at delta airlines millions of times, not a single explosive check at an airline found the Explosives hidden in Jewish Pagers made for their Islamic racial enemies. Proving that the long waiting line at airlines are security theater. They stop you and take away your water bottle because there might be an explosive in it, but then you put an explosive inside a Pager, and they can't see it even though it's right there.Someone tested un-exploded Iranian pagers of Jewish design and was able to get them through american airlines, delta airlines, and united airlines.Either the machine is so smart it auto-not-sees the explosive since it is a wanted one, or else the big scanner machine is a glorified xray machine and they can't tell the difference between a battery and a plastic explosive.
>>539577032possession is 9/10ths
>>539576957Don't think so, chief. He fulfilled the request in providing the passcode. Request was fulfilled. If anything, this a giant advertisement for graphene os. Go fuck yourself>>539576983Retard>>539576993This
>>539577042it's really not.stop listening to things white trash says.>>539577061>Retardyou really don't know how the law works do you.i'll explain.>you get arrested for this>you go to court for this>you get convicted and go to prison for thisthat's about it.there is no ability to prove innocence any longer.you're in 1984.
>>539576904Exactly.I remember there was a military guy they thought had stuff in an encrypted drive but be refused to decrypt it and they eventually had to let him go.
>>539576832He's not going to prison without evidence.
>>539577107You're a giant retard. Everyone agrees. Why do you think the FBI cried so much over apple not allowing backdoors? Because all the cases were getting dropped.No one believes you. Kys glownigger.
>>539577032So he stole a phone, which is a separate crime than deleting phone information.>>539577036Prove it, if I am pulled over and delete my phone. I have a phone with no information on it.Supreme Court already ruled you are not allowed to use phone information stored within the phone without a warrant anyways.So while you can physically inspect my phone, like actually look at the case.You aren't legally allowed to look at the information on the phone anyways without the warrant.If I delete said information before the warrant takes place, that means there is not a criminal investigation against me.Which means I cannot be guilty of deleting evidence in relation to a criminal investigation.You do realize this is real life and not a soap opera right?
>>539576832stressful situation sorry used wrong code oops
>>539577036Why don't you go out and do something useful like shoot some Somali niggers?
>>539577107>it's really not.sure sure, go hold a kilo of cocaine in front of a cop and claim it's not yours
But my phone does that on its own?
>>539577165>You're a giant retard. Everyone agrees.you know everyone uses tiktok, too, don't you?your point is super fucking irrelevant to reality, anon.>Why do you think the FBI cried so much over apple not allowing backdoors?distraction chicken.there is no such thing as a system that is secure.if you knew how computers worked you'd understand that.
>>539577201Exactly. what's this glowniggers response to interning the wrong code 10 times and the phone just wipes itself?Obstruction? Deleting evidence?Tongue my anus, glownigger fag boy
>>539576832>the one thing you DON'T fucking do in this situation is delete evidence.That would depend on what the evidence is wouldn't it?
>>539576832For any anons curious what to do in this situationYou get a clear case. You put a sticky note on the back with "PW: 123456" on the back. Maybe it could be, e.g., your birthday. Doesn't matter. Then you refuse to tell them the password. They will, naturally, read the note clearly visible on the outside. And being cops, when you say "I am invoking my 5th amendment right to stay silent, I am not impeding your investigation; furnish me an attorney, who I am sure will assist you in your investigation." You have to say exactly this. >They, being pigs, are immediately going to enter the password, and wipe the phone. You didn't obstruct.
>>539577179>he stole a phoneno, he was renting it.>>539577194>hold a kilo of cocaine in front of a cop and claim it's not yoursthat would be you exercising the 1/10th, anonyou're really bad at legal math.
>>539577147>>539577179The evidence is that he obstructed law enforcement during a criminal investigation by knowingly providing a code that deleted potential evidence.
>>539577036It does matter. He can say he has Dick pics on his phone and didnt want the cops stealing them. He deleted them for privacy reason, then it becomes a he said she said, and the cops need a good prosecutor or to be facing a shitty public defender. Everything matters in court.
>>539577061GrapheneOS is made by glowniggers. They routinely lie about being audited (no formal audit has been conducted), they also lie about auditing the HW drivers (no drivers are made available by google, only blobs, preventing a proper audit). They also frequently use manipulative communication and weaponize their followers against individuals they dislike. The former lead dev was ukranian. Do not trust graphene.
>>539577261>5th amendment right to stay silentthe 5th isn't your right to stay silent.it's the right to not incriminate yourself.the correct wording is "go ahead, it's not locked because i'm not 15."
>>539577261Illegal under booby trap laws.
>>539577118>but be refused to decrypt it and they eventually had to let him go.It depends. There was a person locked up that refused to provide a password. In that case they had a witness (I think his sister) that said their was illegal material on the phone. Because they knew it contained evidence, the person no longer had a right to the password. They let him go after 4 years in jail it seems.https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/02/man-who-refused-to-decrypt-hard-drives-is-free-after-four-years-in-jail/
>>5395772759/10 > 1/10 retard
>>539577165And then Jobs died of turbo aids shortly after and a jeet ceo now let's them do what they want
>>539577305This deflection confirms it's safe. Going to download it right now. Thanks for the confirmation, glowfaggot
>>539577366the house always has the bigger odds, anon.you really are still living in the 90s where the law was real, aren't you?let me guess, you think epstein was a real person, too?
>>539577061>If anything, this a giant advertisement for graphene osOh that's great, then the feds will send the phone to Israel and miraculously some Israeli "startup" which shares the same building with Qualcomm's Israel subsidiary will "recover the evidence" from the phone.
>>539577036>>539577032>Felony obstruction Only if they end up accessing criminal content on that device.>Delaying officer, destroying evidence etcThere have been murderers in the past that everyone knew it and because the body was never recovered and there was no murder weapon, they had to let him go.
>>539576832It’s still on the phone, you have to do a bleach bit, if you just delete it, it just allows new data to be overwritten over top of the old “deleted” data.
I need to check with my lawyer on what to do because my password contains hate numbers.
>>539577367False. Still no backdoor, moron.
>>539577330The 5th amendment protects against self-incrimination, and thus if that incrimination may come through testimony, the right to stay silent. If one remains silent without invoking the 5th and their right to an attorney, this has and can be used to argue obstruction. Merely requesting an attorney or invoking the right to remain silent is not enough; one must explain they do not intend to impede the investigation.Since you have no problem with me seeing what's on your devices, give me your logins anon. >>539577331It is not a booby trap under the law. Lmao @ glowniggers crawling out of the woodworks to scream "NO DO N'T DO THAT"
>>539577443Literally a digital booby trap.
The case also raises ongoing questions about what constitutional rights can be invoked at the border, which the U.S. government has long asserted is not U.S. soil until a person is authorized to enter.The IRS hunts people to the end of the world to pay taxes a second time in America because they were unfortunately born in the USA 50 years prior. How odd in some cases your laws are invalid on the border. But in other cases your laws are valid across the globe.
>>539577371If you trust someone that lies on their homepage... I don't think you're a good judge of character.Whatever tho. u do u
>>539577443>The 5th amendment protects against self-incrimination, and thus if that incrimination may come through testimony, the right to stay silentimplications are not legislation.lrn2law.however, you are correct.>>539577415none of that matters since the owner of the phone (either google or apple) is consistently archiving it's contents 24/7.what did you think the data centers were for?
>>539576957What is stopping them from investigating?
>>539577460It is legally not a booby trap. Cops have no right to enter your phone without a warrant even if you have the passcode on the back. By entering the code, they're breaking the law. This is important, because it poisons any argument they could make.
>>539577401>The Jews will get access and expose your criminal contentHearty kek. You can be the cleanest homosexual out there and they will create, install and expose criminal content and say it's yours and there is nothing you can do about it
>>539577476You're a retarded glownigger faggot of car salemen tier. Seriously. Killself.
>>539576832the password is NIGGERFAGGOTTRANNIEKIKE
>>539576832LMAOOOOO Glowniggers fucking hate GrapheneOS for this one simple trickFuck glowniggers
The feds can put anyone away forever with the contents of ANY hard drive. Obstruction, contempt of court, destruction of evidence etc. is almost certainly gonna get him less time than whatever was on there. Why not just wipe everything before customs and mail an encrypted microsd card though?
>>539577509The duress password deleting the device they wished to investigate.
>>539577562>The feds can put anyone away forever with the contents of ANY hard drivethey don't even need a drive.they can just print out fabricated things (like the epstein files).
>>539576832>>539576957me paso tu pinche evidecia fabricada por los huevos indio
>>539577521Why are you so angry about me questioning graphene?>>539577480Miranda v. Arizona established the 5th amendment privelege during police interrogation, specifically that a person must be told they have the right to remain silent, and that if the individual indicates they wish to remain silent, the interrogation MUST cease. The court explicitly stated invoking silence as someone exercising their 5th amendment rights. Happy?>>539577562They call it nudging. You show me the person, I'll show you the crime.
>>539577562>Who doesn't have cp on their hard drive, everyone does, right?neck yourself
>>539577930See >>539577702>They call it nudging. You show me the person, I'll show you the crime.
>>539577702>why are you so angry about me questioning graphene?You didn't question it, you said it was run by glowniggers and then word salad afterwards. This is clear deflection. You should apply to do marketing for grapheneOS, dumb fuck.
>>539577036That’s for a court to decide, nigger
>>539578033>Run by glowniggersthe lead dev works for the ukranian military. Is that not a glownigger?>Word saladSuch as?
>>539577040I doubt the Iranians have mass spectrometers at their airline security
>>539578094The process is the punishment. By giving a duress code he has already guaranteed his prosecution and years of court fees as he gets dragged through the system.
Sorry to be the barer of bad news but rights and due process only applies to Jewish billionair pedophiles. Unless you confess to whatever crime the cops say you did your are obstructing and investigation or whatever. And your going to jail no matter what
>>539578269"The process is the punishment"This is one of the most dogshit evil bullshit ideas I see proudly proclaimed by retards.
>>539578145Nope, its run by a Canadian nonprofit org. All the code is public. This is very anti-glownigger. You've lost the plot.
>>539576957Investigation of what? Breaching the right to privacy?
>>539576957>The government’s indictment accuses Tunick of allegedly providing a passcode to border agents that caused the phone to “delete the digital contents,” prior to the device being seized.He didn't do anything besides provide a passcode, and he did so before any investigation was initiated.
>>539578354https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44578394The lead developer works for the ukranian military.>All code is publicGrapheneOS has never undergone a formal audit. What are they hiding?
>>539578269Lol. All he has to do is issue a anti-SLAPP suit and your little war of attrition attempts.
>>539578336It's called lawfare, and is the modern innovation of the last 50 years by government to adapt to increasingly more challenging criminals.
>>539577930pretty much anyone who frequents this place will have had cp thumbnails cached somewhere at some point
>>539578422All the code is on GitHub you retarded nigger. Its constantly being audited. Kys.
>>539578469Nonsense, "challenging criminals" 1. presumes guilt 2. doesn't apply to anyone harmed by perversion of the law
>>539576832They can have it. All I do is read 4 chan and watch titty videos on my phone. Imagine actually using your phone for anything in 2015+11
>>539578497Open source isn't an audit. Truecrypt was open source and infected by intelligence agencies for years. This is why formal audits are standard practice.GrapheneOS refuses formal audits. What are they hiding?
just comply already leftshits
>>539578559Cool so what's your username and passwords? You know, since you have nothing to hide.
>>539578510You have no reasonable expectation of privacy in the united states, as established by the NSA, CIA, FBI amid Snowden and Assanges' allegations that led to nothing, and various types of ALPR cameras such as flock. And besides, if you aren't a criminal nigger, you have nothing to be worried about. You think border patrol cares about your feet pictures?
>yeah just use a password and you will stop the government from accessing your data>trust me, there are no backdoors>winks
>>539577283That's what you say.That's not evidence, that's hearsay.
>>539578510They fuse them, because it's already open source and all the code is public. Do you have brain worms?
>>539578602That's got nothing to do with what I said. But, I'll bite.Give me your email username and password if you're not a criminal and have nothing to hide.
>>539578629Refuse*
>>539578625It's literally evidence because they can provide recording of him telling them the duress password and then showing what happened to the device when it was input.
>>539577578They had no right to investigate.No Warrant = No Obstruction, you fucking pig. Go get run over.
>>539576957A random search is not an investigation.
>>539578682>>539578746"Reasonable Cause"
>>539578669oh no, he said something that might be the password but it turns out it was the assword. aaaaaahhhhh!!!!
>>539577283Sounds like you're very upset and not willing to hear reason.May I suggest you start coping?
>>539578660>>539578660If graphene refuses formal audits... why do one, then lie about the results, and refuse to publish?
>>539578755It was a typo. You have brain worms. Its confirmed. You're really bad at well poisoning. Not a single person agrees with you. Topkek.
>>539578669Nope. They can prove that he gave them a code. They can't prove what the code did or what it erased, if anything. >>539578764Nope. Probable cause works for traffic stops and personal searches. There is NO probable cause to assume he had something on his phone that you had any right to see.
>>539578593Haha this nigga signs into his phone with his actual dox. hhahahahahaha
>>539578820Why are you behaving so erratic, anon?
>>539578839Do you live into the UK and use a VPN? We don't dox to use our phones in the US.
>>539578807You don't do formal audits on open source projects. Its already formally open source, dumb fuck. Major grapheneos advertisement.
>>539578988If you don't formally audit open source projects, then why did graphene do a formal audit and refuse to publish the results?
>>539578839honestly? I just tried to sell my $200 phone for an offer of $5 whole dollars at a machine in walmart that required both my face and ID to know to buy disposable android trash, to throw in the trash after wiping off your fingerprints and doing a factory reset just for browsing this shithole websiteyou might have clicked on the ai degenerate porn threat once or something they might get evil with hacker shit to make a case of your browsing history, also fabricated evidence, that is why you never search for stupid bullshit and are careful with what youtube video you click. or click on anything. or pay for internet with your credit card. or go on corporate wifi at all (starcucks cameras) every way you think you can get smart either a hacker has figured out and sold out for or requires minimal detective sherlock holmes work
>>539578878This well poisoning is deleting his comments. Royally ass blasted. You should get backdoored by a feral nigger.
>>539577261This, that's why I have fake pin numbers everywhere like credit cards.>>539577331Well don't be dumb, lable properly like "backup-password-reset" Or like said literally use something that cops will try like date of birth. You have bad memory so you used something easy to remember. Or have a dead man "anti theft switch that wipes if not unlocked every x days" The issue is device/clouded backup it's hard to make a trusted set up with that. So the local phone might not matter much. Unless you can hide the linked accounts etc
>>539579184My original comment can be found here, for anyone who wishes to see it: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/539576832/#539578755Unlike grapheneOS, I'm transparent.
>>539576832sounds extremely fake, no way a random fag set up his phone like this, anyone smart enough to do it would carry an innocuous phone and would get their data over vpn/tor once past the cops they locked the phone themselves since they're 70 IQ tards then blamed the guy, and didn't get higher up glowies to help against literally who
>>539577036"If the gloves does not fit you must aquit"What do you think what happens with proper murder without body evidence or murder weapons? You don't send them to prisons with no evidence or on obstruction etc.
>>539576904>>539576957I'm retarded and forgot my password. Prove that I'm not.
>>539579332You're confusing several critical things.
>>539579361This has been tried, and you'd simply be held in contempt indefinitely until compliance.
>>539579332its not hard, its just a custom operating system he downloaded. he also was most likely doing this to hide cp.
>>539579373>>539579398FagMotorola Partnership: GrapheneOS is actively collaborating with Motorola. They are engineering a next-generation subset of Qualcomm Snapdragon flagship devices that will natively meet GrapheneOS's security thresholds by 2027.
>>539579492That's got nothing to do with what I said. Are you a bot? >>539579444GrapheneOS, while a glowniggerOS that lies about audits, and lies about verifying google's firmware, has legitimate use beyond hiding CP. Most of the people using it, aren't criminals.Bad well poisoning, anon. Don't. Be better.
>>53957861499.99% of the time, the average civilian is dealing with dickhead local/municipal cops who dont have access to letter-agency resources, so those backdoors are functionally moot.
>>539579332just because you're mexican doesn't mean there aren't people stupider than you
>>539579492>1pbtidIt just struck me how weird it is that someone would pop into this thread to post a total non-sequitur advertisement for graphene.Is grapheneOS running bots to respond to criticism? >>539579639While true, most cops have cellbrite machines now. Those backdoors are baked in to most phones and used by local cops.
>>539576832LAND OF THE FREEkek
>>539579693No shit? Hm, I stand corrected
>>539579332lmao you NEVER go on the dark web/tor in the first place if your argument is that you're such a good nice personon the clearnet? you never click on things that seem innocent. ever.browsing popular websites and normie shit is bad enough. the best thing you can look at online is 4chan
>>539579704J'adore la France.
>>539579756I literally have gone on the fucking german dictionary duden, and else where in the clear net and gotten a million pop ups, advertisement and retarded woke programmed moving shit and commercials with videos plus been asked permission for the use of all my cookies and face ID toothis woke shit needs to fuck off
>>539579704https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFIDh74nZSkhere's your Chicano artificial intelligence bro my logic is undeniable lmao
>>539579530Fag
>>539579693You really are stupid. Why the fuck would grapheneos have 4chan and bots. Acting like you know the law when you work at Walmart. You're just a dumb well poisoning fed or loser schitzo.
>>539580829GrapheneOS has harassed people and manipulated platforms before. It wouldn't surprise me. https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/116806366559269041
>>539576957>4th Amendment - protection from unreasonable searches and seizures>5th Amendment - the right not to incriminate yourself Swallow your service pistol, insufferable pig faggot
>>539577353Consider how long it could have been if he decrypted. Never give your password, for any reason.
>>539576832Depending what was on the phone, he just saved his ass from multiple decades more in jail
>>539578602>Assanges' allegations that led to nothingOther than his death.
doesn't matter they can just put it in a cellebrite machine and suck everything off it
>>539579704Personal encryption is illegal in Europe.
