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The Spartans were actually ethnic Dorians who descended from the Dorian invasions into Greece from the North around 1200BC. A lot of people don't realise that the ancient Greeks were a hodgepodge of different races, the Achaeans (the OG Mycenaeans who brought the indo-european Greek language), the Pelagians (pre Indo European Neolithic farmers who were conquered by the Achaeans/Mycenaeans) and Dorians (Scythianlike Indo European newcomers from the North during the late Bronze Age). The Greek poleis, consisting of concentrated urban and agricultural communities above the level of family and tribe (incorrectly translated as city states) were composed of different ratios of these groups, who mixed in some cases and stayed separate in others. Within Sparta, the Dorian tribal system remained pure and unaltered, indicating the polis was completely Dorian dominated, unlike the Dorian-founded polis of Corinth (Athens before Athens), which became mixed with other non Dorian tribes. The Spartans also had a perilous decline in population due to women inheriting too much property, mens struggling to marry and outbreeding with non Spartiates or not reproducing, and more or less collapsed after a disastrous war against the Thebans. To this date, not a single Spartan has been DNA tested, and the ruins within the lacadaemonian valley are actually fortresses built by non-Spartan (mainly Achaean and Pelasgian) Helots who were rebelling against the Spartan overlords after they were weakened. With all this in mind, it's entirely possible that Spartans (and Dorians) were a North European tribe
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Spartans are often seen in a vacuum but they were in fact Dorian, and there were other Dorian poleis like Sparta that lost their Dorian purity over time, like Megara. There is a poet of Megara, Theognis, who laments the decline of the (Dorian) aristocracy of the polis, arguing they are mixing out of existence due to the rise of the merchant class

>We seek out rams and asses and horses of good breeding, Cyrnus,
>and a man wants them to mate from worthy stock.
>But a noble man does not mind marrying the >base daughter of a base father
>if he gives him abundant wealth,
>nor does a woman refuse to be the wife of a base >man who is rich—
>she prefers a wealthy husband to a noble one.
>It is money that people honour; the noble marries >the daughter of the base,
>and the base marries the daughter of the noble. >Wealth has mixed the blood.
>So do not be surprised, son of Polypaos, that the >stock of the citizens
>is growing feeble, since what is noble is being >mixed with what is base.

lines 183–192 of the Theognidea


>Cyrnus, this city is still a city, but the people are >different—
>people who formerly knew neither justice nor >laws,
>but wore tattered goatskins about their sides
>and lived outside this city like deer.
>And now they are noble, Polypaïdes, while those >who were noble before
>are now base. Who can endure the sight of this?
>They deceive one another and mock one another,
>knowing neither the distinctive marks of the base >nor those of the noble…

Lines 53–68 of the Theognidea

But of course retards will just bury their heads in the sand about all of this and tell you that the Nordicists are crazy we wuzzers. Actually the Nordicists have good points just as the Anti Nordicists do, thesis and antithesis lead to synthesis.



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