Thread for discussion of the king of /pol/ Jay DyerTopics:-His recent appearance on Tucker Carlson - https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/2076713534071947454-His victory last night against Muslim debater - https://www.youtube.com/live/b61QOmdialI-How he's never lost a debate
>>539594039Can't watch the muzzie debates, they're behind a membership paywall. I'll wait for people to start posting them on youtube
>>539594039christkike jewish turd eating religious faggot
If he's against Asians he can go fuck himself
>>539594039Pay piggie.. give me one more superchat
>>539594151shoot, sorry, i should have mentioned the paywall in the OP
>>539594039So that guy from Youtube who drank dye to make his skin turn blue is named Dyer? No wonder he was inspired to do that shit.
Reminder this literal retard stated sharks ate kelp before the fall
Christcuck genocide when
>>539594294No worries. How did Dyer/Andrew do ? Was that old Indian lesbian humiliated ?
Dyer is a jew loving retard and Owen absolutely destroyed him.
>>539594379kek https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBWa2sZOgMI
Fuck off jay you stupid nonce
>>539594039Jay just released this video an hour ago of him using 'logic' to 'dismantle' the idea that Owen Benjamin is a christian:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6bTcOFgX5IJay is just southern dumbfuck hick who uses Jordan Peterson style of 'logic' where if he says a true statement, that means he won the entire argument. One wants to hear this trailer trash hick pretend have a 'debate' when all he does is just make binary yes/no statements
People still talk about this fucking wigger? This dude is such old news. The fucking OrthoBro-TradCat sphere of the Alt-Right died a long time ago under pressure from the very churches they thought would, "save the West." Even the most reactionary wings are not actually interested in Culture Warrior bullshit. They're all theology and liturgics autists who don't understand staying out of the war doesn't mean you'll be save, it just slightl increases the amount of time it will take for them to come for you eventually.I'm a Reformed Chud so I know exactly how this goes. I've told them that they're gonna come for Calvin and all the Reformed guys, eventually, because they were predominantly Pro-Slavery and historically nationalistic. They're going to make all that, "Hate Speech," too.Not that it matters for Presbyies in particular, unfortunately, since most of their denominations and even the reactionary ones like the OPC all took a big hard stance against any sort of racial self-determination. In 1974 the OPC literally acknowledged Corporate White Guilt over Slavery is a fucking thing, yet they have the audacity to defend Dabney and Thornwell.At least in most Southern Presbyterian churches I've been to or been a member in, they're all still Unreconstructed in their opinions. But they will never buck the demonination itself over it, especially not the majority of the pastors.Two things every single Christian Church with a 501c3 Tax Exemption will always bow down to: feminism and anti-racism. They can't afford to not, like literally financially cannot make it if they get raped by having their tax exempt status removed. It's how they ended the Pro-Segregation thing; once they folded, the Fed knew these churches were powerless to form a spiritual core of Pro-White Resistance anymore.The most disgusting part are the mental gymnastics, historical revisionism and eisegesis they engage in with Scripture to justify this stance.
>>539594618Oh he talked shit about your online daddy now your butt hurts boo hoo
>>539594448>https://www.youtube.com/live/b61QOmdialIIt looked like an easy win for Jay just from the free preview so I stopped watching
>>539594188why are jeets so obsessed with shit?
>>539594622Jesus is for your personal salvation he isnt going to solve your political problems
>>539594541its so funny that owen fans call themselves 'bears', basically a euphemism for being homosexual. You people are irrelevant
>>539594039He'll be imprisoned, as will all of the members of the russian church who live in the US. Concentration camps will be set up. And the proper, summary, (no trial) holocaustic nullifications (killings) will occur.
>>539594706Owen is a dick and not someone who I spend time listening to or would ever want to associate with. But he is the most gang stalked man in america. He is forced to homestead in a barn in Idaho because society and completely blackballed him from taking part in anything. Compare that to Jay who is just another Jordan Peterson clone who likes to 'debate' (low IQ ad hominem) with 'facts and logic'
>>539594541>Dyer is a jew loving retardhe's a christcuck nigger of course he is going to be a jew loving retard
>>539594618he's just smarter than you and you can't comprehend logic. Sorry you had to learn online you were retarded
>>539594812Everything is downstream of your theology or lack thereof.
>>539594839Ironic name for fans vs sucking jew cock 24/7. Tough choice!
>>539594934youre a literal retard if you think anything he said in that video is remotely intelligent
Jay Dyer is a pretty big fag. He started to attack Nick Fagtes once, then Fagtes called him an anklebiter and it looked like Dyer was gonna cry. Never talked about Fuentes again, despite Fuentes being a major driver of false religio. Performative basedboy with a makeover.
>>539594039This guy is such a chode not even a chud.
>>539594906Hes never been gangstalked hes not a victim shut the fuck up faggot. He just says that shit so you'll donate to him. He went altright and lost hollywood jobs which is obvious now hes a grifting faggot trying to do what jay does but doesnt actually have a topic to specialize in so he collects shekels from the dumbest people online by spouting schizo moon is fake gay shit.
the number of vpn kikes in this thread is all i need to know jay is over the target
>>539595186Spic Fuentes deserves all the hate that can be heaped upon him.
>>539594949Sure but you are going to have to do inherently anti christian things to run a state thats why the church has no interest in being the state. Thats why everytime someone tries to hide behind their church when they get political it blows up in their face. I'll say it again... Jesus is for your personal salvation he isnt going to solve your political problems
>>539594618>Owen Benjaminhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YsRqOsrBt0
based true jews connaisseurhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AcayfIoUFU
>>539594622>People still talk about this fucking wigger? This dude is such old news.He was just on Tucker Carlson's show
>>539595404No you don't? Explain how Christian states existed for centuries then, faggot.>Jesus isn't going to solve your political problemsA sovereign God certainly can. But so much of Christian morality revolves around being a proactive member of your community and protecting your neighbors (which includes your racial kinsmen).New-fangled heretical ideas are what changed all this. It's not hard-coded into Christianity.
>>539595777>the CIA spook is trying to revive time-wasting alt-right figures now that he's been booted out of the Mainstream Right for taking the j-pillImagine my motherfucking shock.
>>539594622Orthodox do not kow tow to feminism and anti-racism. If there were ever a vestige of white power left, it would be orthodoxy
>>539595865and who isn't a time waster to you?
>>539594039He's a glowie. He's a glowie of some intel (glowie) org of the US federal ZOG. And, potentially, the russian foreign ops as well, potentially the SVR. He's created many retards to convert to the muscovite church, which created force multipliers for soviet revanchism towards Ukraine, and for duganism and multipolarity. Since the US ZOG actually WANTS multipolarity, at least SOME faction does. The faction who outsourced all of our industry to china. Potentially the whole ZOG. Occasionally, however, there's been glimmers of real nationalism, such as when we cucked china in venesuela. But at any rate. This faction wanted the conservatards in this country to support russia in the 3 day SMO, so's to set up the kosher dialectic of NAFO style libtards supporting Ukraine, and conservatards/unz review type, would be intellectuals, supporting the so called "russian federation" (moscow). otherwise, NOBODY would have supported the 3 day SMO, in the west, and political and military pressure could have been applied so strongly and swiftly, that the war would have ended after a month. So, ALL sides, at the top, have engineered the longest war possible, to maximize deaths on both sides. And jay dyer has been key in this. As have the CIA niggers like Cucker Tarlson. And some faction of the CIA itself. While another faction of the CIA helps Ukraine. This is the side that's more BASED and RED PILLED, but only on the surface, most likely, because the it's all controlled by the same entity/ies at the very top.
>>539594622You know, I have Calvinism because I think it's stupid theology. But I feel like Calvinists are trying their best. With these Orthobros, they're just carnal pharisees, and in many cases almost certainly demon possessed.
>>539595865lol. fair point, but seems based to me. also, same question as this anon >>539595939
>>539596511Hate*
>>539594039"debates" are dumb and gay
>>539595236He's a failed stand-up comic. I got banned from his YT comment section because I alluded to the JQ.
>>539596511>carnal phariseesWhat do you mean by this?
>>539596712Go interact with some in their tranny discord. They act like godless faggots. It's insane.
>>539596801Or is it Godless*
>>539596643It's all point-scoring and gotchas! Usually disingenuous af, too. It's the midwit nerds' equivalent of a football match. Root for your team, bro!
>>539595939In the current movement? Nobody. PF and Rousseau have the most potential but all he and his cronies care about is making money running an MLM for white dudes.No one is coming to save you or us and most White people are too brainwashed with atomization to collectivize. Save yourself and the people near you that will listen and don't waste time on anyone who doesn't want to make the neccessary sacrifices to survive. They are weak and will only drag you down with them.
>>539596801lol. i'll pass on the discord. but do you have any arguments against dyer himself?
>>539594039Dyer's an absolute master of debating within in the Abrahamic framework. Problem is that unless he can drag his opponent within those confines he becomes a fool, arguing about shadow's on the wall in Plato's cave.
>>539596931>PF and Rousseau never heard of either of these glowies. Got any more info on them? Don't tell me you are going to shill some obvious fedslop
>>539594786You didn't read jew boi. Here>christkike jewish turd eating religious faggot
>>539597100heh, master debater
Nevermind, just googled and rosseau is the leader of patriot frontFFS can you guys at least TRY to form better ops than this? It's getting pathetic
>>539597180I wish most of these movements were glowie ops, it would excuse a lot of their incompetence in a way that didn't drive me to drink.
>>539594839>you people, our peoplepls kys.
>>539594565Jay Dyer covers some important topics fairly well. His problem is that he has a hard time recalling the specific arguments and evidence of the sources he references, so he’s less compelling than he could be. Also he often fails to back his points with specific sources at all. He gets really defensive sometimes, I think as a result. You can tell he’s done his homework, just not great recall ability. Less importantly, he’s nowhere near as funny as he thinks he is. He’s got to let that shit go. Owen Benjamin also has some bad takes, but he’s a pro and would annihilate Dyer in a comedy format. Anyway, they’re both forces for good. No one bats 1000.
>>539594039>Muh heckin' based normie ortho-bro
>>539594618As I said, he eat turd, jewish turd out of rabbi's asshole because he gets paid. He glows brighter than anal lighthouse.
>>539597057Yeah, his refutation of Faith Alone relies on all sides getting the Epistle to the Romans wrong. Romans is about physical salvation, not spiritual salvation. Everyone screws this up and Dyer exploits it. Also, he has a pretty sus/low iq view of what "Ethnic Israel" is.
>>539597294>>539597227got so triggered you replied to two of my posts back to back? lmao, i dont even need to insult people like you, carry on
>>539597239lol
>>539594039Apologetics is filled with such greasy scum bags. You can always smell the ego and "I need to win and come off smart at all costs" attitude permeating from these supposed "Christians", and Gay Dyer is the supreme gaylord in chief for it. They aren't complete fucking morons like Muslim and Mormon apologists, but they're getting people to act the wrong way in accordance with Christian principles. Debatebro culture needs to die.
>>539597441>Debatebro culture needs to die.This./thread
>>539597359expand on these points? or have any links?
>>539597359The Council of Trent explicitly refutes "faith alone" as the correct interpretation of paul's epistles. So Jay's position relies on church council, certainly not on "all sides getting it wrong". There was only one protestant reformation that got it wrong because it went against The Council of Trent. Under what authority do protestants claim to supersede church councils? And which ones are okay to ignore?
Jay Dyer is just an Alan Watt ripoff and has a shit personality.
>>539597057 His entire TAG thing is complete nonsense. It's a bastardization of 'I think therefore I am'. 'I' can be presupposed for that statement, the same cannot be said for God presupposing 2+2=4. >>539597441Also, thisThese people are almost as annoying as furries were.
>>539597441you sound like a butthurt fag. Imagine going into a thread to decry someone as a debate bro, and using slimy tactics and ad homs as arguments against them. You hypocrite
>>539597558Alan Watt never proselytized for a religion, though.
>>539597591Refute what I said as wrong. Apologetics is an accessory for masturbation of the ego for these debatebros, because if Dyer even understood the principles of the religion in the first place, he wouldn't be using sophistry and screeching about fallacies every two seconds. Their excuse is "Bro, TRUE CHRISTIANS need to be DOGMATIC in their arguments", which just means "I can be an insufferable ass and look superior". It's no different from a cult leader using a religion as a means to an end.
>>539596360Wow, this Jay Dyer sounds based. I'll have to check him out. Thanks anon.
>>539594039Oh boy! Another flavor of the month ecleb that came out of nowhere and totally owns the generic opposition in meaningless online debates and appearances on cringy podcasts.
>>539594039>refuses to recommended OCA churches because they hurt his feefees onceLol Dyers unwarranted moon size ego will be he downfall>never lost a debateRage quitting is still losing.
>>539594039No offense but if dyer’s on Tucker that just means tuckers struggling to find quality “A” level guests nowadays
>>539597740your using arguments as an accessory for masturbation to argue against debatebros. You lost a debate and got butthurt and are now acting the part of the hypocrite. You're even arguing with me right now you nigger.
>>539597537His trap is to get them to admit that they (pro-Faith Alone) believe Romans 4:3 is the moment Abraham received spiritual salvation. That is a trap. Under a Faith Alone paradigm Abraham was obviously saved the moment he believed and left Ur (Acts 7:3). The "Romans Road" that is very popular is actually just detrimental and sloppy. Salvation should be explained using the whole Bible or at least the Gospels, not a single Epistle. As for the 2nd point, Dyer believes "Ethnic Israel" is about 15 million people, atheist or religious, who directly descend from Jacob. This is sus/low IQ because even an atheist Fellah/Palestinian fits this description, which raises it much higher than 15 million. And, again, if your sole metric is biological descent, then it goes far beyond Fellahs and Kikes. Steven Anderson popularized this fact (although he probably stole it).
>>539597752>flavor of the month eclebHe's been around for a while. He's been debating for 20+ years and has been a lifelong scholar. He debated Dillahunty, Jean-François, and Nick Fuentes along many others.
>>539597740Chriggers are braindeadTry telling one paul is a false apostle and false prophet who contradicts himself, jesus, and the OT while satisfying warnings and prophecies about a false prophet from the tribe of benjamin, no one ever seeing jesus in a desert, the deceit of the elect, etcChristian intellect surfaces as thus>the bible is the bible and the church said the bible is the bible because the church said the bible is the bible and if the church says the bible god agrees the bible is the bible because the church is god is the church because the pope is friends with god and king james was magical bless the saints hail maryJews are right to want to behead these actual fucking idiots
>>539597387as long as you faggot keep worshiping like idiots i will call u out for being jewish turd eating faggot.
>>539597548If you think Roman Catholicism was based despite all those degenerate "popes" before the 15th century, you're just an npc.
>>539594188>saar, I don't wanna repent, saar
>>539597856>shilling steven anderson>claiming to use the whole Bible while ignoring James 2:14you suck
>>539597548>the church said because the church said and its true because the church is the church who are you to doubt the church the church is the church is god is the churchJews are right to want to behead you statue worshiping halfwitsYou’re just dumber talmudists with bonus idolatry
>>539597568Elaborate on the TAG critique?
>>539597980I deeply dislike Steven Anderson and have exposed him for years. I can also explain James 2 for you, but you'll have to demonstrate youre not swine I shouldnt case pearls in front of.
>>539597934never said that. Good thing you strawmanned my position and didn't answer my question though. Under WHAT AUTHORITY does the protestant reformation reinterprate 1500 years of early church history? You realize protestants are the ONLY christians that believe in faith alone correct?
>>539597892>He debated idiots.Oh wow so do I everyday on /pol/. Debates dont achieve anything. Some nobody debater is just that. An asshole with an opinion.
>>539597838I'm pointing out arrogance in a fake ass Christian, not trying to glorify my ego. It's funny, because I remember a Kiwifarms "Christian" using a similar rebuttal when he was acting like a tard with "Dude, you must be a lolcow to shit on Kiwifarms". You're doing the same thing with "Dude, you must have lost a debate against him or something". You don't even need apologetics from someone like Dyer in the first place, faith and relationship in Christ can give you the answers you need. Apologetics is not inherently useless in of itself, but with bad faith actors like Dyer, it becomes something far more conniving and mistrustworthy.
>>539598033Okay so personal interpretation then? So I can just personally interpret the way I want and still call you wrong yes?
>>539598061>do what these propagandized statue worshiping retards do!The church is invalidPaul was a false prophet and false apostleA liar, who contradicted the source of his self alleged divine mission thriceYou have no coherent response to thisMost of the new testament is entirely made upIt does not matter what a false faith did earlier
>>539594622Yeah good. Fuck Calvin and Calvinism. At least L*ther pretended to still be apostolic, Calvin just started making shit up to justify satanic self worship
>>539598151St. Paul the based? No Christian believes he was a subversive.
>>539598100>you need a magic man in a funny hat to read the word of god for you>god needs a lawyer to explain what his rules really are>stop asking questions>the faith is what the church says it is or i can redefine 2+2 to 5Chriggers are braindead idolaters with an incoherent self contradictory false faith loaded with cope about metaphors and divine inspiration
>>539598222You worship a fucking statue of a dead rabbiTHOUSHALTNOTMAKEAGRAVENIMAGE
>>539598151this is 100% a jew. Here's my response, which is the last one you get>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ63gTEoG-M
>>539598276Prove I worship a statue.
>>539598234>I hate individualism but I would never ever ever never put anything above my personal interpretation Solipsism
>>539598234>>you need a magic man in a funny hat to read the word of god for youSee, protestantism never gets off the ground with this statement. How many flavors of protestantism are there? Did they all "get it right?" cuz they read muh bible?Why would the Apostles interpretation of the Bible not be good enough for you? Do you not believe they were gifted by the Holy Spirit to establish the Church? So you are saying the Holy Spirit is in error?
>>539598335>unrelated nonsenseEverything from paul contradicts everything else. paul himself contradicts paul. Acts 9:7: “The men who were traveling with him stood speechless, for they heard the voice but could see no one.”Acts 22:9: “My companions saw the light but did not hear the voice of the one who spoke to me.“Remove this man from your faithNow you can not eat porkNow you must follow the mosaic lawNow it is for israelites only, not africansNow there is no vatican or great russian templeNow there are no saintsYour entire religion is made up. You pretend to be a jew but you are a pagan.
>>539597856>Salvation should be explained using the whole Bible or at least the Gospels, not a single EpistleWhat part does Dyer not acknowledge?On point 2 you may be right.
I don't hate the guy but he seems like a small town girl trying to make in the big city. I guess, it's hard to make a living as a "philosopher". Basically he's an intellectual prostitute that has been pole dancing for tip money. Get naked Jay Dyer, show me what you really think!
>>539594039Judaizer Dyer is a retarded kikeslave who thinks the Earth is 6000 years old and that Adam and Eve were real people who talked to a snake.
>>539598041 Sure, I'll try to keep it as brief as possible as conversations about shit like this tends to go on forever. tAG fails in essence because it's a literal non-argument that goes as follows.>Transcendetals exist>Transcendentals have to originate or be grounded from where>God is an explanation for transcendentals >Therefore God existsOr to explain it another way>The existence of God is a necessity for logic and reason to exist. As an argument against an atheist, it's foundationally weak. If I'm an atheist and you're a Christian, we're already operating under the assumption that you believe that God is an omnipotent entity and the creator of all things including logic. The problem is you actually need to prove he exists, and number two you actually need to prove that his existence for logic and reason to operate in the first place. TAG never actually accomplishes this because it's tries to use the same logic as 'I think therefore I am' in a context where that logic does not fit.>I think therefore I am. If you accept that I think or that I do anything like typing this message to you, you must logically also accept that I exist in the first place. >2+2=4 Simple mathematical logic, God is not presumed or presupposed anywhere, multiple cultures with multiple gods or different gods have come to this conclusion without the need of a god. Structural engineering does not figure god into any building plans, electrical engineers don't think about God when engineering CPUs, etc etc.
>>539598401>god wanted them to establish the papacy actuallyCALL NO ONE ON EARTH FATHER FOR ONE IS YOUR FATHERThere is no intermediary between man and God. Ever. Your religion is false. It was true once. Through paul it was twisted into a bureaucratic, rabbinical form of government. Dumber talmudists who worship idols and engage in ludicrous pilpul.
>>539598651>The existence of God is a necessity for logic and reason to existI don't get it. That sounds like a wobbely argument of sorts drawn from a faulty premise.
>>539598651>That his existence is necessary for logic and reason to operate in the first place. Forgot to put two words there lmao
>>539598587sealed unto the day of redemption.Ephesians 4:30 KJV He hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.Hebrews 13:5 KJVhath delivered us...hath translated us...Colossians 1:13 KJV
>>539596643They are, in fact. Ultimately. But rhetorical ability and understanding things like informal logic have immense utility value in the human system in this material realm, and in varying other realms, as well, such as particular non-physical realms, outside of the local/relativistic spacetime of the universe. Jay has some skill in this arena. He humiliated JF garapy in a debate on the existence of God, in which the famous episode took place, where JF called a cantaloupe, a >quantaloopHe obliterated him. And showed his deftness of mind is at a higher level than JF's. However, Jay had the truth on his side, which is, that there is in fact a God, specifically, the Christian Godhead. But he used a very specific argument, successfully. He also lost more than one debate. And he's wrong about so called "orthodoxy". Certainly, the FSB/GRU controlled organized crime/espionage org of the muscovites' church isn't the one true church. Though, I wouldn't say they are all 100% damned to hell, with total certitude. There's a chance one of them might be legit saved. There's an awful lot of idolatry, and apparent vane repetition involved, and seeming heathenism of varying other kinds.He's wrong about kallam cosmological arguments, though. There's ways to construct cogent and valid arguments for these classes as well. And there's sufficient/valid arguments from contingency, as well. Copleston destroyed Russel with one. Total humiliation.Ultimately, dyer is not very, generally, relatively to a highly intelligent human, intelligent himself, but more intelligent that JF. Relative to the rest of the population, they are both above average. But both are dummies in their own way, And Jay is def a glowie/shill, as explained here>>539596360His ways are grievous, duplicitous, nefarious, ect. His agenda is one of evil, and treachery. But yes, debating is vanity, in many ways, and maybe, ultimately. The will must be imposed, without debate, in an utterly authoritative way
>>539594188Demon-possessed jeets
>>539594039GAY LIAR THE IMAGINARY JEWISH DEMON YHWH WORSHIPPER, ABRAHAMOKEK SHABBOS GOY
>>539598880the orthodox church is not controlled by the kremlin/fsb this is retarded
>>539594541Adam Green calls him Rabbi Dyer.
>>539598651You sound correct on this
>>539594949Bullshit, people bend their theology to fit their politics
>>539596360>He's a glowie. He's a glowie of some intel (glowie) org of the US federal ZOG. And, potentially, the russian foreign ops as well, potentially the SVR. He's created many retards to convert to the muscovite church, which created force multipliers for soviet revanchism towards Ukraine, and for duganismi feel this too. bro shopped around different religions like he was at a pic n save, and decided curiously on russian protestantism. now his audience uses terms like "papist", so you know they are just low church low class redneck hicks, or something...not that there is anything wrong with redneck hicks, but jay's audience uses the same language, and it's telling. like, you can sprinkle yourself in russian glacier water, and breathe in some russian kgb ortho smoke, and you can try to one true high church it up all you want, but you're still a russian protestant spreading peasant kgb ideology to americans. also, the fucking algo really clings to this shit. remember how shapiro and rogan had the algo really tuned up even if you didn't want it? like, click on one vid on accident and you get a week of their vids all of a sudden? same effect with the dyer ortho vids. i clicked on one since the topic was of similar interest but didn't realize it was ortho stuff. now i got nothing but ortho crap being suggested. fucking KGB over at youtube or something man, fuck that shit.
>>539595912You retard
>>539599297>church in pakistan stays in pakistani fail to see the problem with this. Orthodox mission churches don't promote and fund migration unlike catholics, protestants, and jews. Most orthodox mission churches maintain the ethnic makeup of the native population
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>>539597856>Nazi flag can only speak in semitic mythology
>>539598723 That's a pretty good summary of what it is. Fun fact, even if you accepted that a supernatural or an omipotent entity is necessary to ground logic and reason you could theoretically just pick any god yor gods you wanted to and substitute him or them in there. It's literal nonsense, but if pushed on this the response is 'Well how do you know logic and reasoning are correct?'. As if you really need more to ground them beyond the successes we have as a result of applied logic. If you say you don't know in response to the question, then they say you have no epistemology and have nothing to base your world view on. It's absolutely retarded. It would be like if you walked into physics class one day and the professor asked the class a really complicated cutting edge question about validating methodology that no one's figured out yet. He asks you, you don't know the answer. You are chastised for this and told you don't know shit. He asks the dumbest nigger in class and the nigger goes >THOMAS JEFFERSON WAS BORN IN 1955 SUCKA At which point the class erupts with cheers and he is made valedictorian of the class because he had an answer, regardless of how retarded it was lmao
>>539599461Feel free to stop reposting my memes if you hate me so much.
>>539598327
>>539599632I dont need to personally stop being an iconoclast to weapon viral kike actions against millions of Catholic Zionists.
>>539599698weaponise*
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>>539599051Glad to know that they are retarded by design
>>539598854has anyone made this argument to dyer?response to>>539597980?
>>539598234Found the fuckin kikelSlovak poster is also starting to seem very sus and jewish too.
>>539594039Gay Cryer
>>539598151Jesus Christ was so much TRVTH that even the top jews were seeing the light and following Christ, not some stinky fuck rabbi running a coin clipping op. That was 2026 years ago.Still, to this day, you are mad Paul was a smarter jew than you and followed Christ. You're a sad fuck hahaahahah.
>>539599599Witnessed.I don't hate you, just find it weirdly hypocritical. Do you believe that Nazis were christian?
>>539599397oh, got it. i thought it was something about their ideology or arguments
>>539600099That as well
>>539599070>>539599755>wao is this religion that has its roots in the old testament... larping as the old testament? must be da jooz! just ignore the pogroms for 1000 years sweetie!
>>539600088Of course they were Christian. Some were confused and said some heretical things, 1% or less were pagans, but the rest were likely within the confines of Protestantism or Catholicism.
>>539599582I suppose. Personally I just think logic is logic because it's logical based upon the fabric of how things seem to work within the framework of life as we know it. Besides he doesn't seem to properly define his terms in the first place. What's god even supposed to be (according to himself)?
>>539594039>posts an advertisement thread to a paid video>reaches bump limit without any moderation whatsoeverlmao what are you faggot janny trannies doing? Ban random organic threads and leave this LITERAL AD up wtf?
>>539600133a good point
>>539600530>the spectator>the debater>the final wordlol really should've named it the master debater. What am I getting for 15 dollarinos a month? Is his wife going to show her tits or something?
>>539594622Are you Redeemed Zoomer? I saw your videos on how the Presbyterians are actually kind of based even though 97% of their ministers believe children should be sterilized for trans acceptance.
>>539599051It is. It's an organized crime/espionage network as well. The same thing he (rightly) points out that the CIA uses over seas churches for, the kremlin glowies use the russian so called "orthodox" church for outside of russia. And the russian church is a forward deployed vehicle for the duganist "russian world" ideology, soviet revanchism, multipolarism, bolshevism, nazbolism, ect. The church creates human force multiplier units for moscow's agenda. It's retarded for Anglo Saxon protestants/baptists to LARP as muscovites, by the way. This shows identity confusion, and xenophilia, as well, additionally. There's nothing wrong with inter-Aryan tribal appreciation of other Aryan peoples/cultures, but trying to become a muscovite, as an Anglo Saxon burger, is the thing that's retarded. And so, unless you want further ridicule for these russian orthodox convert sorts, I would suggest you let it go. The russian church is for muscovite ethnics, who live in the principality of Muscovy, which is currently called "the russian federation". And, the ones in the occupied areas of Ukraine, must be holocausted/pogrommed/ethnically cleansed, ect, from their transgressive movements beyond the 1991 border order. And, the converts to the russian church who are living in the USA, who are white, must be "de-converted", through varying means, up to and including violent force, up to and including lethal force. The covenant people of America/the USA are those descended from the Puritan/separatists, who became congregationalists, baptists, and other Protestant denominations. Dyer is an English surname. He's from these same people and church. He is leading those sorts of people into the confusion of the russian church, just like a CIA nigger WOULD be doing. Protestant glow nigger/secret society stooge traitors have done some of the most egregious damage to this country. And dyer is just this sort. No doubt, he's a glowie AND a secret society stooge.
>>539599070Well, Adam (((Greene))) . . .
Amazing how the anti-Christ threads have just exploded over the last few months.Really makes you think.
>>539600380>Personally I just think logic is logic because it's logical based upon the fabric of how things seem to work within the framework of life as we know it. Good enough for me as well as most people.>What's god even supposed to be (according to himself)? The abrahamic God that made salvation for the Jews, then sent his human (not human) son (but it also him, along with the father and a holy ghost) to the earth to die for everyone's sins and so they could join the Orthodox church specifically (so not the Catholic church, or the coptic church, or the protestant churches, etc etc).
>>539600944Don't think he's a glowie even though he might think he is when he's more like an useful idiot in the classical sense. Not that he's dumb necessarily, just not as intelligent as he himself seems to believe. He wants to make living and stuff and the orthodox stuff is just branding because it actually tracked when his catholicism didn't. It's christianity but not quite so it doesn't seem to have the baggage to the average 13 year old.
>>539600249It's Europeans larping as Bronze Age Jews.
>>539600249>Pogrom>IT'S ANUDAH SHOAH!Yeah, I totally believe pogroms killed 6 gorilion
>>539600290
>>539597295>the thing created by white americans after victory in ww2 is how the world would be if the white americans had lost ww2What level of retardation do you arrive at to believe something this stupid?
>>539599070He's a Kike that is a shill for ancient Kikes
>>539598175>Calvinism>satanic self-worship>the religion out of all Christianities that teaches you to have the least confidence in yourselfThe effects of Arminian Propaganda are astounding, really.
>>539601048I dunno, isn't that also kind of wobbly? Not talking about you but their notion of the legitimacy of the church when it's based upon like one maybe two bible lines that are highly subjective. Like as in build me a church upon this rock, or whatever it was. I don't understand why I need to subscribe to some bureaucratic organization for salvation in order to gain the eternal favor of the dude who seemed kind of mad at that exact same thing.
>>539599755Neo-Jews
>>539599394Orthodox Churches don't give a fuck about any White people who aren't Slavs or Greeks. There's a reason all the WASP OrthoBros fell off or don't attend a church. They realized>oh wait the group of racists i am joining are actually racist, so that means i can't earn my way into their community
Based Dyer enjoyer but did you read Tragedy & Hope tho? go be Fuentes somewhere else. Both of them glows but Dyer actually reads book at least. Owen is not even worth mentioning.>>539594039>>539597295>>539594243>>539594934>>539596360Anyways, I was looking through the archives I've found some posts you might be interested in. This anon had the right ideas like yourshttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/539447099/#539457056
>>539600808No. Funnily enough, I did join his Discord a long time ago. I actually spoke to him. One time I asked him about Stonewall Jackson. He literally said.>"who?"This faggot child didn't know who probably the most famous Calvinist in all of American history was.Someone finally told him that it was a Southern Civil War general and he said>"i don't know anything about him but as for what happened to Georgia they deserved it"So this faggot literally praised Anti-White Genocide committed by the Fed on behalf of niggers to one of the most Christian parts of the entire country, to this day. So I called him a disgrace to American Presbyterianism and a fraud if for no other reason than he advocates people stay with the PCUSA, even though it teaches literal heresy.His, "Reconquista," Movement went literally nowhere. They all got blackballed from the PCUSA and even the PCA because his dumb naive ass really thinks Right-wingers are gonna be allowed to do the, "Long march through the institutions."
>>539601650>Tragedy & Hopeqrd?
>>539600944all of the ills that befell the US were the results of efforts from the protestant-freemason axisl; not from orthodoxy. You deflect and scapegoat orthodoxy because you know protestantism is at its root, an masonic kike glow op and you can't hide from it
>>539601782He used to recommend that book on his stream like everyday a few years ago. Would still recommend. Great book
>>539601782Just sounds cool if you mention it a lot of times. Kinda like dude, what about Kant's categorical imperative!? Emmanuel Kant, the categorical imperative. Imperative, a priori Kant. It's categorical but also imperative.
>>539601871oh, interesting>>539601946lol
>>539601400You're actually retarded. Like 90% of his streams are dedicated to exposing Jews, their Western enablers, and Rabbis.
>>539601871>>539601782tragedy and hope is an elite level textbook used in ivy league colleges to ingrain would-be statesman in the politics of the day - e.g. the handbook the global elite kikes use to indoctrinate our politicians and wealthy founding families into doing their bidding. It's ironic that our nation's most well educated, most well endowned, should be kikeslaves unknowingly
>>539602066>>539602066>You're actually retarded. Like 90% of his streams are dedicated to exposing Jews, their Western enablers, and Rabbis.Take Jay Dyer's cock out of your mouth. He litterally called the massacre of ancient Greek by fanatical Maccabean Kikes a good thing because they were degenerate. Only a mind raped fucking faggot Kike slave like you would defend those evil faggot Jews.
>>539602184care to post source of this claim?What is your religion?
>>539600133Except Paul was all for renewing the mind and discerning things? Who is this retard and why should anyone take him seriously?
>>539602092>>539601946>>539601782>>539601667>>539602066I don't deny that. But still worth a look inside their mentality., If you were actually shill you wouldn't even recommend people to read it cause it just becomes obvious in the middle of the book it's only for elite eyes only. It's great reference point when you even want to peek at entry level glownigger stuff isI was looking through the archives I've found some posts you might be interested in. This anon had the right ideas like yourshttps://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/539447099/#539457056
>>539594039The "trinity" is a mind-control technique. Jay should know this from his claimed [re]search.https://mindcontrolpublishing.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/Confusion-Patterns_-A-Guide-to-Influence-and-Hypnosis.pdf
>>539602351i wasnt calling him a shill. it's a good look at the paradigmatic level politics that perpetuate in ivy league schools and how our right and left dynamic are both kike controlled from the outset. Liberalisms foundations need to be understood before they can be torn down. Jay does an excellent job at explaining the current world order and who is actually in control
>>539601667He's also ethnically Jewish and he mentions it in a video lol
>>539602462Based post. Couldn't have said it better. You wouldn't even mention that book. Dyer is sold out but only because he doesn't want to be found out in a sewer somewhere yet and if not there's no reason to be even mentioning it
>>539601667Georgia was occupied by Anglican church though... just saying. Anglican church was basically considered enemy of American colony back then, literally worse than niggers
>>539594039this nigga still cant put his argument into a syllogism
>>539603088Source?
>>539594039>3h old thread>179 replies >Maximum Kike, Pagan and Mudslide butthurt Nice
>>539594039Worship a Jewish messiah goy, go to church goy, you’re spiritually Jewish, you’re the real Jews
>>539603641It’s almost like a majority of people know he’s a kosher retard shilling Judaism for the gentiles
>>539603392The Roll-Up Strategy: The invasion of Georgia was intended to be the first stepping stone. Once Georgia was secured, the British planned to use it as a base to roll northward, capturing South Carolina (which led to the fall of Charleston in 1780), North Carolina, and Virginia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_theater_of_the_American_Revolutionary_War#:~:text=The%20British%20began%20to%20implement%20their%20%22Southern,under%20Horatio%20Gates%20at%20Charleston%20and%20Camden.If a foreign force occupies Georgia, we're cut in half in west / east
>>539603756>Muh majorityVery weak fallacy, now go suck more baby penis Rabbi.
>>539603868I thought you were talking about their influence at the time of the Civil War.
>>539594039He’s not only gay, but ALSO retarded https://youtu.be/64zxd0GUIy8?is=dgRDZChKhR4qYKsr
>>539594188based jeet
>>539598063Schopenhauer described this
>>539594934There's nothing logical about worshiping a magic rabbi
>>539594188Say hi to Vishnu for me in Hell faggot.
>>539601667>So this faggot literally praised Anti-White Genocide committed by the Fed on behalf of niggers to one of the most Christian parts of the entire country, to this day.No surprise, he's racially a jew. Jews will only ever work in their racial interests, even him becoming Presbyterian is a means to advance jewish interests
E-celeb general?
>>539594618He's so arrogant and unbearable.
>>539597748here>>539596360I have to clarify. Upon further review. I renounce this portion>This is the side that's more BASED and RED PILLED, but only on the surface, most likely, because the it's all controlled by the same entity/ies at the very top.It's not correct. It's hard to ever say any element of the CIA is BASED, even just on principle, since they are responsible for such a monumental magnitude of evil, including satanic cult serial killings of sadistic natures, and instructing in the act of torture. And they use psych warfare and behavioral modification manipulatory tactics, techniques/procedures on the people of the land. And I DON'T like it. They ruin the world of human life on the planet, in many ways. They're also anti-racists, as a policy, and so, they are therefore anti-white. However, they ARE, very technically, helping the Ukrainians in defending their land. It should also be stated that the muscovites have analogue evil glowie orgs for everything we have. So, that's the way it goes. Russia fucked up. They are the villains, objectively, on the surface level. Even with all of the flaws on the western side. The russians transgressed that 1991 border order. Feb 2014, in the crimea. They shouldn't have done that. They ruined the world. Brought about a satanic mean spiritedness, and a sadistic spirit. Absolute calamity. The gates of hell were opened up.
>>539604051I’m Jewish but you’re simping for a guy who believes in a Jewish messiah and shills the Hebrew bible as something other than fairytales. “If you don’t worship a Jewish messiah you’re Jewish”-Christ brain
>>539605015You funny, btw are you a demigod?
>>539604051Another majority for you;There are more black Christians in Africa than there are Americans in America. Abrahmaics are a booming thriving business as long as you’re black or brown.
>>539605145>He thinks nigger Syncretism is christian
>>539605106Make your point shlomo I’m not reading all of that
>>539594039>muh winning debatehow to spot a brainlet
>>539605201>Illiterate kike is illiterate
>paying to watch debatebros
>>539605186“Not real Christians”So we currently have someone living in Israel. Beating back how Jewish Christianity is.You boys get it yet?
>>539594188
>>539605280If I pray to both the nigger mud god and Muhammad,am I Muslim?If I believe in the ANR and Christ,am I Christian?
Do I follow this guy since everything he talks about is what interests me most in the world or do I avoid since he may be a RT-promoting Russian shill? Advice?
>>539604391interesting video
>>539602250Literally from Jay Dyer's faggot Kike slave mouth. He called Greeks degenerate pagans as a justification for massacring them during the Macabean revolt. It was in answer to why Jesus celebrated Channukah. Kike slave fallacy.My religion is anti-Abrahamicism
>>539596643most online debates yes, because they're not actual dialectic, when I watched dyer he was always a retard and it wasn't real dialectic
>>539605426Do you have the link to where Jay said it?
>>539605370They’re both sects of Judaism. You know this. Yeshua or Mohammad. Take your pick. Same intellectual cul de sac and slave mentality. There’s no distinction in my mind
>>539600290What about those quotes from was it Himmler or someone else, something akin to treating Christianity as a tool instead of casting it away for the plebs to not get angry with them? Since you say they were mostly Christian, do you have long form resource like a book to recommend?
>>539594039>>539597293This whole thread is just OP drinking problem confession lolTheophagy is an abhorrent and barbaric leftover animistic belief. Anyone who believes they can transform something in the literal blood and flesh of God and should drink and eat it is gay and retarded.
>>539594541>Dyer is a jew loving retardI haven't listened to him in years, but I did notice years ago that he shied away from the JQ and banned anyone who even alluded to it. Either he's a crypto jew or he's terrified of pissing off the jews.
>>539605619Volkisch spirit on twitter. Entire account is dedicated to the nsdaps writings on returning the country to Germanic paganism and how Jewish Christianity is
>>539605513Here you go;https://x.com/seethroughit2/status/2050519437703307563?s=20
>>539605616>Kike>Dnc
>>539605457Dialectic only works when you're discussing issues with friends and allies. They ask penetrating questions and offer rigorous but fair critiques to help you spot weaknesses in your argument and help you to clarify your position. Enemies are just looking to score points and impress the audience by any means necessary. That's sophistry, not dialectic.
>>539605619I believe all anti-Catholic quotes have been bastardized to imply that they are anti-Christian. Based on the totality of the evidence, including Gudrun Himmler's statements about her dad, all those quotes were simply anti-Catholic. As far as books, I'd recommend Mein Kampf chapter 5 (Stalag Edition), Positive Christianity in the Third Reich by Cajus Fabricius, and Manner im den Papst by Joseph Goebbels, the last shows that they were firmly anti-Catholic (and therefore anti-Postive Christianity) as early as 1937.
>>539605656He's a Kike slave that believes ancient jews and their evil yahweh are good.
>>539602250https://x.com/seethroughit2/status/2050519437703307563?s=20
>>539605015>I'm Jewish We all knew Rabbi >who believes in a Jewish messiahYes, we Israel now G.>shills the Hebrew bible as something other than fairytales. Septuagint and the New Testament, don't play dumber than you are.>"If you fuck up the covenant with God, blame it on the new Israel."Follow Christ or keep coping eternal wanderer.>>539605145>Another majority for you; Still a fallacy my G.
>>539605908thanks!
>>539594039I enjoyed the Tucker discussion where he was talking about science fiction and space exploration. I don't believe he ever mentioned that one of the pioneers of space exploration was a Thelemite occultist:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_ParsonsThe stuff they were discussing about Arthur C Clarke was very interesting as well. I was always a huge Clarke fan because of how he could predictive his work was.
>>539605832>>539605944Thanks, perhaps my confusion about their stance would be smaller after these.
>>539606135>SeptuagintMy nigga
>>539606166The Church of Freedom by Wolf Meyer-Erlach is also a good read and shows they revered the Old Testament.
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>>539606227Based post fren, Christ is King.
