How do Holocaust deniers cope with Himmler's Posen speech? I'd expect them to just call it fake, because it's unassailable evidence, but most just insinuate it's mistranslated and Himmler was speaking metaphorically or about deportations which makes no sense.>inb4 ausrotten/AusrottungThey'll argue it meant "uprooting (Jews from power)" or that they changed the definition of the entire word in the German language, but this is stupid. It does mean extermination and not uproot which is entwurzeln and so do its equivalents in other Germanic languages like the Dutch equivalent uitroeien and Swedish utrotning and it was listed as extermination in centuries old German dictionaries like the Deutsches Wörterbuch. This is a moot point anyway since he explicitly clarifies by "auszurotten" he means "umzubringen", which means only one thing and that is killing.>Ich hielt mich nämlich nicht für berechtigt, die Männer auszurotten- sprich also, umzubringen oder umbringen zu lassen - und die Rächer in Gestalt der Kinder für unsere Söhne und Enkel groß werden zu lassen>I did not consider myself entitled to exterminate (auszurotten) the men - that is, to kill (umzubringen) them or have them killed (umbringen zu lassen) - and allow the avengers in the form of children grow up for our sons and grandsonsBut that doesn't explain the rest of the speech. Himmler says a lot more on the topic which can be interpreted in one way, an ongoing extermination of Jews.>the need for secrecy just like the Night of the Long Knives>it will be a page of glory in German history never to be written>the audience will know what it's like to see hundreds of corpses lying side by side>they had the obligation and the moral right to "kill this people that wanted to kill us">the public wouldn't accept it because they all think they know one good Jew so it must be hidden>it's good that the Jews are gone now because it would hinder the war effort if they were still around
>>5396059331. It never happened 2. They deserved it
>>539605933>Extermination>From germanyDidn't happen. 271k at best. They deserved it.
>>539605933No one cares, kike lover, Jews lie therefore the Holocaust, at best, is doubtful in the numbers deadOdd how kike.lovers never want to talk about the Armenian genocide, the Holodomor, nor how millions of previous residents of the Palestine Mandate disappeared when the kikes took over in 1947
I don't deny something that was justified
>>539606003Inside you are two wolves...
>>539605933The Holocaust unironically is the most well-documented genocide in history. The only people denying it are trolls and retards.
>>539606548The national operations of the great purge are actually
>>539605933The Posen speech was given in October 1943, a mere 1.5 years before the end of the war.I'm sure Himmler meant to say exterminate the jews, but that doesn't make it official policy, let alone practice.How do holocaust apologists square the fact that>there were only six 'death camps ' out of the countless camps.>All death camps were in soviet liberated territories, and claimed, without evidence, by the soviets.>Despite the Germans in general and Nazis especially being known for their meticulous planning, and book keeping, not a single document pertaining to the extermination of jews in camps exists?Sorry, best I can do is 270k, mostly from disease.
>>539605933>The most documented crime in history!>Only has a couple of lines in an obscure speech to back up the claimWhy do holocaust believers have to dig into forgotten speeches and interpret "euphemisms" to prove something that should be overwhelmingly obvious?
>>539606664Einsatzgruppen documented around a million dead jews
>>539605933>claim 6 million dead>the only evidence is a line in a speechLMAO
>>539605933>it's unassailable evidenceThat one prominent figure wanted to do it and advocated for it. Clearly, he felt the need to try to persuade his Party comrades that merely rounding them up and/or expelling them was insufficient. Given that the war ended a year and a half later, no orders to follow through on his proposal were ever documented, and all of the actual physical evidence lines up with starvation and disease rather than an extermination program, it seems his suggestion came late and never caught on.
>>539605933>I did not consider myself entitled to exterminate (auszurotten) the menSo in his own words he didn't exterminate them. Are you even fully reading what you are quoting?
>>539605933I'm still waiting for actual forensic evidence showing that millions of jews were exterminated in the camps.
>>539605933>Himmler was speaking metaphorically or about deportations which makes no sense.The haavara agreement disproves the holocaust myth. The US military never witnessed a single extermination camp.
>>539607523>.... AND leave the children to...Are you even fully reading what you are partially quoting?
what even are the official numbers? I know the 6 million number everyone quotes, but that's supposed to be just jews, who were a minority of the people killed. I've heard everything from 11 to 18 milion.
>>539606548>The Holocaust >the most well-documented genocide in historyMuh masturbation chairsMuh looney toons shotgunsMuh wooden doorsMuh mom turned into a soapMuh dad turned into a lampshadeMuh holocoastersMuh gas chamber moonwalks
>>539605933Regardless of whether or not it happened how how big or small the number is,The Nazis failed. Hitler failed. Himmler failed.The Jewish people won. They turned Britain and the United States and the world upon the Germans, and since then, they have used these other nations to found the state of Israel, from which they have oppressed every other people.They have banned discussion about Nazis in all places but the anonymous dregs of society.For decades they convinced both sides of the political spectrum to give them everything and, in return, give nothing.Europe lost. The Jewish people won. You are acting as their agent to spread their oppression. For the first time in all of history, the British Isles have become black and brown and "diasporaed" as the Jewish people have always wanted, and so has the rest of Europe, and so is the United States, and soon they'll come for Japan, Korea. China is their final boss. They won't stop until everything is a uniform brown sludge.And you are here, 1PBTID, defending them.Cocksucker.
>>539606548So we'll documented that they ignore tens of thousands of medical records showing they were providing them with medical care to keep them healthy.So we'll documented that they can't find a single order to actually kill anyone.So we'll documented that they can't figure out why they'd punish a camp officer for cruelty if the goal was to kill them all.So we'll documented that they can't figure out why they'd kill them with goofy rube goldberg contraptions instead of just fucking shooting them.So we'll documented that they can't even explain the mechanism employed to turn anti-lice cyanide into human-killing gas.So we'll documented that they can't explain why Americans never found a death camp. Only Russians seemed to discover them despite the USA liberating dozens of camps.So we'll documented that even mainstream historians believe in what they call "functionalism" - meaning that they think the holocaust "just kinda happened" rather than being ordered from on high.Great documentation you got there.
>>539605933The Haavara Agreement exists. Same with the Balfour Declaration. Read, nigger.
>>539608166I have no fucking clue why my phone autocorrected to we'll.Oh we'll.
>>539605933how do holocaust conspiracy theorists cope with the fact it never happened, but the jews did declare against Germany in 1933 even though the Germans had an agreement with Jews to help them leave Europe for Palestine?
>>539605933We're living in a holocaust right now, holocaust of white people and it's a lot more sinister than whatever WW2 was
>>539605933How do Holocaust-confirmers cope with there being no physical evidence and not a single autopsy report that confirms gassing, mister 1pbtid?
>>539608369>South KoreaWould he ever reply anyway tho?
>>539608184Whoops
>>539606003>tfw the first post is the best post
>>539608243No big deal. Well forgive you for it.
typical wartime speech. you can find that in the other camp.
>inb4 ausrotten/AusrottungSomeone here a number of years ago had a copy of something like a 1936 or 39 english to german (or vice versa) dictionary and it cleary had ausrotten or ung in it. It was to uproot or get rid of, I forgot the exact language. It also said exterminate I think, so it wasn't a full Truther win, but it's all I needed personally. Even if Himmler wanted to kill a bunch, Hitler repeatedly intervened and stopped killings and constantly didn't want to hear about camp stuff, it's well documented, its just the guy who translated it from original German documents is David Irving and the Jewish press hates him and won't talk about him.So:1. It meant uproot, which happened.2. It didn't mean exterminate as a whole, because there's an endless supply of oh poor me Jews who survived3. Himmler and Hitler were two different person with 2 different views of the future4. This solves the Posen speech. I don't need to read your OP statement beyond the 1st Ausrotten paragraph.
>>539607801he's talking in Konjunktiv IImaybe learn a mature language first before outing yourself a clown
>>539605933If there was a real Holocaust then why are Jewish vermin running my country and banks?
>>539605933>Holocaust denierswhat if I'm holocaust revisionist?I mean c'mon man:>magical round 6.000.000 number of jewish victims>not so many names on lists>even less bodies found>non kosher research puts guesstimates lower and lower with time>if you count jews in Poland as Poles and add Polish victims, it was Polish holocaust really
>>539605933>we were persecuted 80 years agoThere's no point in discussing the subject. It doesn't justify Israel's disregard for international humanitarian law.
>>539605933Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence
>>539605933>or that they changed the definition of the entire word in the German language,they probably did. i seem to remember they changed the definition of one german word after ww2 to try and argue the holocaust was real, was it this one?Anyways I stopped reading there. The idea that these psychopaths would change the definition of a word to gaslight people is not far fetched at all, they changed the definition of the word vaccine around covid because their MRNA injections didnt fit under the original definition.
they're retarded and incorious so they never actually bother learning any history
>>539605933They don't genuinely engage, most of them are just brown retards who cannot deal withthe existence of actual non-meme genocide.Holocaust denial is just a way for them to pretend their strength in numbers strategy is unassailable, rather than a ticking timebomb.
