Is there a reason why Putin just doesn't leave Ukraine? Is all this shit worth it?
>>539611479I dont get the NAFO tard logic. so because a couple warehouses with plastic crap that arent related to any military activity burn down this must mean Russia is losing?
Sunk cost fallacy
>>539611479sunken cost fallacy
>>539611479And how is this helping Ukraine defend the front line exactly?
>>539611568fpbp
>>539611479>Is there a reason why Putin just doesn't leave Ukraine?he doesn't want to give Crimea back, Ukraine will follow Russia home and take Crimea back by force if Russia goes home
>>539611479If you are not from russia or ukraine you would not understand. It is a civil war more than anything.The real enemy is not the nazis becauae they are just dumb, uneducated cattle. The real enemy is the gays who need to be exterminated.
>>539611568Anon do you think this shit is gonna stop any time soon? Is Ukraine worth having your capital constantly bombed?How the fuck does Russia even expect to hold Ukraine and not suffer Afghanistan 3.0?
>>539611479Because he's winning the war. Ukraine basically has given up on actually winning militarily so they are focusing all their efforts in terror campaigns
>>539611568>so because a couple warehouses with plastic crap that arent related to any military activity burn down this must mean Russia is losing?I mean.. if its because Ukraine has worked their way down the whole priority list of targets and are legit hitting this tier of targets, then yes, it can signal Russia is in dire straits
>>539611568you have to strike the pidor where it hurts most, nigger
>>539611758if those toys didn't give you cancer before they will now
The sodomites need to be crushed and btfo. Do not underestimate the gays, like the hashashin were gays. They all need to be butchered
>>539611714Apparently they think it is. Imagine if Mexico were to invade and take over New Mexico and a third of Texas and due to the support they'd get from some other countries, you wouldn't be able to take the land back. You'd get stuck in a drone warfare quagmire. Would you give up though? No. You'd just continue on, whatever the cost. Fuck it.
>>539611479his fee fees are hurt.
>>539611758Boomer-tier AI sloppagandaChrist, this is who they have to appeal to?
>>539611714>How the fuck does Russia even expect to hold Ukraineits really easy because all the Ukrainians will be dead so who would resist?>>539611744the hit anything but important military targets.iskanders are still launching.>>539611758they just get them delivered from china and wait a couple days longer for their dildo.how is this gonna make the Russian army retreat from the Donbass and Crimea?
>>539611758So that's why the smoke rising from the warehouses was so thick...
>>539611885>SAAR IS AI
>>539611665Don't think about it. Everyone has gone beyond retarded. All of my friends and acquaintances want to have nuclear arsenal to launch it into ruslandia. The afterthought of disproportional retaliation strike does not cross their minds.Everyone is retarded. putin is the biggest retard if them all simply because he started this retarded war and now can't get out because of what another anon said - sunken cost.Everything became fucking retarded after 2012. Everything.
>>539611943>wait a couple days longer>doesn’t understand the mindset of the consoomer
>>539612192The russia has no working nukes.
>>539612384and if russia had working nukes they still wouldn't have any troops trained or equipped for nuclear battlefield conditions
Putin wanted to be a conquer like Stalin or Peter the Great so badly that's the problem with dictators they have too big a ego.
>>539612192Just stay out of the frontlines, ensouled individual
>>539611568uhh yeah uhhmmputler uhmmm banan uhhh monke ??uhhh you lose uhhhh and also are ugly *post pow execution gore*
>>539611479>pls stop when winning war against mehormussy status?
>>539611479It's soviet mentality. You need to be the hardest guy in room to lead, if you show weakness then they will fuck you. He literally has no possibility to end this war on his term so he is waiting for miracle. He was also completely unprepared for resistance. You can see it by freezing his assets around the world, quick mobilization in 2022 to stop Ukrainians from overrunning his position. He has expected that he will score quick victory in 2022, Germans will negotiate with USA in his stead due to muh gas and he will be seen as guy who has restored Soviet Union and is respected around the world. Instead he needs to watch other KGB fucktards just waiting to depose him.
>>539611714>having your capital constantly bombed?that would actually be a improvement desu
>>539611714Are you really that much retarded? Russia is protecting Russian people in Donbas from hohol nazis, and will do whatever it takes with full nation support. If hohols wanted to avoid war they shouldn't have performed a coup, started oppressing Russian people, started to use military against those people first, and ignored all the negotiations for 10 years - it's really elementary. And current blatant terrorism just proves even more that hohols are rabid nazis and have to be eradicated - it's exactly the opposite of what you should do if you want to finish the war.
>>539611479>"Oh, noes. My heckin warehousarinos. Guess I just have to accept letting the trannies who've repeatedly called for my country's destruction to park their nukes next door and let them subvert my country."
I really want to an hero because I'm bored to fuck with life, yet at the same time I'm dying to see how this tard war finishes. It's annoying as piss that'll likely be waiting a while.
>>539612582What's the correlation, tranny?
>>539611479is there a reason why we're giving Ukraine the locations of targets near civilians, when did we have a vote on that?
>>539611568he didn't say russia was winninghe said this is costing russia a lot. Is this victory/draw worth the cost? It seems to have backfired.
>>539612821>the trannies who've repeatedly called for my country's destructionwho?
>>539612896tell me xister
What do you think the likely outcome of this war is? I thought Ukraine would be crushed quickly but it seems like it could drag on for a decade with millions dead now. Ukraine seems to stubborn to give up the oblast that Russia wanted and Russia will not let Ukraine have themeither way this war is a big lost for ethnic slavs lots of dead that will be replaced with Indians and Africans what a waste
Russia has no choice. If the war ends, Ukraine joins NATO then it's ogre for them. Letting it continue is preferable.
>>539612384then why are you so scared to stop us from raping the ukranny? come on, do something about it
>>539611723>so they are focusing all their efforts in terror campaigns>Putin doesn't bomb civilians in Ukraine.
>>539611568ermm uhhhhterrorist attacks will scare Russian civilians into ousting Putin instead of glassing Ukraineit will cost money to fix burning plastic makes a nice propaganda photoOf course those targets are given by American and EU intelligence, they don't give a shit. When Ukrainian civil infra gets hit twice as hard in retaliation, and more people die, they won't care about dead Ukrainians, their purpose will be fulfilled.
>>539611568Copey copey rope-a-dopey
>>539611568lol fuck off Zigger, if Iran was attacking Amazon warehouses in the US you would call it the greatest victory ever.
>>539612757Try harder pidor
>>539612757>Russia is protecting Russian people in Donbas from hohol nazisthis is b8 right?
>>539611568why is russia buying and redistributing plastic crapif this is winning then what would losing look like
>>539611479>Is there a reason why Putin just doesn't leave Ukraine? Is all this shit worth it?Leaving Ukraine now would make him a weak leader.Can you guess what happens to weak leaders in Russia, especially if their weakness has led to loss of billions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of Russian lives?He needs at least some kind of a win to stay alive, not to mention in power
>>539613066>most oblivious nafoid>>539613127Russia and Ukraine each have their nominal "objectives", but these ultimately don't matter. The actual reason this zogwar is being forced along by the West is for the sake of testing out its AI and matériel. So as long Slav genocide is profitable, (((techfags))) will keep their war going. They'll expand it too, probably to the Baltics and maybe other former Warsaw Pact countries. All the better to deplete the restive native population with docile third-worlders.
>>539612757Explain to me your argument without the use of "nazi" plz :Every retarded use "nazi", "commie", "jews" or "reptilian" when they have no argument.>"A" and "B" were in the same empire 45 years ago, then this empire collapsed (like every empires in history), A and B got separated.>"A" became closer politically and economically to some countries at west.>"B" wants to reunite it's previous empire, but it's leader is a little retarded or has to much hubris.>"A" is closer to accept to be part of a west military coalition (NATO).>"B" sees this coalition as a threat, it's retarded leader decides to invade "A", political motivation : "We need to reunite the great empire".That's it, no "nazi" here, use your brain plz.
>>539611714unfortunately for Russia the ability to bomb capitals is about to be a thing Ukraine can do, too.what then?someone just need to put a bullet in Putin's head and all of this would be over real quick.
>>539611479Putin is an dictator, and all he really cares about is staying in power. He doesn't give a shit about the economy. He lives in personal luxury and lets the government deal with that economical stuff.The war gives him a perfect excuse to crush the opposition and censor people. The problems caused by the war are slowly piling up, but he will keep it going as long as it helps him stay in power.Also, don't forget that Putin is getting old, and people's worst traits tend to get worse with age. He's probably not the same cold and calculating dictator he used to be. These days, he seems to be driven more by retarted stubbornness and his own personal issues.
>>539613361The very first thing the new hohol general chief has just said in his first interview was to call all Donbasians (and Russians in general) untermensh, and executed a strike on kids resort in ex-Ukrainian region, killing dozen of kids. I'd really like to see how you faggot say that hohols are not nazis to the face of their relatives.>>539613965You can't comprehend even a single sentence you are replying to? Ok, once again: if you want to change something in your country - you do elections, don't do an armed coup. If you still did an armed coup and half population of your country won't accept it - you don't start oppressing them and sending military to kill them, you either try to negotiate with them or let them go.
>>539614513There's no use arguing with nafoids, Sviatoslav. Understand that sport has become the Western religion. That sport mentality is then carried over into other spheres, including politics and current affairs. Your average Western retard will simp over any nazi and war criminal if the (((media))) states they play for Team Globohomo.Hope you're OK out there, friend. This century sucks.
>>539614513How can you argue with "democratic election" when the guy himself doesn't follow the rules... except the one he decided himself ?
>>539614513proofs?
>>539614513>>539614734Kek at this obvious samefagging
>>539614841He literally has no opponents. Western countries have old money dynasties, which have been in the game for centuries, but Russia, the Ukraine, and all the rest ex-USSR countries had all their wealth allocated to random oligarchs which happened to be on top at the moment USSR collapsed. And Russia managed to unite all the oligarchs into one group, while the Ukraine hasn't. That's why hohols have tried to impeach every single one of their presidents, while Russians are absolutely satisfied with the competent leader.
No more shipping from Maersk to Odessa? Insignificant, nothing to worry about for Ukraine. Wildberries warehouse got attacked? Russia is collapsing tomorrow.
>>539611479Demographic collapse in Russia. If they don't start seizing territory now they won't have an opportunity in the future. It's literally their last chance to be a world power.
>>539615125Just google his interview and yesterdays strike at Kirillovka.
>>539613036>he said this is costing russia a lotIt's costing Wildberries a lot, and wildberries has a lot of money.I understand what you fully support terrorism, if it against Russia, but at least, say it's straight, like "yes, I am a globohomo pidor, and I support terrorism, if it's against russians". No need to hide behind some higher goals.
>>539615264>while Russians are absolutely satisfied with the competent leader.Judging if someone is competent or not have to follow some rules :Liberty of expression to freely criticizes your leaders.If you cant criticize the guys in power, or having the possibility to freely vote for other political groups, you are in a dictatorial regime and your arguments are blinded by propaganda. Also lel at "competent leader" when you see this :>>539611479>>539613274To be continued...
>>539611479Their economy is fucked if they stop waging war
>>539615915Once again: there are none, zero, zip, zilch, nada opponents to vote for. Populist bloggers which have zero domestic power behind them and are openly sponsored by foreign states are not opponents, they are instigators. And it's absolutely allowed to criticize your leader freely, if you do it official way on registered meetings or debates.
>>539615181Kek at this guy for trying to gaslight American readers.
>>539616344>sponsored by foreign states are not opponents, they are instigatorsEvery autocrats in all history say that when they are criticize.>allowed to criticize your leader freely, if you do it official way on registered meetings or debates.You know that if those rules are decided by the guys in power, your argument is invalid ?
>>539611479you think the west will stop after he leaves Ukraine?Russia hasn't moved an inch and have already lost way to many people holding a frontline to just give it up, nothing will recover their spend ammunition and army after this war, better to end it in a position of strenght where you get the to call the terms and conditions of surrender than to be subjected to the same kind of ritualistic humiliation germany was put throughRussia will hold, sooner or later another front will blow up in Taiwan
>>539615522It’s not about hurting wildberries. It’s about hurting all of the small and medium sized businesses that rely on wildberries which do not have a lot of money. A few days before the attacks started, wildberries changed their terms of service to not pay the sellers, so all of those businesses lost most to all of their inventory and their distribution methods for nothing in return
>>539613337De ce ataca Ucraina Romania cu drone P1-SUN?
>>539611479Ukranny terrorism is the reason Russia started the SMO.Putler has been completely vindicated! To the last hohol, Putler!
>>539611568>I dont get the NAFO tard logic. so because a couple warehouses with plastic crap that aren't related to any military activity burn down this must mean Russia is losing?This is what hohol jews and Nafo fags have been spamming for a couple of days on pol. They burned down several oil tankers for social media points, because the smoke looks nice. then they burned several warehouses of cheapo chink plastic crap . Whomever planned this social media shtik is retarded, as now hohols would lose real gas stations. And real warehouses . And real manufacturing facilities. I am expecting that hunger and no gas is coming up for hohols.,
>>539613438>why is russia buying and redistributing plastic crap Retard . Women all over the world are buying billions of $ of plastic crap from China. >surprise even in Russia women buy from aliexpress
>>539616344and this is why russians will always be a race of slaves. Your leader is an fucking retard bald midget and russians will be like> xaxaxaxaxa take that gay west. We protect our peopel from HATO bombs, so we can bomb themtruly a nation cockolds
they never needed those berries
>>539613438>why is russia buying and redistributing plastic crapBecause people have money to spare. None of this is a basic necessity, it's literally junk that people buy to fill their empty lives.
>>539620041All those cities will be rebuilt once russia had control over it
>>539617740>we don't do that in AMERICAretard
>>539616344Assassinating or gulaging anyone with a chance to win an election or with enough power to challenge him in general is the only reason putin's stayed in power so long.Recent examples, navalny, prigozhin, girkin.
>>539620086And the villages too. It will amazing and all rebuilt.
>>539619775De ce ataca Ucraina Romania cu drone P1-SUN?
>>539611479Ah yes I'm sure the CIA niggers will just leave Russia alone if they just pull out of Ukraine.Surely the glowies won't continue their campaign to break apart Russia like they've been doing for the last 25 years....
>>539611943>the hit anything but important military targets.Objectively low tier cope
>>539611479no banan, no peace
>>539611863>whatever the costnukes save lives
>>539620086And they will be filled with churkas because Russia scared off all the residents and they have nothing to come back to after their homes were turned to dust.
>>539620129Why, has Putin not improved Russia?
>>539613335Nigger level hick. No surprise. All your women are on meth and suck nigger dick.Let me help you. Russia and Ukraine border each other. Iran is a quarter of a world away from America. Yes, it's more impressive if Iran can hit an Amazon warehouse in Wisconsin than if Canada can do it 4 years into a war where they have the entire Western world supporting them with literally every resource they have besides boots on the ground and nuclear weapons.
>>539620260It's debatable, especially for the average russian but ultimately irrelevant.Those three certainly believed they could have done better so how do you know, if they never get a chance to show it?
>>539612757Lmao. If Ukraine planned on genociding all the Russians in Ukraine they should be thankful Russia did their job for them. Russia's war has done nothing but terrorize "ethnic Russians" for 12 years and caused their numbers to dwindle into the Donbas being a depopulated rubble pile of 2 million boomers. Meanwhile, all the remaining Ukrainian cities that weren't turned to rubble have been successfully derussified, even Kharkiv speaks Ukrainian now, Kyiv used to be a Russian speaking city until 2022.
>>539620198source
>>539611479He would have to admit that his little history paper was retarded nonsense. Which his ego won't allow. And then they'd kill him for looking weak so it's a bad idea anyway.Then again they might kill him soon anyway if he doesn't die of natural causes, so this stupid shit can finally end.
>>539614269So you think drones hitting the Kremlin is going to end with Russia throwing their hands up and saying you got us guys, you developed attack drones faster than we were able to conquer Ukraine, we will withdraw from everything besides Crimea now, sorry for the trouble!Interesting opinion.
>>539620496Wait until you find out how completely shitfucked Russia was before Putin came along, if you think it's debatable you have zero knowledge of the subject.
>>539611863That explains why Ukraine doesn't give up, their land was taken over like America's in this scenario. But Russia can just fuck off home whenever they feel like it like Mexico can in your little story.
>>539616613why do people make these retarded gotchas as if the west is not just as repressive? you get gulaged for posting immigration is too high, Palestinians shouldn't be exterminated or that a war that started with 70% approval rating was for the sole benefit of Israel.
>>539620700I said it was ultimately irrelevant. Unless you can prove those three would what done worse than putin, your argument falls completely flat.
Yes.Putin is a Jewish oligarch. Zelensky is a Jewsih actor put into power by a Jewish oligarch. They are both working to kill as many Ukrainian men as possible. They also send Ukrainian women into prostitution and pornography. Once you understand their motive you know exactly when the war will be over.
>>539620767Uhh yeah I think improving Russia might be relevant to "why putin stayed in power so long" little buddy
>>539612757>>539620570I like the angle we care about russians meanwhile in Russia chechens are allowed to etnically cleanse 90% russian Grozny to 0% russian Grozny. And its not even limited to their republic chechens beat and terrorise russians deep in siberia a mayor was beaten due to talking bad about them. I belive its better to be a russian in ukraine than a russian in russia.
>>539620260Russia was so fucked that they could have put some guy in a coma in charge and things would have gotten better during his term.
>>539611625Stinking cock literally
>>539620837Go back to my previous post and read it entirely. I won't bother further otherwise.
>>539611568Russia has failed to capture their own much smaller and weaker satellite for five years going. You tell me who's losing.
I honestly lost all sympathy I had for the Russian side when Putin rejected a peace offer that allowed him to lock in some serious territorial gains. At that point I don't care about the Donbass shit anymore because this is now an entirely new war. That serves absolutely no purpose. People are dying on both sides and it needs to stop. And as much as I hate jewlensky Ukraine is doing what anyone would be doing at this point. Blowing as much shit up as possible for negotiating points for when things inevitably come back to the diplomatic table.
>>539611568Russia is loosing because in ukraine Sirsky got replaced due to complains from poeple and soldiers meanwhile in russia after failed coup putin doubled down on retarded but loyal army bureaucrats that just dump soldiers with no brain. Its like gengis khan vs china meritocracy vs cripling army so you could keep power.
>>539611479Pidorussia must be cleansed from vatnik scum, you can't go forward with so many retarded pidors roaming around.
>>539615377Just balkanize Russia harder and move on.
>>539611479Tell AI to do its truck windows better
Russians don't rely on logic they just throw bodies at the problem until they get what they want
>>539620894>the only reason putin's stayed in power so long>the ONLY REASONHello retard
>>539621317It is normal for Russians to do that.
>>539611863>fuck it, all my 20-40 year old males HAVE to die. fuck it bro. Slav stratagem really is something.
>>539621325Again, it's ultimately irrelevant if no one with a potential chance of winning and making things even better than what putin did is allowed to stay alive or free to present himself at an election.
>>539621433Uhh yeah I think improving Russia might be relevant to "why putin stayed in power so long" little buddy
>>539621433Several opponents had up to 15% of the vote in elections. What are you smoking? When you think russia who do you think comes to mind? Let me guess....putin right?
>>539621480Well, if putin is so sure he's done a good job, there is no reason to assassinate or gulag them now, is there? Whether it's foreign agents, agitators or otherwise.
>>539621762Maybe their significant others should stop appearing in Germany the day after they are arrested or have issues?
>>539621317Sounds like what you are doing in iran.
>>539621817How's that relevant? Also pretty sure that neither prigozhin nor girkin qualify for whatever point you're trying to make.
>>539611479it is 100% worth it anonif texas decided to split off and join mexico trump would be bussing down zogbots to there to get blown up and torn to pieces
its weird how much ukraine supporters like to brag about attacking civilians.
>>539621762Who assassinates or gulags them?
>>539621973pff, Trump is raping and killing children and EU calls him daddy. They never cared
>>539622007Make your point yourself, I don't care for rethorical questions.
>>539621886>Arrested>SIGNIFICANT OTHER appears in nati headquarters day afterGee bud not sure. Prigo isn't a politician anyways nor is girkin. Nobody sided with them. Nobody.
>>539611479Yes, OP. The reason is actually pretty simple. Basic sunk cost fallacy. Not just by him, but by the entire nation. Imagine how you would feel if you were a Russian who sacrificed your son for this war only to have it not even gain anything. It would be political suicide for the ruling faction.
>>539611568these retards live in an alternate reality where disproportionality doesn't mean anything.
>>539611479He's just going to wait until Iran nukes them.
>>539622123You're painting a picture of Thanos Putin who is so powerful he just does whatever he wants and kills anyone who disagrees.Meanwhile in reality all his power comes from other people and their perception that Putin is saving Russia, from a foreign influence which wishes to break her up and destroy her, is a big part of the reason they go along with it.
>>539611479The whole thing is a whole-of-society live-fire training exercise, which originally started as an intended wake-up call for the West to arm up and stop being so complacent, at which it failed, and as a preparation for war with the chinks, at which it succeeded very well.If any 'country' ever needed lebensraum, it is chinkland, and they've been tugging their tiny ji-jis for decades over how cool it would be if they owned Siberia, but now Russia has the strongest land army in the world, with its citizens becoming accustomed to minimal hardship, and now the slopeheads are no longer looking northward.In a nutshell
>>539611714Putin has been very careful to leave Kiev's power and water supplies alone, protecting the civilians. It only takes 3 days for the average person to die from lack of water (see also silly, overthinking nazis), which requires power to access. It's amazing that you people are so slow. Are you Indian?
>>539611479He's bought into the ramblings of a modern day suit wearing Rasputin who believes such nonsense as Real Politik being some hard set rule.
>>539622248I said to make a point, not dropping turdquotes and expecting me to do the work of making something logical out of it.Girkin did get into politics in 2023. He was gulaged for "extremism" for essentially saying putin's shit at war.I figure this is important, so I'll add to the list of political opponents in russia that were removed one way or another from politics.Boris Nemtsov, killed in the middle of moscow.Ilya Yashin, imprisoned and had his russian nationality removed.Mikhail Kasyanov, candidacy rejected for the presidential election.Alexei Navalny, gulaged and died in prison.>>539622476Certainly seems to be the case. New laws have kept being added since he came to power to get rid of political opponents and the fsb and gru do a good job if needed. Due to the political structure of russia, no governemental organ have independence or any real counterpowers against the president.
>>539623028Gee I wonder why the fsb and gru do it?
>>539623115See.>>539622123
>>539623163See >>539622476
>>539623289Who are these people and how do you know what they think? I certainly hope you won't pretend it's the will of the people because I doubt anybody could pretend russia is democratic. It also goes back to one of my previous point, they cannot know someone else won't do a better job if said person is never given the chance. You will also have to explain why putin's vision of what russia should be is the only one that has been allowed in essentially 20 years. If russia can't exist without putin, how does russia survive beyond his death?
>>539611479Yes, of course. Burned dildos are a fair price for dismantling the ukrainian statehood and buck breaking NATO.
>>539611479Zero-Sum Escalation Trap
>>539623568Hello retardYou're the one pretending to know what they think by asserting "THE ONLY REASON" Putin stays in power is because he assassinates and gulags people.Are you sure some people don't want him to stay in power retard-kun?Are you sure some of them don't think he's saving Russia?
