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If you believe the flat Earth you arent White
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>>539628145
you can tell that dude smart just by looking at him
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>>539629373
that's yakub, he created white people.
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>>539629452
Respect
This next song is dedicated to yakub
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>>539629515
I CAN MAKE THEM WHYYYTEEER
https://youtu.be/h1BP5wWf4Lc?si=WHiKnu2V543N6Ona
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>>539628145
1. eratosthenes never existed
2. the experiment works the exact same on a flat earth with a local sun
3. there are zero experiments to prove earth is moving, spinning, curving, wobbling or tilted
4. the only thing you have ever seen with your own eyes is a flat horizon
5. the only thing you have ever felt with your own body is a motionless earth

its not about race, it's about being brainwashed by jews. if you believe a big bang created existence 14 billion years ago and you exist because a slime evolved into a fish which evolved into a monkey which evolved into homo sapiens, then you have fallen for jewish mysticism/brainwashing that demoralizes you and hides god from you

the whole reason for the globe lie is to deny the fact that earth is special. they deny that it's a special creation to deny that there is a Creator who made it. its called the copernican principle.

before 400 years ago, everyone from peasants to kings KNEW they were the motionless center of the universe. the sky does the same thing every night. the same stars have spun over your head every night for your entire life. the same stars will be in the same place tomorrow at this time (-4 minutes). the astrological maps from thousands of years ago have the exact same constellations in the exact same placements as we continue to see today. the sky doesn't change; they are lying to you about being a meaningless speck of dust flying through infinite nothingness
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>>539630977
of course i make a post about how its not about race but i get granted a nigga ID

but in reality it's space-enjoyers and globe-believers that worship niggers like neil degrasse tyson, whereas i can see him for what he is: a dirty masonic stinky black
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>>539630977
>its not about race, it's about being brainwashed by jews. if you believe a big bang created existence 14 billion years ago and you exist because a slime evolved into a fish which evolved into a monkey which evolved into homo sapiens, then you have fallen for jewish mysticism/brainwashing that demoralizes you and hides god from you
>youve fallen to jewish mysticisms because you trust an Aryan scientist over my jewish book
ok
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>white men shouldn't question 'le science'
You aren't whites. whites seek the truth, you just accept and believe what you are told
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>>539631084
>youve fallen to jewish mysticisms because you trust an Aryan scientist over my jewish book

lol explain which "aryan scientist" you think is trustworthy again?

and scripture is not "a book", its 66+ books written by over 40 authors, and Christ is the first person to name the jew. in fact, Christ HATED jews and was violently opposed to their creation and existence. thats why they killed him
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The earth isn't flat, I'll tell you that much.

But what if I told you....the ether was real?
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>>539631084
and for the record, you should not trust ANYBODY blindly, you should trust YOURSELF after YOU have done the diligent research to see whether or not a topic is worth pursuing. when it comes to scripture, i wasnt interested either.. UNTIL i evaluated modern cosmology and heliocentrism and realized it's total pseudoscience. its retarded to accept the worldview provided by 5 freemasons (copernicus, galileo, newton, euler, kepler)

>>539631272
sorry but aether cosmology is tied to a motionless earth, but you are correct that we exist within an aether. it was commonly known by everybody, especially the based germans which alll rejected einstein. they called it electrical field theory and einstein was rejected from germany for replacing the electrical background medium with a "nothingness "background medium. they LITERALLY dismissed einstein for being a jewish mysticist

https://www.gsjournal.net/Science-Journals/Communications-Relativity%20Theory/Download/8680
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>>539630977
>there are zero experiments to prove earth is moving, spinning, curving, wobbling or tilted

liar

your education system failed you syrupbro
Go ask a jeet engineer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkKPEyrD_90
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jewish globalists mad
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>>539631573
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkKPEyrD_90
this is not an experiment that proves earth is moving, spinning, curving, wobbling or tilted, this is a video of the heliocentric model lol

you are just uneducated and don't understand what a model does. i can give you a model for how fast santa needs to fly to deliver your presents. and if you wake up with presents under your tree, does it mean my model is correct?

the sky does the same thing. OVER AND OVER. AND OVER. AND OVER. the same stars are in the same place every night. if you make a model that "predicts" where they will be tomorrow, it doesn't make it true. your entire heliocentric model could have its sizes and distances halved and it would make the exact same predictions with the same accuracy. they reverse engineered it from reality.

by your own logic, the entire world used the ptolemaic model which assumes earth is completely motionless. and it was used for 1600 years because there are no issues with it. to this day it can still be used to accurately predict day/night times accurate to the minute, it can predict season changes, eclipse times, the way the luminaries move, etc. because THE SKY DOES THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER.

a model is not "proof" of anything, it's just something you can use to describe the way the lights in the sky move above your head. multiple models can be correct at the exact same time
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>>539630977
>1. eratosthenes never existed
>2. the experiment works the exact same on a flat earth with a local sun
Point 2 makes point 1 irrelevant if you accept the experiment works.
>3. there are zero experiments to prove earth is moving, spinning, curving, wobbling or tilted
Foucault's pendulum
>4. the only thing you have ever seen with your own eyes is a flat horizon
I have seen at least 1 thing that is not a flat horizon. Likely many more.
>5. the only thing you have ever felt with your own body is a motionless earth
I have felt the touch of a woman as well, which you implicitly admit you have not.
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>>539631969
>Point 2 makes point 1 irrelevant if you accept the experiment works
no it doesn't, eratosthenes never existed but the experiment they claim he invented "thousands of years ago" works the exact same on a flat earth with a local sun, these are two independent statements entirely

>Foucault's pendulum
first of all, all the foucault pendulums in universities and churches have electric motors and need to be restarted every 2-3 days due to air resistance stopping them. if the movement of earth made pendulums move there would never be a stationary pendulum on earth. its just a nonsense shit you get off of google, that isn't a real experiment at all actually.

for example if i claim "earth has an electric field" and you wanted me to prove it, we can literally use tools to measure ambient electricity around us and you could prove for yourself that earths electric field goes up by 100v per meter. you can test this for yourself. saying shit like "foucault pendulum" is not an experiment or a tool, it's just a pendulum. with an electric motor. that gets restarted regularly. because its not moving due to the movement of earth at all

>I have seen at least 1 thing that is not a flat horizon. Likely many more.

the ONLY THING you have EVER seen with your own eyes is a flat horizon, because the flat horizon is caused by your eye. you have never been to an elevation where earth appears to be a curving ball under you. the only thing you see from a beach or from a plane or from a mountain is that the horizon rise up to eye level and is flat. its called the HORIZON because its a HORIZONTAL line
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>>539631716
show me a flat earth model that i can use to predict star locations from different points on earth at specific times

no such model exists, nor can it exist because its simply impossible to fit what we can observe into a flatearth model.

24 hour antarctic sun alone should have made all flerfs realize how dumb they are, but there are of course many other examples
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>>539632211
there are literally muiltiple flat earth models that can predict the way the stars move, the stars are in the same place every night. go play around with flat earth models in stellarium if you are so interested. the entire world used the ptolemy model for 1600 years which assumes earth is completely motionless and the universe revolves around us. so you can completely remove the "earth flying at 450,000 mph through outer space" and still perfectly predict the stars move to this day, you could use it right now if you want. yes, you can bring up how the ptolemaic model is not flat earth but its motionless earth and that's way more important than the shape. because you can easily debunk the 3959 mile radius sphere claim for yourself, we are not on a sphere that is the size they claim because we see too far

>no such model exists, nor can it exist because its simply impossible to fit what we can observe into a flatearth model.

strawman + lie

>24 hour antarctic sun alone should have made all flerfs realize how dumb they are, but there are of course many other examples

24h sun was a psyop from a literal who "will duffy" and the only "flat earthers" were FEIC shills like jeranism and witsit. jeranism is the famous retard they hired to pretend to be a flat earther for the netflix hit piece "beyond the curve", where he famously does the "flat earth experiment that proves its a globe". they hire these flat earthers via the FEIC which was designed to smear the image of flat earth. the 24h sun has tons of issues, for example 7 out of the 8 livestreams are yet to be released, the footage we do have shows wildly different sun behavior, there's issues with shadows, lack of breath, footprints, etc. the fact you say "flerf" shows me you're a retard who watches mctroon and "professor" dave and all those comical retards

also, switzerland is the den of evil in europe so it wouldnt surprise me if you are a mason
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>>539632154
>no it doesn't
Yes it does. Eratosthenes's existence has nothing to do with the validity of the experiment so who cares if he existed or not?
>there would never be a stationary pendulum on earth.
That's literally not how the experiment is even claimed to work.
>the ONLY THING you have EVER seen with your own eyes is a flat horizon
I currently see text on a screen. Your assertion is false
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>>539632411
>who cares if he existed or not?
because he is commonly brought up as some genius that "prove the shape of the earth thousands of years ago", which is a common lie retards like you openly believe and repeat. this sets people up into thinking that "they've known its a globe for thousands of years", even though its a recent invention as recent as 400 years ago when the 5 masons (copernicus, euler, kepler, galileo, copernicus) rewrote all the earth lore to the heliocentric model. for 1600 years every peasant and every king knew they were on a motionless earth because its what your body feels and sees every night

>That's literally not how the experiment is even claimed to work.
foucault pendulum is not an experiment lol
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>>539631030
>waaa the random number generator gave me an appropriate ID waaaa
Leafs should go the fuck back to india.
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>>539632483
it was just an observation, you are offended likely because you are a nigger. and trust me, i hate jeets way more than you do because i've seen them rape my country. laugh all you want, in a few years they will be all over america alongside all the niggers and muslims already there
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>>539632461
>because he is commonly brought up as
Blah blah blah. I don't care. Don't be people-brained. It's low IQ.
>foucault pendulum is not an experiment lol
It literally is.
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>>539632521
Today, on Delusional Gloating...
Anyways, jews are jeets.
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>>539632579
>Don't be people-brained. It's low IQ.
shut up you retarded nigger, YOU are the one bringing up eratosthenes when he never existed. and his experiment is completely worthless because it works the exact same on the model its allegedly debunking LOL! why dont you bring up YOUR OWN EXPERIMENT that YOU can do to prove the shape or motion of earth? you're so people-brained, bringing up other peoples experiments

what do YOUR eyes see? what does YOUR body feel?

>Anyways, jews are jeets.
no, jews are the reason the giant herd of brown nigger cattle has infected all western civilization, because the jews own the governments and the immigration policies, as well as creating the refugee programs with your paycheck while destabilizing other countries with your paycheck so they can ship the nigger cattle to your door
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>>539630977
>3. there are zero experiments to prove earth is moving, spinning, curving, wobbling or tilted
Seasons make more sense with axial tilt and revolution around the Sun, so do relative sizes of the moon if the moon has revolutions around the Earth. Tides make sense if the Earth spins on an axis and the moon's gravity affects the ocean. Regular tides do not make sense if the Earth is stationary and gravity isn't real (a defining concept of flat earth is that Gravity cannot be real, because gravity makes spheres out of matter as that is the most efficient shape for a mass to be: equidistant from its center.
>4. the only thing you have ever seen with your own eyes is a flat horizon
yeah funny thing about that, people notice ships coming OVER the Horizon, or the sun setting OVER the Horizon, and as you drive towards mountains they grow taller OVER the Horizon, and mountains that were previously invisible start rising out of the Horizon. Funny how that works innit? It's what got Columbus to risk sailing off the edge of the world. The idea that ships would come over the horizon indicating a round Earth so he could reach India through an Ocean route rather than going through Muslim infested land routes after they just kicked Muslims out of Spain.
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>>539632666
>, YOU are the one bringing up eratosthenes
No I wasn't. Lol.
>why dont you bring up YOUR OWN EXPERIMENT that YOU can do to prove the shape or motion of earth?
You can see farther the higher up you are, even without obstacles. Literally the opposite would be true if the earth was flat.
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>>539628145
Nothing is naturally flat. Why would the earth be?
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>>539632687
>Seasons make more sense with axial tilt and revolution around the Sun, so do relative sizes of the moon if the moon has revolutions around the Earth. Tides make sense if the Earth spins on an axis and the moon's gravity affects the ocean. Regular tides do not make sense if the Earth is stationary and gravity isn't real (a defining concept of flat earth is that Gravity cannot be real, because gravity makes spheres out of matter as that is the most efficient shape for a mass to be: equidistant from its center.

it doesnt matter what "makes sense" to you, of course there are explanations for things that "make sense", in reality things like the moon affecting earths tides is retarded however. especially considering the moons alleged "gravity" doesnt affect the perfectly still lakes, bathtubs, water bottles, etc but ONLY the trillions of pounds of ocean water.

you have only been given one explanation, and it makes sense to you, so you apply it and accept it blindly. you think the ONLY reason the water goes up and down on earth can be explained by the moon? that's retarded, the earth is basically breathing, water gets absorbed deep in the crust and then goes back up via the roots and dirt

"yeah funny thing about that, people notice ships coming OVER the Horizon, or the sun setting OVER the Horizon, and as you drive towards mountains they grow taller OVER the Horizon, and mountains that were previously invisible start rising out of the Horizon"

if you at under a street lamp and take a few steps back from it, it appears to get smaller and lower than right above your head. and if you keep walking backwards eventually its lower and lower until you can no longer see it. has it gone "BEYOND THE CURVE"? no, its how perspective works. your eye can only resolve so much. its a lens, like a camera. why can your camera zoom farther than your eye? its a better lens. why can a telescope see farther than a camera? its a better lens
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>>539632782
Water bottle on a plane, water bottle on a plane.
Water bottle on a plane.
Or hell, water bottle on a mountain. Out of water? Piss in your bottle and use that.
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>>539632865
>camera literally below level
>too fucking retarded to crop the fake and gay below level picture
Why are you a jeet?
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>>539632892
What about water bottles on a plane? I get thirsty on a flight sometimes.
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>>539632782
>You can see farther the higher up you are, even without obstacles. Literally the opposite would be true if the earth was flat.

this is retarded, you can always see farther with elevation regardless if its flat or a globe because you are raising your viewing angle. if you're in minecraft on a flat plane you can obviously see farther when you're from up above. this is a literal 5 iq babbies first take

>>539632687
wow, look, the boat APPEARS go to "beyond the curve" to the eye, but in reality it is still there. your eye just cant see it because your eye has a distance limit as to how far it can see. just like the camera does. but if the boat truly sailed BEYOND the PHYSICAL curvature of the earth, nothing would bring it back into view. it would be like looking around a corner without turning the corner. they hijacked the way our vision works and said the limitations are based on the earth and not our eyes themselves. as things get farther from you, they APPEAR to get lower and closer to the horizon. they are still the same height, but ANYTHING that keeps getting more distant from you will appear lower and smaller and closer to the horizon. the horizon is not a physical location, its a byproduct of how vision works. its just the APPARENT location where the sky meets the ground. as you get closer to things, they get bigger. its super simple, no idea how people dont get it
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>>539632960
I prefer posting "water bottle on a plane" to spoonfeeding these tard shills actual images.
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>>539632850
if you want to get into semantics, its a topographical plane with valleys and rivers, but the point of the argument/claim of "flat earth" is that its 100% provably not a wobbling curving tilted spinning 3959 mile radius sphere flying through infinite nothingness at 450,000mph. "flat" is just a pretty good way to describe it, considering the only thing we've ever seen with our own eyes at any elevation is a flat horizon
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>>539632983
>raising your viewing angle.
It increases the distance between you and the object you're observing. The viewing angle doesn't matter.

>>539632999
What point are you attempting to make?
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>>539632958
ALL things disappear from the bottom up due to perspective, try it yourself. put your phone camera on the floor and walk away from it. your legs will disappear first from the bottom up. its how perspective works. thats why "ships disappear from the bottom up" as well, it's how perspective works. thats why the sun appears to "set beyond the horizon", its how perspective works. the sun is the same height above our flat earth the whole day, it just appears to be higher or lower based on YOUR relative position to it


>>539633085
lol a higher viewing angle lets you see farther
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>>539630977
this isn’t even bait, canadians are actually this retarded
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>>539633125
>a higher viewing angle lets you see farther
Justify this retarded claim.
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>>539633085
Self leveling device at high altitude.
Level does not conform to horizon.
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>>539628145
https://odysee.com/@EricDubay:c/The-History-of-Flat-Earth-(2025-Remaster):1
nothing personell kid, educate yourself
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>>539631716
>the sky does the same thing. OVER AND OVER. AND OVER. AND OVER. the same stars are in the same place every night.

again you are full of shit.

While the difference from one night to the next is minute, the changes are not imperceptible.

Again, using a model or program, you can fast forward and rewind to make the changes more noticeable.
Stellarium Astronomy Software, is a popular, open-source planetarium software offering realistic 3D sky rendering and telescope control options. Stellarium is a free open source planetarium for your computer. It shows a realistic sky in 3D, just like what you see with the naked eye, binoculars or a telescope.

https://stellarium.org/

The sky does not look the same night after night, every night. There are significant changes during the span of a month, and year.

You can take photos night after night, and every single photo will be different for 12,000 years before the cycle repeats. Things that are closer will begin to repeat their cycle after approximately 365 day, and the lunar cycle repeats.... The Moon returns to nearly the same spot relative to the background stars in 27.3 days (a sidereal month), but to match both the exact same sky position and the same moon phase/clock time, it takes 18.6 years (the nodal precession cycle).

A model can be used in court as evidence, so it is proof. Bear in mind the the term model in this instance is a verb, rather than a noun.
The model demonstrates function.

I'm sure you have similar models to show how aliens control the tides in your flat-earth and the moon is just a figment of everyone's imagination sent to them telepathically by these aliens, who don't want their ships to be seen stirring up the oceans, or some other retarded shit you pull from your dilator.
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>>539633151
funny how you cant dispute me but just adhom

>>539633157
you dont understand how being higher means you can see farther? you dont understand how someone standing on the ground doesn't see as far out as someone who is on a plane 40,000ft above them? you think they both see the same distance out?
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>>539633159
Yes. This is literally true because the earth isn't flat. If the earth were flat then the horizon would never appear to drop below your eye level.
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>>539632596
>jews are jeets
Jews - Jacob
Jeets - Esau

they are brothers
Jacob Israel
Esau Edom
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>>539633295
>you dont understand how being higher means you can see farther?
It makes sense on a globe. Not a flat earth.
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>>539633271
>While the difference from one night to the next is minute, the changes are not imperceptible.

lol, then how come over 5000 years (recorded history) the astrological charts are EXACTLY the same? the constellations are EXACTLY the same? none of them have gotten brighter, dimmer, farther apart, closer together, etc. there are monuments constructed like the giza pyramids which are designed to align to things like orions belt and they still line up perfectly today. this would be difficult to believe if we have travelled hundreds of trillions of miles in that time and so have all the other alleged "stars and planets" in "outer space"

>"A model can be used in court as evidence, so it is proof."

LOL, a model is just used to describe the way things move. the ptolemaic model can still be used today to perfectly predict day/night cycles, season changes, the motions of the luminaries. does it hold up in court then? does it prove we are on a motionless earth?
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>>539632865
All those get affected by tides but their volume is so small in comparison to oceans that the effect isn't really noticeable.
Yes it takes trillions of pounds of water for you to notice the effect of gravity from a body over 200,000 miles away.

No what we're talking about is not just perspective. Ships disappear over the horizon, they don't just get smaller, they disappear, and when they are seen returning, you see the tops of them first, as they appear over. If it was just perspective you'd just see the same image smaller, rather than the image appearing from the top to bottom as it came closer.

in an ANCIENT Flat Earth model, they noticed that the sun set over a horizon and appeared to set bottom first and then eventually disappear, and rise, top first and then rose out of the Horizon. They believe Earth was flat, the sun traveled across the sky, dipped over the edge of the Earth, traveled through the underworld, and then came out on the opposite edge of the earth rising over the Horizon again.
In the modern flat Earther "disc" projection with the sun traveling around in a circle the sun would never set, you'd see it change angles and instead be north or south of you, small, maybe more faint, but the sun would never go down.
It does go down over a horizon, and so, you're left with either A: believing the ancient model which we know does not work, there is no edge of the earth that can be sailed off of, or B: making a non flat earth, which is a dome.. at which point you might as well admit it's a sphere.
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>>539633342
>I'm gonna use old evidence instead of just looking at behaviour
Behavior is a literal indicator of species. Scamming, lying retards that jump around when stressed are not separate groups.
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>>539633345
so its difficult for you to understand why the guy on the right can see farther than the guy on the left?
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>>539633378
>how come over 5000 years (recorded history) the astrological charts are EXACTLY the same? the constellations are EXACTLY the same?
Funny enough, they HAVE changed. The astrological chart astrologers use today is ~2000 out of date compared to astronomical observations. This is well publicized.
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>>539633486
I seaid without obstacles. Learn to read. Maybe come over to the coast or something and climb a light house.
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>>539633392
>Yes it takes trillions of pounds of water for you to notice the effect of gravity from a body over 200,000 miles away.

uh huh.. source? thats just some shit you read that you believe. the idea of "the bending and warping of space time from the moon makes the water go up and down" should land you in an asylum considering its yet to be proven pseudoscience

>Ships disappear over the horizon, they don't just get smaller, they disappear, and when they are seen returning, you see the tops of them first, as they appear over. If it was just perspective you'd just see the same image smaller, rather than the image appearing from the top to bottom as it came closer.

no, thats not how vision works. the reason things disappear to your eye is because it cant resolve them anymore. and a byproduct of when it fails to resolve things is it squishes the top half and bottom half of what you see and forms the apparent "horizon", and this squishing is due to how lenses and perspective works. if a ship disappeared "beyond the curve", you would not be able to bring it back into view with a camera, but you can

>you'd see it change angles and instead be north or south of you, small, maybe more faint, but the sun would never go down

the sun appears to set and disappear while being above the horizon in multiple places, depends on conditions and weather. there is so much glare from it that the average person would never be able to tell throughout the day. and if you use a solar filter you can literally see it change sizes throughout the day, depending on your latitude
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>>539633543
there is a distance limit to your eye and how far it can see. the way you "see" things is when light reaches your eye, there is also a distance limit to how far light can travel through the atmo"sphere" to reach your eye, considering light scatters out in all directions as it travels and gets absorbed by the atmo"sphere" via a process called attenuation. so even without any obstacles you would not be able to see forever on a motionless earth. but its just an objective fact that the higher you go, the farther you can see. it doesn't matter on a globe or a plane, its the same thing. every retard on earth understands this innately without an explanation even needed
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>>539633591
Your asylum, to which you should return, is over the ocean on a specific subcontinent filled with things that are not at all Asians.
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>>539633510
right, so tell me which constellations are different then, because the same stars are in the same place every single night -4 minutes, polaris our motionless center of the universe has yet to move, and every single other star is the exact same distance and position in relation to polaris as it has been for all recorded history
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>>539633392
sun with solar filter clearly gets smaller and lower to the horizon with distance.. just like all things do. its not actually "going beyond the curve", its just getting far enough away from you that it's light doesn't reach your eyes anymore. its called attenuation. the light from the sun does not travel forever. no light can travel forever. it gets scattered as it travels, and absorbed by the medium you are viewing the sun through (the atmo"sphere")
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>>539633634
>there is a distance limit to your eye and how far it can see.
And this is exactly why you should see less the higher up you are if that were the limiting factor. It's literally the difference between the leg of a right triangle and its hypotenuse.
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Why would anyone else care what shape I thought the world was? You people are nerds lol. Go away
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>>539628145
If you believe the earth is flat you aren't white
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>>539633157
The Earth curves about 8 inches per mile.

For example: If you are 3 miles away from a building, and that building has a staircase in front of it. Like the US Capitol, and those steps are each 8" then from a distance of 3 miles the curve of the Earth will hide the first three steps of that staircase from your view.

As you approach the building... two miles = 16" inches or 2 steps hidden from view.
at one mile away one step of the staircase will be hidden from view 8" per mile.

The top of an 8000 inch tall building will be visible from 999 miles away, with a telescope.

A higher viewing angle will obviously alter your view, increasing what you can see over the curve (reducing how much is obscured)
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>>539628145
Looking back, entertaining flat earth was the first sign of permanent brain damage from drug abuse my brother had.
I wish I’d gotten him help before it was too late instead of enabling him.
He’s gone now.
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>>539628145
It's kinda mad that the ancient Greeks were the only people to realise the earth was round and everyone else just learnt it indirectly via them. You get a lot of cope from other cultures about it, most hilariously from the Chinese trying to pretend a cube with rounded corners counts, but it all just cubes back to them in the end.
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>>539633713
except one of the MAJOR factors that affects how far you can see is the viewing conditions. when you are down here closest to earth you are in the densest thickest layer of air in the atmo"sphere" that absorbs the most amount of light. the higher up you go, due to density and buoyancy, there is less thick air and less atmo"sphere" to restrict you. you can think of it like trying to see through 1000 sheets of transparent plastic, eventually they will diffuse enough light so that you can't see through them even though they're all transparent. the light cant travel through them all. the air is the same thing
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>>539633727
crazy thing is, all the flat earthers claim it's DA JOOZ who tell them flat Earth but the flat earth with a dome firmament model is exactly what is in the Jewish holy book.
White men discovered the globe, sailed around it, launched ships into orbit above it.
A white man discovered the physics models that explain gravity
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>>539633725
because they forced you to go to school as a kid and taught you it was a flying wobbling spinning curving tilted 3959 mile radius sphere, they taught this to you as science, they showed you globes in movies your entire life, and they said "this is reality", and it was all a lie. it's a big deal that they are lying to you and able to pull off the lie in front of billions for so many years. if you don't realize that if they could lie about this, they could lie about anything - then you're a lost cause
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>>539630977
>3. there are zero experiments to prove earth is moving, spinning, curving, wobbling or tilted
There are actually several experiments you can do at home that prove the earth is spinning. But I think you're just having a goof farming (you)s and that there's no way you actually believe something so patently retarded as flat earth.
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>>539633591
why do snipers have to take curvature of the Earth into account for extreme distance shots?
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>>539633727
LOL von braun confessed on his deathbed that the apollo missions were hoaxed and faked and that the government was setting up a multi-generational conspiracy that would culminate in a hoaxed "alien invasion" type scenario to "unite" (enslave) humanity against a "common threat". he literally has a bible verse about the firmament on his tombstone

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA
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>>539633749
I'd say sorry for your loss, but he was also a drug addict so uh...
Sorry for your riddance, I guess.
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>>539633019
I think most flat earth "science" and observation points more towards the earth is way bigger than we think
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>>539633795
>who tell them flat Earth
who tell them globe Earth I meant.
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>>539633833
uhhhh
because snipers don't actually exist either
YOU'VE never take an extreme distance shot
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>>539633729
>The Earth curves about 8 inches per mile.
easily debunked via any long distance observation. it should be impossible to see the SAND on the SHORE on the other side of a 28.6 mile lake (lake kootenay BC) if earth was curving. the laser is only six inches above the water, plug this into your curve calculators or chatgpt and come back to me with how it's possible to see across a 28 mile lake from a 6 inch viewing height
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>>539633851
It actually points towards retards can't into scale and think radius and circumference are the same thing.
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>>539633729
Yes. That's my point. Not possible on a flat earth.

>>539633768
You think the difference in atmospheric density between laying prone and standing up is significant enough to impact the optics here?
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>>539633881
>I actually already know the answer, but I'm going to lie about it because it's what I'm being paid to do
Some things just aren't worth the money. Willful stupidity is one of those.
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>>539633942
why are you so mad at getting disproven, have some humility and learn. There's no need to get your nickers in a twist, but please keep do getting mad it's entertaining to read.
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>>539633795
except it was basically all civilizations that talked about a motionless covered earth with a dome, the biblical cosmology is just also one of the many that got it correct. what makes scripture more interesting is because jesus openly talks about how he hates jews and how they're a demonic problem, he openly calls them the synagogue of satan in revelations 2:9, etc

>White men discovered the globe, sailed around it, launched ships into orbit above it.
christopher columbus was a cryptojew, the only reason the spaniards "sailed to america" was because the jews were kicked out of spain in 1492. look up what year spain kicked out the jews, look up what year spain entered its golden age, look up what year christopher columbus sailed to america. it was all 1492. the founding fathers were similarly all cryptojews as well, openly freemasons. george washington was a freemason jew lover and his monuments all reflect his masonic status, just like benjamin franklin and basically the supermajority of presidents throughout history. and freemasonry at its core is a jewish cult that worships satan, just like the canaanites that jesus hated and warned us about in the bible.


>A white man discovered the physics models that explain gravity

einstein was LITERALLY offered to be president of israel lol, and the germans all kicked him out of their scientific community for his jewish mysticism
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>>539633833
they don't, that's just some shit you've heard in movies. if earth was spinning under the bullet as it travelled, then why doesn't earth travel under a hot air balloon up in the sky?

the only thing any trained shooter will tell you they are trained for is to adjust for wind and distance, they are not calculating earth spinning at 1040 mph eastward at the equator. if this were the case it would require insanely complex math because its allegdly spinning at 0 rpm at the poles and super fast at the equator, so it would depend on your latitude etc. its just nonsense. coriolis is just some shit you heard about and saw on the simpsons and now you think its real
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>>539633881
You yourself already brought up atmospheric effects. Don't pretend to conveniently forget about it now.
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>>539633978
>this faggot expects me to believe he is british
Lose the VPN, fraud.
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>>539633378
>how come over 5000 years (recorded history) the astrological charts are EXACTLY the same?

they aren't. you lie
any other stupid questions.

>>539633378
>does it hold up in court then?
I didn't say anything holds up in court
Juries are unpredictable, and often extremely biased. I said CAN BE USED IN COURT
I did not guarantee a conviction.
Even if 12 jurors agree that doesn't prove a thing. Consensus of opinion does not make a fact. pic related
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>>539633826
>There are actually several experiments you can do at home that prove the earth is spinning. But I think you're just having a goof farming (you)s and that there's no way you actually believe something so patently retarded as flat earth.

go ahead and post any home experiments that you think can validate that earth is spinning at 1040 mph eastward at the equator, orbiting the sun at 66600 mph, flying through space after the sun at 450,000mph, etc.

and by the way, here's a quote from spacedaddy jew king einstein LITERALLY saying there's no experiments to prove its moving because its all relative: "the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment" LOL!

so please share with the class what your backyard experiments to prove earths motions are
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I have seen it. I was looking from the outside. Its a pyramid shaped.
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>>539633851
except they've allegedly gone to "outer space", which requires calculating the radius of orbit value, which requires the radius of earth value to be correct. and they've already claimed that earth is a 3959 mile radius sphere.

so, we can put aside that its flat for now - what is important is they taught us it was a 3959 mile radius sphere when it's not. so why the lie and what else are they lying about?
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>>539634082
>the motion of the Earth cannot be detected by any optical experiment
I don't know what you think that quote means, but there are plenty of non-opitcal experiments.
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>>539633836
Actually his long-lost son claimed that the Apollo missions were real and that you specifically are mentally unwell. True story.
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>>539634034
>shlomo is telling me the truth about this I swear
>he lies about everything else literally 100% of my existence is lies
>but trust me bro he's telling the truth
>trust the kikes
hmmmm
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>>539634123
>still posting radius
You will never understand circles until you label the radius and note the problem. You can make a crude compass with two fucking sticks grasped tightly in your shit smeared hand. You have no goddamn excuse for not figuring out that you're referencing shit you aren't actually seeing.
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>>539630977
>the only thing you have ever seen with your own eyes is a flat horizon
That is not true I live on the beach in florida and I see clear curvature at sealevel its funny guys have to make up some "dome" because you have to have curvature to make your philosophy work
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>>539634028
there are no "atmospheric effects" that allow you to see across a 28 mile lake from a 6 inch elevation, standard refraction allows you to see 7-15% beyond the alleged physical horizon, a 28.6 mile observation from a 6 inch elevation would be LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE on a 3959 mile radius sphere

the ground between you and the other side of the lake is supposed to be curving downward and away from you. across 28.6 miles it should be 500 ft below your eye level, but you can clearly see the guy shining a laser into his buddies eye. because head level doesn't drop with distance, because earth is flat and motionelss and the ground under your feet is not curving
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>>539634144
sure, post which experiments you've done or any of us can do to prove earth is moving, spinning, orbiting the sun, or flying through space
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>>539633392
The moon is a menace. The moon is responsible for the tides, and more. The vast majority of disasters, storms, Tsunamis, Earthquakes... are tied to them Moon.

Earth would be much more peaceful and calm without lunacy. If only there were a way to eject the moon from Earth's orbit, and send that thing into the sun, without doing even more damage here on Earth.
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>>539634178
>frogposts
Ah, yes, when in doubt, beat the allegations by being even more obvious.
Brain damage isn't good for you.
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>>539634218
Good sir we can all see the only gent(i)leman here seething is you, you are literally crying and shaking getting more and more mad with each time you are disproven, you are embarrassing yourself infront of hundreds of people, but hilariously so
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>>539631272
aether, pleb.
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>>539634224
cool story bro here's a top astrophysicist saying you don't see curvature from 5x higher than a plane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9YbQVO8ddY
Astrophysicist Neil Degrasse Tyson Says You Cannot See The Curvature Of The Earth At 120,000ft

you cannot see the curvature of the earth from its surface, the only thing you've ever seen is a flat horizon. water is level and does not curve or bend.
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>>539634271
>we can all see
No, I will not tell you why I know you aren't British. That's for you to figure out with your fucking focus group.
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>>539628145
>>539629373
greek philosophers were something else, absolute gigabrains
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>>539633543
>I seaid without obstacles.
The curve of the Earth is an obstacle.
The higher you go, the more you can see over the curve.
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>>539634314
>top astrophysicist
>literally just a dude weed nigger trotted out to replace the dude cripple plagiarist after he died
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>>539631163
Jesus was a jew teaching non-jews jewish mysticism if he never died the new testament would be a manual on how to recognize Jewish tricks
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>>539634356
thats literally all the space scientists, they are faggot fraud actors on TV. but when the teacher wheeled in the TV with bill nye on it everyone accepted what he said as reality. he is an incredibly gay and retarded nigger and i dont believe a word he says, but anyone who is arguing against me and how they're definitely flying through space on a globe is on the same side as neil degrasse tyson is, advocating for the same basedence
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>>539634334
how does that make any sense? wouldn't you just be able to see less of it the higher you went if it's curved? Does the earth turn into an oval at a certain height?
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>>539634412
>you're not allowed to think both of us are retarded, you have to pick a side!
There's that jewish(jeet) delusion. Fucking false dichotomies everywhere they open their worthless mouths.
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>>539634411
there was no J in that language at the time so all your labels are completely based on 2026 standards. jesus had nothing to do with the jewish bloodlines of today like the rothschilds and rockefellers or netanyahu etc.

he was born among the people who we call "jews" so that he could spread awareness, because they are an important group here on this earth due to the fact that their god is satan. christ came to warn us of the synagogue of satan (revelation 2:9) and was openly arguing and fighting with jews, jews literally wrote anti-semitic speech laws and used roman cops to kill jesus for breaking their anti-semitic speech laws. he was the #1 jew hater, so anyone who says otherwise just hasn't read scripture for themselves
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>>539634265
you could have just googled these yourself
Hang a pendulum and let it swing long enough, the earth will rotate beneath it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=se84vG6bzoA
there's also a bunch of experiments in this video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTSXGyGhrPo
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>>539631716
What part of earth is motionless? Why would everything around it be in motion but not the earth? What are the sun and the moon then?
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>And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
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>>539634485
i mean, yeah, its either a globe flying through space or its not, retard. you don't believe you're flying on a globe because you drew that conclusion yourself, that worldview was given to you. by bill nye, einstein, neil degrasse tyson, stephen hawking, etc. all these "legendary minds" are the ones who helped construct this narrative. you trust the masons like galileo instead? galileo didnt even believe in gravity when he introduced it as a concept lol.

the only side you should be on is your own, following evidence that you've proven for yourself
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>>539634521
>Hang a pendulum and let it swing long enough, the earth will rotate beneath it.

if this were the case then there would be no stationary pendulums on earth. or cranes, or wind chimes, or anything hanging.

i panned through your 2nd shitty video but it was just a bunch of cartoon globes and observations. those are not experiments. i think its funny how in a "globe proof" video they are using cartoon globe mockups lol
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>>539632400
>muiltiple flat earth
If it was real there would only be one
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>>539634555
>flying
You won't even into English, apparently. Flight is caused by interaction with a medium. No, not a seance, stupid faggot.
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>>539634596
>if this were the case then there would be no stationary pendulums on earth. or cranes, or wind chimes, or anything hanging.
does not follow.
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>>539633797
That's not what they taught in my school
It defies logic and physics to think that the Earth would be a sphere if it were spinning, obviously there would be centrifugal force, which would cause a bulge. In fact a measurable (1100 Meter) bulge at the Equator.
But for the sake of young children, let's not call the Earth an oblate spheroid, they aren't ready for that kind of Math. Let's wait til they are in college to burst their bubble.
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>>539634632
>literally raging insulting crying and shaking
why are you even ITT if it makes you so mad, fill your diaper somewhere else shlomo. Uh oh stinky
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>>539634528
the ground under your feet doesnt move. you know it already. have you ever felt like the ground under you is spinning?

there is the ground under your feet, motionless earth. there are the lights in the sky, clearly moving. when you go outside during the day, do you think "wow, the sun is moving over my head, just like the clouds are, due to the wind!" or do you think "wow, the ground under my feet is spinning 1000 mph backwards away from the sun while its stationary, and IM the one moving!". obviously its the first. just listen to your body.

down here = no move
up there = yes move. the clouds, sun, moon, stars all move

>Why would everything around it be in motion but not the earth?

because you are the center of the universe and the sky was made to spin above your head to help you tell the time, navigate, know where you are, etc. the sky is a compass, map, clock and calendar

>What are the sun and the moon then?
two lights in the sky to help us tell the time, they are exactly the same size which is why one can eclipse the other, this is no coincidence like the heliocentric model teaches but the consequence of an intelligent designer who created this place intentionally.

the sun tells you what time of day it is, if its above your head its your midday. the moon tells you what time of the month it is, with its 28 day cycle that drains and repeats. 13 moon cycles = 1 solar cycle, and then they repeat. they do the same thing over and over.

the stars allow you to navigate - we have a motionless star polaris that you can reference against all other stars to know your place relative to it. constellations like the big dipper were used to track the seasons based on if it was facing up/down/left/right
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>>539634644
>hang a pendulum and eventually it will start moving due to the earth moving under it
then why would there be stationary pendulums if earth is always moving?
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>>539628145
correct
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>pose a query to a flat earther
>integral of x^2 dx = x^3
>tell them to find the problem with it
>they start by saying, math isn't real
>have YOU ever seen math working in real life?
>these people who invented math, they were all idiots and dumbasses
>language isn't real either
>the symbols you use in math are arabic, this is part of freemason arabic conspiracy
>they keep rambling on
>don't even know the basics of calculus by which they could find the very simple and obvious problem with the query
This is the analogy I think. There are tons of problems in physics and the flat earther doesn't want to do the discipline to learn anything about physics or science, so they go for the most dumb, low hanging fruit, area-denial method of just denying the basics of everything.
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>>539633985
I was referring to Newton.
Gravitational and orbital calculations came from Newton.
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>>539634700
>switches to troon signaling
You're allowed to stop whenever you like.
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>>539634785
>BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
who's a big boy, yes he is
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>>539634782
And a jew came up with relativity. It should make you pause for a second and consider, maybe there was something to that aether theory after all
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>>539634614
multiple flat earth MODELS .. lol, there is only one earth and its the motionless ground under your feet

>>539634632
the idea that there is no medium that connects things is purely retarded. even newton didnt believe in his own theory of gravity because he said "if matter can influence matter instantaneously at a distance with no medium, it must be god doing it". he literally thought it was retarded and impossible.

how can 2 planets communicate which one is more massive than the other and therefore has more "gravity" than the other and begin to attract it.. if there's no medium for them to communicate within?

>>539634688
its not an "oblate spheroid" either, that's just some shit you heard from a fat nigger basedentist on youtube (neil degrasse tyson). the only reason they invented that is because more than 50% of the alleged "globe" can see polaris and more than 50% of the "globe" gets illuminated by the sun on certain days of summer, so they had to say "erm yea well its not a perfect sphere its wider at the equator". even though all the alleged pictures of our alleged globe show it being perfectly spherical
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>>539634829
>I'm actually obese too
Thanks for sharing, VPNtroon.
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>>539634840
>no, there HAS to be a medium!
Wait, that's your angle? "The only way the Earth can fly is if it is wing shaped?"
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>>539634771
there's no way real people genuinely think this is some dunk on flat earthers or some amazing logic

if you understood math half as well as you think you do, you would be able to understand that we see too far for it to be physically possible that we're on a 3959 mile radius sphere lol
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>>539634740
>then why would there be stationary pendulums if earth is always moving?
because gravity and newton's 1st law of motion, but your question has nothing to do with the premise of the experiment to begin with. The pendulum didn't start swinging on its own, it just has an adequately thin enough wire to keep swinging long enough to for motion to be observed.
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>>539634836
it wasnt just a jew, einstein was offered to be president of israel

and he was mocked out of the scientific community in germany because he tried to deny aether and replace it with "nothingness", when earths electrical background medium is measurable and provable and testable. everyone called it electrical field theory >>539631344
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>>539633881
Once again you are disingenuous
at a distance of 28.6 miles
with a curve of 8 inches per mile
8 x 28.6 = 228.8 INCHES of arc curve

yet you self-insert a pulled from your ass claim of 486 FEET of missing curve.

228.8 inches
not 486 feet
you suck at math
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>>539630977
why are neo nazis like this?
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>>539634909
>no, there HAS to be a medium!
>Wait, that's your angle? "The only way the Earth can fly is if it is wing shaped?"

sorry i have no idea wtf you're saying, the only way ANYTHING exists is within a medium however. there is no such thing as a background medium that is "nothingness", and that "nothingness" certainly cannot begin to be warped or bent lol
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>>539634721
>have you ever felt like the ground under you is spinning?
Well its on a really big scale your body takes up so little space on a giant thing you wouldnt notice it.
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>>539634874
I hope you get paid for this anon, but even then
>my job is I argue with autists telling me I shit my pants and wear diapers
like, who is the real winner here shlomo? I do this for keks, have a good one
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>>539634964
lol im just using earth curve calculators that anyone can find
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>>539635006
>Well its on a really big scale your body takes up so little space on a giant thing you wouldnt notice it.

thats just some shit you've been told that you believe. you also wouldnt feel it.. if it wasn't moving. which its not. which is why it cant be measured that its moving at all
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>>539634964
>>539635030

the expected horizon is supposed to be 0.8 miles away according to the math, yet we can see literally more than 30x farther than that
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>>539635018
>he doesn't get paid to larp as a paid shill
Yes, you're clearly having a grand old time using canned lines that look exactly like they came from a troon hurtbox discord.
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>>539635058
It can be measured dumbass. You know submarines use a gyroscope to find north, since compasses don't work underwater? The gyroscope works by measuring the direction of the earth's rotation. It's called a "gyroscopic compass". It literally wouldn't work if the earth wasn't spinning.
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>>539634984
Flat earthers are mentally ill and would have been sterilised or killed per German doctrine. And rightfully so.
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>>539635130
no, a gyroscope is literally set and "locked" in when they are on the flat motionless surface of earth, and then it preserves its rigidity in space, letting you know your orientation relative to your initial locked in orientation

submarines are just another flat earth proof because periscopes see WAYYYYYYY too far for how little above the water they go and yet they can make observations up to 15-20 miles away from only a few inches above the ground. which is impossible on a 3959 mile radius sphere the way they taught us in school, because the PHYSICAL HORIZON would be 1 mile away or so from that low of an elevation above water
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>>539635151
there was never any "final plan" by hitler and hitler was a jewish fraud who is the only reason israel exists today. he never holocausted anybody yet israel exists because they said they got holocausted. hitler was rothschild funded and a jewish plant who enabled the jews to transfer to palestine using german money via the haavara transfer agreement

the nazis were good people, sadly hitler got them all killed. the real holocaust was AFTER ww2 was over when america and russia teamed up and killed 8+ million innocent germans unaffiliated with hitler at all. because it was never about anything except killing based white people
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>>539635278
Yes we know you're a retarded schizo
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>>539634144
A few years ago, here on 4chan
a bunch of us went out at the same time, and pointed lasers straight up
we all looked around to see that every laser was pointing in a different direction
From each individual perspective the laser was pointed at Zenith 90 degree elevation straight up.
The lasers were not parallel because the earth is not flat.
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>>539635346
yeah funny how you cant intellectually rebuke me or prove you're flying through infinite nothingness on a wobbling tilted curving spinning space ball and all you can do is say "ur mom" and "ur dumb"
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>>539635368
>Earth exists
>the sun exists
>both visible to the naked eye
>thinks the nothingness is infinite
That is not at all what "infinite" means.
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>>539635368
I mean we might not be flying through space but we are definitely traveling somewhere the earth is 100% moving. Spinning makes sense though because everything spins naturally
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>>539635460
the sun is not a giant gas ball 92000000 miles away, its the same exact size and distance as the moon. ie. not that big and far

and by the way, space is literally considered "infinite" because its allegedly "expanding faster than we can view it" lol, im using YOUR perspectives understanding of the universe and the way they literally teach it

>>539635498
>I mean we might not be flying through space but we are definitely traveling somewhere the earth is 100% moving
where do you get your "100%" confidence from when you dont feel earth moving ever your entire life? the things above earth are 100% moving

>Spinning makes sense though because everything spins naturally

??? no, things are at rest naturally. things just lay there motionless unless they are disturbed. to spin something requires energy
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>>539635534
>I still haven't figured out that I'm being disagreed with by a guy that disagrees with things I also disagree with
Please spell "brain damage."
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>>539635592
i dont care, i respond to anything i feel like responding to. its not about the person im responding to either, its about anyone lurking that is a genuine truth seeker, in the hopes that they become curious enough to go down this multi-year conspiracy research and find out the truth for themselves: that earth is special, designed by a Creator, and that the world out there is one big jewish lie. they want you convinced that you are a "citizen" on their "globe" and you must compete for currency they print out of thin air. in reality, there was a very important person on this earth that warned us of these people that now enslave us. im sick of being a slave, and i fight for humanity, so i spread truth to combat their lies
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>>539635368
There's no use in offering intellectual rebuttals when the root of the problem lies in you (and every other flat earther) being a moron with a personality disorder
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>>539635700
>There's no use in offering intellectual rebuttals when the root of the problem lies in you (and every other flat earther) being a moron with a personality disorder
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>>539635713
>>539635700
oops i pressed enter early. again this is more pointless adhom that contributes nothing to the discussion and doesnt make you look intellectual or smart at all, it is just another "ur mom"
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>>539630977

The fuck you talking about? The sky never stays the same, the sky always shifts slightly to the north during winter in the northern pole while it shifts back to the center and then slightly to the south when it's winter in the southern pole making some constellations, stars and even fucking planets to be more visible or visible at all depending on the time of the year, since my country is so close to the Equator that's how it looks like from here, that alone dismantles the flat earth conspiracy since it proves that the earth has an axis that tilts and causes the 4 stations to exist in the poles which would be physically impossible to happen on a flat earth.

Also using religion as a way to justify your retarded vision of the world is what kikes do when they know they are doing unhinged shit that would be unacceptable in any sane society so the goy cattle don't challenge them or try to punish them for the chaos they create, christcucks are such an abomination, you follow their playbook like the bible yet you're just disposable goy cattle for your kike overlords, you're what I call "second hand jews" because you act like them but you lack the official rank recognition from your superiors and you're with the rest of us in the canon fodder if shit hits the fan and WWIII happens.
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>>539634840
Neil Degrasse Tyson is a Canadian actor, not a scientist, and he's very low IQ

Earth is definitely an oblate sphere.

We discovered the lost city of Atlantis right where it was supposed to be in 1967.
Due to a pole shift, Atlantis was no longer at sea level. Shift of the poles moved the equator. and centrifugal velocity from rotation of the sphere thrust the new equatorial region upwards (1100 meters above sea level)
so you can't find Atlantis if you're looking for it at or below sea level, Atlantis didn't sink It rose

More than 50% of Earth's population can see Polaris.... are you seriously retarded. who the fuck lives in Australia and south America.
The "global south" is a meme, and a joke at the same time. More than 50% of the population lives in the Norther Hemisphere... Approximately 87% to 90% of the world's population lives in the Northern Hemisphere, so of course they can see Polaris.
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>>539635356
clever experiment, well done anon
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>>539635727
The movement, size, and shape of the Earth are not up for discussion. Your position does not hold any weight. It's a matter of reality versus mentally retarded narcissists.
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>>539631272

>KURISTINAAA!!!
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>>539635830
1. i mean yeah the sky is on a cycle that repeats, the stars are in the same place every single night -4 minutes, but ultimately the sky resets back to its origin position, and continues. its like a clock. so yes throughout the year sometimes you are looking at different parts of the clock depending on the offset but it all ultimately resets after 13 lunar cycles.

the sky is on a 25600 year cycle, astronomy refers to this as a great year. the mainstream says its proof of the tilt/wobble, but in reality it is not, the wobble is just the reason they give for this 25600 year cycle

and secondly, religion was uninteresting and irrelevant to me until i discovered the truth that earth is geocentric/motionless and the same stars revolve above our head. this made reading scripture viable because i became interested in books that talked about earth being the same way as i've found it to be. you talk about how im a "second hand jew", but then you bring up jewish garbage like ww1 and ww2, all the wars are bankers wars. all organized religion is a jewish invention, that doesn't mean scriptures aren't true.

and by the way, YOU are way more of a religious zealot than i am, you have BLIND FAITH in your globe religion. your priests are the jewish fraud einstein, niggers like neil degrasse tyson, frauds like bill nye, etc. they just say shit, and you believe it. you read from their holy textbooks and accept it as reality for yourself
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>>539628145
based, I am black but now that you have said it I feel proud to be white
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>>539635839
>Due to a pole shift, Atlantis was no longer at sea level
this is just some shit they made up that you believe, what is a "pole shift"? yet to be proven, yet to be demonstrated. you can't just make claims like you know why atlantis sunk lol

"shift of the poles" is some sci-fi shit like wormholes or quantum tunneling or any other fanfic
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>>539635916
>The movement, size, and shape of the Earth are not up for discussion. Your position does not hold any weight. It's a matter of reality versus mentally retarded narcissists.
LOL, so are you claiming you have been able to detect its movement, measure its size, or determine its shape for yourself? or you just put your BLIND FAITH in the work that others have done and accept their conclusions?
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>>539635030
>lol im just using earth curve calculators that anyone can find
Those were created by b/tards
for entertainment purposes only.

It should be obvious to anyone with a brain that the formula "cubed" is a calculation for volume squared calculates area
arc curve is not squared nor cubed
you can find the actual formula at reliable math sites.
don't ever trust suspicious web calculators
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>>539636050
you're telling me.. the #1 most popular earth curve calculator on google.. was made by /b/ tards to troll? riiiiiiight

did /b/tards influence google too?
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>>539634836
you can call relativity "Jewish science" if you want, a lot of it is theoretical anyway.

But Newtonian physics is solid, proven, white man's science. There's a comet that we can accurately predict the return of, like clockwork, based on calculations that Halley did using Newton's laws of universal gravitation and motion.
We can also calculate how to blow up Russians with 155mm artillery based on Newtonian physics. That works. Objects travel in parabolas because of gravity.
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>>539636103
THE SKY DOES THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER AND OVER

IT ALWAYS HAS LOL! IT ALWAYS WILL!

predicting comets, predicting eclipses, predicting the way the sky works is not a "PREDICTION" when it WILL do the same thing over and over and over. the ptolemaic model can STILL be used to "PREDICT" eclipse timings to this day, it works 100% accurately. it doesn't mean anything other than its an accurate method of describing the way the sky moves. the newtonian model doesn't explain reality and they don't even use "mass attracts mass" anymore, they use curved space-time now instead because if mass attracted mass, earth would be pulled into the sun during its closest part of the alleged ellpitical orbit, or it would be flung off into space during its farthest part of our alleged elliptical orbit

"Objects travel in parabolas because of gravity."

no, objects go up or down based on their relative density/buoyancy to the medium they are in. it has nothing to do with the bending and warping of space time. bullets drop over distance because they are traveling through air. bullets are heavier than air so they fall through air. its that simple.

if you take a ball, its heavier than air so it falls through. if you swim to the bottom of a pool and let go, the ball goes UP. not all things go down, it depends on your relative density to the medium you are in

it has nothing to do with gravity, aka the bending and warping of space time
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>>539636039
You should try verifying the presence of a brain in your skull with a shotgun.
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>>539636244
>You should try verifying the presence of a brain in your skull with a shotgun.
right... and you're trying to pretend that you're the rational logical person, and im the crazy one? you sound jewish
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>>539636194
>steel is heavier than feathers posting
Pathetic.
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>>539636330
the reason why things go up or down is a very difficult concept for some people to grasp. the only reason they can think of things falling down is because "the bending and warping of space time" lol
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>>539630977
Also the heliocentrism model is pure garbage. If the earth is a ball moving around a bigger ball doing an elipsoidal course, we should be able to see really weird stuff in the sky but those never happened. It's garbage over garbage.
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>>539636377
>says "heavier"
>says "heavier"
>no u when the error is pointed out
Go on, keep going. You're clearly very smart.
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>>539635080
The distance to the horizon depends directly on the Earth's radius and your eye-level height, calculated using the formula \(d \approx \sqrt{2Rh}\)

distance to horizon is wholly different than arc angle of view.
Horizon: : the line where the earth seems to meet the sky. Seems to meet is very important, because the actual Horizon is far beyond what you eyes are capable of seeing.

Pilots set "Artificial Horizon" on their instruments because "actual Horizon" is still out of visual range, even at 60,000 ft altitude

"Horizon" has nothing to do with visual field, or depth of view. The horizon is the physical and geometric boundary where the Earth's surface and the sky appear to meet, dictated by the planet's curvature and scale rather than a biological limit of human vision or a concept of depth perception.
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>>539636421
agreed, there are tons of issues with the heliocentric model yet its taught commonly still to this day and tons of people continue to defend it

>>539636429
are you trying to pretend things can only be "heavy" because gravity exists and that "weight" would not exist without it? heaviness is just the amount of matter in a certain volume, it has nothing to do with external forces

>>539636439
ok well earths radius is 3959 miles and the eye-level is six inches above the water. so how far away should the physical horizon be? because the math says 0.86 miles lol. yet we can see 30x farther than that
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>>539636490
alleged radius*
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>>539636490
I might had that we never see clouds being lit from the bottom ( exception for could over the sea which is reflective)
And when the sun sets the shadows never goes up. They always stretch till there is no light.
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>>539635991

I don't give a shit about names and titles but evidence so I don't care about mainstream TV star "scientists" or dead physicists that died a long time ago, and the evidence is clear in front of you, let's imagine that the earth is flat, then why there are no more flying discs in the entire visible universe besides from ours? Also how satellites don't fall from the sky if earth doesn't have an orbit since it's locked in a place according to you?

Do they hang them from the glass dome? But jokes aside, the amount of mental gymnastics that you have to go through to justify your flat earth theory are so huge that you have to use god and religion in order to make sense of it since that's the oldest way to indoctrinate the masses when you want them to accept your outlandish bullshit.
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>>539636025
>what is a "pole shift"?
Pole shift is tracked, the magnetic pole moves and the geographic pole follows. The south pole is headed towards Hawaii. Ice is already melting on the backside of Antarctica

The polar Ice cap probably won't migrate fully in your lifetime, but all indications and predictions conclude that the south pole will be near Hawaii soon.

I would love to see Antarctica without the Ice-cap, but I don't agree with "geo-engineering" to accelerate the process. DO NOT PAY CARBON TAX. they aren't stopping global warming they are causing it.
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>>539628145
People in Alexandria and Aswan aren't white so I doubt their methods.
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>>539636826
No but they had phones and radio communication to sync up that experiment.
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>>539636077
Google is owned by a b/tard
if you hadn't figured out that Google was trolling you, try google AI
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>>539636490
>help I can't figure out what word I'm supposed to use here despite explicitly stating the definition of something other than weight
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>>539636868
They're brown. Experiment discarded.
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>>539636764
>let's imagine that the earth is flat, then why there are no more flying discs in the entire visible universe besides from ours?

why are you pre-supposing the ground under your feet is the same as the lights in the sky? earth is unique. why do you think the circles in the sky are the same as the ground under your feet? secondly, ALL light appears as circles with enough distance. light travels in all directions. its called the radius of light.

> how satellites don't fall from the sky if earth doesn't have an orbit since it's locked in a place according to you?

"satellites" in orbit at 18,000mph dont exist, satelloons are up on helium balloons. over 99% of internet traffic happens via underwater cables and the last 1% is cell towers. you can have technology like "google maps" with ground based triangulation, not from "10,000 satellites in the thermosphere"

>Do they hang them from the glass dome? But jokes aside, the amount of mental gymnastics that you have to go through to justify your flat earth theory are so huge that you have to use god and religion in order to make sense of it since that's the oldest way to indoctrinate the masses when you want them to accept your outlandish bullshit.

but both of your questions are 30 iq pre-suppositions that earth is just like the lights in the sky. look at the lightbulb on the ceiling, is the ground under your feet a lightbulb? why does it light up but the light under your feet doesn't?

stay curious, keep asking questions, become a more talented conspiracy researcher and you will only day see the truth for yourself
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>>539636798
this is a jpeg with a red arrow pointing at yellow dots, how does this substantiate that the "poles are shifting"?
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>>539630977
Kike mad
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>>539633271
>pilpul
lol
lmao
Astronomy is still using Babylonian measurements and predictions. That said: I am neither fond of "flat earth", nor the masonic helicentrism - whenever you're provider two conveniently curated options, both are fake, gay and retarded and hide a third. I have hardly ever encountered "people" as disingenious as those who campaign for helicentrism. Even if I knew absolutely nothing whatsoever about the world, the behaviour of "people" like you would be reason enough to distrust and question the official model.
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>>539630977
>the brain of the evangelicuck
This planet isn't the center of the universe, and it's round like all the others.
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>>539636972
"flat earth society" is literally anti-flat earth, this is just a hit piece trying to pretend its some "jew thing" when in reality its basically "EVERYONE ON EARTH KNEW IT WAS MOTIONLESS" lol.

people always say that flat earth is some christian thing, but its not just the bible that teaches a motionless, flat earth enclosed. in fact basically all of history until now thought that too. the greeks, the navajo, the babylonians, the meopotamians, the japanese, the persians, the vikings, the indians, the mayans, the incans, the hebrews, the origin australian, the chinese, the celtic, the chumash, the slavics, the africans, the sumerians, romans, the egyptians all depicted earth in this way too, so to lump it in and pretend it some "jewish invention" is just disingenuous
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>>539636103
I have bad news for you...

The US has nothing comparable to Russia's Krasnopol 155mm artillery.
In fact the US military industrial complex abandoned artillery for the most part in favor of missiles, which are much more profitable.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krasnopol_(weapon_system)
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>>539634721
>have you ever felt like the ground under you is spinning?
We don't feel "the speed". We feel acceleration or deceleration. Is this why trains kill so many of you jeets?
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>>539637016
when it comes to "flat", i think its just a simple descriptor. what is much more important is what you described: the heliocentric model is provably retarded, and they taught it to all of us growing up in school. they continue to teach this fraudulent model full of lies to kids. this is the #1 problem

people believe shit like pic related is real LOL!
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>>539637095
>We feel acceleration or deceleration

and earth is allegedly in an elliptical orbit where its speed is variable based on its proximity to the sun, yet we never feel the difference?

secondly, there are multiple motions happening at once, you dont think you'd feel yourself spinning, orbiting the sun, flying through space and all the milky way galaxy? these are 4 motions in 4 different directions and we feel none, detect none, measure none?
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>>539628145
So-called white nationalists will pretend that the jews controlled the US government except when German scientists randomly decided to put a man on the moon
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>>539636925
>this is a jpeg
no it's not a jpeg, it's a gif animation
indicating the mapped locations of the magnetic south pole.

Earth is basically an electric motor.
A ball suspended within a magnetic field.
Shifting the poles, changes the axis... solar flare increase the rotation speed.
all above your paygrade comrade
maybe if Canadians vote to join the union and become the 51st state,we could increase your security clearance.
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>>539630977
Bakana?!?!?!?
A good leaf poster?!?!?
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>>539637352
1776 was freemason jews, the "founding fathers" were cryptojews kicked out of spain
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>>539637468
>Earth is basically an electric motor.

agreed

>A ball suspended within a magnetic field.

not a ball, but within an electric field: agreed

>Shifting the poles, changes the axis... solar flare increase the rotation speed.

thats some shit that is totally made up and yet to be substantiated
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>>539636907

Flat brain retards are so easy to trigger when you don't blindly agree with their bogus claims and endorse their stupid ideas, why would I seriously engage in a conversation that I wouldn't ever have in real life, people like you would be yelling at strangers on the sidewalk if it wasn't for the internet.
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>>539630977
Checked, unusually based leaf
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>>539637016
>nor the masonic helicentrism
where we're going, we don't need roads, Marty

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jHsq36_NTU
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>>539637535
>Flat brain retards are so easy to trigger when you don't blindly agree with their bogus claims and endorse their stupid ideas, why would I seriously engage in a conversation that I wouldn't ever have in real life, people like you would be yelling at strangers on the sidewalk if it wasn't for the internet

totally illogical, you will only express or defend your ideas if you're in the right physical environment? its my thoughts against yours in this online colosseum, and you want to pretend its so far beneath you to interact because we aren't irl? i guarantee you in person i would completely embarrass you like i do every globe retard, i would just ask you basics like "how big is earth?" and you would not have a fucking clue, meanwhile i have the entire fake heliocentric model memorized, i know your own model 1000x better than you do because i needed to evaluate and debunk it for myself
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>>539630977
I don't remember where I found out about this book, but it was very interesting to read, considering it was written in the late 300's AD.The Literal Meaning of Genesis Vol.1byAugustine of Hippois a fascinating book. It's valuable to learn what people in the 4th Century understood about the nature of the universe, solar system and the earth. I realize that most people today believe inThe Myth of the Flat Earth, which suggests that everyone before Columbus believed the earth was flat, and likely a square, but this is simply not true. In this book, Augustine demonstrates that the earth is arguably spherical, and may rotate around fire, and clearly says that some of the stars are larger than the Sun. Educated individuals had believed in some sort of spherical earth and posited a heliocentric model at least as early as the 5th century B.C. So Augustine clearly employs these arguments in this commentary on Genesis.
https://postbarthian.com/2009/07/25/the-literal-meaning-of-genesis-vol-1-review/
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nigga actually said satelloons lmao
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>>539637521
>not a ball, but within an electric field: agreed

it's a ball

You don't know much about motors do you.

We can travel in any direction by changing the axis of the motor field. Not by physically rotating, or tilting the motor, just by altering the field.
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>>539637768
i mean cool story bro but the modern day has established things beyond speculation: we have allegedly gone to the moon in the 1970s which requires calculating things like the distance to the moon, and travelling to "space" requires leaving "orbit", which requires calculating the radius of orbit value, which requires the radius of earth value.

so the 3959 mile radius sphere is what the mainstream is locked in to, and this is something we can physically test. and when we do, the PHYSICAL HORIZON is not where it PHYSICALLY HAS TO BE. seeing beyond the PHYSICAL HORIZON is impossible, akin to seeing around a corner before you cross it. so it doesn't matter what anybody wrote about back in the day, what matters is that right now in 2026 the mainstream sources like the scientific and educational community as well as the governments and militaries and space agencies of the world all agree that earth is a 3959 mile radius sphere

but like i said, you can easily debunk this for yourself by going out to do your own long distance observations. we see too far. every time. reliably. way beyond what refraction allows.

so you can think "flat earth" is a psyop all you want, i don't particularly care for the label either, i think it's a decent way to describe the fact that its certainly never appears to curve, water always is level (and flat) and all the water on earth is level. and we are 100% provably not on a 3959 mile radius sphere

i would MUCH rather spend my time discussing how the 3959 mile radius sphere is provably a lie, because its the de-facto model they taught us all growing up

what is also important is that we do not live on "google earth", they do not allow us to see the realm we live on, they do not allow us to freely explore the realm we live on
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>>539630977
It really sucks that /pol/ is not a truther board. It'd be cool if we merge /x/ and /pol/ together.
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>>539637887
cool, you don't know much about electric fields do you?

the only way you can have a uniform electric field is between 2 parallel guassian surfaces. and earth has a uniform electric field that goes up by 100v per meter. ANYWHERE you go on earth, 100v per meter is consistent. but you can ONLY have a uniform electric field between TWO PARALLEL SURFACES, meaning that earth is flat and also the sky is flat, which explains why we only see the 2d face of the moon etc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcFnoY0lVTI
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>>539637994
It really sucks that leafs are such fucking retarded cucks
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>>539637621

>i guarantee you in person i would completely embarrass you

I totally agree, it would be very embarrassing to be next to a flat earther kike in public.
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>>539637994
sadly i get banned on /pol/ for talking about flat earth and told by mods to go to /x/, who ban me for flat earth being too political. its the most suppressed topic on the internet which is why you can't overtly talk about it without threads getting censored. this one is up for a long time which is just a sloppy job from the mods.

there's a reason when you google "flat earth experiment" it redirects you to "experiment proving earth is a globe".

there is a reason flat earth threads are banned on reddit, /pol/, etc. subreddits like /r/flat_earth are not about flat earth at all, and are just anti-flat earth.

there's a reason when you search for people like "eric dubay" you will get redirected to debunkers that spend their career trying to debunk him, and they are somehow above on the algorithm etc
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>>539638063
yeah im sure you would be amazing at convincing me why i should trust the government and their cartoon pictures
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>>539638070

For the same reason why the Nyquil chicken challenge was banned from the internet.
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>>539638070
Yeah noticed all of that. I have no idea why /pol/ is so anti-flat earth when it literally breaks all the illusions that our education system makes us believe. It's literally the ultimate red pill along with Satan's little season.
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>>539638356
>Yeah noticed all of that. I have no idea why /pol/ is so anti-flat earth when it literally breaks all the illusions that our education system makes us believe. It's literally the ultimate red pill along with Satan's little season.

welllll you probably know why, its because 4chan and /pol/ is basically a honeypot to draw in conspiracy researchers and waste their time on nonsense like trump, politics, worldly events, etc. while barraging them with porn, gore, violence, man vs woman, white vs black, left vs right, etc. anything to make you hate your neighbor instead of uniting with them

any ACTUAL truther topics (fake nuclear bombs, fake dinosaurs, fake flat earth) will get deleted for being off-topic/conspirational, whereas straight up porn or just gifs of people being blown up will be reposted all day long. and its all the jews aka the synagogue of satan (revelation 2:9) doing it

the ultimate red pill is that God is real and He loves us and made this creation for us. sadly even the most dedicated and talented conspiracy researchers struggle to accept that final redpill

you're right that it's one of the biggest and most important topics that people should confront and research
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>>539637768
God created your soul long long ago, he knew you before your body was created in the womb.

Honor your mother and father for giving you the animal to inhabit, through which you can experience God's wondrous creation "in the flesh" but remember that they only gave you this temporary body. God is your father, he created the soul which is YOU.
Some of us souls have been around a long time, we hung out in the heavens for eons before our earthly parents were even born.
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.
Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.
I watched c-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhäuser Gate. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain.
Death of the body is not the end, nor was it's birth our beginning. Hard to remember for some. Hard to unlearn the lies that want you to think you are nothing but the flesh.
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>>539638456
Quick question, do you know what the Little Season of Satan is? This theory is like the glue that pastes every single Truther Trukes together. I suggest you watch UnderstandingConspiracy's videos on it.
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>>539637887
Google Tokamak
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>>539638549
I am a Christian,why would i quote Saint Augustine if I was not ?
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>>539633795
>>539633836
Also if you believe the natsoc scientists weren't able to put people on the Moon, you're, in fact, anti-white

It really is that simple
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>>539638604
meh, i avoid labels and groups entirely, i've seen this "little seasonism" popping up everywhere. what i believe is:

the fallen angels rebelled, created a race of nephilim, their descendants are demons. their bodies die, their spirits linger

rabbi's practice demonology and work closely with these demons, the synagogue of satan etc

the watchers (fallen angels) were punished for 70 generations or so (which expired around the 1700s / industrial revolution)

all of our modern advanced like technology etc are satanic inventions designed to control humanity and steer us towards godlessness

and satan is the ultimate "final boss" of this physical realm, yet our Creator allows for him to exist, because life and death is not that big of a deal, and satan is basically the curator of this place, tempting us to do evil and sin. earth is the only place TO sin, and the reason the world leaders are so evil is because they know the rules of the game are that it's just a game, a creation made for us to experience. so they evilmaxx and satan-worship in return for earthly rewards

i think that basically sums up my position, curious to see if you agree or disagree
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>>539638675
von braun himself admitted the moon landings were hoaxed, his tombstone literally has psalms 19:1 on it which is a bible verse talking about the firmament - the physical barrier that would prevent anyone from leaving earth
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>>539638604
>the Little Season of Satan
You're in it since 1903

enjoy the ride
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>>539638660
How God manages all this?
Where is heaven?
Where are the 72 virgins?
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>>539638712
>the fallen angels rebelled, created a race of nephilim, their descendants are demons. their bodies die, their spirits linger
Mega agree. There's also a theory that says that the Nephilim looked like Clowns. You should look it up.
>rabbi's practice demonology and work closely with these demons, the synagogue of satan etc
Yes
>the watchers (fallen angels) were punished for 70 generations or so (which expired around the 1700s / industrial revolution)
Don't know about this one, sounds interesting.
>all of our modern advanced like technology etc are satanic inventions designed to control humanity and steer us towards godlessness
Exact. I struggle with this one because I have a video game addiction.
I will also add in Tartaria (which is the Millennial Reign of Christ), mudfloods, star forts, dinosaurs never existed, nuclear bombs don't exist.
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>>539638712
>the fallen angels rebelled, created a race of nephilim, their descendants are
the Atlanteans, which are the ancestors of the Aryan Race

Read Blavatsky
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>>539638789
>how I feel during Satan's little season
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>>539638790
>How God manages all this ?
He created the universe as a automated machine that govern itself
>Where is heaven ?
Beyond the phisical realm
>Where are the 72 virgins?
We are not muslim here
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>>539637994
pol is infinitely more based than /x; x is like /k, a smaller board that's 99.9% glownigger posts. Truthers get way more leverage on pol.
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>>539628145
Flat earth was an American social conditioning test campaign on our citizens outsourced/framed to be Russians because they made the Infograph’s with Russian sprinkled into the metadata
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>>539638898
>Exact. I struggle with this one because I have a video game addiction.

better to have a video game addiction than to rape kids and harvest their blood for ritualistic uses, etc. babylon is all we know man, i like video games too. and movies, and songs. basically everything available for us to enjoy comes through satan unfortunately. the best thing you can do is treat others in a heavenly way and make this garden more beautiful than you found it. in my opinion, our purpose here is not to "avoid sinning", it's just to enjoy this experience that was made for us. you can be as cringe as you want to be and God will forgive you, after all He allows for satan to continue to exist etc. its just not that big of a deal what happens here on earth. but i personally just think it's way cooler to be heroic and noble, and im grateful to even be given a chance to co-create this place. we are not just helpless NPCs with no power. we are ALL co-creators of this earth, we can end this nightmare tonight of enough of us were on the same page. but satan has the world deceived

>I will also add in Tartaria (which is the Millennial Reign of Christ), mudfloods, star forts, dinosaurs never existed, nuclear bombs don't exist.

tartaria = millenial reign of Christ is interesting to me, its clear that huge swaths of modern history have been taken out and completely erased, and i do agree that there were advanced civilizations before us, wiped out via mudfloods, they were clearly insanely talented at making tunnels as well as building churches and castles and etc in very sophisticated ways. i agree dinosaurs/nuclear bombs dont exist

BABYLON WAGES WAR ON BABYLON
BABYLON VANQUISHES THE EVIL OF BABYLON
BABYLON FALLS AND BABYLON RISES
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>>539638957
https://youtu.be/yLHCm7e0uBg
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>>539639002
Yeah I do agree with you. /x/ isn't very active after all.
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>>539638070
/pol/ is politically incorrect
/x/ is paranormal

Neither are a place for retard flat earth garbage. If you want to shitpost, go to /b/
How fucking new are you?
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>>539630977
>Muh bibble
Protestants are spiritual Jews and go into the fire along with the kikes.
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>>539639054
"the fire" or "going to hell" is a jewish invention, not supported by scripture. nowhere does it say "humans who do bad things get sent to hell", let alone some place of "eternal" punishment, that's just nonsense

>>539639053
flat earth isnt shitposting, its conspiracy research. there's no valid place to talk about it because its the truth
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>>539638456

The leafjeet flat earther unironically believes there's a conspiracy in 4chan to censor flat earther discussion, for him this is politically relevant, imagine that.



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