>>539641999none of those reasons. hint: they sell you poisoned food
>>539642028This food is poisoned it makes me fat
They eat too much, also rely too much on the local fast food and supermarkets to buy all sorts of processed shit.>muh pizza muh pasta muh potatoesIf you eat 1 plate of pasta for lunch and then wait for dinner it's not enough to get fat from that.But if you eat pasta, then potato chips, then chocolate and sweets ("muh heckin' nutella!"), then apericena, then hit the mcdonald, then a lot of sugary drinks it's natural to get fat like a pig.
>>539642351same story everywhere. we're eating way too much food
>>539641999Don't they have the highest life expectancy tho?
>>539641999yeah it's definitely what we have been eating for centuries, not all the processed food and snacks that has become widespread lateley
what’s wrong with being a pig
>>539641999take into account we are the only species on planet earth who have smart devices at our fingertips and most people spend 8+ hours a day infront of screens. we dont do anything physical. pair that with how depressing and easy everything is all we do is eat and lounge. in addition to the new food being poison.that being said, allowing your child to become obese is akin to child abuse. some people just shouldnt have kids (brown people)
>>539641999Theyre getting browner and more bottom heavy
>>539642490People don’t know how to eat anymore, nor they know how to cook, so basically they eat all the wrong food combinations such as carbs with carbs and other shit that spikes sugar in your blood making your tired and fat, just like southern Italians and central/southern Americans ogre always full on fried corn and potatoes.Vid related is from Naples (of course), a city whose people take huge pride on their food culture and yet they eat all the kind of fried goyslop with Nutella, refined flours and sugars, and other subhuman garbage designed to give you addictions.There’s a reason why fascists promoted rice consumption instead of pasta back in the good old days…but no, we’re a clown country so we have to be the eternal stereotype of pizza mafia and mandolino with fellow Italians applauding.Just nuke us and get over with it.
>>539642028(((carb))) goyslop are the poison
>>539641999>protein makes you fatthat's even more absurd than dietary fat making people fat
>>539641999Oh God, not the protein!Friendly reminder bodybuilders with 10% bodyfat are considered overweight according to BMI.>be 180cm>100kg absolutely jacked>BMI 30,9>Grade 1 Obesity
>>539642028>>539642127unironically, they put something in either water or food or both that fucks the liver and pancreas so that they don't produce enough bullshit to deal with the food you put inside your bodythey didn't need to make all food more fatty, or add more sugar to it, only to poison it enough to mess with the pancreas and liver to make you process food in an inferior waypeople used to eat the same shit 20-40-60-80 years ago and didn't get fat from it, nowdays they do at an accelerated waygrow your own food or keep eating poison and die from fat fuck related diseases
>>539641999>protein>overweightnah, sugar leads to overweightorganism needs to process protein and even fat to change it into own fat reserveswith sugar it's step easier/faster
>>539641999I don't know, maybe read the article you subtard.
According to the article it is happening mainly in the south, so I wonder if it is pollution. There's a theory that parts of the US has a severe obesity issue because of lithium in the water supply.The article doesn't make it sound like normal weight gain. Something is making children voraciously hungry to the point they are massively overweight even as toddlers.
>>539641999gluten
>>539643233kek>gluten, lactose, eggsThe Three Horsemen of the Nutrition.Bonus points for pollen allergy. Maybe nickel too.
>>539643137What if I don't agree with the article? I wanna hear the opinion of /pol/ experts.
>>539643459Calories in, calories out.There you go.
>>539643459>give me the facts /pol/>um actually, I don't like facts, give me the opinions of 70 IQ brownoids
>>539643459hmm lemme check my references and notes. Yes, indeed, the real cause for obesity in southern Italy according to my notes is... Jews.
>>539641999mama mia
>>539643459Fat retarded cunts eat too much goyslop. The end.
>>539641999If an Italian doesn't consume 20,000 carbs a day, they will physically decline until death
>>539643522If the options are a bunch of skinnyfat DYEL kikes and a bunch of shredded 70IQ niggers I'll take the nigger's advice.
>>539642028It’s not “poisoned” it’s just full of calories. Sure ultra-processed food is full of mystery ingredients but that doesn’t make you fat it’s the calories that make you fat. Stabilizers and preservatives and dyes don’t make you fat. People don’t realize what they eat, they chow down on hundreds of calories of food that isn’t satiating and then they do it again and again while washing it down with drinks that are also full of calories (unless it’s water or diet soda).
It's because Italian mothers love their kids
>>539642887Carbs were never an issue until "carbs" started meaning foods that are 40% to 60% fat by caloric intake.
>>539642903Macronutrients aren't making people fat. Excess caloric surplus from snacking culture, hyperpalatable foods and sedentary lifestyles are why people are fat.
>>539641999There's definitely something in Western food that makes people fatter and less healthy.Was on holiday in Vietnam for about a month and ended up losing 5 kilos without changing my diet and exercise habits all that much. Even the junk food like McDonalds there somehow felt less bloating than the stuff back home.
>>539641999I thought le mediterranean diet was the best thing ever and that they all lived to 120 years with zero heart failure. Perhaps gorging on pastaslop and bread isn't the best idea.
>>539643066>self controll>nah its the fault of the others
>>539647140You got a tapeworm while in you were there anon.
>>539647210no amount of self control protects you from drugs being administered to you with no consent or knowledge of themyou can only self control if you grow and process your own food which most people don't
>>539642351>They eat too much, local fast food and supermarkets to buy all sorts of processed shit.This. >But if you eat pasta, then potato chips, then chocolate and sweets ("muh heckin' nutella!"),> then apericena, then hit the mcdonald,> then a lot of sugary drinks it's natural to get fat like a pig. Yep exactly. the reason is processed wheat and sugar. >NutellaWholly crap ,brown candy with palm oil . banned kids from asking me to buy this crap.>>539642028>pizza pasta Carbs, Processed wheat likely, low quality. Blood sugar jumps. >potatoesIn US likely fries that's garbage. Possibly mashed potatoes, that's garbage.
>>539641999Italians could eat that way because they walked a lot. Now they don't.
>>539643066Back when it was affordable I had an all organic diet. I dropped 40lbs in 3 months with no exercise. I don't think it's "calories in, calories out" as people over simplify. I think your body processes things differently, and synthetic/pesticide laden food leads to a fatty liver. Due to the cost of living skyrocketing I degraded to semi-organic and "all natural". I regained 20lbs unfortunately. I miss the mid 2010s cause organic was cheap and there was alot of variety too. Using a brand of chips I liked as a reference it went from 2.5$ in 2019 to 4.5$ in 2022. Some brands I liked even dropped organic and went all natural all while still raising the price.
>>539647514>>Nutella>Wholly crap ,brown candy with palm oil .Basic rule of thumb .All ingredients must be listed by volume. If the 1st or 2nd ingredient is Sugar or HFCS / corn syrup. What you are buying is CANDY and not food. >or liquid candy if it is a drink. Stop buying candy, and start buying food again.
>>539647378i was never fat, my brother was fat.just because he was a lazy fuck that tripple the amount of my portions
>>539643193It's actually north Italy than has a unique pollution belt, it's called the Po valley. Southern Italy tends to be poorer, and poor people don't read labels/look into things. I think more globohomo junk food it making its rounds and southern Italians are less disconcerning than northern ones.
>>539642028>it's not my fault i'm an obese fat lardRetarded ape.
>>539647235Nah got a full health checkup when I came back, all clear.
>>539641999I am calling it now they are poisoning the food in Italy, people all getting fat all of a sudden and all the kids obsessed with italian brainrot buying mass produced brainot toys. Start testing your shit now Italy
>>539641999Italy has some of the most obese children in Europe, but also one of the lowest obesity rates in the general population. Italian grandmas love to fatten their nephews up. They grow out of it during puberty.
it's the noodles which make you fat
>>539647053Correct. Carbs are still not an issue if you avoid those types of foods like snack foods. You need carbs to be athletic. The anti-carb cult echo chamber that infects these threads can automatically be assumed to be unathletic sedentary fatties. The might larp and project themselves to be muscular Chads but when you’re on ketogenic diets you use up your glycogen which is stored in water in your muscles and deflates them. Your body needs carbs for athletic performance, it’s very difficult on ketosis.
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>>539642808Being poor helps.I've learned to cook a lot of food from scratch after becoming poor. Mostly beans. It bought me 3 more years of a roof.
>>539642808>rice consumptionMakes you short. Wtf is with Italians? Just have meat and dairy.
>>539641999Gabagool
>>539643193>Something is making children voraciously hungry to the point they are massively overweight even as toddlers.Garbage food just does that, it's addictive on top of having no nutrients, so you get the double effect of your body wanting nutrients (asking for more food) and your brain feeling good about the taste wanting more of that.
>>539648674Imagine Julius Caesar looking down on you and cringing at how utterly pathetic you are.>i'm fat cuz of those evil food companies! it's not my fault!
>>539648727based retard
>>539648525you can't compare that.
>>539648791>you can't compare populations who eat a shit load of carbs and are thin with my fat retarded german arse
>>539648727>Imagine Julius Caesar looking down on you and cringing at how utterly pathetic you are.>>i'm fat cuz of those evil food companies! it's not my fault!gaius would have had corn syrup producing boomers strung up along the roadside
>>539648821relax nigel
>>539643193>at parts of the US has a severe obesity issue because of lithium in the water supply.No . it's because of 1. sugar and corn syrup that is added everywhere , including 2. ALL drinks . and 3. Processed wheat white flour> that is sprayed with pesticides, like Monsanto's Roundup . 4. Fast food potatoes are sprayed with peptides and processed etc. > Something is making children voraciously hungry to the point they are massively overweight even as toddlers. Food is 1) sugar , and 2) processed garbage that is missing vitamins , nutrients and required good fats.
>>539648727gaius would have had corn syrup producing boomers, along with London banksters controlled food monopolies directors , and their bankers , strung up along the roadside
>>539648257There is no difference in muscle glycogen levels between keto-adapted and carb-fueled athletes after a significant (read: months, not the typical few days or handful of weeks seen in studies) adaptation period has taken place. This is known as "fat adaptation", it's not just some urban legend, it's a real phenomenon.
>>539649046Cool. Do you know anything about how the appetite adapts to keto?
>>539649046Sorry, forgot to link the study:https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0026049515003340>Peak fat oxidation was 2.3-fold higher in the LC group (1.54 ± 0.18 vs 0.67 ± 0.14 g/min; P = 0.000) and it occurred at a higher percentage of VO2max (70.3 ± 6.3 vs 54.9 ± 7.8%; P = 0.000). Mean fat oxidation during submaximal exercise was 59% higher in the LC group (1.21 ± 0.02 vs 0.76 ± 0.11 g/min; P = 0.000) corresponding to a greater relative contribution of fat (88 ± 2 vs 56 ± 8%; P = 0.000). Despite these marked differences in fuel use between LC and HC athletes, there were no significant differences in resting muscle glycogen and the level of depletion after 180 min of running (− 64% from pre-exercise) and 120 min of recovery (− 36% from pre-exercise).
>>539647053>fatIRRELEVANT. A food industry fake news and a scam. Good fat is required by your body, and humans ate good fats FOREVER. >also fats don't make you fat, that's another industrial food industry scam>sugar is what makes you fat.
>>539649134Fat and protein are generally more filling than carbohydrates. Subjectively, I feel far more satiety on keto than I do while eating lots of carbs. It's harder for me to get the same number of calories in on keto despite fat being far more calorically dense than the other macronutrients.
>>539649046>>539649138>athletesIrrelevant. Athletes use 3000-4000 calories / day and they try to build mussels so they can COMPETE in SPORTS. Completely different situation for 99.9% of the normal adults .If a normal adult would eat 3000 - 4000 calories/ day, you WOULD BE FAT.
>>539648921>4. Fast food potatoes are sprayed with PESTICIDES and processed etc.
>>539649046That’s complete and utter bullshit. Glycogen is glucose stores, you don’t have any on ketogenic diets. That’s the whole point of “ketosis”. Everybody knows you can’t be on carnivore or keto and be athletic. That’s why everybody shilling these diets is a sedentary fat piece of shit pretending a high saturated fat diet is good for you and all the research and studies that say otherwise are outdated from the 60s. And their elevated lipids means it’s working. The echo chamber bullshit belongs on fucking Reddit. You’re in a cult. You all need to be bashed over the head with a bottle of seed oil.
>>539649336Hilarious that you keep throwing the "irrelevant" accusation around, when what you posted is LITERALLY irrelevant. The argument was that keto results in decreased glycogen stores, which is untrue after adaptation.>musselsnevermind, you're a retard, carry on.
>>539649605Sorry, you're wrong, science is correct.>Twenty elite ultra-marathoners and ironman distance triathletes performed a maximal graded exercise test and a 180 min submaximal run at 64% VO2max on a treadmill to determine metabolic responses. One group habitually consumed a traditional high-carbohydrate (HC: n = 10, %carbohydrate:protein:fat = 59:14:25) diet, and the other a low-carbohydrate (LC; n = 10, 10:19:70) diet for an average of 20 months (range 9 to 36 months).>Despite these marked differences in fuel use between LC and HC athletes, there were no significant differences in resting muscle glycogen and the level of depletion after 180 min of running (− 64% from pre-exercise) and 120 min of recovery (− 36% from pre-exercise).>And their elevated lipids means it’s working.Lol, go ahead and post your lipids, fatty. Here's mine eating 2lbs+ of meat a day.
>>539642028yuropoors told me that's impossible because their government loves them or something
>>539649681>keto Irrelevant to normal humans , as you can't live longer than 1-2 years on Keto. Humans are NOT carnivores.
even when I was young many kids tended to be fatter but at least for whatever reason obesity then goes down as you go up in the age range, so many if not most of those fatty kids will thin out
>>539649605>Glycogen is glucose stores, you don’t have any on ketogenic diets>what is glycerol>what are glucogenic amino acidsGluconeogenesis. Your liver can do it and it becomes exceptionally efficient at it when it needs to. This is fat adaptation.
>>539649681>obviously we are going to ignore the largest animals>who aren't carnivores.>elephants, cows , giraphes, etc>muh blah muuuuusssles are important and I am following 0.01% of the population ,athletes Buddy you are not a carnivore, and you are not an athlete. You need to figure out what 99.9% of adults eat that's making them healthy . And what they avoid, and why. Keto and Carnivore is a marketing bs. Keto temporarily works because you stop eating sugar and processed white flour .
>>539641999italian kids are nowhere near as overweight as american kids>t. goes to italy all the time
>>539650057Exactly. I am going to simplify. There are 3 energy mechanisms right now that are known in the body.1. Electricity.>Sodium-Potassium pump 2. Glucose , and 3. Fat When there's Waaay too much glucose, body stores it as fat. This fat is later used as energy .
>>539648168this could be true. very hard to refuse nonna's cooking. but i think it's overstated in obesity compared to america.
>>539642808i-is it true in napoli they deep-fry pizzas too?
>>539641999>>539642028its because theyre anti vax
