>Molly was the color of television, tuned to a brown channel.
>>539661137poop color
Fuck's sake, William, more nogs
>>539661137Negromancer
>>539661137Yet another thing I love, destroyed.
>>539661137what is this shit
>>539661137She's perfect.
>>539661137Molly’s ethnicity is explicitly established in William Gibson’s Neuromancer. She is described as "full-Asiatic” (originally spelled “full-assiatic” in the 1984 text) with East Asianfeatures, most commonly interpreted as Chinese or Japanese descent. Her surname, Dorsett, suggests English/European ancestry on one side, making her culturally and genetically mixed but visually and narratively coded as Asian American (or Pan-Asian).There is no mention of her being pale or caucasian-skinned. The name Dorsett merely suggests mixed ancestry from the States or Uk, there are many dark skinned people in the US and England with anglophone names.The novel describes her features and bone structure, but does not hint at her having caucasian or otherwise light skin color. Also does it nowhere mention or exclude that she is of dark skinned southwestern asian descent.
>>539662125>Also does it nowhere mention or exclude that she is of dark skinned southwestern asian descent.You gave it away here at the end
>>539661767Morpheus was a cool in that role though, he was always a black nerd archetype so I always liked him in scifi roles. The glock 18 and katana scenes were the ironic synthesis of black and weeb culture in perhaps the only noncringe format possible. Why I can't feel the same way about newer media I'll never understand. Ghost was a real nigga incel stuck on a ship with a bitch that would never love him back. His lines in the movies and video game were far more relatable than the superman mc.
>>539662125>but does not hint at her having caucasian or otherwise light skin color.Wrong.
>>539662278Morpheus was a fantastic character. No idea how they made a stocky guy like Lawrence Fishburn look cool in every scene, but they did.
>>539662278I'm not talking shit about matrix, this is a Neuromancer thread.
>>539662125She could be Asian or white, but her skin is explicitly described as pale.
>>539661686Gibson uses “assyatice” to distinguish her from the European/white characters in terms of structure, e.g., higher cheekbones and epicanthic folds, but he does not exclude darker pigmentation.East Asia is vast. Populations in Southern China, Vietnam, Indonesia, Malaysia, and parts of Japan have historically had medium-to-dark skin tones that can easily fall into what many might colloquially describe as “dark” or “bronze,” rather than the pale porcelain often associated with Northern European standards of “light.” So probably what he had in mind was pic related.Just use AI on the final movie to bleach the actor.
>>539662682>multiple anons have explicitly quoted the book describing Molly as pale>better keep lying and say she could be a groid or a jeet, you just never know!
>>539662495Never saw it, your pic just revived core memories.
>>539662125>>539662682Why do you keep lying, Kraut?Also, is it true you guys love Shadowrun?
>>539662278>Ghost was a real niggaWait ghost dog the way of the samurai?
>>539662647I'm pretty sure the later books describe as pale too.
>>539662495I had a dream like this yesterday, only instead of a ball there was a bird - what does it mean?
>>539661137>>539662125>>539662299>>539662647>>539662227ok i am sorry i am a retard and unworthy ontop all i claimed is wrong and i apologizeWilliam Gibson posted on Twitter (as @GreatDismal):“Key iconic for Molly was C. Hynde on first Pretenders album cover, as I've said countless times.”Wikipedia and other sources cite this (and related tweets) as the basis for the statement. He has referred to it more than once.pic related is the model, apple tv casting Briana Middleton did not follow canonpic related for reference what the author stated was the inspiration
is that the one that makes you poop?
>>539662278The Matrix is the only good Matrix movie. The sequels and everything else, including the Animatrix, is trash.
it's so tiresome
>>539663087a bird shat on my watch this evening as i was entering the bike shed, time to go to bed
>>539662753>>539662879yayayaseems like apple tv did understand that the universe in which the story is set full of body modification etc would allow for the character to have black skin as long as the facial features remained asiatic now what ? looks like they did it againone white piece of subculture at a time blacked, and apparently whites dont do anything about the displacement of their "culture" in the mediacan we talk about this ? or are you mad that i made a mistake for which i already apologised after noticing ? ( it takes some time to write posts you know )
>>539663176True, and I believe it was between the original Matrix and the first sequel when the wachalski bothers trooned out.
>>539662879 >>539662753>>539662647 >>539662299>>539662227 >>539663393Ok so nobody wants to talk about it, fine, then i am going to talk to myself about it...basicallyCopyright / adaptation rights give the studio the legal ability to alter characters, appearance, plot, and details when making a film or series. The novel’s text does not lock every physical trait into the screen version.Also, William Gibson is listed as an executive producer on the Apple TV+ series. That means he has involvement and has effectively approved the production, including casting choices.They including the Author himself, are simply expanding the definition of “assyatice” to fit its natural diversity in Gibson’s future world.So much for that.You all need to touch grass.
Imagine if rosa parks was played by a white actress in a historical drama. It is ok in one direction but not the other, it is ok to replace and remake western legacy media, but not the other way around. Why is that?
>>539663902eat shit, nigger
>>539663902you are a narrative control shill and an inciter. You are attacking a strawman argument. The argument isn't whether it's legal, of course it's legal. The real argument is why is this happening more and more and why does internet "culture" only deem it ok to replace white subculture and not other cultures?
he gave away the rights and they change the perception of the novel in the public image by changing the appearance of characters while he is watching
>>539664097you know why its happeningthe issue at hand is here 1) why does nobody do anything effectively against it ? and 2) why do authors such as gibson cooperate in this ?
>>539664033>eat shit, nigger get ragebaited and enjoy paying for the Negromancer series, homo
>>539664370That never happens to me, there are stronger men than you out there.
>>539662125Ooof. nerd culture getting wrecked on every front. They got us surrounded, boys
>>539664303>why do huge corporations have so much influence over media production? Is this a real question? Its money. Dude also is going to be some variant of west coast vancouverite liberal bullshit so they're getting paid to promote an ideology they at worst, are indifferent to but likely whole heartedly endorse.
>>539662682>It doesn't exclude brown so it must be brownListen to yourself for one second retard.
we wuz sci fi n shiieet
Oil drillers have been eating real good
>>539663176I'm not a weeb so I don't know personally but I've heard it's basically a reskin of Ghost in the shell or something like that. They took the same story and dumbed it down for the average movie goy but the success of the first one fucked them up big time and the rapid decline in quality is obvious. The first one, especially when it came out but even today, is actually good though.
>>539664198>adaptation is their creation, not mine>sourcing from his workThey can't create, only corrupt our works. never sell out
>>539664097>The real argument is why is this happening more and more and why does internet "culture" only deem it ok to replace white subculture and not other cultures?Now, they can claim that they have established Molly as a half-african character and just let it continue to be that way in future spin-offs, etc. This way, they can also keep making her darker without anyone having the right to complain:>"What are you, some kind of autist who complains just because her skin color is just a tiny bit darker in this third spin-off series?"10 years later, she'll look like a fully black African and people will claim that "her pale skin" just symbolizes her innocence or whatever and another established white character has been successfully removed from media.
>>539664583>Its money.>Dude also is going to be some variant of west coast vancouverite liberal bullshitok cool so then how is this being worshipped so hard ? why dont these "fans" make their own "based" neuromancer clone and dont take the money / become libtards ? how did gibson become popular back in the days ? why is it that seemingly noone can replicate this "success" ? especially in these days ? are / is gossip goblin the only one ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyZhC2TXgcsapparently a handfull of dedicated people can pull this off these days, why has "/pol/" ( or anyone else ) never produced anything remotely similar before ? my suggestion would be, do a clone of neuromancer, like pomegranate by gossip goblin and ??? why is it that APPARENTLY nobody does something ? (something meaning effectively against the "blackening" of "white culture" ( worshipped even if created by sellouts? ) that is basically the topic here) what is the difference in the people that complain and bemoan and the people that do things and create so they have the opportunity to resist the money and libtardation as alledged before ? some people create, others consume ? could this be that easy ?
>>539664943as established, he sold the rights and is cooperating in the production, even though he has waived all his rights apparently because he has some plausible deniability of it being a different piece of art or whatever, its probably even legal text somewhere but effectively is a loophole to corrupt culture, anyways, why did he comply, money ? indoctrination ? ok ? so the based author got turned, people still follow his work, can it be that good if its creater succumbed the money / indoctrination / personal training ? anyways, fast forward, to the main question, why are there so few creators ? are they being blocked from becoming famous ? do they try to make it for the money and are therefor contained by publishers ? if there was a creator with the right intentions would they not publish thir work for the sake of their work on places like /pol/ ? why would they first go to a comped publisher and expose themselves to corruption ? why are there so few virtuous creators ?
>>539664583It's not money this shit has been proven unprofitable. It's not a product, it's propaganda. You are being bombarded with propaganda and they merely have to make it to be successful. Your kids wont know or care that there was a different world before, and if their lame parents try to explain it they will just be obstinate and the propaganda takes hold harder.
>>539664874neuromancer was first, so if, gits got probably inspired by gibsons science fiction maybe gibson was inspired by akira ? who knows, does it matter ? the futurist timeline they all paint out seems to be relatively accuratethis is why i dont understand how it matters IN THIS CASE how its somehow a problem casting a black actress for that character when the SCIENCE FICTION ( yeah) universe allows for body modification etc, but somehow people sperg out about skin color when even the original author was involved as some kind of advisor >>539666148sure its apparent that they are doing this intentionally but in this case ? i mean come on...
>>539662125>Molly’s ethnicity is explicitly established in William Gibson’s Neuromancerthis is completely falsethe closest he gets in any of the books she is in is>smooth pale skin
Neuromancer is one of those books I've read that literally cannot be a movie, it just won't encapsulate what's going on. The way Gibson described the jamaican space pirates, for example, made them look so badass but if you try to put a Rastafarian in a space suit, it's just silly.I'm not going to watch this or any adaptation of the book, it's holy. It's pure. Also, it's clear that Hollywood does this shit to demoralize white people, but I'm not falling for it.
>>539661137michael obamur ?
>>539666690>I'm not falling for it.your inaction also does not prevent it from happening why is nobody doing something ?
>>539666369She wasn't brown hans.
>>539664303>1) why does nobody do anything effectively against itwell people talk shitthen people believe that shitand give the people money who made that shitit stops when people stop giving them moneyi suppose youve made taken first steps >>539663097 to rectifying the issue>ok i am sorry i am a retard and unworthy ontop all i claimed is wrong and i apologizebut you are/were complicit to some degreeyou need only look in the mirror to understand why
