“Many comrades seem to study Marxism-Leninism not to meet the needs of revolutionary practice, but purely for the sake of study. Consequently, though they read, they cannot digest. They can only cite odd quotations from Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin in a one-sided manner, but are unable to apply the stand, viewpoint and method of Marx, Engels, Lenin and Stalin to the concrete study of China’s present conditions and her history or to the concrete analysis and solution of the problems of the Chinese revolution. Such an attitude towards Marxism-Leninism does a great deal of harm, particularly among cadres of the middle and higher ranks.”- Mao Zedong (1941)
Mao > Marx > Stalin > Lenin > Trotsky
>>539671043stalin is nothing without lenin though. stalin was leninist himself.
>>539671162Stalin was Leninist in name only. His actual ideas went against most of the things Lenin preached.
theyre all faggot anarchists who got lucky we could extract nitrogen from air. now everythings fucked and hinges on jewish psycho babble and censorship as a last ditch attempt to stave the violence these snake crooks deserve
>>539670818>>539671043You're fucking peasants. China would have developed just fine under capitalism. You're a slave cast that's been forced to worship the people who robbed you blind.
>>539670818Glad to know communists not understanding communism was a widespread understanding even almost 100 years ago.
Communism is a jewish economic system designed to siphon wealth from the working class to the ruling class
>>539671519With capitalism China would be like India today. No, thanks.
To be revolutionary you must invent something new.It's wise to study past until you build your potential, but trying to revive ghosts of past is as revolutionary as LARPing old battles. A true revolutionary would only take inspiration from past and form his own system according to current reality. Those who call them Marxists, Maoists or whatever without adding something new are no revolutionaries.At this point having internet, AI and global connectivity as integral part of any new system is essential to improve and rival whatever is around.
>>539671738did you invent anything new yet?
>>539670818> U.S. Ambassador to the Soviet Union W. Averell] Harriman passed on to [Vice President Henry A.] Wallace the views Soviet Premier Joseph Stalin had related to him on June 10, 1944. Stalin said Chiang Kai-shek was the best man available to run China under existing circumstances. He maintained the Chinese Reds were “not real Communists” but “margarine Communists.”
>>539672494Wow Stalin would never lie!!
>>539672650*sigh*> Despite American suspicion of Soviet connections with the Chinese Communists, Stalin’s endorsement of Chiang as the best Chinese leader and his rejection of the Chinese Reds as legitimate Communists were in fact accurate reflections of his thinking.>Stalin knew what the rest of the world did not know at the time: although the Russians had instigated formation of the Chinese Communist party in 1921, Mao Zedong had repudiated Soviet control in 1935 and had eased out of the topmost positions the “twenty-eight Bolsheviks,” young Chinese trained in Russia who had been running the party largely as an arm of the Comintern. Mao also had turned Marxist doctrine on its head. In China, Mao asserted, the revolution would be won by the oppressed peasants, not, as Marxist theory called for, by the industrial proletariat, which represented less than 1 percent of the Chinese population. Although Mao spoke of himself as a Marxist, to Soviet Communists he was an apostate, both because of his heretical beliefs and his rejection of Soviet direction.>American leaders did not know it, but in 1944 the Soviet Union had no hold whatsoever over the Chinese Communist movement. In fact, it existed wholly independent of any other force and already had acquired an immense confidence that it would gain control of China because it offered the downtrodden masses relief from their misery, while the Nationalists offered nothing but more exploitation and poverty.
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>>539670818Trotksy > Lenin > Marx > Stalin > Mao
>>539673025>His favorite revolutionary was the failed one.
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>>539673025> t. I only read books and have never accomplished anything of value in my life
>>539671519>You're a slave cast that's been forced to worship the people who robbed you blind.that's rich coming from our flag.
>>539672493Never. Knowing what you are, what you can do and what you shouldn't even try is an important wisdom to learn. Otherwise you can spend all your life and energy just fighting yourself.
>>539672767>quotes from ??? says sowow, im convinced!
>>539673025coincidentally that's the order of their intelligence from highest to lowest
>>539674123>be Stalin>Georgian peasant>become Mafia don of Georgia>rob banks>weasel your way into an entirely Jewish party>become leader of that party>execute all the Jews LOL>win the most consequential war in all of human history>become the most absolute and supreme ruler in all of history>execute 40 million russians and their descendants worship you for ityeah, he wasn't very smart.
>>539673421It’s a quote from military historian Bevin Alexander but it doesn’t really matter. This is very, very basic 101 stuff that you should already know.https://youtu.be/UPa1yxtO1bc?is=LRpmgIKcUg2OjX4O
>>539674264i never said i don't love the guy
>>539674268>It’s a quote from military historian Bevin Alexander but it doesn’t really matter.don't know or care who that is>>539674268>This is very, very basic 101i love when autistic faggots take really niche shit that nobody cares about and pretend it's common knowledge>fyi -- nobody cares
>>539670818Yeah modern "Commies" are actually just pseudo-intellectual debate fags who namedrop and think regurgitating shit from books make them smart. A Commies greatest fear is being exposed for how stupid they are and nothing else. It's insecurity wearing a political mask.
>>539673096>>539673213>revolution of 1905>recorded february revolution>recorded october revolution>helped establish soviet union>diplomat>civilian that was military leader>was Lenin's choice to be heir, not stalinmad, comrade?
>>539674335you believe the george costanza-tier jewish autist known as trotsky to be uber intelligent meanwhile he gets outmanuevered by the 'midwit' Stalin who systematically eliminated his enemies and won every battle he ever fought.How do you autists quantify "intelligence" if winning literally everything isn't enough for you? Does he need to mske witty pol screencaps to satisfy your bullshit?
>>539673284hey why don't you post another dramatic reply on the chinese basketweaving board?
>>539674549lying is not a sign of intelligence. purging people you don't like and making your system of power inefficient is not a sign of intelligence. "socialism in one country" is not an economic theory
>>539674605>lying is not a sign of intelligencehe says in defense of a JEWHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>539674509>Had all that going for him>Still fucked it all up and died in exile.Not the flex you think it is
>>539671043Trotsky was a narcissist who was personally jealous of the uneducated peasant Stalin usurping him. All of his complaints about muh bureaucracy, muh authoritarianism were totally disingenuous.
>>539671043Lenin > (Engels) > Mao >Stalin > Marx > TrotskyYou're welcome, zigger.
>>539674268Mao was an employee of Yale University.
>>539674798>Not even other communists give a shit about Che
>>539674605There is no higher measure of intelligence than manipulating your enemies you fucking retard.
>>539674798>>539671043>>539673025>>539674123Stalin>>Mao>>(power gap)>>Lenin>>Marx>>(power gap)>>>>Trotsky
>>539674760no, he was pissed off at stalin because stalin repeatedly missed the point of international proletarian revolution and only focused on nationalism.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenin%27s_Testamenthttps://www.marxists.org/history/etol/newspape/ni/vol02/no01/lenin.htm>>539674727>>539674709>>539674996>>539675005
>>539670818In other words, don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.
>>539675020>Socialism in one stateBecause Stalin knew the USSR could not support perpetual revolution in its current condition.
>>539673025If Trotsky had been successful, his agrarian policies and idealism would have prevented Russia from becoming strong as Stalin made it. Russia would not been sufficiently industrialized, there would be no waves of T-34, and Germany would have crushed them.
>>539674889Why would "they"? Che publicly outed himself as retard with one charismatic image. He was irrelevant in philosophy, means and strategy.>>539675005The zigger flag gets a pass, but posting this unironically under an american flag is just moronic.
>>539671639India is the way it is because pajeets are retarded shitskins who can barely be asked not to defecate in public roadways, not because of capitalism
>>539675247>posting this unironically under an american flag is just moronic.I'm not a communist. I respect power. And Stalin wielded the most power of any man in history.Your smattering of theoreticians just reeks of autism. Are you a college educated individual by chance?
>>539674264>>execute 40 million russiansidiot
>>539674509>>was Lenin's choice to be heir, not stalinnigga what
>>539675630>idiotsound argument turkroach.
>>539675690He's correct. You're regurgitating ridiculous propaganda.
>>539674605>"socialism in one country" is not an economic theorywartorn country like russia couldnt export revolution abroad without developing the country and cementing soviet goverment
>>539675700>mfw I've actually read through Stalin's archives and saw his endless death lists and some failed state Cucknadian thinks he can speak
>>539674889he was not theorian like other guys listed and many people still remember che. who will remember you after your death?
>>539675767Stalin did not even order 1 million executions let alone 40 million. You're a retard trying to look smart.
>>539675174trotsky was the first to point out industrialization needed to happen and fully supported it. stalin literally stole trotsky's ideas. no need to lie, anon.
>>539671043>FlagKysStalin>>>Marx>Lenin>Mao>Trozky
>>539675247>Che publicly outed himself as retardhe was a doctor
>>539675817>armchair historian speakswow, this really lattes my marx
>>539675103stalin failed to render substantial aid to african nations, leaving them to be exploited by the capitalist u.s. and european colonialism.
>>539674760Objectively speaking, Trotsky was very populist and charismatic when organizing masses. He was however very megalomaniac which resulted in him cutting off everyone who wasn't entirely subservient to him.But he had substantial following especially in the west later on. He is actually a lot similar to Nick Fuentes today. The similarity in tactics and organization is scary similar.
>>539675690we can only laugh at you. only most brainless american would believe that someone could kill 40 million people.
>>539675809I don't care if no one remembers me. Humanity is not perpetual. Eventually we will all be forgotten, including people like Lenin, Stalin or Marx. So your argument is inane because we all get forgotten eventually
>>539675809Che was an unreliable revolutionary, his alignment fickle and his ideals inconsistent. He is mostly remembered for being very photogenic.>>539675827Trotsky specifically criticized Stalin's "breakneck speed" (Trotsky's word) of industrialization, only to be proven hilariously wrong when it proved critical to stopping the fascists.>>539675921>if I am confident enough, even a ridiculous lie will be believed!Anon, if you can cite a reliable historical source saying Stalin ordered executions on 40 million people, I will get circumcised and start listening to techno.
>>539674760>narcissist>>539675948>megalomaniacyou heard it here, folks. trotsky was a monster but stalin never purged anyone and was totally level headed and not paranoid whatseover.
>>539675948man, dont compare someone like trotsky with e celeb faggot. trotsky was on frontlines during civil war. stalin was capricious too but he could joke around and make friends. trotsky was too obssesed with ideas. stalin was practical.
>>539675987>his ideals inconsistent.why do you ignore that he died while fighting for ideas?
>>539676159He died well, I do not deny it. I was talking about how he lived.
>>539675987>proven hilariously wrong about fascists>but also there was like, famine and misallocation of resources and inefficiencies, but it was cool, don't worry about it
>>539675974>welol>>539675987the red tsar
>>539676211There were enormous famines before Stalin's rule as well. However there were none afterwards, proving that collectivization was a success despite the rough start.
>>539676211 >Hitler: "...a very serious danger, perhaps the most serious one—its whole extent we can only now judge. We did not ourselves understand—just how strong this state [the USSR] was armed.">Mannerheim: "No, we hadn't thought of this.">Hitler: "No, I too, no."Mannerheim: "During the Winter War—during the Winter War we had not even thought of this. Of course..."
>>539676249That book simply does not say that Stalin ordered the execution of 40 million people. Have you read it?
stalin killed all people lived in ussr. actually it was ghost army stalin spawned from another galaxy defeated german army.
>>539676250>there were none afterwardshttps://youtu.be/jWTGsUyv8IE
>>539676381>but look! there were shortages!Anon, what kind of enormous famine results in 0 deaths? Are you so retarded you cannot tell the difference between shortages and enormous famines?
>>539676381>89soviet system totally collapsed at this point thanks to idiot gorbachev
>>539676429>>539676509cope.
>>539676719a stale meme from a loser with no argument. an actual man would just admit he was wrong.
>>539675340University, although EE.>>539675919>doctors can't be retardsRemember covid? This thread aside, there's a reason they're not included in STEM. Most medical students never research or *do* anything, they just memorise like historians.
>>539670818Faàaaaaaaaaag
>>539676719coping with what?
>>539676820>>539676973>>539677075You are all poor btwI am richfeels good to be a capitalist. Seethe. Go make me some coffee, baristas
>>539677186>this is all he has left>it's not even true
>>539676009Stalin's paranoia was objectively justified because if you look at the late communist party officials, all of them are capitalists now in the Russian Federation.They are not the top dog oligarchs, those came from somewhere else, no idea where.But the nomenklatura is still very rich. And same happened in Yugoslavia. They became a sort of monarchy here. If you are a child of someone with a high ranking "red card" you basically have all the connections in the industry
>Have functioning society generating unprecedented security, wealth and prosperity>Attack all features and structures of said society and think it will make it betterCommunism is about rounding up all the dysgenics, degenerates and lumpenproles and setting them against everyone else, rather like a giant BLM riot.
>>539677186That's cope.
>>539677295communists put first manmade object into space btw.
>>539677715No it was was Nazis you roach
>>539677229>>539677424>admitting youre poor
Enver Hoxha...Juche, but a tender hearted butcher.
>>539675945After a terrible war the USSR was utterly sick and exhausted. They were in no condition to extend themselves into far flung adventures. They still aren't apparently.
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