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Let me guess. Chuddies will now cope and seethe about this because........?
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>>539709981
>Mamdani run stores will be 30% cheaper
This is the claim. The reality will be very different.
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It's just like free healthcare. It's not free, the money is coming from somewhere in your pocket They just haven't told you yet.
And let's be real. Can you name one thing the government has done more efficient than the private sector?
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>>539709981
>tax funded
>30% cheaper
>why are taxes so high I don't understand.
At least your illegals will be well fed and thriving. This is important for democracy.
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>>539709981
Why pay anything? Why not just steal? They're never gonna prosecute you
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>>539709981
So every month it's 30% cheaper than the current prices?
If inflation keeps going on it's going to overcome this 30% offset soon enough.
In the long-run it inflates just as much but with a lag.
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>>539709981
I cant wait to see how long these last.
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>>539709981
Did he bring the chinkesses up there with him for commie street cred?
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>>539710213
TAX KIKES AND MIGGERS TO DEATH
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>>539709981
niggers are just going to shoplift from them anyway lmao
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>>539710804
What happens when you run out of other people's money?
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>>539710104
Will the reality be different? To me the only actual issue is supply -- but I am making some assumptions that could be wrong.

I'm assuming they are using city-owned buildings for their retail space, so they don't need to kick up rent. I'm assuming they don't have shareholders, so again they don't need to kick up rent. It seems pretty possible to me that you have your 30% right there.
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>>539710862
who cares. you're dead. that's all that matters fucking kike
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>>539709981
niggers will just rob them anyway lmao. it's cute how leftists think lowering prices will prevent nogs from doing what they're genetically programmed to do.
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>>539710213
yeah, thats money that could be sent to israel. fuck off kike
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>>539710936
Kek, there that low iq leftism
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>>539710104
imagine thinking the city can't get bulk discounts or move goods quickly and cheaply
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>>539710213
This is not actually true. Depending on the level of government, taxes don't fund things. At the level of currency issuance (this means federal in the US), all government spending is covered by newly issued money. Taxes just delete money from the supply.

So the issue is not one of funding, but of inflationary pressure. As long as you have sufficient resources to actually meet the demand, you won't get inflationary pressure (in the case of healthcare, this means doctors, hospitals, equipment, etc.) But at the federal level the government never needs to "acquire" or "earn" or "find" or "borrow" money from someone or somewhere else before it can spend. It is the origin point for money and operationally it must spend first to bring the money unit into existence. Otherwise there is no money on which to tax (there could and should be real resources! but real resources are not money/currency).
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>>539709981
>price controls
>below market
lmaoooooooooo
SCALPER'S PARADISE
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>>539709981
>will be 30% cheaper
yeah because taxpayers are subsidizing it, which will drive other stores out of the area.
produce is already generally a loss leader, aside from specific overpriced specialist 'organic' brands
meat and fish are also usually extremely low margin just because of spoilage
grocery stores almost always make ~90% of their profits on preservative laden goyslop, which is also what these people want to buy.

we'll see stories 5 years from now about massive corruption in the city stores, piles of food purchased with no demand identified spoiling in warehouses, wages being paid for no services delivered, etc. it's all so tiresome.
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the DSA's policies are all socialist verbiage while having the most anti-socialist immigration policy. The whole thing reads "america is an economic zone". With the added welfare benefits to mine middle class value for GDP. It has to be an immigrant power move.
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>>539711056
the distinction between inflation, taxes and borrowing is just talmudic tricknowledgy.
all government spending is a tax.
only question is who pays it and when does it come due.
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The pure lack economic intelligence speaks volumes about the zoomers here.
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>>539709981
Hey, they promised the same thing during communism in Venezuela and if you didn't lower your prices and lose money, they'd just take your store
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>>539711127
Hoisted on your own petard. Immigrants are here because of extreme right wing economics. You get what you fucking deserve.
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>>539710285
nobody says that
not even the retarded wasps who pay property tax in NY
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>>539711253
Is that why that ultra right Joe let so many in?
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>>539710874
very funny line of thinking
>government enters market
>immunity to the operating penalties it applies to private actors
>drives them all out of business
>government now holds monopoly on market, but has eliminated its tax base
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>>539709981
>once a month
>for the whole month
...so all the time?
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>>539710874
>Will the reality be different?
Yes.
>To me the only actual issue is supply
That's it. The supply will run out. Carter tried this with the fuel crisis in the 70s. It didn't work, and this won't either.

Supply Side economics does work, though. If Mamdani wants to bring the cost of groceries down he should apply measures that would increase the supply of them rather than artificially restricting the prices on products which will have the same limited supply as before. It won't work.
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>>539709981
Why 30% cheaper? It should be 80% cheaper for marginalized communities, at most.
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>>539711127
look at who dominates DSA leadership, all children of recent immigrants meanwhile their voters are all whites.
note that Bernie was anti-immigration and was the only serious candidate in the last 20 years who did not believe that the USA is an economic zone, and correctly identified that historically free migration was a a prerogative of the business community and was detrimental to american social cohesion. (and actual racial justice, since immigrants continually undercut the people who are lowest on the social/economic totem pole)
the business community managed to capture and align itself with the progressive community to prioritize this as the conservatives moved away from this idea.
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>>539710213
Nigger our money (and now resources like water) are all being funneled to Israel. Our tax money SHOULD be used for americans
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>>539709981
Gonna have to sacrifice something to make dumbass Americans see communism really doesn't work like they say it will. Ney York is a good option. Let it coil into itself and implode. Who cares.
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>>539710285
Taxes are high because of unnecessary government spending.

>The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) highlighted a $10 million USAID contract funding voluntary medical male circumcision programs in Mozambique, which led to broader public confusion and miscommunications regarding foreign aid spending on contraceptives

>The Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) highlighted U.S. taxpayer funds allocated to Zambia, specifically targeting a $250,000 grant for vegan local climate action innovation and millions tied to health and medical contracts. These items were part of broader federal foreign aid reviews and subsequent rescission packages aimed at cutting overseas spending.

If we didn't spend money on useless things like this our taxes would be much lower.
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>>539711290
those were liberal social policies so they were great
the right wing economics means it's all the republicans fault for everything that went wrong
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>>539711208
This is sort of nonsensical. If the government did not issue a tax, there would be no reason to use the money -- as it is otherwise not valuable. It's just paper.

So, then libertarians and jews try to fill the gap with gold or silver -- but of course the entire reason why these have been abandoned over and over by different countries that have nothing in common with one another and run radically different economic systems, is because there isn't enough of these metals to drive meaningful economic activity (which of course higher level libertarians do understand and that is the whole point, they want to choke off people they view as "lesser"). It also doesn't make sense to tie all kinds of economic activity that don't involve those commodities at all to their existence or sufficient quantity. If I need to build a road, I need heavy equipment, manpower, and asphalt. I don't need any gold to actually physically do this, outside of maybe some trace amounts that might be in any computerized systems in the machinery.

So taxes drive the money.
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Hell yeah! Let's under cut the competition with tax money and make the people rely on the government!
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>>539709981
>niggers will be free to steal anything they want
>taxpayers have to pay
>i-it'll be cheaper, says the brown commie
this place is so low iq.
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>>539711054
Imagine thinking a bunch of 90IQ genetic dead end commies could competently administer anything when they can't even get a job.
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>>539711290
Yes. Joe Biden is, in fact, an extreme neoliberal. The last upright union type White guy the Democratic party ran was Dukakis. When he got crushed, they went all in neoliberal Clinton (that moron actually tried to balance the budget while running a trade deficit lmao peak rightoid).
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>>539711054
kek, a little too obvious but pretty funny nevertheless.
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>>539711253
Are you retarded? I don't want these policies; I am pointing out the DSA specifically wants this. The inability of the left to engage immigration on a nonidentity based view means we can't make any fucking headway. This jackass and cortez are wreckers, which I suspect you are as well.
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>>539710213
>the money comes from somewhere

lol we print money every day and have fiat currency. Scarcity is a fucking meme
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>>539711445
grocery stores are unnecessary spending for the government
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>>539711253
You liberals who shill here are so silly
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>>539711255
>nobody says that
>Because that would spoil the surprise.
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>>539711349
I don't disagree. I do wonder if in these particular markets, which are very mature and enjoy significant federal subsidies, if supply is an actual issue.

Like I have gone to the regular grocery store like everyone else here. Sometimes they are out of a particular thing, but they are almost never out of a particular category. You know?
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>>539710285
>>539710213
>>539710104
>>539709981
So all these people come to the west who hate white men, how are they not aware that they're fully dependent on us? Their lives are paid by for us, their fake jobs are paid by for us, and yet their main goal is wanting us gone. Do you understand how much jealousy it takes for someone to want the person who pays for their entire life gone? How jealous can all these people hate white men be? It must be intense. They must be angry every single time they have to see women of their race laughing at something funny a white man said, these are fucking losers. These people who hate white men, they are the most worthless jealous losers on the planet.
They dont deserve our sympathy, you can't trust people who are this jealous, avoid these parasites at all costs.
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>>539711445
this is going to be hard to understand if you're a migger but the spending issue is not discretionary spending. Even if you deleted 100% of it, the budget would still not be balanced even at current tax levels.
Boomer welfare is the actual problem.
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>>539711127
>>539711253
you retarded commie niggers and your bs lies. immigrants are in the west because leftists love replacing whites and getting rid of their political and cultural independence. you absolutely rely on immigrants voting for the left. the dem party wouldn't even be competitive nationally without all your brown voters. truly, kill yourselves, you worthless, soulless shitstains.
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>>539711721
So true sister you tell those chuds
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>>539709981
>Deliberately undercutting the market with subsidies.
I'm fine with a government option, but this is how it gobbles up the competition. Have they not seen how this works with African "Aid?"
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>>539711445
$10m is nothing -- without actually making a value judgement on this particular bit of spending. I'm not getting into that.

The problem here is with the source -- DOGE = Musk. Elon Musk has gone on television, has to conferences, campaign stumps, etc. genuinely putting forward the idea that the government can go bankrupt. He has no idea what he's talking about. He clearly believes in things like loanable funds and crowding out. And if he doesn't believe them, it means he's an outright liar.

In reality, government spending is not anywhere near high enough. And taxes are also too high.
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>>539711724
Capitalism caused white replacement. Capitalism cannot survive without mass immigration. It's a common theme that people who use the term "commie" don't actually know anything.
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>>539710213
>It's just like free healthcare. It's not free
It's free in the rest of the developed world because they aren't forced to finance the existence of Israel
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>>539711875
Hahahahaha what is wrong with you leftist freaks? Is your discord all this fucking stupid?
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>>539711724
>you absolutely rely on immigrants voting for the left. the dem party wouldn't even be competitive nationally without all your brown voters
white majority states all lean heavily towards democrats
not that it matters, stop tying your racial identity to muttmerican politics
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>>539711718
nons are not known for their mastery of forward thinking
"ooga booga kill whitey take his sheeeeit" has been the modus operandi for centuries
it ends in haiti and south africa
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>>539709981
I can’t see any way of this backfiring!
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>>539711554
bolshevik, you've supported open borders and a "borderless world" since the days of stalin. every leftist everywhere in the west, over more than a century, has supported replacement migration and flooding the west with africans. it's always been fundamental to leftist politics. who do you think you're kidding, you worthless trash?

>biden
>30+ mill brown invaders let in
>massive federal censorship apparatus silencing millions of non-leftists
>turned the fbi, doj, other federal agencies into his secret police
>massive political persecution
>stalinism and anti-white demagoguery everywhere
>leftist terrorists were treated as heroes

>to the subhuman commie, this is not leftist
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>>539710656
>>Yes, people will pay less on average with this solution
>>Yes, it's more than any prior administration has done to address the issue of rising costs
>>But it isn't an absolutely perfect plan that will freeze prices FOREVER so it actually SUCKS ASS

This is what (((you))) sound like
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>>539711892
>free
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>>539711724
If you are a running a parasitic and extractive capitalist and zionist occupation of a civilization, the last people you are going to allow to dominate it are the ethnic foundation population who has it somewhere in their head that there is a certain way the country should be run and certain benefits and expectations they should get. It's wild you can't follow this through to the logical conclusion.

There is a reason capitalists moved all of the industrial capacity out of the country, even if that meant it was in "communist China". If it's not physically in the country, it can't be nationalized. And then you go down the line where this part or this process is only in this country and this other process is in that country, and you can't complete the chain without going through multiple countries so no one can stand independently.
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>>539710104
And what will your cope be when it goes through and works as described?
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>>539712034
unfathomable retardation
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>>539712074
>(((You)))
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>>539709981
>We need affordable groceries we're starving to death.
>Best I can do is 30% off the already inflated price tag.
Fucking really?
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>>539709981
a jew, 2 chinks and a nigger tell you how great communism with chinese characteristics really is
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>>539712102
>And what will your cope be
Hurting the profits of big chain grocery stores is antisemitic
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>>539711922
subhuman nigger commie, that doesn't contradict what i said. if only whites voted in america, the dem party would lose by 20+ points nationally. this has been true for a long time. assuming that you're not brown, which is a big assumption, you're an anti-white traitor.

>>539711875
that doesn't begin to make sense. historically, there have been lots of capitalist countries which didn't practice mass imporations of thirdworlders. hell, currently, in asia, there are several of them. capitalism doesn't need or rely on mass immigration. leftist parties do. You do, you miserable shitstain, which is why you always open borders.
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>>539712102
>>539712138
>>539712034
Do you open borders liberal maggots really think if you virtue signal about Israel a little bit people will fall for your insane shit? What is wrong with you people?
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>>539711875
While true, there are more actors in the pot. The left will not engage on immigration. The idea of national sovereignty as a necessary basis for worker coalition is impossible for them to even think about. Or the idea that immigrants can be class antagonistic while being completely rational in their decisions. The western left has much to answer for in its inability to counter capital.
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>>539709981
NOOOO PRICES MUST BE HIGH JUST BECAUSE THEY MUST OK???
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>>539710213
Yeah it does come from somewhere. Mamdani argues it should come from rich people. This is a good thing.
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>>539712205
He's been office less than a year and already run the Kushners out of the city
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>>539709981
Whats stopping scalpers from going in and buying all the food and reselling it?
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>>539710862
We force jeff bezos to pay taxes on his third and fourth homes you boomer faggot. Please feel free to claim citizenship in israel if you have such a problem with wealthy people paying taxes you miserable kike.
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>>539712015
>bolshevik, you've supported open borders and a "borderless world" since the days of stalin.
If this was true, you would have expected those countries east of the Berlin Wall to look very different ethnically than they actually do.
>no I mean I only support it in Western countries to weaken them!
Okay.. but all States have a deep state that actually runs things. And everything else is actually a front. So you would have to argue that this deep state is what was captured by the communists and then proceeded to only do White replacement, but not any meaningful economic reforms (which have only gotten more radically neoliberal since the 1960s).

Like what you're saying doesn't make any logical sense based on what is actually in front of us. More diverse Western societies has resulted in unprecedented privitization.
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>>539711624
Didn't people like you say that Trump needs to win so the grocery prices can go down because Biden was causing the grocery prices to go up?

And now when somebody like Mumdani does the same thing that's bad?

If you lived in NYC you would be happy for this.
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>>539712280
I'll take that as a yes LMFAO
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>>539712100
>parasitic and extractive capitalist
brown commie. whites in america are richer than anywhere else on the planet. they get to keep much more of what they earn. fundamentally, capitalism just means a high degree of freedom for the citizenry to enter into contracts and trade without government involvement. how this is parastitic in any way i don't understand.
>zionist
You're a bolshevik jew supremacist, you worthless brown shitstain. you want to give jews total power in america.
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>>539711986
Kek. You just know Mamdanis team looked at what happened to the public grocery stores in LA and are desperately trying to come up with an explanation for why its Trumps fault when it happens again.
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>>539710104
These stores always end up getting shut down lol. Commies will never learn and are retarded, they why they target low IQ browns
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>>539710874
How will you pay employees and also pay for more groceries to restock the store? What about the electric bill for lights and refrigerators? Like you can't just keep printing money to run a store that operates in the red
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>>539711226
>I saw it on Fox News and PraegerU so it must be the truth.
Shut up.
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>>539712369
Meanwhile Trump sold is daughter to them lol
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>>539711297
This is pure cope. Other countries have government run grocery stores and they still have private grocery stores.
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>>539711253
Both major American political parties hover around center-left.
They make a big show of being diametrically opposed, but beneath the surface they're functionally identical and, more importantly, indentured to the same interests.

Both sanctioned roads lead to the same destination, if you want to go somewhere else you need to beat your own trail.
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>>539712355
>these wonderful bolsheviks protected their white populations
So, now, you retarded nigger trash, you're defending the objectively most anti-white political movement of all time, pretending that they were pro-white, no less. the bolsheviks killed endless tens of millions of white slavs, merely because of their race and religion, and the rest of whites in their lands were treated as slaves. they did nothing for the benefit of whites.
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>>539712480
>the anti white open borders liberal freaks who shill for kamala are shilling for the dsa now
Hahahahahahahahaha oh wow so true sister you tell those chuds!
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>>539712443
They get shut down only when private run grocery stores start lobbying politicians for their closure actually
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>>539712341
The strong moral compass that all democratic socialists possess
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>all the brown commies itt pretending to be pro-white and that bolshevism is le hecking aryan and wholesome
i truly wish you'd all jump from tall buildings and make the world a better place.
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>>539711445
>Making me pay more taxes on my slumlord units is literal holodomor.
Nobody cares about your zionist boomer kvetch.
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>>539712544
Who are you quoting?
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>>539712102
Thats like asking what I'll do if the ocean turns into cheese.
Its impossible so I don't waste time thinking about it
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>>539710104
>In my imagined future I’m right and he is wrong

Lol
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>>539712614
Do you know any conservative politicians who managed to force the kikes out of their city?
https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-903580
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>>539712102
>And what will your cope be when it goes through and works as described?
It won't. And btw, Charlie Kirk turned against Israel (its why they killed him).
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>>539711718
The parasite does not muse on higher matters.
It mindlessly follows its biological imperative to consume and replicate.
And that is all.
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>>539712512
>Other countries have governement run grocery stores
yeah like Vietnam, Sri Lanka and Mexico
that Mamfaggy is doing is just copying the SuperISSSTE model of Mexico let's be honest he didn invent anything
they're all third world countries and it should tell you enough about the direction the US is taking
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>>539712614
They don't understand how fundamentally unserious they are to everyone not in their discord.
>>539712644
You freaks. No one cares what you think about fucking grocery stores because you support mass illegal replacement migration and depopulation psyops like transgender shit.
Why would I care what you think about anything you dumb commie? You freaks came to shill the 2024 election and stayed to seethe about it. You're here forever so you'll get redpilled eventually!
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>>539712205
>”Government using money on its own people instead of browns half a plant away is… LE BAD OKAYYY!??”
Behead all miggers
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>>539712468
NYC can't print money at all because it is a lower order government that does not have the power to issue money. Theoretically it could experiment with doing this (and there have been other experiments with this), but it would likely have limited scope (only good within NYC, which might be a problem if significant real resources located in NYC are coming from outside of NYC -- which they are).

I don't think the employee pay will be much of an issue, or the lights or any of that. The city government already has light bills for other buildings it operates. All the private stores have those same operating costs, but my point was that these city government stores presumably won't have to pay rent or shareholders, so that alone might cover the 30%. Maybe it won't, I haven't looked at the books.
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niggers will still loot and steal and this will safely hide the money laundering scheme

money laundering - the actual point of these poverty cuck stores
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>>539712749
>what that Mamfaggy is doing is just copying the SuperISSSTE model of Mexico let's be honest he didn invent anything
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>glorious pro-white bolshevism
>those jews really looked after whites!
you shills have jewish souls.
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>>539709981
They could be 50% cheaper and MIGA nigger "experts" will just lie and claim they are 6000000% more expensive and Israel needs mo money for their programs.
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>>539712755
Go away troon
>>539712720
You liberals started caring about Israel 2 years ago ffs no one cares about your fake edgy larping and virtue signaling
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>>539712202
>Hurting the profits of big chain grocery stores is antisemitic
The government is controlled by jews. You're just cheering the destruction one of the final vestiges of "Goyim" private ownership.
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>>539711445
>Amerimutts playing victims
>implying this money isnt being laundered as bribes, subversion and funding for American overseas terrorism
>circumcition
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>>539712817
Too late, congress just gave them infinity money thru the military
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>>539710997
>>539711419
>>539711603
>>539711892
>>539712279
Look at these little lefty nu/pol/ faggot kikes. Yes I totally support infinite gibs for 400 lb shaniquas and alejandras enacted by a literal fucking white-hating muslim. Kill yourselves niggers. You will never make an impact here. You stick out hard you stupid fucks
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>>539712819
But can you name any Republicans who managed to run Jews out of their city
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>>539712512
no, nigger, it's a completely logical series of events
offer fixed lower prices?
they're either going to have to artificially restrict customers AND somehow prevent resale or be constantly out of stock
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>government sells milk 30% cheaper
>private stores that sell milk cannot compete and close/go sell somewhere else
>government becomes the only provider of milk in the area
>government is selling at a loss (the loss margin is entirely covered by your taxes)
>the more the goverment sells, the bigger the loss, the more your taxes go to cover this loss
>shekelstein see an arbitrage opportunity and starts buying up the 30% off milk to sell somewhere else for the standard price
>more shekelsteins want in so demand increases
>milk sellers already got BTFO'd so government has to step the offer up for even higher losses or higher demand will cause prices to increase so people will both lose tax money and also not save shit
>more offer = more tax money down the drain
>not enough offer = empty shelves
Mmmmm I wonder who tried that before and how it went
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>>539712667
>>In my imagined future I’m right and he is wrong
>
>Lol
Just flip that around and apply it to him and its exactly the same.

But historical precedent is on my side. Price controls have never worked. Socialism has never worked. But even after this (inevitably) fails you'll memoryhole it and try for it again anyway because leftists are retarded and do not learn from history.
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>>539712827
Lol all the major groceries stores chains are already controlled by Jew private equity companies. So swing and a miss
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>>539710874
Kicking up rent has been a thing before shareholders were, faggot. Anyone can just wait it out and Mamdani pisslamist would be outed for lying yet again. You will fall for it again.
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>>539712926
>Israel deserves at least 6 infinity moneys from healthcare to education to public transport you anti-semite
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>>539712560
Kek
Lol even
>Act as if markets don't exist
>Literally subsidize costs and sell at a loss
>Run out of other people's money
>Blame corruption

Grocery stores operate at wildly slim margins (~2%). Show any information that justifies a 30% price reduction as viable while remaining self sustainable. If the answer is it needs a fire hose of external dollars to exist, that only lasts while the water flows.
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>>539713058
Deserves for what reason?
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>>539712755
>Government using money on its own people
its own people being jews (either in Israel and/or here). But Goyim like you will own nothing and be completely dependent on the state (which jews control).
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>>539711088
We already saw this in communist soviet. It was hilarious, prize were forcibly fixed and guess what, frequent supply issues were rampant. It's easier to fail this time since anyone from another state can just clean the shelves and sell it back outside NY for a higher price. If scalpers go out of their way for tickets and consoles for profits, this one would be easier.
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>>539713113
Cool it with the antisemitic remarks
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>>539713030
>Lol all the major groceries stores chains are already controlled by Jew private equity companies. So swing and a miss
Now look up who controls the federal reserve.
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>>539713008
you greatly underestimate New York.
it's going to end up like a royal rumble until there's nothing left
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>>539710862
We'll subsidize it with the profits from soap and lampshades.
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>>539710213
government can't make things better. But they can fund things. With our money. That they take from us. Radical concept, I know.
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>>539713321
The federal government does not need money from you. Take a bill out of your pocket -- it's not your picture or signature on it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mODnz8DnhCQ
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>>539712280
This is a good thing
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>>539709981
What's the catch?
Limited supplies? Only one store? Patrons have to meet certain eligibility?
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>>539713420
Yes
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>>539712102
Not something we're going to have to consider since it won't work. Sure, the prices may be stable, but the shelves will be empty. But don't worry, we know you'll just move the goal post when this inevitably fails the way every socialist program inevitably fails.
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>>539709981
They better hurry up and get in line before the food runs out
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>>539713430
You don't have to pay Jeff Bezos or Ahold Delhaize a trillion in profit, nor do you have to pay the speculators on their stocks a trillion in profit, nor do you have to pay the marketing and bullshit middlemen, and the savings get passed direct to you.

Simple as.
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>>539709981
This is so dumb. If the stores sell at a loss, it will cost the taxpayers money for every person that shops there. And if its cheaper than other stores, the other stores will go out of business, destroying peoples livelihoods and jobs. The end result is a taxpayer funded store with no alternatives, and nobody has any jobs to pay taxes to fund it or to buy stuff from it.
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>>539709981
Grocery stores in places like New York and Seattle are getting shoplifted to death. They're getting dropped by their insurance companies.

The socialist solution to the shoplifting epidemic is government run grocery stores.

But what's to stop them from getting shoplifted? Will these stores be "everything behind the counter", like grocery stores were a hundred years ago?
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>>539713651
You really don't understand how business and stocks work, do you?
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>>539712102
probably that they're faking the success; all the customers are fake and the products are cardboard. Chuddies live in the cave of cope and there is always a deeper level of delusion to sink too. Just like how they decided all of the ticket sales for the odyssey were fake rather than admit they are fucking mental retards.
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>>539710104
>>Mamdani run stores will be 30% cheaper
>This is the claim. The reality will be very different.
if they stay open for even a year it will be a miracle.
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>>539709981
>subscribe to get food
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>>539712354
Name a single leftoid politician that has come even remotely close to taxing muh billionaires, you faggot ass troon
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>>539713651
Is that why mom and pop stores are so inexpensive, they don't have shareholders?
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>>539709981
doesnt sound legal. lawsuits will probably shut it down. gummint aint allowed to compete with business unfairly
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the only reason to object to this is being Jewish
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>>539709981
Didn't Chicago and a few other cities try this and they closed shops within a year due to theft and supply issues?
I say NYC keeps with it and tries to make these stores viable as long as possible.
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>>539711419
It should never be used for gibs. Welfare does nothing but create a dependent population that is incentivized to grow the state as they're reliant on it to survive. SO many of our problems would go away over time if we'd just abolish the welfare state.
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>>539711054
Imagine thinking a gaggle of brown retards can do anything efficiently
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>>539709981
Is there anything more fucked in life than having kids? Its amazing people have not realized this. Proof majority of people are absolutely retarded.
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>>539709981
Since when is cheese essential?
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>>539710370
This. They'll become hotbed for theft and will be shut down as an abject failure within the next 2 years.
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>>539712937
All the liberal jews who fled red states
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>>539709981
SNAP was already doing this, subsidizing food for the needy, effectively a 30% discount, no need for new stores and putting regular stores out of business.
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>>539714001
White people need subsidized groceries too, Simba.
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>>539709981
>produce, meet, cheese, bread
>essentials
Try frozen pizza, Doritos, crab legs and soda.
Learn your customer, idiot.
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>>539711892
I'm jealous that anon will get to kill you when things go
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>>539714032
But do you have any actual names....
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>>539709981
If Indians aren't white, then why are their languages Indo-European?
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>>539714099
I know Israel is a massive waste of resources. To bad people keep voting for Zionists capitalists
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>>539709981
Why 30%? Why not 50%? Why not free?
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>>539714079
M'amdani will make the autism platter 30% off
Cheap mac&cheese, dino nuggies, and frozen pizzas for everyone
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>>539709981
>will be
>going to
>will have
>in the future
>projected to
>forecasts predict
let us know how it turns out
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Documented examples
Baldwin, Florida (pop. ~1,500)
After the town’s only private grocery closed, the local government opened Baldwin Market in 2019 using town reserves and municipal employees. Initial turnout was strong and it restored basic access. It never consistently broke even (early losses around $60k–$170k+ per year). The store closed in March 2024 after about 4.5 years due to insufficient customer base and persistent shortfalls. The town returned to food-desert status.
Kansas City, Missouri – Sun Fresh Market
City spent roughly $17–29 million acquiring and redeveloping the site (opened ~2018). A nonprofit later operated it. It faced empty shelves, high crime/security costs, declining traffic (from ~14,000 weekly shoppers at peak to ~4,000), and large losses (including ~$1.3 million in one recent year). It closed in August 2025. The city is now trying to lease it to a new private operator.
Erie, Kansas
The city bought the local grocery around 2020–2021. It had one profitable month early on, then steady losses (e.g., ~$132k in 2022). The city leased operations to a private party due to financial strain; the store remains fragile and at risk of closing.
St. Paul, Kansas (pop. ~600)
One of the clearer relative successes. City involvement began around 2008 and the store has operated under municipal ownership/oversight for 15+ years. It employs locals, turns a modest profit (~3% in reports), and fills a genuine void in a tiny rural town with limited competition. Scale is tiny compared with a major city.
Atlanta – Azalea Fresh Market
Opened August 2025 as a public-private partnership (city provided funding, loans, grants, and site support; private operator Savi Provisions runs it). Early figures show 600–700 daily customers and solid produce sales share. Officials report positive initial demand in a downtown area that lacked options. It is designed with subsidies for the early years. Still too new for a multi-year verdict.
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>>539713859
Literally, yes
>Be Market Basket
>Local NE grocery chain
>Refuse to advertise outside of weekly mailer
>Refuse marketing middle men bullshit
>Have 20% lower prices than competition
>Pay and treat employees better
>CEO so beloved that people protested en masse when the board tried to fire him
Simple as. We live in an age of monopoly capitalism. Any time there is even a bit of real mid-size competition, it wins. But usually it get stomped out.
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I'm really tired of people who don't live in NYC, and never will live in NYC, having strong opinions about NYC politics.
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>>539709981
>I'm gonna run a store at 0% gross margin
erm okay
jeet logic desu
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>>539714549
Maybe its the fact the dumbass socialists of America want to take this everywhere
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>>539709981
When you don't want to admit to who is controlling prices because they fund your party.
https://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/naming-names-attorney-general-bonta-secures-public-access-evidence-amazon-price
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>>539714639
More like -28%.
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It doesn't take being a commie to realise that goods and labour are all that are necessary.
The goods and labour are there at the food cultivation, production, packaging and transport level. The supermarket is there to facilitate its storage and sale.
All these things physically exist and would not be under threat of veing wiped out of money wasn't a thing.
Conflating the system of capitalism kickstarting this process and keeping it running is ignoring that money still requires those same goods and services to exist for the money to serve as anything that sustains life and workers.
If we really want to live in parasitic jewish world where capital matters, let it be in the world of miscellaneous crap, apps and fashion and bullshit like that.
If the government can print money and keep things going when it suits them, they can use whatever magic tokens are needed to keep the actual real resources and labour that actually exist flowing so people can you know, eat.

I say this as a natsoc. Not a commie. Capitalism is an arbitrary cancer that ignores what actually exists and is possible because of a theoretical wolf (jew) at the door.
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>>539715197
how much does it suck to be poor like you?
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>>539709981
Let me guess.
>Memeflaggot
>Xitter screencap ragebait
>1pbtid
>Leaves thread
>170+ replies
Jews are right about every last one of you idiots.



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