This is the future of the US
>>539710196Price controls never work.
>>539710196> the future of the US
>>539710196>price artificially cheaper>all poors will buy everything and stock up>some will resell it at 10% below retail>commie stores will go empty in a few days.>eventually they will have to limit the number of items each person can purchase per week to ration the inventory>welcome to Cuba.
>>539710316Bargains certainly do
>>539710196and not a single English word shall be uttered inside of them.
>>539710349(((J-Street Oligarchs))) backed him for a reason. Goyim will own nothing.
>>539710196Cloward Piven strategy.
>>539710196I don't want there to be a government, let alone having those faggots run stores
>>539710196>tax funded grocery stores>30% cheaperJust ignore the fact that they'll be paying more in taxes to accommodate it
>>539710403>Bargaining is price controlUhhh retard department?
>>539710196>The real grocery stores go out of business because they can't compete with 30% state run discounts>State run grocery expands to entire city>The whole time the state has been allowing mass theft>It continues, with much of what gets stocked immediately bought or stolen>You find empty shelves all over>Most of the goods you want now have to be bought on the now thriving black market>Some popular goods have buy limits to try and address this, you have to wait in line.Bread lines, empty shelves, black markets. Same commie retard bullshit. Faggot retard.
basically jack's
Let them eat frosted cockroach.
>>539710385Cuba doesn’t have stop and shop down the street
>>539710385When the first pic of a jeet family waiting in checkout line with $2k worth of scammed products hits they're gonna ban phones from these stores
i'm from nyc and this city is just going to shit. you don't even truly understand it...
>>539710196He's trying to counter the Food Desert problem that plagues NYC. There are major sections of the city that are pretty much entirely reliant on crappy little bodegas and convenience stores for all their groceries, which is obviously not great for procuring actually fresh and healthy ingredients, let alone anything at a reasonable price.
>>539710196Will there be restrictions on the amount? Otherwise this will be funny.
>>539710485>Browns steak groceries>Solution: taxpayer funded brown theftThat's what we have now only it's an explicit policy in NYC. I wonder if they'll publish the effects like good socialists
Yup. The other side hitched their wagon to completely useless tech-tards. Eziest people to raype are the ones who think they deserve to win
>>539710588The faggot leftist retard caused the food deserts. They caused the food deserts by enabling mass theft and letting in massive amounts of foreign criminals intentionally. Commie faggot retards did it. They cause every crisis that they use as an excuse for more crisis-causing communism. Evil demented fuckstains. Nothing they do is good.
>>539710549Let me dun break it down, cracker, ebonics nuspeak style. Deys bout to axpurience what muh teach callz a "food desert".
>>539710549*anymore.
>>539710518Why would the state run grocery stores have theft but not private stores when laws are enforced by the same police force?
>>539710327>free healthcare isn't free>the money is already coming from somewhere in your pocketYeah, that's the whole point. We're all already paying enough money to make universal healthcare work. The problem is that money is feeding health insurance bureaucracy and subsidization, which actually costs us more than it would to just directly pay for everyone's healthcare.We'd literally pay less and get more under a properly-implemented universal plan. But obviously the government wants to discourage that because right now they're literally charging you from all sides of the equation (you pay for subsidization, you or your employer pay for your health insurance, and if you choose not to have any, you pay a fine) while providing effectively nothing to you. Good goy.
>>539710588There are no markets because nigs steal everything and make it too costly to be in that area
>>539710588>There are major sections of the city that are pretty much entirely reliant on crappy little bodegas and convenience stores for all their groceriesthese don't exist in nyc. the portorican supermarket they are spending like 70 million dollars to create is surrounded by like 3 real full -on supermarkets within a 10 minute walking radius
>>539710196If he really wants to piss off globojews, make insurance 30% cheaper
>>539710760You are just pointing out that Mamdani can use the city treasury to absorb theft loses while the real businesses can't.
>>539710196no bread for you? this guy is the bread commie.
>>539710196These will cause violent crime, bankruptcies and hatred among new yorkians.
>>539710722What are you supposed to do when your entire inner city population is 80 IQ, abandoned, and steal to survive? The socialist of course looks at that and goes "uh if we gave them more free stuff they would steal less". I might actually have to look up their strategy here to see if it's literally "shits fucked"
>>539710781And the communists support the nigs creating the food deserts by doing that, every step of the way. Communists are such evil demented lying scum.
>>539710316Retard, it’s a two way street. Prices are maxed out via collusion on the expensive side also. Same thing different word
>>539710316This isn't so much price control as subsidisation. He's killing private businesses and forcing everyone to be reliant on the state. This is economic terrorism.Also the place will be raided by nogs daily.
>>539710579someone shared a webm of a guy bleeding out on a NYC bus.with everyone awkwardly trying to scoot around him, and continue with their day.i think that glimpse was enough for me. spiderman did not save the day
>>539710196Doesn't matter. Blacks will still get a 100% discount. Same as it ever was.
>>539710865The communist faggot retard made it that way. Their policies crafted that outcome.
>>539710196Formerly worked for TERRORIST ORGANIZATION ISIS. KIKE INCOGNITO ISIS ' Israeli Secret intelligence service'
>>539710196niggers gonna rob the stores blindit will be hilariious, hopefully we get live streams
>>539710588Fats waddling around because govt feeds them while some vanilla sympathetic says oh poor things live in a food desert. They eat for free. And are fat.
>>539710760>why would the employers of cops have more patrols than the regular jackoff?
>>539710955>The communists made 80 IQ people congregate in the cities and be uselessDid they? Are you sure that wasn't the federal government?
>>539710934>guy bleeding out on a NYC bus.with everyone awkwardly trying to scoot around him, and continue with their daythis is very accurate for nyc. you could have people dying on the floor right next to you on the train and people will try to pretend like they don't see anything
>>539710316This is not price controls its a subsidy. Taxes pay for the difference.
>>539710891what communists are always doing is Lenin's "the worse the better". They are trying to make things bad enough that the masses clamor for their horrible "solutions"
>>539710781>There are no markets because nigs steal everything and make it too costly>>539710891>And the communists support the nigs creating the food deserts by doing that>>539710891>Communists are such evil demented lying scum.actually, the commies are doing us a favorkill the niggers
>>539710747It’s one store. They undercut the prices of retail but they also don’t carry everything retail stores do.Of course supply would be regulated because it’s a government run storefront. I’m not seeing the dominoes
>>539710196>literally stealing customers from small stores on the taxpayer's moneyWhat the fuck is this guy doing roflmaoOne or both things will happen:>pajeets swarm in like locusts, buy out everything to resell later at mucher higher prices in their seven elevens>pavement apes still manage to steal a solid amount of products even if prices are lower
>>539710926If private businesses can't compete then they deserve to die. That's Crapitlalism..
>>539711082>pajeets swarm in like locusts, buy out everything to resell later at mucher higher prices in their seven elevensHonestly, this. Had a customer at work earlier try and buy 11 Xboxs because they're going up in price soon. Naturally it was a jeet.
>>539710196so tax payers will fund the destruction of actual grocery stores, destroying jobs and taxable income further
>>539711106You are so fucking stupid.
>>539711068>try to describe communism>end up perfectly describing what is happening in the most capitalist country in the history of the worldnever not funny
>>539710196>haha oops I increased the prices by 42.8% before the 30% reductionyour response, goyim?
The shelves will be empty, just like other attempts at government-owned grocery stores, because niggers will steal everything.
By the way with how bad Mammi Dammi is, one must wonder why orange man has not yet commented on his communist swine behavior? That's how you know he's doing a really good job of driving leftist poorfag out of the state and into voting blocks where they'll become as irrelevant as they should have been from the start. By the end of all of this New York will be for Jews only and no one will give a fuck what happens to it after the fact. I mean it sort of already is like that which is why you're seeing so little fucks given about it now. They literally voted for it!
>>539711170If niggers steal everything from private stores then naturally inner city ghetto stores should be government owned, since nobody in their right mind would open a business there
>>539710196Why is government run grocery stores a bad thing? Many European countries does this. Even Poland does this. You should be happy for this. Didn't you say you wanted Trump to win so he can get the grocery prices down? That's what you got.
This is highly antisemitic.
bring it on. I don't even care. if you think this system is salvageable in any way you're dumber than mud.
>>539711170I always enjoy these stockholm syndrome responses. You cannot possibly conceive of any other way of doing things apart from the way Capitalist Jews have told you and you panic when somebody says that you can. It's a form of mental illness.
>>539711080The article literally says "5 stores".>They undercut the prices of retail but they also don’t carry everything retail stores do.They shouldn't exist in the first place, they're like a food bank that charges half off.>regulated because it’s a government run storefront. I’m not seeing the dominoesBecause you're fucking stupid and need another government run reminder I guess. I suggest you get back to putting "no gun zone" signs on schools.
>>539710196Import the third world become the third world
UNCLE SAM LUVS THE POOR HE ALWAYS WANTS MORE AND MORE https://youtu.be/tGJEN8b1YWs
>>539711156No you're fucking stupid. Fuck you. If businesses cannot compete with the state then they need to die and fuck off. There is no law that says the state can't open businesses.
>>539711393Common sense dictates that the state doesn't open businesses and subsidising it so that competing becomes impossible. You really are so fucking stupid. Let me guess you're like 15?
>>539711393wow what a great idea, if the state outcompetes all businesses why don’t they start doing it in other industries? oh wait…
>>539710196I have a feeling, that we'll get to see real gas chambers in action this time, globally, and it's gonna be glorious
>>539711393But that's exactly what has happened? Brown people scare off all the businesses and then feed themselves with Pringles
>>539711448What are you talking about? You're blathering because you realise that Capitalism is a scam and you're doing mental gymnastics to justify it.
>>539710196who pays the 30% though? plus are 5 stores really enough to cater to the entirety of NY cause surely every single person will be shopping there
>>539710196>Tax-funded grocery stores to run bodegas out of businessKEKKYPOW
>>539711161you know what you're right, I'm in favor of using the USSR's exact laws about unemployment, vagrancy and homosexuality. How about you?
>>539711472Yes they should do it in other industries. It's called Communism and it works hence why China is raping the west.
>>539711666>State monopolies are communism Hold the phone
>>539710385>>539710349>>539710316>>539710196So all these people come to the west who hate white men, how are they not aware that they're fully dependent on us? Their lives are paid by for us, their fake jobs are paid by for us, and yet their main goal is wanting us gone. Do you understand how much jealousy it takes for someone to want the person who pays for their entire life gone? How jealous can all these people hate white men be? It must be intense. They must be angry every single time they have to see women of their race laughing at something funny a white man said, these are fucking losers. These people who hate white men, they are the most worthless jealous losers on the planet.They dont deserve our sympathy, you can't trust people who are this jealous, avoid these parasites at all costs.
>>539710485and it'll pull business away from legitimate stores causing closures, leaving only empty bread lines at the government store that operates on kickbacks and graft.
>>539710196The discount will be 100% if you have enough melanin btw
So do the shitskins have to pay for it? Or is it for WIC/gibs etc? Both?
>>539710588>food desertsNo such thing, what exactly is stopping you from going further to an actual grocery store?
i fucking hate paying less for food.
>>539710196>Drive out any sane person>Only lunatics remain>Stay in power forever
>>539711961You still pay for the full price tho it's just that you pre paid the 30% price for all of them upfront.
>the state that scared off all the wealthy people and is now hurting for money>will now be running 5 grocery stores entirely on taxpayer money>where prices will be 30% lower than retailLol New York City is marching to the breadline
>>539710196Enjoy starving, you stupid fucking cunts.
>>539711949Hey, according to the left, niggers are so fucking stupid they can't get photo IID for voting purposes, and now you're axing for a nigger to nigwalk a few extra blocks and not fuck things up or steal?
>>539712103>>539712145Unless the state cuts them off from accessing their part of the budget they won't or I know this wrong?
>>539712097no
>>539712247The goat fucking muslim mayor already took 6B USD from the state government to balance the books. He's essentially holding the governor hostage for all the votes in NYC. It'll work until NY State loses all their fucking taxes because anyone with the money to leave will do so and have already done so. The governor of NY state already made public statements begging for the rich to prop up socialist programs as well as to please not leave the state stripping her of their taxes.I hate communists and muslims so much it's fucking unreal.
>>539713001>The governor of NY state already made public statements begging for the rich to prop up socialist programs as well as to please not leave the state stripping her of their taxes.Maybe she shouldn't have spent all that taxpayer money on Highmark Stadium, which was essentially just her throwing hundreds of millions of dollars at a billionaire couple to price people out of going to Bills games.
>>539712247They have already blown through their part of the state budget, and have eaten through their municipal taxes. The city is going broke in record time. The fact they feel compelled to do this sends the message that not only is the city broke, but so are the citizens in it. Guaranteed they beg for federal aid next despite it being blatantly unconstitutional
>>539711393You'll have nothing to buy in no time
>>539710196>cheaper foodOh no, the horror!!
>>539711557It’s genuinely terrible the welfare state has progressed to the point that drooling retards like yourself can make it to adulthood.
>>539710196saving this post for like 2 months from now when NYC collapses
>>539710196Is it stocked by slav-i mean immigrant labor?
>>539711161Inversion of reality. Fuck off and die lying communist faggot.
This is so stupid it hurts. He is going to lower prices below profitability which will kill all the grocery stores near it. Then the city is going to have budget issues and will probably close the store which will create a food dessert where there wasn't one before. That or they'll pull a walmart and have to jack up prices just to survive.
>>539711331Good people don't want to have to deal with food shortages, empty shelves, line ups for basic goods, black markets and higher taxes just because of evil retard commie scumbags and their twisted retard ideas. Fuck off.
They're copying the SuperISSSTE model of Mexcio. If it's like Mexico, only people with "benefit" cards will be able to shop there. Meaning niggers, immigrants, single mothers, and old people.
>>539713700"Profitability" has failed to provide affordable food for lower income people. The city stores will still be profitable at 30% markup. This is the alternative that is their own making.
>>539713001This incentivizes the state to split, so that NYC becomes a quarantined retard zone of commie degenerates and alien foreign criminals.
>>539710196I live here and a red bell pepper costs $3.50. Fuck grocery stores.>>539713700Grocery stores are killing themselves because of their overpriced food. Produce is literally rotting on the shelf because people can't afford to buy it.
>>539713831>City will be profitable No they won't. Grocery store margins aren't that high. If you undercut retail by 30% your selling the food at a loss. A loss that will be subsidized by the tax payer. New York already has budget problems throw in free busing and they'll be in a deficit. Eventually they won't be able to maintain it and when that happens they'll either raise prices or close the store. Its a dumb move.
>>539713831>this engine is communist i guess it must not work.
>>539714012Fake. You are lying scum. Your ideas get immediately blown out of the water by reality and reason. Then you cope with made up bullshit. Lying bitch.
>>539714012>Rotting >Over priced They have to account for spoilage and theft in their pricing. If theft wasn't such a big issue in new York the prices wouldn't be so high. The state run store is gonna have the same problems and run at a loss. Which will eventually force the city to close it.
>>539714087I am reality. I live here. I can't afford a fucking bell pepper. This is why I voted for Mamdani. You are a pajeet who lashes out and gnashes his teeth when faced with reality.
>>539714012find but how many peoples do you think 5 stores can serve in New York realistically? it's ludicrousthey're not going to open it to everyone anyway it's not how they work anywhere else Mamdani is a liar like him "freezing rents," which he never actually did but you only find the truth in the small details those "groceries" are just a way to subsidize single-family homes (fat niggers with 5 kids) and old people what he didn explain was how those groceries weren't going to be available to everyone
>>539710772> it's so unfair that I have to pay a hundered or so bucks a month to recieve tens of thousands of dollars in medical treatment when needed> stupid insurance companies> why can't every person in America chip in and pay for my health care > I hate America so damn much> it's so unfair
>>539714066Then the real grocery businesses shut down more and more. Each real grocery business that shuts down is tax revenue lost. Each city-run grocery that opens is a money pit for city treasury. A real human being with a brain and a dick longer than 1 inch immediately knows that it is not sustainable.
When will Tucker visit one of the stores?
>>539714201The profit margins for grocery are not high. You are paying extra to cover up the mass theft that you commie faggot retards enable intentionally.
>>539710196This is gonna be great when private shops have to buy in bulk from government shops to compete.
Are they prepared to staff the stores with chuds that will tell Ranjeet that he can't buy the entire stock of mechandise to resell at his Poodega? 30% is such a ridiculous discount, most wholesale grocery is only a few percent cheaper.
>>539714231Tucker isn't really MAGA anymore.So, if you're thinking he's going to visit one of the stores to shit on it, I don't think he's going to.
>>539714231He never will, because America doesn't have real bread. People laugh at his reaction to Russian bread, but it's true. American bread is goyslop supreme.
>>539714145>They have to account for spoilage and theft in their pricingThey don't. All the grocery stores near me are run by mexicans and greek jews. Produce is garbage here. The private grocery stores only take it off the shelves when it starts to rot. >>5397142105 stores is a start. Ideally, it's just the beginning. But it's more than any other mayor or governor has done for us.>>539714352>buying to resellNobody buys here to resell to another store. They just steal it.
This is his weakest policy. But, at least Zohran has a 'let's give it a try' approach.You guys are saying this shouldn't be tried at all.
>>539710196They are just going to get robbed by niggers
>>539713818No they're not copying anything.They're just pulling a commie that's all.Where do you see that anyone has to be a member or carry a card?
>>539714383I was really asserting that he would go to see the fine collection of bread on offer
>>539710196lol, running at a loss sure is a good way to go broke.Grocery (not retarded bodega/convenience stores) typically operate on a 50% markup. so, if you pay $2, you sell it for $3. You make shitty margins but work on volume to exist.this “30% below retail” is only sustainable because it’s taxpayer-funded. So, now they’re’ gonna sell that $3 item for literally 10 cents over cost. This won’t pay the employees. This won’t pay for operational costs, utilities, supplies, etc. Profit is necessary to do those things effectively, Hell, it won’t pay for anything.So, the NYC taxpayer is basically paying higher taxes to subsidize his own “discounted food”, lol, e abuse such a store cannot survive on its sales and needs funding outside to sustain itself.Not to mention, expect your favorite local groceries to now close down as well once they can’t compete. They can’t drop prices or they’ll be underwater. So government is effectively killing the small retailer because, well, food cheaper.As a guy who spent 25 years in the biz, I can tell you this will be a disaster in about 2-4 years once the reality settles in.Smarter option would have been to have grocery stores with reduced prices for broke faggotry only who were already on the dole, so as to not fuck so much else up.
>>539714526Ah, yeah. That Russian thing.There was reason for that, the whole culture war shit that Russia won or something. This was also while Biden was president.He also had a Fox budget.I don't think there's much of a reason for him to do that.
>>539714409>They don't This shows that the average socialist doesn't understand business. THEY DO, as a business if you spend money on a product you are in the red for that product. You have to sell that product to get back into the black. If some of the products get stolen or they spoil and you have to throw them out that has to be accounted for in your price so you don't run a deficit. If you don't account for it and don't price your goods with it in mind then eventually you'll run out of money and go bankrupt.
>>539711393subsidising a "business" with taxes is not capitalism you retarded bong
>>539714404tbf I agree regarding what can be sold, how it can last over a week and has that nasty artificial taste. All the cheaper bread is like that here as well. But isn't that the garbage that would be on offer at the "30%" discount?
>>539714409I mean some parts of New York are already food deserts it can't get worse, really. Sad those grocery stores aren going to be available to everyone.>>539714502Of course he is copying Mexico. If you watch the OP video he says >not for our seniors living on fixed incomes, nor for the parents who rely on a regular supply of apple slices to keep toddler tantrums at bay he meant there would be some kind of access control and they don't have a choice really because they can't put half the NYPD in front of it every weeks when there's a delivery right? Mamdani is a liarHe did the exact same with the rents freezing He froze the rent of 2 million rent-stabilized (already heavily subsidized) apartments. On 4 million residential units.
>>539710196They'll all be dirty, ghetto shitholes filled with turdworlders.
>>539710385This is exactly what will happen
>>539710196Niggers will still steal from them.
>>539711106>business doing fine >mayor brownskin undercuts you while simultaneously taxing you more to cover the difference of that undercutting >is this capitalism?I will cum so hard when a Russian sub goes rogue and nukes every city in England.
>>539710196No it is the start of escape from nyc, the worlds biggest open air prison.
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>>539710196>Open cheap government backed grocery store>Every grocery store nearby is closing down>Less tax revenue>More tax dollar spending
>>539710196That would kill the grocery stores in operation having to try to compete with tax-subsidized business.
>>539711242>If niggers steal everything from private stores then naturally inner city ghetto stores should be government ownedniggers will steal everything from the government stores tooand you pay the tax rise
>>539710196>>539710316>>539710327>>539710349>>539710385>state funded supermarkets don't wor-
>>539715064>>Every grocery store nearby is closing downthere arent any, they left years agoand still the niggers survive
>>539715145The grocery stores are going to be placed in food deserts.
>>539710316Ahemhttps://oag.ca.gov/news/press-releases/naming-names-attorney-general-bonta-secures-public-access-evidence-amazon-price
How come these alt leftists go on about ubi and other innovative stuff so much but when in power they choose the most statist old solutions
>>539710196It is the future we deserve
>>539710196>the government owns the grocery storesthis is actual Communism. And just like everything else with Communism, it sounds nice but doesn't actually work out.>but it's only 5 storesfor now. Then people will like the cheap prices and demand it city-wide and then the government has a monopoly on grocery stores in NYC, and it ends in disaster.
>>539715234This is the most statist policy he's made. His other policies are more business friendly. Like his curtailing zoning laws for small businesses.
>>539714201>I can't afford a fucking bell pepper. This is why I voted for Mamdani.To...starve you faster?Anon communism=starvation, every single time. You could've just shoplifted the pepper dumbass, that's what the self checkouts are for.
>>539710196.NYC is gonna die.
>>539715220The only thing that should be placed in food deserts is incendiary devices
>>539710196Are those the five that closed down in Chicago?
>>539715436In yo mama's cooch.
>>539715267It's more like market socialism, no total destruction of the price signaling, just distortion. But Americans seem to be okay with price distortion via mass tariffs, so I kind of expected this
>Clippy, detonate this man's balls
>>539710316Every callorie of food and every drop of water is price controlled by subsidies.
>>539714703>account for spoilage>still can't afford it>it spoilsWhat does that indicate? >>539714817>communism=starvationI'm starving under capitalism, man.>vote for wop jew cocksucker>shit gets worse>vote for black cop jew cocksucker >ends up sucking turkish cock instead>at the end of his term goes back to israel to proclaim "i was serving you" to a crowd of jews>shit still gets worse Something new has to happen.
>>539713831>commies.jpgCommunists don't have cars. That's why Cubans are still using the exact same vehicles from the 50s prior to the revolution there. And North Koreans have even less (except for Kim's private collection).
I'm sure one of you miggers will be able to explain in detail and with facts why this is a bad thing.
>>539710196This is the type of shit that sounds good to stupid people, to which socialism is targeted, but very likely it will destroy business and create supply problems possibly even resulting in lower tax revenue.>There are major sections of the city that are pretty much entirely reliant on crappy little bodegas and convenience stores for all their groceries, which is obviously not great for procuring actually fresh and healthy ingredients, let alone anything at a reasonable price.If there was a demand for "fresh and healthy ingredients", stores would open that supplied it. Have you not read a single text on the basic principles of economics? Sometimes, demand is not enough if other factors intervene, but you're gonna have to explain first why this is the case here.
>>539715695This nigga has never shared food in his life what the fuck
>>539715756Meant to answer >>539710588
>>539710196the Sandnigger Harem behind him
>>539714383>Tucker isn't really MAGA anymore.You mean he doesn't suck Israel's dick like Zion Don? That's a good thing. Tucker is based for that.And btw, I'm the same. I used to be MAGA, pro-Trump and all that. I voted for him twice. But the Epstein shit, this war, and so on feel like a betrayal.
>lets give communism a trial run in america, get Americans accustomed to it>we’ll install a muslim to do it and make him slightly antisemitic so its not our fault
>>539711590Bodegas are where the average NYC citizen goes to buy Chore Boy in bulk, they'll be fine
>>539714454>You guys are saying this shouldn't be tried at all.Anyone who knows the history of communism is rightly saying this. It has been tried, and failed, far more times than you even know.
>>539715845Well, he spoke a big game about being remorseful of his contribution to MAGA.But, we shall see.
>>539715179Military stores are for military personnel. Very low likelihood of thieves or resellers.
>>539710385Cuba, the small island country the proves that communism doesn't work so hard that it requires a 60+ year illegal starvation blockade to prove that it fails and will collapse in approximately two weeks
>>539710196>tax-funded>still selling the food at the storeI thought it was all tax funded?
>>539715916>not sucking israel's cock = antisemeticYou revealed your hand, mccarthyist kike.
>>539715234>How come these alt leftists go on about ubi and other innovative stuff so much but when in power they choose the most statist old solutionsUBI is statist. It puts people completely dependent on the state.
>>539715976As >>539715601 mentioned, it appears to be market socialism. Which fits into Zohran being a socialist.As far as communism/socialism is concerned, it seems like there might be something to market socialism.Even britannica thinks so.https://www.britannica.com/money/socialism>If socialism has a future, it may well lie in some form of market socialism. Market socialism promises neither the utopia of the early socialists nor the brave new world that Marx and his followers envisioned as the fulfillment of history. But it does promise to promote cooperation and solidarity rather than competitive individualism, and it aims at reducing, if not eliminating, the class divisions that foster exploitation and alienation. In these respects, this modest, decentralized version of socialism continues to sound the themes that have long inspired people to take up the cause of socialism.
>>539715623>>it spoilsWhere the hell do you live in the city? I have 4 grocery stores within a 10 minute walk and they're all reasonably priced. Maybe you're just a retard?
>>539715623I feel you the economy is totally busted. I live in the most taxed place in the whole of North America. It's not any better here. Something has to change.
>>539715623>Account Account doesn't mean prevent. Things spoil the only thing that you can do is throw them out when they do. They're accounting for it, what they aren't accounting for is the massive amount of theft.
>>539716082Whites pay, niggers continue to get 100% off discounts in the form of shoplifting
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!>YOU CAN'T JUST SKIP CORPORATIONS AND CHARGE WHAT THE STORES PAY BEFORE MARKING IT UP!!!
>>539710196>Starvation is the future of the USYou didn't get the guns, commies. It's gonna be cool to get to watch out of touch Marxists try to launch another revolution preemptively and get absolutely blown the fuck out
>>539710196>EBT funded local farm subsidiaryGood idea to scam money off the fed government
>go early>buy everything at 30% discount>resell at 10% discountWhy won't this work?
>>539715179Everything in those stores goes for MSRP prices. They have some goodies like their own tasty exclusive comfort fast foods. HUNT pizza is the bumb
>>539710196Would rather have government run groceries than browned bodegas that provide cover for all sorts of criminal activity
>>539716487>why won't my side hustle to scam poor people out of money they don't have work
>>539710196 The thing is this guy is a popcorn munching meme. The whole event is only in NYC. Only a stupid asshole goes into NYC. We get to sit back, and watch stupid assholes do worse stupid asshole things, and then see if they kill each other live on TV. This is kind of fucking awesome. Unless they pull a money backing power move to force it to work no matter what. Like the movie Odyssey with the zipper tits dried raison face dike. That would be very boring and cringe celebration
>>539716487u take EBT?
>>539710196Do these people just not read history. This is how famines happen
>>539716669bruh...
>>539716740They're going to have to wall off NYC to keep the starving hordes inside the city limits.
>>539716750Refer to >>539716697
No stop i love 7.99 bags of m&ms
>>539711393in a southern us state in the 90s, a corporation offered their pork products for a few cents a pounds, operating at a loss for a year, so that they could put all the small time pork farming businesses out of business.It succeeded, so they offered this across the country and now there are very few pork companies left.Pigs now eat trash literally in the US and its only banned in half of the states. Not a huge problem, except that the companies feeding them trash don't bother removing the food from the plastic so they're inhaling everything.If you think a government entity is going to act more altruistic subsidizing a product you're a retard. This gives one entity control to do whatever the fuck they want. Look up how much government spends on building gas stations in the middle east, it's not multiplicatively more but exponentially because they don't have to be competitive in the slightest. A monopoly is still a monopoly and government workers are the laziest and don't give a shit. I know, because I worked for them.If you want lower store prices, you lower stupid regulation and allow shopkeepers to shoot thieves so they don't have to upcharge average citizens to make up for the losses. These 10,000 stores in New York aren't in a secret price cabal.
>>539710196>Somebody who wants to help the lower and middle class and not elitists.How terrible!
>>539716810the american dream redefined
>>539716740They do read history. The real history, not the fake shit fed to the masses.They want the famine.
>>539710316Is it because of nigger food deserts?
>>539716838>>Somebody who wants to help the lower and middle class and not elitists.The middle class is going to be subsidizing the groceries of poor, retarded new yorkers who are already getting the rest of their lives subsidized by the middle class. You must be 13 to post here.
>>539711161Every single person living in the US today, even the poorest poorfags, lives a far better, safer, more comfortable, better life than the average person in the USSR at any point from 1917-1991.
>>539716487Grocery stores are notoriously one of the most difficult businesses to run. The margins are stupidly low even before theft, spoilage, and shrinkage.
30% below retail? That’s bullshit. Make stuff free.I thought mumdami cared about disadvantaged youth?
>>539710316They will work until, as with all problems in socialism, they run out of other people's money.
>>539710316You're paying though
>>539710196How is this a bad thing?Do americans really love getting fucked in the ass by jews that much that they see something like this as evil?
>>539710385Cuba voted to decommunize a little bit ago hilariously enough
>>539717275>government run store is cheaper than legit businesses>legit businesses fail>demand for more Gov stores go up>prices go up>breadlines form
>>539710657>the other sideNYC was dammed to have a Democrat mayor because of all the foreign welfare parasites and brainwashed commie kids
>>539711106Sure they can, if you force the taxpayer to subsidize their goods as well
>>539710385>memeflag>muh cubaYou're paying taxes on your rental property, boomer, and there's nothing you can do about it.
>>539715179You mean the stores for a small percentage of the population?>>539710196Breadlines when?
>>539710588Food desert - isn't that when stores leave a location because of niggers stealing?
>>539716697
>>539717575These people still don't know that most of the wealthy's wealth comes from loans secured by their businesses as collateral. They can't tax a loan. They can't force Elon to sell stock. If Elon wants to pay himself 0$ a year on paper, then they're fuck out of luck
>>539717336>government run store is cheaper than legit businesses.>only the poorest niggers and illegal aliens buy there.>decent people prefer to pay a little more to shop in a proper store>normal businesses profit increase because they're not constantly being robbed by shoplifters>They also don't have to deal with EBT niggers.>Since normal businesses are safer than nigger-infested gov stores they get an influx of more wealthy costumers>literally everyone wins
>>539717742You could be a professor at an Ivy League
>>539710196>retail store>prices 30% below retailWhat?Like how does this even work? Does the NYPD confiscate the pasta boxes from Walmart or Barilla? Or do NYC taxpayers fund the full price for them before they are resold at a 30% discount? Are there ID checks at those stores to stop non-poors from shopping there? Is there a ration limit on all items per household? Or could Trump send his mexican housekeeper for a permanent 30% discount? Please explain.
>>539717575>Universal Childcarelol, nice try jews. wonder how many kickbacks they are getting from all the somali childcare fraud centers? if one cannot own a home there is no way you are raising a child, unless of course you're a nigger
>>539710196end wokeness early life check?
>>539717824>Or do NYC taxpayers fund the full price for them before they are resold at a 30% discount?Yes>Are there ID checks at those stores to stop non-poors from shopping there? Is there a ration limit on all items per household? Or could Trump send his mexican housekeeper for a permanent 30% discount? Please explain.Not in the beginning. Give it a month for the bill to come though
>>539710196How I think this will work is Mamdani's cronies will buy out grocery stores that collapse and convert them to city run. City run meaning a lot of money from the government. This program will be funneling half a billion dollars a year to islamists by the time they get mamdani out.
>>539717897>>539717824This does not seem like it would work in the long run. And in this day and age what is stopping an outrage streamer type from dropping 20k and buying everything in the store and cleaning it out? Does NYC have uber eats? You could even have a pajeet do your grocery shopping there for you.This entire thing is a loophole.
>>539716968Not necessarily. The USSR at least had sweeping rent control.So, while Americans had more luxury, the USSR had more social security.
>>539710760Do you really think that this communist idea works and that no one else has ever seen it tried before? Do you think the world began when you were born and that Mamdani and his flock are somehow just more clever than everyone else, ever?Mamdani, Sanders, AOC, Hasan Piker, Ro Khanna, etc. are all political grifters who come from money and/or privilege, and they're selling whatever crap they think people will buy just to keep themselves at the top of the political pyramid and keep the millions, the fame, the first class travel, the pampered lifestyle for thenselves. Not only does Mamdani come from a wealthy family, but he's also ethnically part of the group who took over and oppressed Uganda. His own family could be called colonizers where he's from, but then he thinks he gets to come and enjoy America just to shit on it, probably out of personal bitterness and his own conflicted identity and upbringing.
>>539710385>force the faggot Jews to sell things for stuff other than profit>tell them you can’t scalp and ration the items per person>OMG CUBA WERE BEING OPPRESSEDstfu you central bank Jew
>Cheap groceries!?>This just like the Soviet Union>What's next, universal healthcare!?
>>539717889He's indian like all these far-right grifter accounts.
>>539716125Cringe. Antisemitism is whatever jews say it is. Dumbass. You’re the one trying legitimizing it.
>>539718265>jew shuts down store and leaves the cityWhat now?
>>539710196Everything Mamdani believes in is incredibly retarded (aside from his hatred of Israel, very based), but I have respect for him for actually following through with his incredibly retarded campaign promises
>>539717575>the American dream is two parents having to work while the state brainwashes their childrenWe need to start stacking people like firewood
>>539710196Year 2: Hey everyone, the new government grocery store is doing great, we just need to implement a small 1% additional income tax due to some unforseen cost increases.Year 5: Hey everyone, the new government grocery store is doing great, we have to increase that small 1% tax to 5%. Don't be so greedy, it's just your fair shareYear 10: Hey everyone, the state run grocery stores are doing great, we're going to go door to door for voluntary donations, they are just voluntary. If you don't have food to donate we will just take some of your stuff, you can choose what we take, you have total control over what items we take as a donation to fund the grocery store. The tax is also going to decrease from 5% to 7%.
>>539711161He’s talking about before the revolution. It’s better for things to get really bad because then people will accept the communist solutions.
>>539710316The system has failed. The country is fucked either way.
>>539718486a single porcupine
>>539710196They are going to put them in food "deserts". The problem is they are not going to address why these deserts exist. It's because niggers steal non-stop from the stores. The niggers will steal non-stop from these stores as well.
>>539711393A leftist brit. The dumbest of the dumb.
>>539711106>Taking your taxes to sell free stuff to bankrupt youEuropean economics
>live in Westchester>send servant to shop for 30% discount on NYC tax payer dime
>>539719013There are no food deserts in NYC. Lack of stores is mostly a rural area problem.
>>539719088>Mamdani proposes SNAP ID, biometric scans, rationing, and armed guards stationed outside the storesAh. Beautiful
>>539710747ayo holdz da phone... uzz be saying some fancy wypipo wordz, now explains to me my nigguh what doez a food desert mean shieet? holdz up I gotz to solve diz puzzle real quick (Unknowingly trains the AI Algorithm like a good monkey which will lock dis nigguh out of the planet earth)
>>539710196my favorite thing is going to be when they claim it's a big success because of how much is spent in those stores. I'm looking forward to the headlines about how they're WAY more popular than the competition, kek. >I'm losing a dollar on every sale, but I'm making it up in volume!Meanwhile, the people he's fleecing to fund this shit are leaving while Hokul just bails out the city budget every fucking year
>>539713001So then the entire world is a race to the bottom for the rich and we have to let them put their Jew institutes in place with all their gay lawyer and business rules or they’ll leave. Rich people own the US, and nationalizing the businesses wouldn’t be right even they take subsidies from our tax money and then circumvent the constitution! All the rich people are leaving oh no! They own us we have to do what they want!
>>539719288Where are you going to get the money to fund your socialist paradise when the rich people leave?
>>539710385Alternatively>prices at these stores go down 30%>goysumers now have an extra 30% to spend>companies start inflating their prices to absorb this amount (candy bar that costs $1 now costs $1.30)>companies get guaranteed profits via taxes>every other customer who doesn’t shop at these stores suffers from artificial inflation>eventually tax funded stores close down >prices stay high anyway
This is gonna be so fucking funny. They're gonna run a bunch of bodegas and grocery stores out of business, then the tax revenue is gonna plummet and they're not gonna have funding for the stores anymore.
>>539713831You’re using the fact that some right wingers don’t understand their own ideology as proof that yours is correct to try and support an idea that I watched fail in my own city. The fallacy of the weak supporter.Same exact shit prageru bases all of its street interviews onBut funny enough, Kansas City already tried almost all of these mamdani reforms like 10 years ago. Funny enough with zero fanfare and it never made national news. But what did happen is it became a massive money drain that just failed in the end and they quietly shut it down. The buses that were free for many years are now not free anymore, (and actually cost more than before and now only take cash) and the government grocery store that they made in the hood got robbed so much that it got shut down.I don’t know if He’s trying to change animal control, but honorable mention is how they put some kind of vegan NGO over animal control, and it resulted in tons of mauling deaths Until they were eventually forced to rehire real animal control from other cities.I was a security guard during this time and there would be packs of stray dogs attacking my clients and I’d have to use myself as bait to get them off of the property. You would call and nobody would come. Or sometimes they just straight up refuse.I liked the idea of the buses being free, but apparently it didn’t work.
>>539719388What do you think the margin for grocery stores is?
>>539718433Open a new store with blackjack and hookers.
>>539718147>what about people scalping!!What about physically removing those people from society altogether?
>>539710316>Niggers paying
>>539710196>tax funded>70% prices>tax>funded>...>pricesletting brown people have rights is the dumbest thing white men have ever done
>>539718224We subsidize oil companies, and the economies of nations world wide, and increased military spending while ignoring all domestic issues they can absolutely afford to fix and then don’t. They have all the money in the world, they print it for them and their friends, and then cut social rights from others. We subsidize all of fucking Europe and half of South America. Stop acting like they can’t do this or can’t afford it, it’s just that’s it’s not another military contract they can get kickbacks from and a position on the board.
>>539718433>JEWS CAN ONLY MAKE THE LOANS FOR BUSINESSES!>central banking means only Jews can XYou take control of those businesses and then change the laws
>>539713831Honestly, the funniest part was that on the NGO‘s website they said something like “we prioritize education (whatever that means) not violence“The translation was basically “you’re on your own when Fido is ripping your genitals off, will show up a week later to make a report of the incident, and if the dog isn’t still on the property will throw our hands up“Like I said, I’m not sure if that’s anything mamdani Is doing, but it’s an example of one of the many policies our city tried and it’s funny in my opinion lol.A guy on a bicycle got ripped to shreds by five dogs and died in the hospital before the council finally went back on it.
This wouldn't be so much of a radical idea if they actually planned out vertical integration and contracted out farmers for direct to shelves groceries. What they should do is have a limited inventory and only offer healthy food items so niggers with ebt cards don't blow it on pepsi and takis to resell in the projects. Sell fruits and vegetables from farms with long term contracts so they're also off the commercial market fighting price arbitrage. Reduce the middlemen as much as possible, set it up as grocery markets. niggas don't eat carrots so I'm not even concearned about theft at this point.
>>539710588>memeflag doesn't understand free marketsIf it were profitable to run a grocery store, selling fresh meat and produce in that area, then somebody would have one. Little shitty bodegas are that way for a reason, they have a bunch of slop because that's what the low end consumer wants.
>>539719786Not gonna lie, I don’t know enough about this. You seem way more educated than I am, but google the time that Kansas City tried this and get back to me because I’m actually curious what you think. It totally failed in Kansas City, but I’m open to the idea if it’s something that someone who seems to know their shit like you would cosign.
>>539719765How are you going to change the law so that you can make a profit and stay in business?
>>539719786that's literally just a farmer's market.you create farmer's markets by not taxing farmers to death and shooting anyone who tries to steal their land.
>>539710906Price controls never work. Unless your goal is to create shortages. In which case they work beautifully.
>>539719376Do you think Jews are the ones being productive and running society? Why do you faggots think the class that clearly controls the laws around loans and central banking should have control over your stores and hospitals? So unless you let these gouging pieces of shit run things we won’t be able to? The government already subsidizes thousands of companies and millions of people internationally, so why can’t they do it for certain foods and groceries. Who is doing it for people that live in countries with healthcare? You just don’t like the idea of helping poor people.
>>539710316is taking from white taxes to sell to niggers at lower price, works until white money ends
>>539711048Did you miss the part where it said that prices will be 30% below retail price? That's price controls.
>>539719555Kek with what? You won't do shit
>>539719690Niggers has been subsidized for ages with EBT to be bioweapons. None of this is new. Niggers also scalp with their EBT.
>>539718284 What’s going on here is the Dunning Kruger effect. The guys you pictured are very dumb and they don’t understand why they think the things they do beyond just common sense. Midwits Like you know, just enough rhetoric to ignore your common sense. And then smart people know enough that they end up, realizing that their common sense was right.I’m not against this idea in principal, I just know it failed in my city. Literally all of this guy’s campaign promises were tried in Kansas City 10 years ago lolFunny enough there was absolutely zero controversy or fanfare about it and it just failed silently years later.Which makes me think even more that he is just another Jewish slop candidate. Just like AOC it’s a bunch of fake controversy.Politics version of an street plant
>>539719945This is like saying “who will work the jobs of women if you take away their right to work”. Who said anything about making profit? This shithole is already massively socialized to benefit people who don’t do shit. We are already paying tons of people money for 0 tangible use to society. Who will be garbage men when you tell women to get in the kitchen?? oh no!
>>539710316This is not price control but competition, foundation of capitalism.
>>539710772your taxes and contribution to the system end up in bombed people around the world. your country is shit because you're a tool for the jews and they abuse you hardcore 110% . they fuck you over like a gullible friendly girl that doesn't fight back on all the mistreatment, it's kinda sad actually.
>>539720097They’re doing it right now bitch, it’s actually you that don’t do shit when they hand all your high paying jobs to women and Indians while they produce nothing necessary to Canada. This is absolutely going to work, and the sniveling ivory tower cowards beanpoles on the right who only make as revenue money from Jews will do nothing but complain. They have done nothing but scream wake up, but have 0 actionable solutions to anything. They’re going to redistribute your wealth, and there won’t be some magical collapse because they have already redistributed your job market and dating market. The left actually does shit and has no problem being violent or showing up in groups, the right has 0 teeth in this regard. How can you even fight back when you can’t even say Nigger in public?
>>539710316>>539720483Yeah, and it's only specific stores. Not every store in NYC.
>>539718284>>Cheap groceries!?>>This just like the Soviet UnionPeople in the Soviet Union didn't know what groceries even were. That's the reason why Yeltsin was so shocked when he came to an American supermarket, because the USSR had nothing even remotely like that. What they did have though were mass famines, or bread lines (at best).
>>539720584What exactly are they doing to stop scalping niggers?
>>539719942Looked into it, and where they fucked up was placing it smack dab in the middle of the worst parts of the city, with a full inventory of shit niggers would actually want to steal, like cough drops and hair dye. So they beefed up security and slimmed down inventory over the years until it was too unprofitable for the retail space. Even NPR and the nonprofit operating it blatantly said they got nigger fatigue lmao. Back to this in NY: Keep in mind, the reality is that you're going to operate this store at break even or small loss with the government absorbing it. The goal is to employ farmers and stock almost exclusively produce and meat. You don't place it in the projects, but poor working class families that are 10-15 mins away from the worst parts of the city. That's where the Aldis and other low income grocery stores were in KC. But let's be honest they're never gonna get that far. It's gonna be a total shitshow. They'll get the dumbest gorilla nigger sheboons to plan out some terrible strip mall next to three boarded up weave salons and 2nd hand thrift store and it'll get robbed and fall apart.
>>539716226Yes it is market socialism. However, I believe to make it work you need something like Chinese authoritarianism that doesn't bend easily to the whims and wishes of citizens. With democracy you just risk that every election becomes about who can offer more bungs and further distortions to the market
>>539710385How about this:>Sell everything out >Open new stores selling groceries with israeli tax>Keep opening stores until no store runs out >Eventually big chains have to start selling food without israeli taxReminder: Food production has not become more expensive, the middle men have inflated prices. The farmer doesn't get paid more, the workers don't get paid more. Only the middle men jews are pricing everything up for fatter margins. There is literally nothing that has happened during 6 years that has warranted the price of everything going up 2-3 times.The free market has clearly not been a solution for anything, since it created this whole problem.
>>539710327>if you stop paying jews and instead just direct money to healthcare we can have healthcareBasically.Unemployment is similar in Australia. We have jewish companies that oversea part of the system. If we just removed the jews and used that money to give anyone that wants unemployment unemployment we'd save millions.
>>539714454It's been tried. Those who lived trough it are trying to warn you but somehow you just know that it'll be different this time. Suicidal naivete is not a feature.
>>539710327Nobody thinks free healthcare is free, everyone knows it's tax funded. It's just called free because it's much easier and shorter to convey the concept in regular speech. It has been proven time over time that private healthcare with insurance companies and for-profit hospitals taking fat slices for themselves have not been a solution for the population, the only people who benefit from a system like that are the ultra-rich who can afford to pay for special healthcare. That's how you have world class treatment in some US hospitals, but that same standard of care doesn't apply for 99% of US citizens.
>>539713312The retards in this thread wouldnt have a problem with this if america was a white only country, you can't have a high trust country with niggers and spics
Heh you know that thing that never works?Well we are going to try it again.Take that losers, lol.
