China stole the idea of DUV from a Dutch company and is making their own copy, en massehttps://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/semiconductors/china-begins-mass-production-of-domestic-immersion-duv-lithography-machinesAccording to The Information (its paywalled), a state-backed Shanghai company has begun mass-producing China's first "homegrown" immersion DUV lithography machines, with about five units expected this year for companies named SMIC, Hua Hong, and CXMT, each of them receiving one working copy of a machine. 33 more units are expected already in 2027, by summers. The Information didn't name the manufacturer, but its sources described the operation as having pulled DUV development teams from several Chinese companies, one of them the state-backed startup Shanghai Yuliangsheng Technology. SMIC has been testing a Yuliangsheng immersion tool since September 2025. Most components in the new systems are domestic, though some critical parts still come from Japan, and delays at local suppliers have held back output this year.China accounts for around 20% of ASML's net sales this year, down from 33% in 2025, driven mainly by mainstream logic demand... Independent analysis from the AI Futures Project in June put commercial-scale Chinese immersion DUV in the mid-2030s, with ASML holding 98.7% of the immersion market. Qualifying the new machines for production lines could take many months, and they trail ASML's tools on performance and build quality. China's domestic EUV effort, which Reuters first reported as a working prototype in December, remains years away.
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>>539720355damn straight and there's nothing u can do about it
good
>>539720355>Noooo you can't just copy an entire civilization from us
>>539720355Why am I not allowed to own a lithography machine? Everyone should have one. We could build those everywhere instead of data centers.
>>539720355I only take Adderall on those types of mornings. Makes you feel good and forget sleep deprived
>china winning and advantage on this former monopoly is X years in the future, so do not worry ok
>>539720726>magic melted sand is basically the only thing maintaining the US economy at this point in time>wizard machines that put the magic in the sand were the exclusive domain of one (1) company in the netherlands, and grorious chyna was forbidden from owning one>chyna now owns the the last gen model, and is copy-pasting more>fast-forward 12 months>all of the non-frontier magic sand is now available on Temuseems pretty political to me
>>539721256what does Adderall do?
DUV = Dutch undervear?
Wtf is it with China and breaking monopolies?Hard not to see them as the good guys when they take something shit expensive and start selling it at a fraction of the price.
>>539720355>chinese state saidkek
>>539720355too many acronymsI'm not googling all that shit
The cutting edge one is EUV, not DUV, and they're still years away from the former
>>539722639couldnt DUV be used for a lot of things
>>539722893You can use it to make "good enough" chips for most purposes
>>539720355Why did they even sell them one in the first place knowing well enough these shitheads will reverse engineering it like literally every bit of western tech?
>chink thread
>>539720355These guy do building refits fast to make everything from soda machines to motorbikes. Logistics is retarded.
They didn't steal shit lol
>>539720355They copied everything from the West, including our cities. What do you expect?
>>539722533I wish Germoney was launching rockets into space, but it can only shrink it's manufacturing sector and beat itself in the balls nowadays
