>inb4 get a warrantAt the border, you don't have constitutional rights yet until you LEGALLY cross it.The Bill of Rights only applies to Americans and (partially) to legal aliens.
As long as we can guarantee that it's only going to be used at the border, I don't see the problem with it. Cops investigating crimes still need to get a fucking warrant (burden of proof is on THEM), but if you're trying to enter America, then the burden of proof is ON YOU.
>>539736566Still legally uncharted water, china shill
>>539736566>#8427732688 GOS counter signalling thread
>things that never happened
>>539736567>then the burden of proof is ON YOU>You get accused of something you didn't do>Somehow the burden of proving your innocence is on you instead of the border officer on proving you're guilty>Somehow 10IQ subhuman cattle think it's okay to treat everyone as criminals by default at the borderAnd people always wonder why dictatorships and fascist laws get created.
>>539736571Fuck off, open border kike.
>>539736566>At the border, you don't have constitutional rights yet until you LEGALLY cross it.No. The BP does have some expanded powers at the border, but all rights apply.>The Bill of Rights only applies to Americans and (partially) to legal aliensNo. It applies to everyone, even illegal aliens within the jurisdiction of the US.
>>539736572What's your grandmother's maiden name? When did your family come to the US?Thought so.
>>539736566Good luck proving he wasn't carrying a freshly wiped phone to begin with.
>>539736566If the traveler is not a U.S. Citizen, then the traveler does not have any right to enter the USA.
>>539736573lolno, nice try Pedro you have to go back
>>539736566How do they know he had any evidence? Was he an actual suspect in any crime?
>>539736578The burden of proof at the border lies on you to prove that you're not a threat to the country. It's basic defense, without which you don't have a real nation state.
>>539736578The charge is for interfering with seizure.It doesn't matter what was on the phone.https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/2232
>>539736573You don't have Fourth Amendment rights at the border. This is well established case law.
worth it. making glowies seethe that their job can’t be easy is the point
>>539736577Pedro has to go back but the white American citizen should have his rights respected.>>539736581Which law establishes that American citizens don't have their rights at the border?As soon as a lawyer gets a hold of this it'll get chucked out of court immediately.
>>539736572>open border kike>I say while living in an open borders country>they just don't allow undesirables, but most anybody can request asylumState system is the jewish system, but you are a zogbot. Without borders trade and travel would be free, and nobody would WANT to shit up other places as often.
>>539736579He could have just left his phone at home. If he's a danger why didn't they shoot him? Don't you guys love shooting people?
>>539736566this is the white and kike hell we all live in
>>539736566destroying evidence is indeed illegal
Glowies can't force you to unlock your phone. Fake news.
>>539736587You need evidence that he was involved in something illegal first to prove that.This is just some random white American that protested a cop training center yet was placed on a terrorism watch list.Conspiracy:Some point it'll come out that this happened "by mistake" by an AI controlled by Palantir and nobody will even care.This is the future.
>>539736587evidence of what faggot?
>>539736587Okay anon, I will charge you of destroying evidence because I suspect you were hiding something from me, just take my word for it.
I don't care about any of much of what goes on in this world other than knowing what these whites and kike pedophiles are going to put blame on me for them kidnapping, raping, torturing and murdering kids. Because that's all this shit is—the fake Epstein Files release psyop turned into a insane rollout of mass surveillance and WE ate being punished for it.
>>539736592an* insaneare*
>>539736566How about we get the WHOLE story here and not a fucking misleading headline designed for clicks and likes?Who is the duche they stopped? A known drug trafficer they were investigating for years? Some random 4Chan chud minding xer own business? Some pedo they tracked with CP on the device?Anyone actually know what the fuck was going on?
>>539736594Furthermore, if you are the type of person to use Graphene and trigger a wipe like this, why did you not anticipate such a search and just have minimal data on your phone to avoid issues. There isnt a huge downside to redownloading stuff once you in the country.
>>539736594Are you being serious? You think you're going to get a full and objective account of this situation from anyone?
>>539736594The person they arrested for destroying evidence was a lawful us citizen whose family has been in america for centuries.He's white skinned, blue eyed and has blond hair.He's 6 foot tall with a 6 inch dick and 6 figure salary.They arrested him anyway because he wiped his phone.
>>539736596The only way to get an object answer is to say the guy was white, blond haired, blue eyed, coming from a long lineage of american citizens, and he was never involved in any crime or protest. Nobody will answer question unless you explain it like this. That's what I have noticed.
>>539736566based, the fourth and fifth amendment deserve to be overturned
>>539736574Hayes and before there was a 'US'. Nice try though.
>>539736589Not at a border you don't.
>>539736566Get a warrant, faggot.Cops don't need phone access to spot a beaner. EVERY beaner should be checked and forced to carry a citizenship card until this shit is under control. Don't like it? Report the illegal beaners and help clean up.
>>539736566>HoneyPot OSnah, I'm good
>>539736575while you may not be able to undelete files entirely i find it hard to believe there aren't forensics methods to detect whether flash storage has been recently used. If they catch it in the act you should be able to see it on infrared/heat camera since it'll just be overwriting the while drive.
>>539736756The duress feature alone makes GrapheneOS really attractive. Imagine criminals trying to access your banking or crypto or whatever the fuck details and you simply wipe not only all your personal data but the smirk off of their nigher faces
>>539736566no, because they are here illegallyrights apply to US citizens only
>>539736566>destroying evidence>for a crime that hasn't been established yet
>>539736566Used to be they would have to prove there was evidence to destroy. That is probably no longer the case, especially if the perp was white.
>>539736566Always use a pin so pigs can never force you to unlock your phone.
>>539737390It's fearporn advertisement. The pigs want the technique to serve them but not the goycattle citizens.
>>539736573>but all rights apply.To Americans.
*technology
>>539737429Since the Patriots Act they can just arrest you and keep you hostage without a court warrant and if you happen to be innocent they release you but under a gag order.
>>539736566Why do people keep illegal porn on their phones, as if it'll never be lost, stolen or searched?
>>539737415They didn't have a warrant, they hadn't charged him with a crime, they've got nothing.The state would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that there was evidence of criminal activity in there and not just embarrassing pictures that the guy didn't want the cops looking at. The state has no case, I don't even think it will go to trial.
>>539736566Evidence of what? How would they know it's evidence if they never had any idea what was on it?
>>539737764I think they are currently operating on the basis of him being an alien flying in on an international flight, making the constitution somehow not apply. Its the feds so they will just park him somewhere on this charge until they can trump up something else to charge him on.
>>539736580but he didnt destory what they were seizingthey still had the phone
>>539737317>Imagine criminals trying to access your banking or crypto or whatever the fuck details and you simply wipe not only all your personal data but the smirk off of their nigher facesRarely has an xkcd comic been more relevant
>>539736566can they probe the phone had actual evidence in it?
>>539736566you will *not* access my data during border crossing, I can wipe anything I desireusually its best done before going through customs so they only get to inspect completely blank device with over written storage
>>539736579>border>AMERICAN citizenNah, die in a fucking fire kike
>>539737938Not only did they have the phone, it was a border agent that inputted the pin.Are there not policies in place for protecting the data on a suspected terrorists phone or can anyone use this duress features and have the idiot input it into the phone to wipe everything?You'd think they'd show a little more care. I'm struggling to imagine how this is anything other than their fault.
>>539738051>I'm struggling to imagine how this is anything other than their fault.maybe there is some other reason they want to keep him locked up and are just making shit up to get things along far enoughbeen there, done that
>>539738051It's your fault they are genociding you.
>>539736580>The charge is for interfering with seizure.How is this a valid claim? The unseen/unknown/yet-to-be-discovered cannot be classifieds as evidence
>>539736566Why the fuck would illegal have such luxury phone ? seem like they could have carried their country instead of trying to being a faggot in somewhere else
>>539738015If you're going to wipe it every time you travel why even bring it and not just a burner phone?Sounds really inconvinient.
>>539736566>The Bill of Rights only applies to Americans and (partially) to legal aliens.I can't recall the argument offhand, but due process is a civic imperative in every circumstance. If we are to apply law to the individual, we must afford them all applicable rights enshrined within the law. All else is tyranny and fascism.
>>539738221if you need a specific device you need a specific device
>>539737739Nobody keeps anything on their phone. But airport kikes have been known to steal tons of cash off of people. So if you have a crypto wallet on your phone or your bank account, they can take your phone away, scan it to get all your details and then give it back6 months later all your info is suddenly in India and rajeesh is committing fraud using your name MUH porn on phone is just a boogeyman to trick clueless retards into accepting unlawful search and seizure >Well you're not a pedo Aren't you anon. If you don't give me your phone, then you are. Almost 500 million this year on fraud charges alone because at every department level is a jeet sending all your info out
>>539738221also you know whats more inconvenient? letting a foreign stranger with potentially malicious intent access your communications, finances and NDA protected secrets
>>539736566Based. Anyone who has something like that installed on their phone is up to no good, and obviously had CP or other similarly illegal material on their phone.
>>539738179Here is what they do. They go to the USA to work hard doing mostly construction and farming jobs for the summer while mexico is hot as balls. Then go back home during the winter to party and build up their life. Then repeat.
>>539738376have you literally never signed NDA? have you literally never traveled internationally? are you unemployed?
>>539736566I wouldn't even bother to take a phone overseas. who tf am I gonna call?
surely there's an option for multiple partitions accessible through different passwords on these are schizo devices no?
>>539738435everything from creating VPN enabled hotspot for your laptop .. or just.. listening to audio books
I wouldn't take my phone nor laptop now. I'd just get a new cheap laptop
>>539738051I am pretty sure in the UK the cops can compel you to give up passwords regardless of immigration status. This is why tools like Veracrypt offer hidden partitions etc. The US is unique in its protections against unreasonable search and seizure.
>>539738526just remember to fully encrypt the drive and if you're using bitlocker enable boot password
>>539736566This is bullshit. >we can't prove it was evidence you erased>but we're charging you with destroying evidence Sorry, but the founding fathers would place the cops in the stockades
>>539736566mutts are just so easily distracted by the pissrael gorilla grip that amerigoyim forgot to just tariff GrapheneOS another 50%
>>539738604They can, but they rarely ever ask their own citizens to do so. When I come back home through the grim passport control at Heathrow or Gatwick, it's a "Where did you come from?", "Okay, straight through.".They're well aware I'm not a danger to anyone, let alone my own country.Those kind of searches in UK airports only occur if they already have very, VERY, very, high levels of confidence that you're up to no good.
>>539736566Who was the constitution and the bill of rights created for? Americans or everyone in the whole world? I think it should only apply to Americans.
>>539738653I always used veracrypt to encrypt my stuff, but that's old I heard. Never letting these fags search my shit. Why be a goy.
>>539737960kek
>>539736587What evidence did he destroy?
>>539736566If the state needs unfettered access to your phone and accounts to stop illegal immigrants, human traffickers and pedos then we need to start questioning the competence of those who are demanding it. What happened to the Epstein files anyway. They supposedly released the files, with every criminal and victim redacted from them.
>>539738918What we need is AI running on our phones to identify human traffickers, drug dealers, pedos, murderers, thieves etc. We could stop a lot of crime that way if it was identified in real time and automatically sent to the cops.
>>539738786>very, VERY, very, high levels of confidence that you're up to no good.Like screenshots of your wrongspeak on social media?
>>539738807>Americans or everyone in the whole world?Everyone in the US. It's the law of the land. If they're here, US laws apply to them, including the Constitution.
>>539738989That's actual evidence, yes. Don't put that shit out there if you don't want people to see it because, surprise, when you post on social media the government and police forces, etc, can see it too.
Another point worth mentioning is, the criteria used to declare you a domestic terrorist. Thats unbelievable in its own right.
I have a second pin that, when entered, triggers an unstoppable loop of crab dance at 200% volume. You can't shut off the phone. You can't mute it. You will enjoy the dancing crabs until you give back my phone.
>>539738376Why is it always child abuse? Why not illegal books, whistleblower documents, stolen bank card codes, dirty bomb blueprints, drug dealers address, foreign government intel or whatever else, why must you bootlocking retards always bring up child abuse as the only reason why?
>>539739053The point is that your government is already cartoonishly evil with silly overreach, so your point that your government would only go after citizens "up to no good" is obviously wrong.
>What evidence glowie faggot.Kek
>>539739129That song is fire, though
>>539739153Wrongspeak in a public place is "up to no good". You can be a nazi in your own time but if you put that on social media don't be surprised if you get questioned about it.
>>539738359>>539738285But everything on it will have been wiped so why do you need that specific device instead of just a burner phone for traveling?I dont really understand
>>539736567Problem is they extend jurisdiction until everything is "the border." Federal immigration enforcement agencies don't need any reasonable suspicion or probable cause to stop a vehicle or person within 100 miles of the border. You can be a US citizen traveling or living near the border and they can detain you for nothing. Likewise, the Coast Guard can board and fully search any vessel within 12 miles of the US coast, and detain anyone on-board. Oh it's to protect our border right? Nope, they can do it on any lake or river within the US (and they definitely do it, they're petty as fuck).The feds have been shitting on our rights for ages.
>>539736566If they seen cp on there or pictures of missing children you might have a case. None of that was witnessed
>>539736566Cops shouldn't need a warrant to check anything. Only guilty people with something to hide would say no.
>>539739293like you have the device with features you want to use that you got at an actual great price and have confirmed to work and don't want to literally waste a thousand dollars buying similar at market prices
>>539739132Probably because that other stuff would have to be show to a jury.Where as with cp its obvious the jury isnt seeing that or any of the meta data about when the files were put there.Its easier for them to lie and say you had cp for this reason.
>>539739298And yes your phone and butthole can be searched at any border crossing or any international entry point at an airport. Probably at ports too but I haven't had experience with that.
>>539738880Well if you destroy the evidence they don't know. So you get charged with destroying evidence.Once they seize your phone it is evience and if you do something to destroy what is on your phone you destroyed it.It's like if microsoft was under subpoena and wiped all their servers.Well they cant just strug and say "what eveidence? Evidence of what?" They get charged.You just learned something from a genius. Thank me.
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>>539739415which is why it makes a lot more sense to just uninstall stuff and then reinstall it once across the border.
>>539739300Excuse me saaaaar I value privacy. In a world that is increasingly eroding privacy I feel the need to set boundaries of what I deem acceptable and unacceptable. Good luck grey boxing my phone goy, its got an encrypted hardened rom on it and you've just wiped it.
>>539736566This whole thing is a cluster fuck from the actions of the cops perspective. 1. They tried to plant CSAM on him.2. They had no actual reason to go after the guy, it was clear "we want to pin him with shit" case. 3. They failed to provide him with his constitutional rightsIf they manage to get this guy guilty the entire constitution is toast. Courts can just say you are guilty for WHATEVER, say you destroyed the evidence, deny you all your rights, then imprison you. If the judge does anything other than throw this case in the trash and berate the idiots trying to push this, America is fucked. That's full authoritarianism right there. Being a gov't official and pointing at a person, declaring them guilty, and just sending them straight to jail. The good news is this makes vigilantism 100% legal. You can take any person, declare them guilty, claim they destroyed all evidence of the crime, deny them their constitutional rights, shoot them on the spot via death penalty, and you'd be 100% in the legal right per this precedent. So yeah, absolutely fucked precedent, and competent Judge (aka non-kike) will throw this right on out. Heck, even a kike Judge fearing for their lives would throw this out.Remember, when the burden of evidence is gone, the accuser is ALWAYS right. So I can shoot and murder anyone I want, claim they did an un-provable crime, and I am in the right, all the time.
>>539739477Not enough.
>>539736566evergreen
>>539736566what evidence?
>>539739415>It's like if microsoft was under subpoena and wiped all their servers.Reminder this is legal: Hillary Clinton did this and never got charged or held accountable for it. So it's legal, according to Democrats. Also Clinton technically did worse - she destroyed government property AND destroyed evidence because of said Russian hack. It wasn't personal property. So this dude is either perfectly safe OR Hillary Clinton was definitely in the wrong and needs jail time. As long as this dude deploys the Hillary defense he's fine.
>>539739415>destroying evidence of what exactly If the cops have proof the phone had evidence of crimes they might have a case. It's like they are charging him obstruction when he's not legally required to cooperate per the 5th amendment
>>539739219Yeah, and how to they define "nazi speech" exactly?it wouldn't happen to be a convenient blanket that covers anything convenient at any time, woulld it?
>>539739376Nobody cares about CP, anon. CP doesn't do damage nor threaten the national security of the state in any shape or form. They are looking for something else or at least they should be.
>>539739619>Expectations >Reality
>>539739132The fed's goto for framing people is CSAM. Super easy to load it via back end hacks and they have AI infinite CSAM now for some states. Epstein's case made it hyper clear the feds do NOTHING for actual child abusers and the creators of said media, it's clearly a Jewish tool of control at this point. When was the last time an ACTUAL pedo saw jail time? The fucking women pedos get off all the fucking time, it's obscene. I don't actually know of ANY modern male pedos outside Epstein's island shit. It's all CSAM plants, or fucking anime shit that isn't even CSAM. Where are all the producers at? Why can't we get any of them? Why can't we hold a SINGLE FUCKING EPSTEIN PEDO accountable? The obvious answer is Jews of course. Jews are the actual abusers. Jewish MGM is legal baby, America loves child abuse. Can't harm the kike, so who do they go after? Regular people the kike doesn't like, they plant kike's evidence on them - just like those chickens they transfer sins to - and send them to jail in the kike's place.
>>539739536>the entire constitution is toastbruh. too fuckin' late
>>539739828They were very clearly trying to set him up because they said he had cp.Something that they wouldnt know before the search, and something they couldnt confirm because the phone was wiped.This confirms they were trying to plant cp on him. It was stupid of them to mention it because its proved what they were up to.They werent trying to find anythingThey were trying to fabricate evidence.
>>539736572I used to be for closed boarders, but we are on a second Trump term and still living this nightmare. Government is an unnecessary evil. Stop being upset about shitskins flooding us and start focusing on the government that's sanctioning it. Open boarders is fine if there's no government to mass-traffick low IQ violent browns in and sustain them with gibs and legal immunity. If we were a nation of self-reliant libertarians, nobody would come. This is Trump's fault as it was Biden's, Harris's, the nigger's, etc. Both Trump and Kamala publicly talked about boarder security while allowing the floodgates to remain open.
>>539739415He can argue that his phone had sensitive personal information
>>539739298This on top of the fact that they aren't actually doing jack diddly fucking shit to protect the border and keep illegals out
>>539738786You'd be surprised. TSA got real handsy with me once just because I was in a cast for my ankle. Whole ordeal was 1 hour for literally nothing. I think it was leaving the USA too, so it was 2x the retardation. Sometimes it's random.
>>539736566>The Bill of Rights only applies to AmericansLOL
>>539739704>like with a cloth or something?
>>539738509>listening to audiobooksI don't get the charm; I read faster than people speak
>>539740182If they had been tracking this individual online then they should have ended dirt on him with or without evidence.
>>539740440*Enough of
>>539736592Oh you poor little retarded shitskin.
>>539738427They haven't even paid tax before. It is literally a NEET.
>>539738376Are you actually that fucking stupid?
>>539739132There's more intelligent ways to hide all of that stuff that would be more in line the expected iq of the person who would have such materials.
>>539740260With me it's always a man. Heaven forbid a female TSA agent feel me up.
>>539736566C'mon, like they can't recover that wiped data. It's still there residually.
>>539739219>Wrongspeak in a public place is "up to no good".No, criticizing a tyrannical government is morally obligatory.
>>539740564Kek dunce faggot folding his girly arms and responding scornfully.
SCOTUS ruled that the US constitution applies fully even to illegal aliens when they ruled that the 14th amendment applies to illegal spic babies.Therefore the US constitution protects everyone from unreasonable search and seizure, even at the border.
>>539736583>>539736590>Which law establishes that American citizens don't have their rights at the border?>evidence of what faggot?You lost tranny
>>539737960>>539739619>subhuman never heard of duress
>>539736566ha! good
>>539737317If you find yourself in a situation where this is your option you’ve already lost. Carry a gun and avoid this situation entirely. You think a criminal is just going to say “aw shucks he activated the GrapheneOS duress mode! Touché!” No he’s going to not understand and think you’re lying and beat you to death.
>>539736566what part of "all free men" slipped off that smooth brain of yours?
