>>539755463he's probably right.but i think its more like 50 years away and not 5.
WE WILL ALL HAVE SAINTS ROW 3
>>539755463What will matter in 2036 is FORCE
>>539755463(squeezing my money even tighter)
>>539755463Elon is built for bbc
>>539755494I don't think it will take that long. Crash it this decade and peg the digital shekels to energy production. Energy currency was his grandfathers drram for a technocratic society. Also large part why they made the energy market as speculative as memestonks
>>539755545What do you predict?
>>539755569>mutt's law
>>539755463billionaires only say this shit to generate investment hype
>>539755463Money is irrelevant if you're already filthy stinking rich.
Maybe not all money, but the US dollar is fucked bigly as its reserve status unwinds. Buy precious metals.
>>539755685You didn’t say I was wrong
>>539755463That's what USA government will say to every creditor it has
>>539755463So 2036 now. In 2036 it will be 2046.
>>539755713If labor costs go to zero then goods and services become free.>but it takes money to make the labor cost go to zero.Yes. But, eventually the entire manufacturing cycle of a product will be autonomous. Input ideas, output designs, select design, supply chain allocates resources, resources shaped into product, product delivered. Think about how the current LLM works at the moment. You prompt the model for an output. If the prompt is very complex the model requires more time. If the prompt is simple the model reacts almost instantaneously. You want a pair of scissors? Okay, those are easy to design and the materials are readily available, date of delivery maybe a day. You want a motorcycle? Those are pretty complex. Lots of different materials. Date of delivery maybe 6 months.
>>539755463All rich people care about is money. Pretty much every politician ends up becoming a multi millionaire because they're all doing it for the money and lying and taking bribes to make more money for themselves. If be really surprised if anything changes ever. Maybe when post scarcity happens, if it's even technologically possible which it probably isn't
>"Guys, money is overrated"- the first trillionaireI guess he's right because he couldn't save his own son from becoming a tranny and now he's seething and screaming at the clouds
>>539755970>If labor costs go to zero then goods and services become free.LMFAO this retardLabor costs going to zero means unprecendented opportunities to profit... theoretically.It's the last hope of our oligarchs to try and make some money off this thing.
>>539755463Elon speaks in reverse. Money will mean more in the future.
>>539756075Profit for what though, thats the point
>>539756075The niggers will burn it down if they dont supplement the labor force.
>>539755463You could've had UBI yesterday
>>539755519>>539755463*goyim excepted
>>539755463
>>539755463Abolishing money worked out so well before
>>539755519Maybe people won't have to worry about paying for necessities in the future but what about rarer items. Like for a piece of art there may only be one of them in the world so who gets to have it if there's no money?
>>539755463Elon Musk should donate all his money to cuddle to advance his right wing agenda.
>>539755519AI in the most optimistic sci-fi solve everything level of functioning will mean that nearly all people will be genocided and only the elite class will remain. They will have penthouses, but if you're reading this you're not one of them.
>>539756274Anyone, sufficiently advanced technology should allow it to be replicated trivially
>>539756559For something like art though I would think people wouldn't accept a clone as being of equal value because the artist didn't create the clone. Like how people don't value things created with AI as highly as by a human.
>>539756388dey hekin E L I T E S !!!!
>>539756689Naturally everyone's concept of value is going to have to change in a post-scarcity world
Scottish Government have set 2036 as the date the Social Contract will be updated and UBI will be provided for all Scots
>>539755811Yep. He used to claim by 2030 this would happen. The richest man in the world claiming money won't matter is comical. The only reason he matters is because of money.
>>539757011Scottish Government have written the manifesto for 2036 UBI implementation
>>539755463Indeed, you'll be part of the 99% permanent underclass and you're savings won't save you from it.
>>539755632>Energy currencySomething like this just makes alot of sense, but not when the "currency" is slop tokens
>>539756976I'm a nignog, can I go to Scotland and get gibs?i promise to mind my biz
>>539757011He doesn't have a trillion dollars though. His stonks are valued at that. In practice is Tesla worth more than Ford + GM combined? Doubt it. But that's what makes his value the way it is. Some Rothschild or a Rockefeller has a painting in their toilet worth as much as Musk is.
>>539756274>what about rarer itemsThat's the catch. Luxury becomes even more sought after and bazillionaires get all the control. He's portraying it as if 50 million people will live in new york penthouses. Bitch there's no space. It's a capitalist welfare state endgame, give the plebs bread and circuses and rule the world.
>>539755640The eternal question is "how much power can one acquire by playing by the rules?"This dictates how long and how far a specific system will stretch before, ultimately, it is overthrown by those who excel within that system but who wish to have power over their peers within it. Revolution is never spontaneous or truly populist. The idiot masses are incapable of rising up. It's always born from this idea.
>>539757147Yes you can my dear
>>539755463>money will be irrelevant for you goyim, all of it will belong to me in 10 yearshe forgot to add "and you WILL be happy"
>>539755463Buy BTC
>>539757521Btc will get rekt by leftist devs.
>>539755463Elon is trying to hard to save western society, but it's just not going to work.
>>539755463Will I still be able to use paper money for... activities?
>>539757895i don't want elon to save the west, i want elon to bring forth the techpocalypse
>>539755463Im glad i am of noble descent
>>539755463He's right. You should buy gold and ammo for your AR-15. You do have an AR-15, right anon?
>>539755463yes yes, pod, bugs, VR headset that makes whatever we have today look shamefully weak BORING
>>539757521Not pumping your deflating bags, enjoy the ride down tho.Strategy hoarding them was your signal to get the fuck out.
>>539755463Mars by 2018?
>>539757521>useful idiotgood goy
>>539755463then why is he trying to make as much as possible? shouldn't he be having joker parades if that's the case AND he really believes it?
>>539755463UBI and everything else, all sounds good on paper, but it comes down to who is running it. No of them have good intentions
>>539758427He's not directly trying to make trillions. What he's doing is artificially creating companies with stock "values" so high that passive funds are forced to buy into them. THEN no matter how shitty and unprofitable they are, the taxpayers will be forced to prop him up to keep pensions, insurance companies and other large scale investors from crashing. Same shit with talks about the AI giants (including Elon) giving a % of their stock to the US government.
>>539758427Money is a medium to facilitate a system of trade. Musk's value is hypothetical value. The rich don't actually have a Scrooge McDuck money bin you can just empty out to pay for all of society's woes. They have a value based on assets, endeavors, and market speculation.
I believe his statement completely. Unfortunately, it is money now that gives power. In the absence of money it will be the barrel of a gun that gives power.
>>539758522Lol, seems like a good idea, abusing the stock based pension funds
>>539758539Thus the value of a company that destroys several billion dollars a year in a burn-pit is NATURALLY worth a few trillion dollars.I mean one day it will be "worth" 30% of the economy, and not a failure like his declining auto business, his tunneling company, his solar panel company, his "Mars by 2018" company....
>>539758539you are saying he doesn't literally have assets and at least ONE vault filled with various currencies and precious metals? the RICHEST man on the planet? are you fucking retarded? as someone who knows some very, very rich people. yes. yes they do.>>539758522sure, corporate welfare, outsourcing your buyer, becoming "muh 2 big 2 fail", black budget gov't contracts (as if musk isn't getting paid to do shit for nasa/military that we aren't being told) but that's still indicative of a man trying to make as much MONEY as possible, not a man who thinks money will be worthless in 10 years.
>>539758657He has an enormous pot of stocks. Which he borrows against to fund his lifestyle. So he has however much cash the banks lend him against his equity positions. But no, he doesn't have a huge vault of cash, that would be stupid for tax purposes.
>>539758726>he doesn't have a large vault of cash you are retarded. these people do, in fact, have reserves of basically every currency in the world. i don't think you understand how much money people like this actually have, and yes i mean actual money. >that would be stupid for muh tax purposesdon't you know only the little people pay taxes? lmao.
>>539758539So he has no value except the fake and gay number?
>>539755463thats just his cope for his fag mobil company losing half its value in just 2 weeks
>>539755519that sounds alot what trump said about the golden age. i think i will pass>>539755545
>>539755463Why's he desperately hoarding it then?
>>539758884no, he has a portion of that value. and since this dumbass doesn't realize how big numbers are, he doesn't that portion is still virtually unlimited, he could literally have millions in cash/gold/other physical assets/currencies just laying around. i know plenty of people who have this. you think the RICHEST man on earth doesn't?lollmao even. your average boomer can go buy a $500k property with a briefcase full of cash, yet the RICHEST MAN ON EARTH doesn't have a scrooge mcduck pile of money? only drug dealers do that? 1% of his "wealth" in liquid is an absolute fuckton of money. he has that, at least.
>>539755463he's making a dark joke, money will be irrelevant because society will have collapsed and he will be safely in his underground bunker with all the amenities that he purchased when money was still relevant.
>>539755463They mean for the lower castes.All the superwealthy will just be a protected class as they are, stealing intelligence and real talent so they can pretend they are important.I hope AI kills us all.
>>539755519right because productivity per worker has risen by leaps and bounds over the last 50 years and wages have definitely kept up, right? i mean the average boomer used to produce 1/20th of what an entry level employee produces now, due mainly to technological advances, and surely they make more money and are capable of purchasing literally anything they want, right? .....right? there's no way mega corporations literally purposefully waste materials, money, and contracts just to keep things like supply/demand curves artificially manipulated, right?
>>539755519>>539755463>everyone will be rich!!>everyone will drive a supercar and have a mansion!if you seriously believe this you basically deserve everything thats going your wayI don't understand why Musk is saying this, he's probably doing another hype spin of his because that's basically his job.
>>539758634Yeah, but at least he's doing shit. Rockets explode and shit costs money, and at least half of his bullshit is actually a front for the CIA and NSA. Just like Howard Hughes.
>>539759141Of course not, silly you, trust the jews with your financial healthThe jews want the best for you
>>539755463He is not "wrong", but the monetary value will move to something else. We will never leave currency. It will just move to something else.
>>539755463>>539755519How does being rich cause one to be even more retarded than a communist?
>>539759183>don't understand why Musk is saying this,because he is part of the great reset.
>>539759009He's not hoarding cash, as this other retard suggests, he's not a James Bond villain. He owns the vast majority of stock in certain companies, and his new one he got to basically declare "it's worth X a share", and people bought a % of it at that price, and thus magically he's a trillionaire.He tries to have as little actual income as possible, because that's a tax trap. He, like most billionaires, lives off of borrowing against his equities, which is totally tax-free. He can then borrow again to pay those borrowings, never paying tax until he dies, then it flips tax free through Jewish tricks to his inheritors.There are even stock vehicles now that allow him to diversify into other stock positions by trading shares of SpaceX for other stocks, all without paying a cent in taxes.
>>539755519>GUYS! every one can live on the top floor!
>>539759333Like a true communist!
>>539759234>Yeah, but at least he's doing shit.Destroying taxpayer and investor money isn't exactly a service to humanity.
>>539759257>How does being rich cause one to be even more retarded than a communist?Shouldn't be hard to figure out anon, the rich live in a separate world than the 99%. He never has to worry about his bills, can hire the best security on the planet, can get the best healthcare if he becomes extremely ill, etc. His disconnect to most people due to his uber wealthy world he lives helps fester such delusions.
>>539758726https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIAqVEo_9aAthis is a video of Marcel Ozuna, a baseball player's, arrest for DUI a few years back. he had over $9,000 *in his front pocket*. you have no idea how much money, yes ACTUAL MONEY, rich people keep on them and in things like safes/vaults. the assumption no one does this because YOU don't do this is fucking hilarious. you have no idea how much they spend in a day, a week, a month. the idea they don't have liquid cash is fucking hilarious. >inb4 "oh that's just a DUMB millionaire, not a SMART one like elon"
>>539759319>spends more CASH in a month that you will ever make>isn't hoarding cash lollmao evenbro he has CASH in other nations that he will likely never even visit. just because he can. you have no idea how rich people actually live.
>>539759394>his is a video of Marcel Ozuna, a baseball player's, arrest for DUI a few years back. he had over $9,000 *in his front pocket*.1. this nigger isn't fantastically wealthy2. you are completely retarded if you think tens of thousands of $$ are a dragon's hoard of money.I never said they lived without cash, but Elon Musk factually does not have $50 million dollars in his supervillain vault. Nor does he have ten grand in his trunk like some negro.
yep it's definitely going to happen - people are going to start treating each other with dignity and respect too. any day now.
>>539755463Literally makes his entire Elon fan base bag holders and then tells them money isn't important.Fuck I love this guy, literally my hero.Screwing over the vaccinated nigger cattle.
>>539756733kino
>>539755519Isn't this just communism?
>>539759506>has almost $10k in his literal pocket just for a random night out>assuming rich people don't do this basically every day, for life>assuming ultra wealthy people don't do more than thisare you really this fucking retarded? >he doesn't have a $50,000,000 in his supervillain vaultlollmao even elon himself said he has like .1% of his wealth in liquid cash. .1% of his "wealth" is over $800,000,000. you don't understand how big numbers are.
>>539755494I doubt they have the patience for 50 years.It'll be 3 years.
>>539757152IN their toilet? How does that work? Just to poop and pee on it?
>only two more 5-year plans until utopia
>>539755463I think Elon deserves the title of "former trillionaire." After all he tweeted it himself.
>>539757152>oh he doesn't actually have a trillion dollars>just around literally $800,000,000 liquidyou sound like this faggot >>539759506who doesn't understand how big even 1 billion actually is.
>>539757134Energy has more than one interpretation.Energy from burning wood logs in a generator, energy from a solar panel, energy from taking a shit and burning it...But there's also energy from labour.Labour-based currency would arguably be the most subtle and most important thing that Elyon there can do.It's how Germany became debt-free and economically superior to France in just 2 years.
>>539757152>Rothschild>He doesn't knowThe Bogandoff twins are my spirit animals and they laugh at you. Rothschild? Literally who?
>>539755463Cool let me get a million dollars Elon
>>539760164>RothschildThey were enobled by aristocracy for their effort in Napoleonic Jacobin wars. And nobles do not have to disclose their wealth. There are plenty of people way above Musk regarding wealth
>>539759894>has almost $10k in his literal pocket just for a random night outThis is niggardry. Niggers do this to impress other niggers with their softball sized roll of 100's. Actual wealthy white people don't do this. Travis Kelce does not walk around with $10 grand in cash on him.
>>539760525>elon musk>the world's richest african>does a fuckton of drugs>has literal sex dungeons>shot a car into space just to do it>would NEVER have .1% of his wealth in cash, even tho he literally says he does>no WAY that would be over $800,000,000>no WAY i can't comprehend how rich he actually he isbro Travis Kelce is dropping over $10k per dinner, ESPECIALLY now that he's married to Taylor Swift. yes, yes he does. these people treat sums of cash like toilet paper. they have enough. more than enough. are you REALLY this retarded? >I don't live this way>there's no WAY insanely rich people could live this way
>>539755463Elon musk is a shill for the homo deepstate. The homos want to reassure people that life will be good even as they are waging a brutal war to force slavs to be gay
>>539755463you're retarded if you trust anything that retard says
>>539760870to be fair, several of those are actually somewhat already true. not that i'm a fan of elon, but unironically you can self drive across country, get a robo taxi, you can buy a household robot, most legacy auto has/will go bankrupt
>>539760685>bro Travis Kelce is dropping over $10k per dinnerAnd you are retarded enough to believe he pays for dinner with a stack out of his duffel bag of cash....
>>539759872sounds closer to Mormonism to me
>>539761094>duffel bag>you can fit $10k in a pocketare you seriously this retarded? just say you have never spent any time with insanely rich people and gtfo out of this thread.
>>539760994>im not a fan of elon but heres me defending his outlandish statements
>>539761214his job is making outlandish statements and again, several of those things are true, regardless of elon.
>>539761194I had the opportunity to spend some time with a famous mainstream metal band in Helsinki. They were invited to and paid to eat at a certain restraunt.
>>539755494yeah, elon years. 1 elon year = 10 normal years. so when he promsies things to be ready ini 1-2 years he means 10-20 years.
>>539755545Saved pic. Excellent
>>539755463>stop saving moneyIf you haven't noticed, you cannot outsave inflation.They steal your wealth, and make your money obsolete.
>>539760685carrying cash is for niggers with gang affiliations, rich people carry an AMEX or black card
>>539763780Soon all you need is your phone and twitter
>>539755463Stop replying to >1pbtid threads
>>539755494More like 3-6 months.
>>539755463>Money won't matter in the near future. You might as well give it all to me. Buy my stocks, please.
>>539755993Post scarcity is feasible if there are less humans
>>539755463Sorry. I'm with the cutie pie on this one.
>>539755463>finally save up decent nest-egg to build a life>"whoops, we had to reset the currency! sorry, those dollars are no longer valid, please sign up for the new digital currency if you want to eat"
Why do people believe this spiritually Hindu scammer?
>>539755463That's cool he can just give me all of his right now then.
>>539755463good to know. so emlon won-t mind if i visit his vault then?
>>539755463Well this shit needs to hurry up. I aint getting any younger
>>539755463he didn't mention the part where 3 quarters of the planet's population are gone
>>539766075>Africa>India>Mainland ChinaDelete those but also the entire Middle East and you're finally getting somewhere good.
>>539755463He could but right but if true, he's not saying the scary parts, such as without money what exactly devides and enforces the hierarchy of status? If you arent in the .01% elite class by the time workers are outclassed by machines and we are all put on ubi, assuming that is the future he's alluding to, you aint getting in ever; you aint moving up at ALL ever. The rulers and the ruled will be locked in forever and thosenstatuses will be protected and enforced by some skynet style policing system that will get stricter and stricter. They will change the rules over time as well until we are basically slaves or they effectively depopulate us because we will be nothing but in the way. I think it likely many of them move toward starting their own civilizations from scratch based on their ideals and taught to worship them like gods. Like Un in North Korea but more effective with brain chips and shit. Full control of the human element, though the desire to preserve free-will to an extent because why keep humans around at all opposed to machines if not for the novelty of humanity.
>>539755463>2036So 9 more years of inflation before they've made life so difficult that people will be desperate to take the Mark. Got it.But since OP is a 1pbtid memeflaggot posting ragebait, no bump.
UBI was always the key to the promised land
>>539755463>retard says he will do THING!>never does THING>time passes and people forgetrinse and repeat.remember when the retard said he'd make a 3rd party in the US?
>>539755463Yes, inflation will destroy the value of american currency to the point where it becomes worthless. Invest is anything that will hold value instead, precious metals, stocks, bomb shelters, etc
>>539755463This is stupid engagement bait.World's richest man says money doesnt matter.
>>539768039when the population is lower everyone has more, including nature.
>>539768039Based and saved.
>>539755519that's bs. quality of life inflation means women will still look for richer people. today a western middle class lives better than a king 500 years ago. he has access to clean water, hot water whenever he wants, medicine, electricity, toilets, etc.
In a way, hes right. He has a trillion dollars but he still feels like an idiot.
Musk is a fictional character. Why did he get so many government contracts? Because he is part of it. Why can he pump assets on Twitter that his friends will have bought before, and others would get into trouble for that behavior? It's because he's the government. This also means that his billions aren't his.
>>539757225Retarded slav. He's talking about virtual reality you idiot.
Why does Musk have a pro free speech image, when his Twitter has been doing the opposite, shadow banning and deboosting, from the moment on he took over? It's because he is a fictional character. Why did he pretend to manage multiple large corporations, to be a pro gamer and still have enough time to shitpost on Twitter? It's because he is a fictional character. Why was he mentioned in a Star Trek series https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Elon_Musk ?It's because he is a fictional character.
>>539755519LMAO, WHAT HE MEANT IS THAT THERE WILL ONLY BE 500MIL HUMANS LEFT ,AND THEY WILL ALL HAVE A PENTHOUSE
>>539755463Didn't this guy also say we would be living on Mars by 2025?
>>539755463hes only partly right. money will stay but income will become inaccessible to normal citizens. they will have free housing and food but no luxuries, those need to be bought with money they dont have and will never have. they will have free internet to give them a glimpse of what luxurious life is. they will experience luxuries through virtual reality while epstein class buys 5 year old pussy on meat market and spends the afternoon gangraping it.
>>539769771yup, weve only got a few more years to suck up to schlomo to convince him to let us liveyouve been warned
>>539755463>>539755519What a moron. Reminds me of that creator of the 9/11 Zeitgeist movie where in part 3 or Zeitgeist 2 it was this schizo communism advert where he claimed automating and roboticizing everything would lead to this Star Trek TNG-like paradise where no one had to work and we'd all live in mansions.
>>539755494dude 4+6 is 10.
>>539755519>just buy yourself some of my robots they just cost 500k each.>OHHHh you cant buy my robots wellwe will be fuvked over as usual, fuck all of this.poor people wont get a fuking robot.
if you just had these 500.000 for my robot that build you the penthouse, but youre so lazy and youre not working hard enough BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA
>>539755463Lol ok, give back all the money you stole from my government then
>>539769323>Why did he get so many government contracts?His companies deliver the product.SpaceX is currently one of only two rides into space that America has, the other is Orion.Starliner is out for maintenance, probably for good.
>>539772139rockets to nowhere dont do shit. he wasted all this money for nothing. he will stall until hes dead and he wont get to mars.
>>539772139instead of trying to clean up the planet we have, these fuking spaced out billionaires try to get to the next planet that they can RUIN.
>>539772568perhaps they know something we don't?
off course it totally suvks that cleaning up the planet yields no profits, only destroying it. thats tough luck now is it not.
>>539772654off course they do, all these chemicals and heavy metals have a purpos. i know the purpos and they know it.
