You may have seen in British or Irish news that a woman has been arrested for smuggling an IRA bomb into Northern Ireland.You may be wondering what's the deal with the "New IRA", and if it's all kicking off again. ITT, I will explain.
>is it all kicking off again?No.>but paramilitariesThere are many paramilitary groups in Northern Ireland. None of them are what you think, and this post will be your QRD. So basically>"Irish Republican"the guys who want to create an all-island independent Irish Republic. Typically left-wing.>"Ulster Loyalists"the guys who want to keep Northern Ireland in the UK. Typically right-wing.When it comes to Irish Republican paramilitaries, there are basically two types>"No, WE'RE the IRA"Groups that believe themselves to be successors to the IRA that fought during the Troubles. During the Troubles there were two groups claiming this, so it's messy. >OthersGroups that either don't claim links to older IRA groups or those that do their own thing; typically even further left-wing. When it comes to Loyalist paramilitaries, there are likewise two types:>LCC ApprovedThe LCC (Loyalist Communities Council) is a group that represents paramilitaries in meetings with political leaders. They represent the UVF, UDA, etc. These guys are mostly concerned with retaining their money and influence; they will not risk themselves, ever.>Wayward factionsLoyalist paramilitaries are not as close-knit as Republican ones, so younger or more poorly behaved local leaders will often act on initiative and spark trouble even if the leadership disagrees. The recent race riots in Belfast are an example of this.>but I thought all this stopped with the Good Friday AgreementThe GFA brought a general end to the violence, yes-but its main aim was very specifically getting Sinn Féin and the Provisional IRA (biggest threats) to the table. Other Irish Republican groups who didn't support it just ignored it. Loyalist groups never faced them same pressure and were getting so rich off the drug trade that they didn't really care what happened from that point on.
>Who are the New IRA?IN 1997, the Provisional IRA-the main "IRA" you hear people talking about during the Troubles-declared a ceasefire. They held an Army Convention (held to decide any major moves by the IRA) at which several people-including the Quartermaster General-denounced the leadership and called for the ceasefire to end.This was a divide between those who believed that they should give the "peace-process" a chance and start taking part in Northern Irish politics and those who believed that doing so was a waste of time. A majority of the convention backed the ceasefire, and those who disagreed resigned from the IRA executive. They created a new organisation, known as the "Real IRA" and would continue carrying out attacks against Police and British Security Forces. These are the guys who are behind the infamous Omagh Bombing in 1998, which the Provisional IRA condemned-carrying out acts of intimidation against members of the Real IRA to dissuade them from further attacks. The outrage caused by this bombing lead to a small break in activity until 2000 when they started back up again. In 2012, another group called "Republican Action against Drugs" (RAAD) were carrying out vigilante attacks against known Drug Dealers in Derry and Donegal. These guys met with the Real IRA and declared a merger; these two groups (RAAD+RIRA) and a few other fringe Republican groups were merging to found the New IRA. At the time of their founding, they had a few hundred members. In short; the "New IRA" is a merger of a bunch of different Irish Republican groups.>LARPers?No, out of all the paramilitary groups these guys put their money where their mouth is more than anyone. They have been carrying out attacks with both guns and bombs since their founding, and the recent story in OP is attributed to them.
>Their aims?For that we go to Saoradh, their political wing. The tl;dr is that they are (typically) a far left group calling for an independent socialist Ireland which is free of both British and European Union interference. They oppose Sinn Féin, formerly the political wing of the Provisional IRA, and accuse them of being populist stooges. For example, they have called for calm engagement with anti-immigrant protestors and believe Sinn Féin's "they're all racist" approach to be bad.>so are they heckin based ethno-nationalistsNo. The IRA has never been that, not even back in the 1920s. Irish Nationalism is-and always has been-primarily a left wing affair. Most right-wing politics in Ireland remains either mostly online or just American-tier attention seeking.>so who do I supportWhichever will get you more (you)s in the thread you're in, of course.
Appreciate the effort posts, good read, but all i'm left with is the notion that Ireland is even more of a clusterfuck than I thought.
>>539761309Course it is, anon. For all the bluster you'll see online;>same two parties that have governed Ireland for a century still polling at the top>same parties been in charge of NI for a decade the sameOnly difference is that the fringe extremists in Ireland have guns I guess
It's just amusing to me that the organization that spent all those decades assassinating people and blowing shit up with car bombs with all their BRITS OUT rhetoric advocates for their own countrymen to be replaced by people who are even more intolerant and anti-catholic than the brits were.
>>539761439Northern Ireland does not control its immigration policy, England does that. Neither Sinn Féin nor the IRA have ever been in power in Ireland.>anti-catholicneither the irish revolution nor troubles had much to do with religion lad. Catholic Church hates the IRA just as much as anyone
>>539761015BollocksNot a single link to substantiate any of this ... . Go play with your wee cock. You massively exhibit & project small cock energy wanker.
Man imagine when Ireland becomes majority muslimFuckers will be coming out of the womb with bomb vests strapped to them
>>539761541here ya gohttps://www.belfastlive.co.uk/news/bail-approved-law-student-charged-34364943>>539761552>muslimAround 1.6% as of 2022, numbering approx 81,000. I believe it sits at around 85-87% white, compared to the roughly 60% over there.
>>539761665Meh, give it 10-20 yearsMuhammad will be the most common baby boy name by 2040
tldr: irish republicans love sandniggers british loyalists love israelboth sides communities are raped by migrants and migrant businesses everywhere and are easy to get in a argument loop with because they're both retarded. anything else you hear is wishful thinking from a foreigner larping as either side or a sanitised extremist midwit>>539761121>Most right-wing politics in Ireland remains either mostly online or just American-tier attention seeking.this is true
The mudslimes are not Scottish or British enough for the potato lads to care
It’s the ICA now the IRA is dead might do you good to actually listen to the people who are saying it
>>539761819>Muhammad pretty common when it's almost always the first name of these kids, even when they don't actually go by that name.The top 5 names for boys in Ireland are>Rían>Jack>Noah>James>Oisín>>539761844>irish republicans love sandniggers In fairness this is because of historic arms deals and material support during fights in the past. Loyalists love Israel because its the opposite of what taigs do.Israel never really did anything for Loyalists before, only in the past couple years did they start buying their politicians en masse.
>>539761088>>539761039>>539761015What happeend to irish nobility
>>539761844Checked, and do you have anyone that is full national socialist, shitskins out, TKD?
>>539761943>it's the ICA nowNo, it isn't. If you got clickbaited by the LARPers on social media then you have boomer tier tech literacy. The ICA was the first red army in Europe, the thing you're referring to is a twitter account that uses AI pictures to play dressup as the IRA.>>539762005>pre Protestant reformationMostly squabbled over land and claim to the High Kingship. >post Protestant reformationAppealed to the Stuart Kings of England to end Catholic persecution in return for Loyalty.>post Cromwellno longer exists. British or Anglo-Irish now.>1790sSome of them became Irish Nationalists and stayed that way. Most didn't.>post-revolutionGone.
>>539761504Go fuck yourself I've seen the LGBTQ and refugee posters
>>539762149Yeah that'll be Sinn Féin, who support current thing for the youth vote. They have never been in power in the Republic of Ireland, ever. They share power in Northern Ireland, but have no control over immigration as they refuse to take their seats in Westminster because they refuse to swear an oath to British monarchs.>>539762069There are maybe some who claim to be this, but they don't actually exist. The closest thing Ireland has to actual right-wing parties are;>National Party (kekked)0 people in the Dáil, 1 seat on Fingal County Council.You will find some others on social media, suspiciously often active during peak east coast US posting hours.
>>539762099Then who is burning belfast?
>>539762218All the same shit to me mate fuck the IRA
>>539762286The recent riots were in mostly Loyalist areas, in many cases spurred on by local Loyalist paramilitaries. The leadership at the time distanced themselves (don't want to miss out on the council money for "transitioning away from violence") but in reality everyone knew the score. Loyalist areas are very deprived and have been bought up by loads of "property developers" (keanos and their girlfriends getting into property ownership) and subsequently converted into HMOs for whoever.>>539762340The government parties of Ireland (Fianna Fáil, Fine Gael) both successfully suppressed the IRA. The IRA has been considered the enemy of the Irish Government since the 1920s.
>>539761015None of you are killing niggers or politicians so I dont care about you at all.
>>539762412I heard they are gonna have a suprise in store at the end of summer
>>539762069>Checked, and do you have anyone that is full national socialist, shitskins out, TKD?yeah i guesslook into clann éireann and the national party.the latter kicked out the leader justin barrett for his lack of optics. the rest are too irrelevant and tame to mention. >>539762574the irony of being american and saying this
I believe it's also important to say that the youth are much more radical and racial. Saw a story the other day where some loyalists shot a National Socialist because he was "creating tension" in the area. Even boomers in these paramilitaries are fucking losers. The zoomers under the same set of beliefs are doing all of the work, and you will see time and time again that old people only care about themselves. Even in somewhere as foreign as Palestine when babies are being shot by the IDF, these old idiots were attempting to stop the youth from doing as little as protesting.
>>539762574neither are you, anon.>>539762596every year they pull something. schools get out, sun comes out, we get a million billion threats of this and that. they've threatened "something big" every year for years. The big "HAPPENING" riots this year happened last year and the year before. They do fuck all in reality. It's more likely they're worried about the outcome of next year's election given their main political ally (DUP) has a big nonce scandal.>>539762695>The zoomers under the same set of beliefs are doing all of the workdunno lad seems to be like same as usual the young lads are getting lifted and there is no slowing or stoppage of the buying and selling of east belfast. I think realistically the second the peelers are actually worried they'll just do what they do with the larpers in lenadoon and knock enough heads together until people fuck up.
>>539762606>look into clann éireann and the national party.>the latter kicked out the leader justin barrett for his lack of optics. the rest are too irrelevant and tame to mention.Cheers.
>>539762695whoopsy daisy wrong image.
>>539762949I have noticed a lot of international attention on stuff in Belfast but I do worry that people aren't really clued into politics here to really make it matter.We can all talk about how radicalised the youth are, but doesn't really matter if the youth *vote* remains dominated by lefties on all sides.>Sinn Féinlefties>SDLPlefties>Alliancelefties>Greenlefties>universitiesoverwhelmingly lefty and pro-irishThe youth vote is absolutely dominated by lefties and no matter what retards like Sorcha Eastwood say, they are all getting fed to the united left wing ireland meat grinder. With the DUP circling the drain, it's really a matter of whether the UUP or TUV manages to replace them because one is also full of lefties. Don't think people realise that when they aren't scrolling slop on officialprotestantcoalition the youth of NI are being lost in droves
what are their relationship to the INLA? they basically copied the unionists and became drug gangs here in dublin
>>539761015It's all fake and gay, i have more respect for the average scumbag in your local council estate.I really hope these larpers get a wakeup call.
>>539763380No known link, INLA have always been their own thing and existed in a very different circle.Whereas the New IRA are linked to Saoradh, while the INLA's political wing is the Irish Republican Socialist Party (IRSP). The INLA's geneology is;>1969, IRA splits into Provisional IRA (Nationalist) vs Official IRA (Marxist)>Official IRA later declares ceasefire>INLA breaks away from Official IRA in protest and severs ties to the IRA, starting their own thing
>well you see little Timmy once upon a time long before your mom got her first BBCThe thread
>>539763619Following your indian heritage i see
Ironically given all the groups mentioned ITT, none are actually the "legitimate" successors to the IRA.That award goes to the Continuity IRA.>who?They're another split from the Provisional IRA, kind of like the "Real IRA" but sooner. These guys split away in the 1980s over opposition to the IRA's decision to support Sinn Féin ending abstentionism.Their legitimacy comes from Tom Maguire. Basically;>Irish Revolutionary period>IRA granted "authority" of revolutionary government in the 1930s to keep the movement alive>Tom Maguire is one of the last surviving members of this "2nd Dáil" IRA underground government>he grants the Provisional IRA legitimacy as successors to the original IRA from the 1920s>Continuity IRA breaks away>Tom Maguire instead grants THEM said legitimacy, denouncing the Provisional IRA>Provisional IRA tried to get this reversed but failedSo technically the Continuity IRA are the real guys, but don't really do anything.
>>539763594the INLA have always been garda informants and hitmen for drug dealers anyways. bwst to avoid them if you can but they're the ones who maily run guns in the south
>>539763680Last i checked baljeets were lifting whiteoid balls 24/7 thinking they were italian passing.Timothjeet
>>539763774Goddamn how many are there?Can't they come up with any other names than "X Irish Republican Army"?
>>539763786They were capable enough in their heydey but inevitably fell into the trap of>oh fuck guys we need money for our big revolution>hmmm where should we get money>I know!>oops, now our entire existence is bogged down in putting out fires from our decision to get into the drug gamebuncha tards honestly
why would freemasons do this?
>>539763864>They were capable enough in their heydeygerry maguire had more people killed than they did. the paras inevitably turned on their own communities to the point where in dublin during the 80-90s people prefared the gangsters
>>539763860>how many are thereFuck loads, but the only meaningful ones are "New IRA" and "Continuity IRA." >can't they come up with any other namesThe phrase "Irish Republican Army" is simply that important to those interested. The far-left groups (INLA for example) did breakway to do their own thing, but "IRA" is simply too iconic a phrase and symbol. Since they never really got into power in Ireland, it summons visions of a group that could have had done things properly if they ever managed to truly win. There's also the hope that eventually the schisms will mend and they'll become simply one group again; the "Provisional IRA" was called such because of the "Provisional Army Council" (aka, temporary transitionary leadership) that established it. Over time, the names just stick. Each of them considers themselves to just be "the IRA.">>539764057I've always seen the INLA as Costello+a handful of decent shots. Everything between his death and the assassination of Wright was damage control and squabbling with the stickies imo
IRA = leftwinged commiesirish people = BBC sucking fagsbritish people = BBC sucking fagsnothing ever happensi wished Hermann Göring would have nuked you jew lovers,bbc suckers and gypsie whites into the Atlanticcheers
Dr. Williams, I'm MI5.
>>539764115same
>>539764115>germanPretty sure bog dwelling retards came from Ireland to teach you fellas how to read and write back in the day. The best of Germany left for Angloland thousands of years ago
>>539764097i just wish someone would delcare war on the rebublic and start assassinating our civil service, in minecraft of course. fighting over partition while both states are subjugated is frustrating
This is an Irish new housing gathering. Notice anything?
>>539764292Sorry but they love niggers and browns. Bunch of useless wankers.
Irish school
>>539764292I have said this before but unironically my united ireland prediction:>Unionist parties instantly merge>get into bed with Fine Gael>Sinn Féin splits>Fianna Fáil and SDLP larp partnership re-established>1st united ireland government is lead by the Fine Gael-Unionist coalition, 2nd place is a contest for FF and SF>>539764414>irish>new housingnice try schlomo
Larping as Irish patriots and nationalists while they ignore a real invasion. No.
>>539764494>>539764444I never understood this sort of patter between Brits and Irish people. Same shit in both our countries, Ireland is just getting content about it now that England got in like 2006. We've all just been swapping browns for decades.
Queue for house viewing in Dublin
Outside a mosque in Dublin
>>539764563Maybe because they still have a stick up their ass about Britain but are turning a blind eye to their own ethnocide? Could be that.
>>539764692I don't see it coming much from Ireland toward Britain though. It's not like you or I are from some magical non-cucked part of these islands. Britain and Ireland both have so many identical problems, so an English lad saying>haha browns in Irelandmakes about as much sense as a Dub doing the same. Doesn't tell any Irish person anything they don't know but comes off as if the UK isn't permafucked on an even more brutal scale.
>>539764516thats actually disgusting. the right wing in the south are laying the groundwork for unionist collaberation. whos to say FG doest adopt this rightoid zio-american style of populism in the near futureits a stretch but its not impossible. what do you think would need to happen for this to become more than a schizo nightmare future? this cannot happen independantly of britian and the republic is already american bought and owned.a fucking consolidation of colonial holdings will be our nations reunification
>>539764787again these guys have never, ever, ever been in power in Ireland lad. They aren't doing anything that the two largest parties in the UK haven't done. It'd be one thing if we were a decade into a glorious restore hyperterm but we aren't. The most anti-BLM party in British politics with any actual seats in Westminster is lead by a black woman.
>>539762606>lack of opticskek thats true he did not give a fuck
>>539761121>>539761844Hasn't there been relatively recent efforts to preserve Irish language and culture? How do these groups square the invasion with their goal to keep Ireland Irish? Do they just want to be a curiosity with diminishing numbers in a zoo for browns? I would think such movements would be a natural starting point for nativist organization.>>539761665>Around 1.6% as of 2022That means it was >3% then and probably close to 5-7% now. They lie about the numbers to prevent panic (and thus action). Until recently, we had the same number of immigrants (not per capita, actual numbers) reported for a decade or more. Unbelievable, yet they kept saying so.
>>539764991my biggest criricism of them back in 2016 was their optics cucking. mad bastard took /pol/s criticism and improved, leaving those NO cucks in the dustif i ever see him again, im going to personally apologise
>>539764945>thats actually disgustingOh yeah for sure. Been at it for ages, both FF and FG have a soft-touch approach to Unionism because while they KNOW northern shinner voters will never vote for them, Unionists might vote *with* them against shinners.>what do you think would need to happen for this to become more than a schizo nightmare futureI think Irish unification is inevitable not due to the talent of Irish politics but due to incompetence of Unionist politics. Pro-Unity has the youth vote, a lot of NI politics has become about waiting for boomers to die off. You will soon start NOOTICing the fact that lots of America/EU figures who have never ever ever commented on Irish Unity are suddenly saying how beneficial it would be for business/trade/etc.>>539765074>Hasn't there been relatively recent efforts to preserve Irish language and cultureYes, mostly at a grassroots level. The typical graphs and maps you see showing it being totally dead are inaccurate, it's actually doing better than it has been in a long time due to local organising. General consensus is that the Government are incompetent tards who would happily let it die, grassroots groups keep it alive.>They lie about the numbers to prevent panic (and thus action). They don't really need to, since black/brown doesn't always mean Muslim. Ironically I think immigration might push for Irish unity because right now there's a permanent open unenforced border between the entire EU and the UK. Chances are the new immigration border for the UK is moved to Britain itself, not NI.
mayo for sam btw
>>539765183>since black/brown doesn't always mean MuslimAh, I thought we were talking wogs in general, didn't read closely enough.Wait, how would that border move work? Nons would be able to travel to Northern Ireland and be entitled to UK gibs, but not have to go through UK border control? How are the Republic gibs? Could it mean a mass exodus from the Republic to Northern Ireland?
>>539765499>Wait, how would that border move work?Right now, the border between Ireland and Northern Ireland is not policed. No checks, no barriers, nothing. It is a jagged and retarded line on the map that cuts across fields, towns, even some people's houses.During BREXIT, lots of people in NI voted "no" because they knew the border was going to cause problems; if the UK leaves the EU, there is now a land border with the EU with ZERO controls on it. There aren't meaningful controls between NI and the UK, because Unionists oppose this. To put this in perspective;>people in the EU with free movement can all get to Ireland>they can all then enter the UK if they just hop over the border to NI>likewise, anyone who travels to the UK can just get into the EU via this borderBut you can't "harden" it because everyone generally opposes this. When this caused issue with trade (EU goods in NI, etc) the decision was made to do the following>okay Unionists, Northern Ireland is DEFINITELY STILL IN THE UK>but, uh, we're going to put a little customs border in the Irish Sea>so now NI is basically part of the EU Single Market but also part of the UKSo now Unionists are saying we need to harden the border because immigrants. In reality, the UK will just make it harder to go from NI->Britain and leave the Irish border as is.>Could it mean a mass exodus from the Republic to Northern Ireland?probably not, but it does mean NI will continue to drift away from Britain in favour of Ireland/the EU.
>>539764964Sinn Fein are the second largest party in Ireland. STFU
>>539765726>2nd largest party in IrelandWho have never, ever, ever been in government in Ireland. They have never even been part of a coalition in Government.Are Reform to blame for the UK's last several decades of problems because they're top of the polls, you retard?
>>539761121>No. The IRA has never been that, not even back in the 1920s. Irish Nationalism is-and always has been-primarily a left wing affair. Most right-wing politics in Ireland remains either mostly online or just American-tier attention seeking.That's not accurateIrish republicanism was largely nationalist. Marxists were always but one part, but a minority. The vast majority was traditionalist nationalists. Nationalism was the unifying force of Republicanism right up until the marxist takeover. They climbed the ranks and subverted the whole movement starting from the boarder campaigns. From there on, all the underlyings of the IRA were typically Nationalist and traditionalist while the higher ranks were marxist-leninist. So there was a major ideological split over that also. The CIRA are what is left of this Nationalist stripeMany nationalists had socialist ideas. Even ranging from non-marxist socialism like Distributionism, or just merely seen it as a tool to gain back national assets from the british
>DOOOOD DAH IRRAA!!>DOOOD DOOO DAH IRA IS BACK!>GUISE GUISE LOOK LOOK THE IRAA!!!>OMGGG!!! DAH IRA SO BASED THEY WILL KILL INVADER SHITSKINS!!!fuck the ira,fuck the Irish,the loyalists are the ones burning nigger houses and stabbing paki rapiststhe fien shart faggots open their asses for refugees
this thread glows so much its hurting my eyes
>>539765922Nationalist doesn't always mean right-wing, anon. Irish Nationalism began in two veins, constitutional and revolutionary.The former;>self-governance, land reform, democracyThe latter:>independence, land reform, democracyThe "marxist" bit of it only really came into mainline Republicanism after the civil war but the 1st Dáil was a remarkably "left-wing" body, just as the proclamation was a very "left-wing" document. To say Irish Nationalism has always been left wing isn't to say it's always been Marxist, just that the core issues have always been things that we would now consider more left than right. For example prior to the Sinn Féin split in the 1980s the Provisional IRA as the "traditional" faction were still pushing for some far-left economics with farming communes and so on.The CIRA's political wing are extremely left wing.
>>539765931Hello Americlap, you'll notice that this was covered 4 posts in; >>539761121Mind you, I don't think anyone in Ireland will be taking lectures from a country where private gun ownership is so normal and legal and widespread with a population somehow more docile and passive than southern England.
>>539763860>Goddamn how many are there?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WboggjN_G-4
>>539761015Who are the entho-nationalists who want a united, white, Ireland?
>>539766286There aren't any. There are some on twitter who do engagement bait because it's how they make money, that's about it.
>>539764115still salty?
>>539766318That's quite sad.
>>539766202>give my opinion>a snarky faggot angloid comes in "uh AKSTHUALLY ! also the USA!if a nigger breaks into my home I kill himif I get a knoife pulled out can toocan you ?>NOOOO YOU GOTTA KILL COPS AND DO THE TERRORISM OR I'M NOT SATISFIED!!
>>539766286>Who are the entho-nationalists who want a united, white, Ireland?I've only spent an hour researching the topic so i'm by no means an expert, but as mentioned here...>>539762606..Clann Eireann and Justin Barrett seem pretty on point.
>>539766458If you want to understand Irish politics, imagine that in the early 2000s a 3rd big left wing party had started gaining ground in the USA. Imagine that party looked like it might win.Then imagine the Democrats and Republicans decide to go into some sort of unholy coalition together; nothing ever gets done, everyone hates each other, but now NOBODY else can ever get into power. That's Ireland; Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were once two opposite sides in a literal civil war-now they rule every single government together to make sure at least one of them stays in charge.Every election its:>ONLY Fine Gael can save Ireland, trust us to fix the problems. Fianna Fáil are crooks.>Fine Gael are crooks, you MUST vote Fianna Fáil-only we can save Ireland>election happens>"Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael have formed a coalition government."There can be no radical change in Ireland because there is no change in Ireland.
>>539766587>if a nigger breaks into my home I kill himyou'd do fuck all, LARPer.
There are more heavily armed migrant boats than the IRA, so it's all nothing.
>>539766601>That's Ireland; Fianna Fáil and Fine Gael were once two opposite sides in a literal civil war-now they rule every single government together to make sure at least one of them stays in charge.Sounds like what happens in literally every fake and gay jewish democracy when something begins to pierce the veil and undermines the illusion of choice.
>>539766631>you'd do fuck all, LARPer.I know what you'll do: lie down and die,watching your family members get gang raped by 4'5 pakis
>>539761015Are you guys faggot commies this time too? Or are you nationalist now.If you support paliniggers and other muslims you can go fuck right off.Irish are the niggers of white peoole.
>>539766740It's basically that except even more egregious. I remember some African warlord in like the 90s made fun of Ireland by saying>most of these liberal democracies have two parties>ireland has only one!or something to that affect.What's even more retarded is Ireland has Proportional Representation so it's not like they're voting out of fear of someone else. Just mindless cattle.>>539766767Less likely to happen to any of us in Ireland or Britain than it is to happen to you, anon. Like I said, all those guns and yet your nation is full of probably the only english speaking people I'd call more pathetic and domesticated than my own/my english neighbours.As I said; you'll do fuck all.
>>539761121>so are they heckin based ethno-nationalists>No. The IRA has never been thatI propose a new group then: "Na Gael". Irish ethno nationalism to preserve the ethnic natives of Ireland from extinction.
>>539766862blah blah blah didn't read faggot 250k+ not one finger lifted
>>539761039>>"No, WE'RE the IRA"I thought they pretended to be successors to the OG IRA fighting the independence war.
>>539761121Seems really the only thing in this case that defines whetger they are "far left" as in marxist commie faggots or "far right" as in natsoc heckin evil nazis is their stance on race and immigration. What is their stance on that?
>>539766922Until said group gets their hands on some guns they will be indistinguishable to the other hundred odd groups to call themselves that.>>539766937>argies>white crusadersKEKKED>>539766938Republican legitimacy is a weird thing. General QRD is:>1st Dáil ÉireannInitial revolutionary government of Ireland.>2nd Dáil ÉireannThe ceasefire successor to it, which narrowly voted to dissolve the Republic and replace it with the Irish Free State (later, Republic of Ireland).Those who opposed this rejected this vote; the "2nd Dáil" became an unofficial underground body of those who supported the Republic. In the 1930s, the IRA Army Council were granted authority by said group to carry on as leaders of the 2nd Dáíl-so now to Republicans, the Army Council is the leadership.When the IRA split in 1969 a representative of the 2nd Dáil (surviving veteran of the revolution, Tom Maguire) granted legitimacy to the Provisional IRA. He later transferred it to the Continuity IRA.The "New IRA" are their own thing, lacking the "legitimacy" but anyone who could grant it is dead now so unless the CIRA die/join them who the fuck knows.
>>539767059Every dissident Irish Republican group is far-left. Their stance on immigration does vary but is rarely actually against it.Best you'll get is the likes of the INLA's people who essentially said>so if you're going to flood working class areas with people who don't work and can't integrate, those working class areas should be able to say "no"
>>539766922Irish Enthno Facism. Thats what they need.
>>539761121I genuinwly dont understand how the IRA can be leftist while still advocating for Irish independence.They hate the idea of being replaced by the British and want the right to choose for themselves which group of brown people replaces them?Make it make sense anon.How can they be open borders leftists and simultaneously oppose rule by Britain and the EU?Is their grievance that the british government isnt ethnically replacing them with Pakistanis fast enough?
>>539766767you have some weird fetishism in your posts
>>539766922Honestly I think the Irish have the least to worry about that.For centuries they bred like cockroaches and infested every corner of the planet they could scurry to.At this part I suspect there are significantly more Irish outside of Ireland than in Ireland, so from a genetic standpoint it doesnt really matter what happens there.The british basically used the Irish as a bio weapon during colonialism.
>>539767225americans really are disgusting,everything is a form of entertainment to you. a nation of NPCs
>>539767250>I genuinwly dont understand how the IRA can be leftist while still advocating for Irish independence.pretty basic stuff anon, nationalism and self-determination don't have to be right wing ideas. The IRA's whole deal has always been "get britain (or any other foreign powerful body) out, the government's priority should be looking after ordinary people.">They hate the idea of being replaced by the British and want the right to choose for themselves which group of brown people replaces them?The IRA has never had any influence over immigration policy, anon. Sinn Féin has never been in government in Ireland and in Northern Ireland that stuff gets decided by London.>How can they be open borders leftists and simultaneously oppose rule by Britain and the EU?Honestly while I don't agree with this view the truth is that the memory of British troops (black AND white) kicking in doors and shooting people in Northern Ireland is fresh; that was the 1990s for many.So when they hear>who cares about Brits? you need to hate immigrantsthey'll just tell you that blacks have never done to them what the brits did. Loyalist groups continue to attack white Irish Catholics if they move into their areas so for a lot of Republicans skin colour doesn't really matter
>>539767462Insanity.You'll fight each other over catholic vs Protestant bullshit while both sides cheer and celebrate the building of mosques.You deserve each other.Fucking white niggers.
>>539763264Yeah, but as Adolf Hitler said, he would rather have one brave man with a stick than 100 cowards with machine guns. Voting will continually degrade our societies and allow parasites in. We're looking for the 10% in society who are not lemmings and are able to be altered with facts, and even smaller than that, the 1-3% who are willing to actually do something about it. That 1-3% stat comes from the fact that, that is the maximum numbers of people involved in any civil war ever, well, the ones fighting at least. If you shorten that down with the numbers of loyalists, you're bound not to have very many people, but that is all loyalists will ever have to work with. Even past that some will have other issues that dissuade them from joining whatever radical group is created. Normies would join after they can already see what side is going to win it. You have to get voting out of your head though. I wish it wasn't this way, but nothing is going to change even if there was a party that was ultimately ethnic nationalist. We can not and will not ever be voted in. Other ideologies understand this perfectly.
>>539767385It is amazing how fanatically devoted to your own racial extermination you people are.Someday alien archeologists will devote incomprehensible resources to attempting to understand how one race could collectively and simultaneously decide to end itself in such a way.
>>539767577>You'll fight each other over catholic vs Protestant bullshitThe Troubles wasn't fought over religion. The IRA's main goal was self-determination and the Provisional IRA's first Chief of Staff was born to two Protestants in England.>Fucking white niggers.Anon, you don't know anything about this. You are making retard sounds and then getting angry that people talk to you like a retard
>>539767619>one brave man with a stick than 100 cowards with machine guns.That one man would be completely atomized in current times. For all the benefit of being brave about it.
>>539767619Realistically anon as much as the whole>bro, voting doesn't matterthing appeals to some, in reality I know that long before there's some sort of rejection of democracy we will have to wrestle with the reality of the situation. As you say, the numbers are no longer there. On top of that>Loyalist paramilitaries do NOT have much in the way of arms caches>Loyalist paramilitaries are somehow more riddled with infighting than Republican ones>Loyalist paramilitaries will often oust their leaders to retain clout within the LCC so they don't lose funding>Loyalist paramilitaries work with Irish gangs to secure their drug supplies, often depending on non-white dealers>At their peak, Loyalist Paramilitaries weren't very goodSo no, lad, I don't think throwing any and all hope of electoral damage control to the wind is a good idea when the current trend suggests total victory for the broad left-wing Irish bloc. I mean if I wanted total unionist death I might suggest that, but I don't.
>>539761015The prods and micks can't stand each other, doubt any of them will work together to be anything effective in the future. It will be continued rape and pillaging by browns until the UK gets their fucking heds out of their arses
>>539767678I know that neither side of the conflict has above replacement birthrate and bothe britain and Ireland become less British or Irish with every passing year and you are more interested in fighting each other than doing anything about it.Your struggle is stupid because in 2 generations you will both such small ethnic minorities that nobody will care.You are like two native American tribes fighting while the white settlers flood in around you.At this point you deserve what they are going to do to you simply because you refuse to do anything about it.Your struggle doesnt fucking matter when neither of you are going to control Ireland in the near future
>>539765791>pilpulThey are the second largest party, like I said.Reform has never come anywhere close to this representation and your comparison is fucking stupid.
>>539764592Jeets galore fuck me. Perfect line up for a car ramming.
>>539767881>Your struggle is stupid because in 2 generations you will both such small ethnic minorities that nobody will care.I know you and I might be able to sit here and say this anon, but remember that some of these lads who grew up in the north faced down what many of us LARP will happen in the future; a hostile foreign body landing in your neighbourhood with guns and armoured cars with the intent being to skullfuck your community into obedience. They armed up, they went out without fear, and they put people in the ground.No matter how wise you think you are, telling boomers who did things like that how to behave or analyse politics is a waste of oxygen. What have YOU done to make America white again? Because I'm quite confident your answer will be>voted>posted on the internetI do not agree with Irish Republicanism's general head-in-the-sand approach to immigration but in all honestly the Republican movement had more stones than most of the "permission to parade" sorts nowadays.
>>539763264Even if you're morally/ideologically committed to the idea of voting your way out of problems, the amount and speed of change you'd need to solve this immigrant problem before it becomes permanently irrecoverable is not something democracy is capable of providing. Democracies that are built fundamentally around seeking consensus are great for peace time where they slow everyone's roll, but they're just not capable of moving quickly and decisively in acute crisis, since they're not designed to be either quick or decisive.Even if voting weren't being artificially prevented from making a difference, the structure of how it makes a difference would make it useless for this purpose. And I know the other way is madness, chaos and death that no sensible person is eager to enter into, but it's the option that has been left for us. Which I think is on purpose. Power wants our options to be submit on everything or flip the table, on the certainty that we won't dare flip the table.
>>539767913>second largest partyWhich is famously fucking meaningless if they don't have power. Sinn Féin have never, ever been in power and have famously never managed to get anything big passed that the government weren't also supporting. Them being the biggest losers does not make them secretly winners you utter fucking brainlet
>>539767913Thinking about it now, its actually hilarious how hard the Irish fought to have Gaelic become a language used in common life again, only now for it be replaced by farsi. I bet those public council debates are awkward as shit, seeing Irish nationalists, that fought to get Gaelic into public schools to preserve the Irish identity now fighting to undo that work by advocating for classes and street signs to be printed in Arabic. Its mental illness is what it is.
wow, thanks for the thread
>>539768090Like I said to the other anon, my prediction for the future of Ireland is:>United Ireland>The ex-Unionist/British vote will merge into one Ulster themed party >They will work with Fine Gael (Irish tories)>No meaningful change through unification itselfthis is why you hear a lot of talk about how unification is a "start" rather than an "end."
>>539768157Yeah, props again to OP for posting something informative.
>>539768184What are your birth rates like ?
>>539767897Top fucking kek, not even a drop of irish blood in me and that is unironically every meal i've had today.
>>539768257Same as every other developed European country; in decline. Ireland gets doublefucked though because (ask anyone) the greatest thing any young Irish person can hope to do is emigrate somewhere better.Irish Government will often boast about high employment levels but its just because everyone needs 2 jobs to afford a shitty bedsit.
This "New IRA" thing sounds like bollocks to me. The only people who'd benefit from another Republican vs Loyalist fight now are our traitor governments. Maybe northerners really are that retarded but right now it seems too convenient, like they're fabricating something to widen the divide.
It's simple Brits started to mess with Irish's precious browns and they chimping out because it means less shitskin comes to their isles to fill their worthless trash gypsy faces with their cum
>>539768357Housing issues eh? Too bad all that socialism can't get applied to housing.
>>539767677Listen, glownigger. You imported niggers back in the 1800's. You fought each other for the niggers. You practically mixed your founding stock out of existence. You are 50% off-white.American culture is centered around niggers.
>>539768376>sounds like bollocks to meJust like 90% of disso larping since 2005, it mostly is. I mean, it's true, but its for fuck all.>Maybe northerners really are that retarded most people think they're fags.Mind you, not as retarded as the lads who came up and started bumming the UDA at that one march. I believe 3 or 4 white Irish families burned from their homes by Loyalists in 2025.>>539768459Thing is that most of the government are landlords, so any attempt to improve the situation is blocked. I am not joking; the current government strategy to tackle the Irish housing crisis is to fix zoning laws to allow people to rent out garden sheds as homes.
>>539768357The problems, and solutions are all too obvious. We probably, have discussed them numerous times. But, in these times how do you build a community worth risking lives for ?
>>539768042>what have you done personallyI personally cannot physically remove all of the invaders from my country, but I can convince people that they are invaders and they must be removed.All policy is ultimately downstream of public sentiment.This is why optics matters.Its also why leftists spend so much energy on advocacy, it works.Physical action only works when public sentiment is on your side.The truly unfortunate truth about white genocide, is that whites dont care.We are being called like docile sheep. Its frustrating because it feels impotent as shit, but the most effective thing any of us can do is make the strongest argument possible as to why we need to care about preserving ourselves as an ethnicity.Thats how bad the situation is.If I believed that engaging in direct physical action would help to save our people I would, but unlike most mass shooters I understand how pointless such actions are.We arent talking about removing a handful of brown people from the local grocery store.We are talking about reversing the demographic trend that sheer math tells us will result in the functional extermination of our people by the end of the century.You tell people the planet is going to be 2 degrees warmer in a century and they are willing to chain themselves to excavators to prevent the construction of pipelines, but you tell them an entire ethnicity of people will become minorities in their own homelands over the same time frame and nobody cares.Thats a public perception problem. Everything else is downstream of that.Thats why I will criticize both sides of the irish/British struggle.In context it just doesnt matter.Maybe you guys should take a page out of the american book on this one.We have a long history of making peace with people we had bitter fights against.
>>539761015Who are the people stopping migrant busses, and burning down migrant centers? This seems pretty ethnic nationalist to me .
>>539768779They're just locals, typically.
>>539768476The jews imported the niggers, then they imported micks like you to fight to give em rights and keep em here forever.You were the jews favorite bioweapon until they found the jeets.
i can save her
>>539768680>all that text just to say "I post on the internet"The beef that Irish Republicans have with Loyalists/Britain aren't these far-off historical divides that they can simply "get over." It's still happening today, and you are essentially trying to convince them that it isn't.Like I said, I don't agree with how much they ignore the immigration thing but I certainly won't be lecturing them on not doing enough because they do more for their principles than you or I.
>>539768887MAMA
>>539768779>Who are the people stopping migrant busses, and burning down migrant centersDepends.>Republic of IrelandNo one single group, usually just local lads.>Northern IrelandLoyalists, although they chimp out every summer without much long term impact. East Belfast (hotspot of said riots) is still being bought and sold by property developers and is the site of a big send-off party for this years big giga-irish festival.
>>539768887Doesn't really need saving. Her costs will be covered by the infinite money within Irish Nationalism and it'll all go away.
>>539768779Too grassroots to even have a name. It's just people who don't want infinity niggers in their neighbourhood.
>>539768779Active club.
>>539768654It starts by convincing people that their own racial identity is something worthy of preserving this is why the kikes started by attacking culture. Its why they have fought so hard to convince people that there is nothing about white ide city worth preserving, so that nobody will oppose them as they systematically exterminate it.The Odyssey movie is a perfect recent example of what im talking about.The entire purpose of that film is to take a foundational work of western civilization and culture and deconstruct and deracinate it.To take it away from white people and give it to the world.To take the heroic inspiring elements out, and replace them with guilt and regret.To convince the world that there is nothing good and unique about white culture or white identity that is both worth preserving and exclusive to white people.It is total cultural isolation and degradation to the point that white people will embrace their own oblivion.That is what we have to overcome or no other actions we could possibly take would make a difference.
>>539768917And if I went outside right now and killed a brown person how would that be any more effective?If you actually believed that it would be more effective then why arent you yourself doing it?The fact is you are sitting here arguing why it is a good thing for white people to be fighting white people while both groups are being replaced.
>>539768814Based. I have to say I'm cheering for them. My neighbor is second gen irish he tells me about the troubles some times(from his mother). I sent him the video of those school kids singing and he said that his mom taught him that song when he was a kid.
>>539768917>It's still happening today, and you are essentially trying to convince them that it isn't.No, im trying to convince them that it doesnt matter when you dont have a future anyway.
>>539769020>Doesn't really need saving.ill be the judge of that, achmed
>>539769436Anon, she works with gun-runners and bombers. I don't think she'd have any interest in a basedjack posting yank on 4chan.>>539769260My point is you are disparaging people who demonstrably do extreme things for their beliefs instead of doing what you do, which is sitting on the internet moaning about it. Worse still, you demonstrate that you don't even understand the conflict or the roots of it. Did you miss the bit where I pointed out that *white Irish Catholic families* are burned from their home by Loyalists regularly? As recently as late last year?Like I said anon, Ireland is 85% white. It is naturally more difficult to convince people of an issue like immigration when they have more immediate and pressing concerns in a place where as late as the 1990s there was still a war on.
>>539769698>I don't think she'd have any interest in a basedjack posting yank on 4chan.The infinite sadness of being insufficiently based for any of the women that get posted here.
>>539769698Which is the greater threat? Replacement migration? Or the british?You're right I dont understand the roots of the conflict because I dont need to because it doesnt matter.You treat immigration like its a minor issue, it isn't. Third world immigration is an existential threat to all of the people's of Europe. So youre damn right im disparaging you for arguing about who broke a lamp while the fucking house is on fire.If and when both groups are secure in their ethnic future, then you can revisit these grievances.For now though its a question of perspective that makes the current Co flirt seem petty and insignificant.I dont care if british are still attacking the Irish or vice versa, the numbers of deaths are insignificant compared to the rate at which both groups are being replaced.So stop it, both of you, immigration is a bigger issue.I dont know why I need to be the one trying to convince you of this.This should be blatantly obvious and the only reason I can conclude why you refuse to see it is your own pettiness.
>>539769698>she works with gun-runners and bombers.i once double parked in a loading zone, you could say im somewhat of a serious criminal myself i live on the edge
>>539761015fuck the iraSMASH TAIGS, DEFEND ULSTERhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdk_ckcwowA
QUIS SEPARABIT
>>539767385You either want brits or browns. Why do you not want more irish? Have a little pride. You're embarassing yourself. Do all the irish collectively have FAS or wet brain?
>>539770025>Which is the greater threat? Replacement migration? Or the british?People will always worry more about problems that affect them now than ones that will in the future.You keep insisting I agree with this, I don't, you just know fuck all about Ireland. These people (dissident Republicans) see their people getting fucked over NOW by Brits+Loyalist, and remember browns in Libya and Palestine helping their dads and grandfathers fight. Simple stuff anon. Tragic, but simple.>>>539770175>>539770189>SMASH TAIGS, DEFEND ULSTERLoyalist Paramilitaries killed more of their own than they did of the IRA. They were completely ineffectual in combatting either the IRA or the wider political movement. In fact, an argument can be made that the IRA would never have made a comeback if not for them.
>>539770189Fucking tiresome.
>>539770274>Do all the irish collectively have FAS or wet brain?yes
>>539770356Assuming you're malding about the star, it has nothing to do with Israel. Ulster Loyalists love Israel because Republicans love Palestine; the ruling class are of course bought by Israel but the average Loyalist knows fuck all.The six points on the star refer to the 6 counties which comprise Northern Ireland.
>>539770025most euro normalfags hate their neighbours but ignore the ever increasing % of noneuros as long as it is trendy and economical to do so
>>539770356>>539770469/pol/ is really dumb about the "Star of David" sometimes. It had no association with Jews prior to the Zionist movement in the late 19th century and they picked it basically at random. Traditionally six-pointed stars were just a type of star that you might put on anything, a visual design with little symbolic meaning.
>>539761039the guys who want to create an all-island independent Irish Republic. >Typically left-wing.the guys who want to keep Northern Ireland in the UK. >Typically right-wing.thats how you know all of that is absolutely fake and gay masonic astroturfed glownigger stageplay
>>539770587In fairness the DUP (biggest pro-UK party in NI) do no favours to this rhetoric; they've all been bought by Israel.Here's their Chief Whip (right) and education minister (left) on a paid trip to Israel last year. They love them and lobbied for Israel to open an embassy in Belfast after they got chased out of Ireland.>>539770647>thats how you know all of that is absolutely fake and gay masonic astroturfed glownigger stageplay>BUZZWORDS BUZZWORDS BUZZWORDSGo ahead and find me the right-wing dissident Irish Republican group or the left-wing Loyalist paramilitary group and then we can talk, krautfag.
>>539770692>tfw forgot pictureThey will happily fly a flag where the non-jew star has been edited to be a jew star.
>>539770323>Loyalist Paramilitaries killed more of their own than they did of the IRA. They were completely ineffectual in combatting either the IRA or the wider political movementPROOFS? i just asked alexa and she disagreed with you
>>539770469>Assuming you're malding about the star, it has nothing to do with Israel.Then they should use something else.>>539770587>Traditionally six-pointed stars were just a type of star that you might put on anything, a visual design with little symbolic meaning.And what about today mate, in this moment that we're living, what is it associated with? >It had no association with Jews prior to the Zionist movement in the late 19th centuryBullshit, it's been used extensively since the 17th century to denote kikes and dates way back before that.You'd have to be a fucking retard to still be using it in the current political climate and not expected to be associated with kikes.
>>539770815As per the CAIN archive (main archive used for Troubles death statistics) here is a QRD:>Number of members of Republican Paramilitaries killed by Loyalists41>Number of members of Loyalist Paramilitaries killed by fellow Loyalists94>Number of civilians killed by Loyalist Paramilitaries878The likes of the UDA and UVF were not just "British versions" of the IRA; their campaign was very different. Most of it was basically>IRA do something>UDA/UVF drive into a mostly Catholic area and shoot/bomb someone on the off-chance they're a Catholic and thus, potentially, in the IRABy the 90s they were all up to their necks in the drug trade and spent far more time killing one another over petty feuds/territory than they did targeting the IRA. The Troubles was primarily fought between the IRA and the Police/British Army; Loyalists were just carrying out their own mostly random campaigns at the same time.
>>539770647
>>539770469>Ulster Loyalists love Israel because Republicans love PalestineThis is worth keeping in mind for outsiders. Much of northern politics is just saying "fuck you" to the other side. There's a lot less conviction in their tertiary beliefs than they pretend.
>>539770881>Then they should use something else.They don't use anything. NI doesn't have a flag anymore, just the Union flag. That flag hasn't been NI's flag since like the 1970s; Loyalists will fly it because it makes Nationalists and Republicans cry but that's about it.Maybe take a look at the number of points on the stars in your own flag mate. Are YOU Jewish?
>>539762695british loyalistusing swastika flagstotally not a glownigger op minority whites virtue signalling for overabundant niggers on the other side >either you are with them or you are with the others totally fucking fake and gay op for ftotal destruction by divide and conquer the political shit must be removed from this buzt they make sure that there will always be some political wedge they can use to divide and conquer the only way out of this is a purge ireland is perfect because its an island and the headcount is limited if it happens it will be in ireland from there on it will spread unless this happens the west is set to fail entwined in countless pointless astroturfed infights used as distraction to pickpocket and corrode their foundation by planting replacement migrants and further suppressing the white birthrate and economic success probability
>>539771002In fairness (said this earlier ITT) on the Palestine side it goes back to actual material (aka, "we'll give you guns") solidarity back during the Troubles; its just the Unionists that backed Israel out of spite as a result.The DUP+UUP+TUV are of course all loyal to Israel, but the rift between working class loyalists and political unionism grows every day.
>>539771012>Maybe take a look at the number of points on the stars in your own flag mate. Are YOU Jewish?Are you retarded?
>>539771055Listen, you retarded Kraut, there were British neo-nazis working hand in hand with Ulster Loyalists back in the 80s and 90s.The divide between Irish Catholics and Ulster Protestants is not artificial or glownigger shit, it stems back to a 30 year conflict that only really ended in the 1990s/early 2000s. Picrel was last year; Catholic kids were approached by Loyalist adults in a playpark and warned that their family was going to be attacked, and said white Irish family had to flee their homes because the Loyalists chimped out against them. Perhaps they should have simply cited birthrate statistics at the men trying to burn them from their home and insisted that they're all really on the same side.they should have nuked berlin to glass
>>539770952now how many of the "civilians" were actually paramilitary members?
>>539771180Are you? Is it the commonwealth star or is it ISRAEL? Are you a kike? Was Kangaroo Jack a film about birthright?Bitching about the NI banner being Jewish is funny as fuck>>539771219People who were in paramilitaries (in any role, even nonviolent) are not counted as civilians, anon. Similarly to how when the IRA cried about their people being "murdered" they were correctly counted as dead paramilitary members, not murdered civilians.Loyalist participation in the Troubles was ineffectual at best and self-harming at worst; reminder that the Good Friday Agreement is basically Sunningdale but with HUGE extra concessions to Irish Nationalists. Sunningdale failed because Loyalists protested over it having too many concessions to the Irish. Loyalists didn't gain anything from the Troubles that they didn't already have, but lost a great deal and put the constitutional future of NI permanently at risk.
>>539771002and not being under the pope's thumbhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT-EbciFZKU
>>539770323You keep insisting I do t understand why people behave the way they do.I do understand, I am simply trying to explain that it is foolish when confronted with a greater existential threat.Again, people are willing to chain themselves to buses over climate change but won't even vote for their own ethnic survival.Whatever the British are doing to the Irish is not a greater threat to the existence of the Irish people than what they are doing to themselves with unrestricted immigration.Its foolishness driven purely by emotion.I cant remove the Pakistanis from Ireland. All I can do is attempt to convince the Irish that this is something they should be concerned about.Im not even saying they are wrong about the British. Im saying that if they continue on their current course it ultimately won't matter what happens with the British since they they will be replaced either way.You can disagree with this, but this isnt an opinion, it is a simple fact of demographics.I am just trying to make you see that.
>>539771002itf this is true they all must go hypocrites are the worst of all traitors
>>539770486This is why I spend my time on the internet arguing with people trying to convince them that the continued existence of their people is something they should care about.Again, it is baffling to me that I even need to make this argument, it should be seof-evident, but thats how deep the brainwashing goes.
>>539771447Because these thumbs are so much better
>>539771489And I am telling you again and again that telling people>no no, don't be angry about what you're angry about. be angry about this other thingdoesn't work as easily as you believe.As I said earlier ITT, a lot of these groups have indeed addressed the immigration issue from an angle of demanding an end to working class areas being filled with migrants with zero integration efforts without any consultation with people who live there. All you're doing right now, all this energy you're spending is to "convince" me that immigration is bad, which I already agree with. You disparage these people for acting on their principles because their principles aren't your own-but all you do for what you believe in is post anonymously on 4chan.
>>539771200>British (((neo-)))nazisFTFY
>>539771055This.They are clearly trying to inflame the conflict between British and Irish until they get enough migrants in to make it irrelevant.
>>539771377https://www.thecollector.com/loyalist-groups-troubles/Loyalist paramilitary groups were quite effectual—they carried out the majority of the violence from the early ’90s to 1998 and even sparked border security changes with their cross‑border bombings.
>>539771629Sorry anon, I don't think the heavies who showed up at Drumcree to crack skulls spent much time picking apart what some autistic Kraut faggot would think of them on 4chan 50 years later.
>>539771618those are truly a working mans hands all those decades of defending the united kingdom from hordes of hostile invader cultists have clearly taken its toll god bless the king
>>539771200Ironic considering Irish Catholics were reporting British ship movements to the nazis in ww2.
>>539771377>Are you? Is it the commonwealth star or is it ISRAEL? Are you a kike? Was Kangaroo Jack a film about birthright?>Maybe take a look at the number of points on the stars in your own flag mate. Are YOU Jewish?Absolute fucking melty.
>>539771676>they carried out the majority of the violence from the early ’90s to 1998 and even sparked border security changes with their cross‑border bombingsNone of which was any hindrance to the IRA; that's the point I'm making. Absolutely wouldn't claim they weren't violent-Loyalists killed more civilians than any other belligerent in the conflict.But their greatest ever attack on the IRA (or any Republican group) is still the Cappagh Killings, which was more or less by complete accident. They did not damage the IRA, they didn't prevent the IRA from operating, and they categorically failed to stop the rise of Republicanism.>>539771735The "irish are nazis in ww2" is a kike invention, anon. Ireland were so pro-allies in WW2 that to call them neutral is basically a lie.>>539771736Anon, those stars have six sides. Just like the one in the Northern Ireland banner. It can only mean one thing...Israel and the Jews designed both!
>>539771685>I don't think that is evident pic related is see filename
>>539771840>Anon, those stars have six sides.You need glasses champ.
>>539767298is more like the reality that your most vulnerable people deal with every day
>>539771888KEKKEDI'm fucking blind. concession given, I dunno how I have missed that my entire life. point stands on the ulster issue, mind you, but on this one I am indisputably and infinitely BTFO
>>539771840What's with the red fist ?
>>539771986Red hand of Ulster clenched in defiance, I guess? The UFF was the cover name used by the UDA to carry out killings so they didn't get banned. Most UFF stuff features a clenched fist, while the UDA features the open red hand.
>>539771986https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Hand_of_UlsterBUT FISTIER
>>539771623And you criticizing me for making arguments online but what else am I supposed to do?Do you want me to go shoot an immigrant?What would that accomplish?I make arguments online because thats what is needed right now, as evidenced by you yourself insisting that the struggle against the british is more important than the continued existence of the Irish ethnicity.
>>539771936Kek you're all good mate, i'm sitting here going.......they're all seven sided and one five, as is drilled into us at school, there's literally not one six sides star, wtf is this cunt on about, I even went and checked the NZ flag thinking maybe you'd gotten us confused with them, but they're all five sided.
>>539771652thats why we have this thread fanning up the divide again traitors first before not all of the hypocrite traitors are purged there can be no peace no unity, either way or another, if this fake conflict is being carried on...they are backstabbing you distracting you, inciting you with this internal divide, then when you fight against your own brothers and sisters they replace you with high likelihood THEY are the ones that supply money and weapons so that your people can kill eachother, which only serves THEM and their "industrialist" / "slave owner" replacement plans, the slave owner does not care if the cattle is brown or white, does the farmer care if his milk cows are black or brown beyond what performance their udders give ? you are cattle to them, and they play you like gamepieces with their manipulators, snake tongued traitorsall of them must hangstop the war against your own kindclean up your ethnic homeland traitors first
>>539772109>I make arguments online because thats what is needed right nowand the people you disparaged are gathering guns and bombs for their cause. Their cause isn't yours, fair enough, but to denounce them while claiming that yet another anonymous retard on 4chan is "what's needed" is the most yankbrained shit ever.You'll be in /ptg/ 2 years deep into the next democratic president lad.>>539772155I literally googled the flag, looked at it, counted, and said >yep, 6. phew, don't wanna look like a retardsomehow the jews are indeed behind this
>>539772058Interesting, thought to represent a bloody hand print...based.
If the lads in belfast wanted to do meaningful change in your opinion what would they do? Directing the rioting towards HMOs worked on a small scale.
>>539772329That was the best thing they could do. Sadly it won't work long term as there's simply always more money and migrants. I really don't have an answer or advice for them beyond maybe not suggesting that we try harden the ROI-NI border to stop immigrants because that will 100000% make the UK just harden their own border against NI.
>>539762340>an actual redcoatcrazy you like having a king
>>539772329Remove politicians
