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>normal men hate it
>normal women hate it
>partake on it anyway
what is the point, why is it getting pushed, and for what purpose?
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meat urinal
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>>539766151
Jews and media.
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What is hu?

One night stand but what is hu specifically?
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Hook up of course silly me
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>>539766151
>>normal women hate it
no they don't retard and they don't hate that you leave. Every girl I hooked up with looked at me dirty when I asked if they wanted to get breakfast. They got their attention and are satiated and want you gone
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>>539766151
Why do militaries tear down new recruits?
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>>539766282
>meet person
>learn their name (optional)
>have sex same day
>probably never see them again
This is what's pushed as "normal".
I'd rather stir an unflushed toilet with my dick than stick it in some bar trash.
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I got Adblock and there is still cartoon porn which Grok said is used as a form of soft torture on the user base as it’s an internal azure framework rather than genuine ad
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>>539766340
That’s a great question

Tabula Rasa- the blank slate

Same reason they shave off the hair-
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>>539766151
Jews made it up when they did their commie stuff back in the 19 teens or something
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>>539766151
They need to invent artificial wombs already
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>>539766282
hookup
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>what is the point, why is it getting pushed, and for what purpose?
It's simple: because women are trend followers.
Most women decide on reproductive (and life in general) strategies based on what the social consensus is.
In any given society, there are always a few turbo whores, a few hyper chaste women, and most of the rest are within a spectrum, but on the fence.
In the past, it was chaste women keeping the turbowhores in line and making the average woman think of being a whore as shameful, so most didn't engage in casual sex. The ones leaning whorish hated it but the chaste leaning ones had no issue with it.
As of right now the turbowhores are dominant in the narrative and pressuring all the women to be whores too. The whore leaning ones love it, the chaste leaning ones hate it, but it's "what they're supposed to do".
The whore epidemic happened because we let the turbowhores have control over the female consensus
And then we ask ourselves why the consensus they arrived to is that they should be turbowhores
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>>539766151
Please god never give me a daughter
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>>539766260
you talk like its not the same thing
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>>539766499
Literally just Jews and their free love nonsense, unless someone can find something before Jews and their ivy league birth control sex parties
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>>539766151
>Women get to be whores just like they always dreamed.
>Men get to drain their collective dicks far easier just like they always dreamed.
and to think, all you had to do was tell women it was liberation to open their legs and accept poisoned load.

I had to stop being friends with a woman I know because she kept hooking up with awful men and eventually one gave her HIV, she kept blaming the men and I had heard enough of her, blew up in her face about how she was the one who kept sucking down the daily dick delights and it was her fault.

These bitch's problems are not my own, I got enough shit to worry about then them being emotionally retarded and never once understanding how to get a control on them.
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>>539766499
this actually makes way too much sense and it's what happened here at least
whores started loudly screeching about how much they're proud to be whores
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>>539766151
Hook ups are gross, you just have sex without a wash first? Thats why they are sad.
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>>539766584
The Romans
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>>539766726
>It's not the Jews it's the Romans
Can you bridge the 1500 year gap there
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>>539766762
I mean the Roman Catholic Church promoted Chastity but back in the day I think there was a helluva lot of debauchery going on
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>>539766240
that's what they fantasize about
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Just suck dick like a good girl no need to let randoms dump spooge into your birth canal
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>>539766883
Ah so it's not the Jews or the Romans it's the Catholics
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>>539766499
ok so turbowhores have all the power, how do we take it away from them
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>>539766151
The roastie thing is a meme. It's a genetic lottery, some vagainas are like that.
My mom for example has a pussy like a baby, you can see the labia
Yet my sister has a big labia even when she was a virgin
Same as the "uncut dicks smell Thing
I am cut and mine smells in just two days of not showering while the dick of my father, who only showers once a week, never smells.
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>>539766963
In sandbox countries they simply stone whores.
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>>539766945
How did you extrapolate that from what I said? I said the Catholics promoted the virtue of Chastity
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>>539766336
this
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Is hookup culture even still a thing? From what I gather, Zoomers don't actually have any real-world social interactions and Millennials have stopped trying a long time ago.
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>>539766987
>Jews come to the US
>Profit massively off of prohibition
>Dot inner cities with mob run speakeasies
>Fill them with prostitutes from who knows where
>Make films about femme fatales and make androgynous whore clothing for women
>Set up the first queer clubs
>Call women attracted to you cities of debauchery "young prostitutes" creating modern "duh I go big city and party with faggots"
>It's not the jews
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>>539766151
i will share a tidbit of knowledge with you faggots (none of you deserve it):
women. love. romance. novels.
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>>539766963
Not possible in the current paradigm. You have to get men collectivized to just not fuck/marry them and explicitly consider them low value and punish them socially. Simps will not follow, and most men will not follow cause muh dick. Most men are very very happy to wife up a total whore and get divorce fucked by her and publicly humiliated. Even multiple times

this will require a generational shift. Whore generations are totally cooked and ruined, irredeemable it has to be changed in the upcoming generations before they start becoming and worshipping whoredom.
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>>539767273
Thats why most of them are turning to those AI spicy chats and stuff. Interactive romance novel
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>>539767381
The AI tried to get spicy with me so I started reading them Latin idioms
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Origo Mali
Opus furiosa Cupido
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>>539766151
i'll care when they care>>539766240
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I work with mostly women. They bitch about getting used all the time. Funny cause they spend all their time fighting with each other. I just dip out and let them get yelled at for not working. Jew day care is real.
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>>539766499
Check'd

It goes through various cycles, but the golden mean would be for women to marry/reproduce while young. Somewhere between 18-23 years old.
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Birth Control and antibiotics, simple as.

Once the consequences of sex lessened with less oopsie babies and syphilis, the natural horniness of mankind went hogwild. People wanted to fuck, and fuck more than the older constraints openly allowed. Fuck and fuck without shame.

In modernity it comes from fact that there is no norms for dating and sex. The Boomers (men and women) pissed away the old norms in pursuit of snatch and cock, settled into a rough norm of serial monogamy by the 2000s.

That norm was unstable, and it itself got nuked with social media and dating apps. Now, no one knows what they want, everyone is on a meat market, no one trusts anyone and there is no pressure to form stable relationships. Men don't want to commit more than needed to women who could be insta-bicycles. Women think their pussies can tame men with more options than them. People get burned but have no alternative but to keep the pump-dump cycle or tap out unless they luck out.
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>>539766151
That can't be right. When feminism wins, it should make you happy. You can't feel sad and cry the whole day.
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>>539767699
How is it feminism to promote one night stands?

Sexual liberation was rejected by feminists like Andrea Dworkin- I don’t know too much about her but I do remember seeing her talking about that, she had a great line what was it- hmm


The difference between left-wing and right-wing when it comes to women is only about where exactly on our necks their boots should be placed. To right-wing men, we are private property. To left-wing men, we are public property. In either case, we are not considered to be humans. We are things
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One must recognise that this mass pity party is par for the course with a lot of women - they have an urge to embellish their supposed misery to the extent it's a form of social currency.
I don't think for one second the women in the image are lamenting their situation; they're simply using it as a platform to get attention.

For the record, I've felt melancholic after sex but you, dear reader, are the only person who knows this and, because I'm anonymous, it can freely admit this.
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>>539766151
>>normal women hate it
normal women love whoring more than anything else in the world
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>>539766336
>They got their attention and are satiated and want you gone
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Second-wave feminism emerged from the political Left, from radical progressives who criticized tradition and sought a reorganization of society that ensured freedom, justice, and equality for all. But the challenging radical politics of second-wave feminist figures like Andrea Dworkin have never been welcomed by the leftist majority. The antifeminist campaign has always had bases on the Left (for example, socialist men adopting the patriarchal sexual politics of the bourgeoisie under the guise of “proletarian morality”). And this conflict persists today—systemic misogyny continues to underlie the politics of the left wing. It rears its head most visibly on the internet, with leftist commentators, pundits, and content creators propagandizing in favor of the sex industry.
https://wildezine.com/4544/opinion/after-the-revolution-the-modern-lefts-misogyny-problem/
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>>539766151
>>partake on it anyway
the entire problem is that it's 10% of men "partaking" but 90% of women, which makes that 90% of women worthless, tainted, unmarriageable sluts that the 90% of men don't want to bother with anymore.

allowing fornication at all, let alone on a societal scale has been catastrophic for modern civilization.
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>>539767850

Feminism is, and always has been, an envy driven attempt by women to have the lifestyles, the wealth, and the power they see the men they desire have.

Feminism is having the right to vote and political power (like the men the 1st wave envied). It was the ability to fuck like the Don Juans in their romance books without judgement or consequences (like the 2nd wave). It was the economic power, status, and representation en mass as career jobosexuals (like what the third wave wanted).

Aspiration to be a distaff James Bond without any of the burdens and responsibilities of masculinity or femininity.
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>>539768633
Meet Andrea Dworkin
>>539767850

Jewish lady who was castigated for being “puritanical” and “too right wing” by “sex positive” feminists
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>>539767850
the only reason andrea fatjew dorkstein rejected "sexual liberation" was because she never got male attention a day in her life. a broken clock is right twice a day.
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>>539768732
So you think the dress makers (spinsters) should have been forbidden from sowing work?
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>>539768798
She had a long term partner though
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>>539766151
>why is it getting pushed, and for what purpose?
you realize how popular sex is right
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>>539768798

She had one toxic BDSM relationship with some stinky Dutch hippie and wordcel'd a career of cope after it.
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>>539766151
jewish MTV
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>>539767850
Is it that even though you don't want to have hookups, you want to have the right to have hookups, and therefore being forced to not have hookups is an oppressive boot on your neck?
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One of my worst fears is meeting a girl I like and finding out she had a 'hook up'. Can't think of anything more disqualifying in a partner than that.
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>>539766151
>normal women hate it

Have serious doubts about that
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>>539766151
Sexual revolution was the start of hook up culture. Boomers being retarded boomers thought they were all studs and it meant they’d all get multiple girlfriends when in reality all that happened was it created an incel and whore epidemic for their grandchildren
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>>539766151
Did you check the early life and career?
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>>539766987
Unironically this
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>>539769035
Hookup culture isn’t issued by law- why do you think shotgun weddings is a term?
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>>539768732
no way it isn't primarily economic, to get the maximum amount of women in school/the workforce and to maximize consumerism. All the sexual stuff is the bait, the slick coat of paint. Feminists' handlers are seeing dollar signs and the pleb girls took the bait hook, line and sinker
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>>539768889
her "partner" was a homosexual jewish theater owner. they literally met at the "Gay Academic Union". it was not an intimate relationship.
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>>539766499
I think it’s more men actually that keep the women in check. When we lived in a patriarchy men made sure women where chaste and encouraged slut shaming, but now we live in a matriarchy where slut shaming women makes you a creepy incel loser
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>>539769169
You know more than me- have you read her books?
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>>539769225
Then why is shotgun weddings a term?
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>>539769070
>Can't think of anything more disqualifying in a partner than that.
Lemme help you with that:
hooked up with a black.
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>>539766151
>normal women hate it
Anon, you're very naive about young w*men
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>>539766151
I enjoy it and dont feel bad about it at all. You call yourself a spaniard?
t. fellow spainanon
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>>539769147
I don't really care about that. I just was curious how you see feminism, leftism, and rightism. To me, it seems that you think that feminism gives you the opportunity, which in this context is to have hookups, rightism removes that opportunity, and leftism forces you to have hookups.
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>>539769071
They do hate it, they're just lemmings who will do what's expected of them anyway. The average woman is such a perfect slave that you don't even have to tell them to do it directly, you just need to imply it's what everyone does and they'll pro-actively comply.
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>>539766151
>Where did the hookup culture push come from?
Men.
Is everyone realy that young or demented that they dont remember how men hated that women were all about marriage and didnt just want to have fun. How women used to be called boring and a ball of chain because they didnt want casual sex?
Men were the ones that pushed for it, until reality hit them in the head and realized that women wont chose THEM for casual relationships.
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>>539766151
I'm not a christcuck, but E Michael Jones is probably right with his thesis in Libido Dominandi that sexual liberation is a form of political control. Similar ideas were already talked about by the likes of Aldous Huxley. When you can't control your base urges, they end up controlling you and the elites push this degenerate behavior to keep you distracted and from forming meaningful relationships, families, and communities. It has been extremely successful.
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>>539768863

First wave feminism was a vanity project to break women out of their traditional feminine sphere out of spite towards men being the bread winners and being denied access to a male sphere of society they felt entitled to enter.

>>539769151

There is indeed an economic aspect to it. Especially second-wave on. It interplays however with broader societal forces, a pathology amongst feminist activists, naive male beliefs that liberation equaled more pussy (thinking female sexuality was just repressed male sexuality) and shifts that allowed the possibility of female liberation in the first place.
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>>539769350
>men hated that women were all about marriage and didnt just want to have fun.
When was this?
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>>539766336
This is true until they hit the wall and get ignored by the top 10%. Then they get mad when Chad fucks the younger version of them. They then develop bpd and other mental illnesses due to their inability to take accountability. Jews really did a number on white women
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>>539769299
Personally I think being a stay at home wife and mother is great if that’s what the woman wants but not every woman wants that and I think having a choice solidifies the choice for those who make great mothers and choose to do so.

I think being a Nun is also great, which is a form of work. Is it not?
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>>539766987
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>>539769079
The boomers had the perfect inflection point for a sexual revolution because they were coming from a more functional and traditional sexual culture. There's a lag between the destruction of sexual order and the realization that it's been destroyed, which is the perfect time to be of breeding age; you get most of the benefits of the old order since most people's expectations haven't updated yet, but you don't get any of the negatives of those expectations since they are de facto no longer in force. You can fuck around AND still marry at the end, since everyone remembers what marriage is still.

The millennials were left to hold the bill for that since we got the downstream effects of divorce and the loss of expectations. By our time everyone had noticed that the sexual order had been destroyed and everyone started acting like it.
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>>539769399
>They then develop bpd
that shit develops in grade school from poor parenting
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>>539769350
Boomer men all had huge egos because they could get a GF easily in their youth and thought that the sexual revolution meant they’d be able to get a bunch more women to have sex with but all it did was make them incels and gave women the freedom to have sex with the top men. Opposite outcome what they were hoping for, they thought they all thought they were the top men when they actually weren’t
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>>539769521
None of those guys practice Judaism though.

They don’t follow the ten commandments- as pornography is to covet
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>>539769393
Buddy put on any tv show or movie before 80's. Expecialy ones in 40's and 50's
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>>539768219
Yep. The more power you give women, the more your civilisation dies, because she simply will keep finding new ways to divert her energies to anything but having babies.
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>>539769564
>The millennials were left to hold the bill for that since we got the downstream effects of divorce and the loss of expectations.
plus obesity, debt, tattoos and social media. There are like 20 nails in this coffin but that's another topic
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>>539769350
True that.

“Ball and chain” “old girl” etc etc

There is a comedian I loathe called Chubby Brown who was explicit in his loathing of wives- he was pushed and popular among working class men, where that ideology was prevalent
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>>539766151
Every one of those women are one bad period away from filing a false rape accusation.
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>>539769593
Pretty much. I dont get how everyone is forgeting this. I am in my early 30's and I still remember seeing everyone call women boring for not having casual sex.
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>>539766151
The boomer sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s is what started modern hookup culture in the west. Which it's funny how feminists tend to frame the whole thing as being a big moment of liberation for women but another huge aspect of it was that it also absolved men of accountability. People often forget that traditional marriage was a method of control over men's sexual impulses as well, by applying social pressure to make them marry a woman in order to get access to sex. Now it's just a no-strings attached all-you-can-fuck buffet, at least for the more sexually attractive percentile of men.
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>>539769861
Yes and the idea women were obsessed with marriage as you say. Whereas the idea that “men have to sow their wild oats before settling down” was the zeitgeist

“Boys will be boys” is another one.
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>>539769483
What if just having that choice comes with a great cost? E.g., women having the choice to work inflates the supply of workers, lowers wages, and inflates prices by increased demand among other effects such as increasing expectations of adequate wealth. As a result, where once a man could support an entire family, now you need two incomes. The opportunity to choose to work took away the opportunity to choose anything else.

I don't think the opportunity to choose is that great of a moral maxim in any case. Some things you should never choose to do, so would it be so bad if you couldn't choose them at all? OP's women certainly might be happier if they couldn't.
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>>539769957
So what is a woman unable to find a partner to do in your model?
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>>539769632
That's a lifetime ago. Is it so surprising if people don't remember that?
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>>539769483
> Personally I think being a stay at home wife and mother is great if that’s what the woman wants but not every woman wants that and I think having a choice solidifies the choice for those who make great mothers and choose to do so.

The problem is that the other options they have should not be an option, what I mean is that if women don’t want to be a wife/house mother they shouldn’t have the ability to get a high paying lazy girl job or displace a man in a professional job such as being a Doctor, policeman, firefighter, etc. Under a proper natural order women’s options would be the whore house, working a shitty job like grocery clerk, become a nun or be a house mother /wife.

>but that is unfair

Yeah, well life is unfair, nature is unfair it is what it is. You could make the same argument that men are oppressed, how men have to suffer working a hard job to make the money and provide while the woman gets to be comfy at home.

Both sexes has their natural roles that come with advantages and disadvantages. The modern feminism that uplifts women to equality with men is actually making men less advantageous because women keep all the advantages while then getting also the advantages that men have and in our matriarchy it goes beyond that and gives women extra privileges such as preferential treatment in education, jobs, and the law. It’s and inversion of the natural order that grants women power over men
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>>539769939
The whole problem is women are sheep, they are never the trend setters. Just like Anime, just like gaming, its always 1st pished and popularized by men before women get into it.
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>>539770024
On 4chan who are meticulous chronological anthropologists?


Maybe the demographics have changed here but /pol/ had very savvy nous regarding the flow of political and anthropological changes
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>>539770024
But thats the thing. It wasnt rare even after that. I am early 30s and I still remember people calling women prudes and boring for not having sex for fun.
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>>539770019
I think people who end up alone will suffer regardless of how the society is structured, regardless of the gender.
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>>539769766

The push came from both ends at the same time. Men who chafed against the constraints of marriage, as well as women who wanted similarly to fuck around and enjoy themselves before getting hitched.

Helen Gurley Brown and their types were as much as a push on the female side as Hugh Hefner and his types were on the male side.
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>>539770082
>>539770063


Neither of you have answered-

Being a nun is a form of work, is it not?

And also

What about women who aren’t able to get a partner? How are they to survive where work is forbidden to them?
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>>539766151
jewish run modern media. watch any early 2000s comedy or tv show, at the very least there is no push back against the concept, and at worst they actively promote it. The boomers had been weakened through materialism and other propaganda to have little interest in raising their kids, leaving the impressionable youth completely vulnerable to this facet of subversion.
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>>539766151
Are women easily manipulated or something?
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>>539770198
But thats where I disagree. Women had no part in it, its just men. Women are never trend setters nor culture changers. Just like Anime, just like with Gaming, its always 1st pushed and popularized by men before women get into it. Women are sheep that follow men and whats popular.
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>>539766151
cunts wanted this
they made this bed

we could have monogamy
we could have marriages that actually mean something instead of just a meal ticket and a cash out for whores
we could have order
we could have intimacy that's actually real

but oh no!
no no no!
foids didn't want that!
so instead we get hypergamy
and child murder
and STDs
and divorce rapes
and alimony
and hump and dumps
and cock carousels
and prostitutes
and on and on and on

holes wanted this.
holes did this.
and men allowed it.

the solutions to all this stuff is right in fucking front of you.
just enforce monogamy
outlaw divorce
make it legal for men to uphold order and discipline in their own households (i.e. beat their wife if necessary)
outlaw child murder

it's simple
it's obvious
it's right in front of you
this bullshit we have will continue as long as you tolerate and allow it
you've been told for many years how to fix all these problems
at this point it's on you
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>>539770198
No the comedian Roy Chubby Broen- I should have included his full name.

As a youngster I recall hearing his routine and feeling sickened. This was at a time where woman really would have dinner on the table by 6pm etc

Yet even under those conditions- there was still an outpouring of resentment towards the wife- why?
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>>539770150
Well, I'm sure men still do that. They just aren't upset that women are all about marriage, like they might have once been.
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>>539770300
Jesus permitted divorce where adultery was present. Do you know the reasons for their divorce?

Jesus was a prototype feminist- the “slut shaming” the Christian men on this thread are advocating is in direct contradiction to Jesus.
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>>539770255
They're easily manipulated specifically by psychopaths. You know the whole thing with Schizos, Psychos, and Normies, where Normies are easily manipulated by the Psychos to hate the Schizos because the Schizos can see the Psychos and how fucked up they are? Women are the textbook example of Normies.
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>>539770225
The fuck are you talking about? And to awnser your question reardless. They were never forbidden to work. Women could both work and own property back then inspite of what feminists tell you. It just wasnt written in the law because it was so rare.
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>>539770225
> What about women who aren’t able to get a partner? How are they to survive where work is forbidden to them?

Work at a whorehouse, be a nun or low level work meant for a teenager. Those are the choices for women that fail to get a partner or refuse to.
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>>539770457
Work at a whorehouse?

I thought you said casual sex was degenerate?
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>>539770295

No. At least past a certain point in the 20th century, there did develop (as a consequence of 1st Wave Feminism) a fair segment of female elites and trend-setters that diffused their own attitudes outward onto the masses.

The Sexual Revolution was, in large part, the masses aping the perceived casual fucking and affairs of the elites. And women are no exception. Those women in the literati and their own little corner of the elite wanted out of marriage and into a multitude of beds. Monkey see, monkey do.

The men of the elite at the time in their naive, liberal consensus (at least in the West) indulged this. Partially out of self interest, partially because of the faddishness of Freudianism, partially because technology was seemingly making the old monogamous norms many of them saw as oppressive supposedly obsolete.
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Jews
To turn white women into sluts and lower white birthrates
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>>539769399
>retard has an opinion
>>539769581
possible but its mostly genetic
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>>539766499
>The whore epidemic happened because we let the turbowhores have control over the female consensus
wrong. this is happening because men abdicated their authority over women.
the solution is to make women property.
women should be the chattel property of their father until marriage and then property of their husband.
and if you have kids with a woman you shouldn't be allowed to divorce her or have another woman.

women misbehave because men allow it
in other words, simps are the true cause of 90% of the problems facing the West today.
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>>539770526
I think it would be naive of a prostitute to expect a man to want to marry her because her profession is indeed degenerate.
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>>539766151
Women loved it when it was only conservative men/their dads who didn't like it.
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>>539770590
Look who was behind the sufferagtes. As I said, women are not trend setters. Far too few of them are born with a low level of agreeablness needed to go against the norm. We already know from psyhology that women score higher than men in agreeablness
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>>539770658

But porn wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for men

And “whorehouses” have existed since antiquity meaning men generally (not all) have never taken marriage vows of betrothal seriously and think they can opt out of Vows to satisfy urges
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>>539769622
They follow the evil Talmudic Baal cult which is what “Judaism” has been for the past 1500 years. You’re right though, they don’t follow the 10 commandments.
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>>539766963
men have power
so use it
take your government back
end women's rights
kill all the invaders

like the Odyssey. The real one. When Odysseus gets back home and kills all the suitors that were trying to cuck him and has his son kill the disloyal wenches who whored with the suitors

Western men should stand up and retake their birthright. retake their lands. retake their women. re-establish their supremacy in their own native countries.

or will you crouch down like a pussy whipped cucked little faggot and let the nations that your fathers sweated blood to build for two thousand years be destroyed?
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>>539770711
Men fall in love with prostitutes all the time, look at La Trek- they were his muse-

However I was asking Anon to explain himself. Since you have answered I shall ask

If prostitution is degenerate in your opinion, then why do men engage in it?

For the woman it is financial- for the man, it is his want.
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>>539766151
it came from women
>normal women hate it
women don't know what they want. They used to be conditioned to seek stable relationships with nice guys. Then feminism came along and told them to just have lots of casual sex instead.
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>>539766617
>daily dick delights
You're trying to be funny, but the vulgar way you speak is nauseating. You're not funny and a major fucking faggot. You and your stupid female friend should go to hell.
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>>539770781

Those few that are make some manner of waves. Your RBG types or the daughters of money in society. Those who are, unfortunately for them, in a sense akin to men trapped in female bodies contra their crowd.

Give them a microphone and they get heard. The men of society, poo-pooing with pity or some sort of idealistic gender-blindness, tossed them it.
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>>539770781
In the US the suffragettes spawned directly from the same radical fruitcake yankee puritan bozo-the-clown dogwater that spawned abolition. This isnt conjecture either, the lineage is direct.
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>>539767018
Stop posting this. It's not funny and you're not funny.
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>>539767638
accurate, insightful, and wise
but you stopped short of describing any solutions...
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>>539770871
>If prostitution is degenerate in your opinion, then why do men engage in it?
As you said, it's because they want to. I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. Are you upset that male and female virtues are somewhat different, or do you see it as hypocritical that men consider prostitutes degenerate while still paying for their services?
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>>539766151
>normal women hate it
who’s gonna tell him?
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>>539766336

Lies
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Women are children. They need a strong man to set the rules for them. They need control. If they are left alone they do stupid things. They need discipline and structure.
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>>539769350
LMAO no, not at all. Stop getting your understanding of the world from pop culture, because at least in America it comes from women. That's why hookup culture didn't become a thing until after
1) Feminism told women to reject relationships and just have casual sex instead
2) Dating became completely one-sided with women having all of the power

before feminism, and when dating was more balanced, hookups were frowned upon.
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It was promoted in the 70's like tans shit is nowadays.
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>>539766151
normal women don't hate it, they just hate the outcome.
they think they are hot shit and chad will totally fall in eternal love from them if they let him stick his dick into their honey-trap.
and then their ego gets devastated when he gets up, puts on his pants and leaves 2 minutes after nutting off and they have to realize that they are not actually hot shit, they are just number 78 on his list and he'll have forgotten about them by tomorrow.
that's what they hate, the realization that they weren't good enough.
the fucking strangers thing is whatever to them.
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>>539769225
No, it's women
Women henpeck each other like crazy, if you're not with the herd, you're to be put down (which is why autistic women mask more often than autistic men)
Women are the biggest social enforcers for their own behaviours, for good or bad
At most what men did was let the turbowhores preach with impunity
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>>539769939
>the idea women were obsessed with marriage as you say
literally never happened anywhere im history ever. they love wedding dresses, but hate marriage with the fury of a thousand suns
>Whereas the idea that “men have to sow their wild oats before settling down” was the zeitgeist
yeah thats rich degenerates who normal women will crawl a mile across broken glass to give pussy to
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>>539771041
kek, this. Civilizations always had to control women's choices because women would just be whores and fuck degenerate criminals otherwise.
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>>539770145
Those anons got promoted to got different jobs.

Now everyone is prob trying to use ai to fill the gap.

Most of the interesting and reveal “pilling” posts here have been made by glories somehow assigned here
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>>539771028
Men want it
Women do it for survival

Such as the rise in prostitution during the collapse of the Soviet System-

Correct?
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>>539770789
"whore epidemic" is not the same as a limited number of prostitutes and brothels always having existed.
the flu has always existed, and ebola , and the common cold. But that's different from an epidemic.
I can tell that you were publicly educated and have the reading comprehension of a nigger.
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>>539770995

Being honest, I have no idea. Society flew too close to the sexual sun and is in the process of crashing. It's up to individuals to live as they can, reap what fruits they can, and find some kind of success in spite of it.

The only real solutions I vaguely see are a population crash doing a kind of reset, wherein the more conservative populations replace the more liberal ones and reimpose their norms on society at large. Or else, just a continuation of the present where the elite marry, the masses get lumped into incel/femceldom and polycules

I'd personally try to at least passive-aggressively roll back the worst of feminism in ways palatable to modernity. But anything close to that would trigger a reaction like antibodies to a virus even if short of a kind of meme sharia law.
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>>539771190
Yes, that's right. Well, I don't know about Soviet prostitution, but I'm sure it indeed happened, as it always does during economic turmoil.
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>>539766151
>hate it
No they don't, they just get old and realise their best days are behind them
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>>539771120
what gibs french frontholes that "je ne sais quoi?"
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>>539770225
>What about women who aren’t able to get a partner? How are they to survive where work is forbidden to them?
women should have no option but to starve in the streets until and unless they can find a man to take ownership of them.
or perhaps the government should round them up and sell them at auction.
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>>539771217
Limited number?

Is porn not one of the biggest industries?

Is there a majority of men engaging in porn or minority - even in so called hyper- religious theocracies?
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>>539766151
I want to cum on their tits and then give them a spatula so they can shovel the cum in.
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>>539770526
It is but there will always be degens, even national socialist Germany had whore houses. The function of the whore house in society is they serve as an example and warning for the younger generations of a failed woman.

In a perfect society the whore houses would eventually disappear as no woman ends up as a failed woman
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>>539771278
Would you say women often think sex is accompanied by burgeoning love?

Whereas men view it without that view?
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>>539770977
>Stop posting this. It's not funny and you're not funny.
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>>539766151
>Where did the hookup culture push come from?
Jews promoted paraphiliac (see "homosexual") practices onto straight Whites
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>>539771341
Well that’s because behind the facade of purity the Nazis we’re degenerates promoting lust as a

>bourgeoisie under the guise of “proletarian morality”

They wouldn’t want it for their daughters, so they were total hypocrites
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>>539769263
Hooked up with anyone, anon
If she’s not a virgin she’s literal gutter trash
Only good for a cheap fuck - nothing more. That’s WHY she let men hit it for free without commitment, because she’s not worth anything more
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>>539766151
crazy how mods are powerless to stop spam posting of 3 year old threads.
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>i look like this and say this
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>>539766315
Take a week off posting, fren.
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>>539771543
The fact you call your own mother a whore is revealing
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>>539766499
All women are whores stop with this stupid babble.
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>>539771574
I’m going to soon but not yet fren
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>>539771504

The Nazis operated on a more neo-pagan kind of morality to it.

The parents were aghast, but the party themselves had no issue with kids in the youth camps fucking like wild if it made more Aryan babies.

The other Catholic fascists just maintained that functional Mediterranean sexual hypocrisy as is.
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we need based anime hitler to put these frontholes in line
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>>539771543
Okay, good luck finding one older than 12 I guess.
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>>539766151
Feminism.
Nothing has changed with men. Men have always beens genetically predisposed to sleep with as many women as possible. Everything changed with women and we're all worse off because of it in the name of "liberation" aka whoring.
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>>539766151
Rofl, women are aware that they're being used as cum dumpsters and cry afterwards but they keep doing it anyways, almost like feeling like a worthless piece of garbage is the point.
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>>539769125
What's crazy about jews is how, while many are in powerful positions and very rich, so many of them are willing to be poor academics

It's so weird to me how many jews are willing to basically sacrifice their own ability to have a good life, just to create propaganda for their tribe.

I'm both disgusted and impressed
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>>539771699
Celtic and German paganism was based on monogamy- so that’s nonsense

I am very surprised Hitler would ever agree to Joy Division considering he had an aversion to smut
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/pol/ will blame the Jews but it’s the natural consequence of liberating and empowering spoiled narcissistic women. This is just what women are like at their worst.
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>>539771699
>The parents were aghast, but the party themselves had no issue with kids in the youth camps fucking like wild if it made more Aryan babies.
How could this even happen when Hitlerjugend was for boys only, and girls had their own youth organizations?
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>>539769399
Really did a number on all of us bro.
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>>539766151
Hookup culture is brown/black/Judeo culture. These retards don't understand the consequences of brown culture and the STDs/stupidity that follows such a pursuit.

You're not going to get Izzat by mystery meat browns simply by having sex with Jamal/Ahmeed/Poopjeet/Chad. Social media will just laugh at you for it. It's fundamentally retarded hooking up with d00dle niggers, browns, blacks, Jews, etc.

White culture is more refined and better for society. If you don't practice white culture, then you practice brown hookup culture and rape.
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>>539770905
ywnbaw
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>>539767073
Mind boggling, isn't it? Its as if they saw what they wanted to see instead of reading the words you actually wrote.
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>>539766493
jeez gass all zoomers
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>>539766151
If you don't know why you haven't lurked long enough
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>>539771810

They didn't keep up Pagan morality as it was. It was a 19th Century Romantic/Decadent interpretation of pagan morality sexed up with eugenics and war-of-the-cradle concerns.

The goal being to liberate sex up to a point where they'd maintain a functional society and outnumber the Slavs.

>>539770948

And the deep irony is that birth control came from Protestant concerns about Catholics fucking like rabbits while WASP-descendants sought liberation through 'Mediterranean' types of sexuality.
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Jews 1968
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>>539766151

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>>539771882
> pol/ will blame the Jews

Yes
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>>539769353
Enkindu gambit
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>>539771751
> thinks everywhere is like his degenerate white trash town in Kentucky
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>>539771504
They cleaned up degenerate Weimar very good and brought back many traditional values. Sure there were still some problems but the society only lasted like 10 years because of ww2 ending it. The amount of change and progress in the little time they had power and were free was unlike anything in history
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>>539770019
The same thing a male without a partner does. Live for your family. Brothers, sisters, nieces nephews, grand parents, aunts, uncles. And to be fair, very few women end up alone unless they themselves set their standards too high. I won't say there are plenty of men out there who are good. Certainly not good looking and high wealth, which seems to be the standard for todays women regardless of where on the what do you bring to the table scale they lie on.
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>>539772238
> and now they’re all sluts
What a coincidence
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>>539772091
> It was a 19th Century Romantic/Decadent interpretation of pagan morality

Performative ancestralism you could say.

Do you know much on Plato’s eugenics, I am going to have to read up on it again but do you have insight into how it was structured?

I almost condemned Plato when I heard of his condemnation of Orpheus but I was mistaken, it was another character and Socrates lauds Orpheus as one he would be willing to die in order to hold his company
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>>539771313
This is the only real answer.
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>>539771782
Becuase they didn't sacrifice anything. For being poor acedemics none of them seem to want for anything. They all have houses worth in the millions of dollars (these days lol) and always seem to have money to travel.

Real poor people don't have the option to travel or go to this or that jew run gala or party. They don't get to live rent free in a house or apartment their jew uncle or aunt or mother or father owns and collects rent on.

Whats crazy is you think any of their poor play acting is true.
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>>539769250
Because if you screwed a girl out of wedlock and got her pregnant (or just period screwed her and thus lowered her value on the marriage table) then her brothers, uncles and fathers would force you to marry her or they would blow your fucking head off.
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>>539770225
>What about women who aren’t able to get a partner? How are they to survive where work is forbidden to them?
Historically such women did get work. For example, the word spinster exists because such women would spin yarn as an employment to support themselves. Many guilds were supplied primarily by such women.
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>>539771313
actual factual
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>>539772417
When a fundamental preset of the order was to reduce women to prostitutes- as a means to an end- it is in Kantian terms- Ugly
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>>539772685
Yes and that idea comes from the Talmud though in antiquity it was for the crime of rape. Rather than consensual sex.
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>>539772417
we need based anime hitler
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>>539772686
Yes and as I have mentioned the term in this thread prior to your elucidation-

Spinster was a derogatory term

Whereas Playboy was seen as almost Aristocratic
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>>539772386
Ask women yourself, if you can get them to tell the truth for once.
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>>539766151

((( I don’t know… )))
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>>539766499
Well yah women are herd animals.
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Bros
Women slut shame each other constantly and tear each other down without remorse
But if a man simply says, “I only commit if she’s a virgin” - they go crazy? Why??
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>>539771645
What makes you say that
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>>539766151
>normal men hate it
>normal women hate it
the fact that they partake in it is a proof they are not normal
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>>539769632
You realize television isn't real, right?
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>>539766151
People who don't hate it are too busy hooking up to participate those discussions.
The entire internet is anti-fun except video social media. It fascinates me sometimes, there's a whole big world out there of people having different kinds of fun and doing interesting things they are almost totally absent from being mentioned on the internet.
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>>539769399
If a woman is fucking around like that she is likely already mentally ill.
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>>539767165
Yes it is definitely still a thing. Not every young person is a shut-in.
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>>539766340
To break down their spirit so they can be rebuilt into whatever the military needs them to be.
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>>539773042
Because he has watched porn and is unfit

Look what happened to Jessica Simpson

One of the most beautiful women in the world, rich- married as a virgin

Was cheated on.
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>>539766240
>meat
>urinal
Smothered in poop, and you've got every jeets' culinary wet dream.
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>>539767018
Genitals just get longer and droopier as people get older. Long labia is like droopy balls, or how old people their ears and nose keep growing.
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The greatest example I can give is

Adriana Lima

The most beautiful woman of all time

Her husband cheated on her

How is that even possible?
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>>539772762
Pretty sure it was a rather well known response from any patriarchal culture. The men made sure that the women were taken care of and that means sometimes forcing some outsider to do his part of be honor killed. If they didn't just kill the offender.
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>>539773314
>How is that even possible?
they couldn't see eye to eye....his are too close together and hers are too far apart
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>>539773123
Alexisters we won...
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>>539773314
She hit the wall. Got super fat after pregnancy and stayed fat. Went on Ozempic and lost the weight. Then bogged herself into plastic fantasy land. Adriana is cooked fr fr. Nicola Cavanis is the future.
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>>539766151
from faggots
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>>539766151
Men and women who are more or less on the same level in terms of looks and sexual appetite will engage in coitus. However due to hyper capitalism the women in our society are more reluctant to give it up for free. Even the women on the dating apps are basically selling content and their ass if the price is right. I stopped using that altogether and mostly satiate my needs by having intercourse with homeless drug addicts. They’re everywhere but the problem is you have to be proactive. A little trick I learned is they almost always hang out around storage facilities. Just the other day I found a 40 something yr old white woman who was living in one of the units and I just asked her straight up if she was available for a date. She said yes and I shit you not it only costed me $60. That’s insanely cheap in this day and age. To put things into perspective, the last time I called an escort for her services she quoted me $200 MINIMUM and it was all covered (condom). Not to mention occasionally you’ll get up charged for nonsensical things like going a little bit over your time, not coming fast enough or even touching certain areas. Anyways I’m so called the Chinese and Mexican cartels are creating American zombies everyday. It allows someone like me to enjoy the buffet! See what I did? I could be a poet. I’m not black.
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>>539766151
Men love fucking. Women love fucking. Its not that complicated.
Who oposess it most are insecure poeple. Wifes that offer nothing other than sex and are afraid of some hotter taking her husband or husband not commiting at all because he is not desparate.
And incels and shitty men that want primarly for other men to suffer and secondary for women to not have anyone to compare to the shitty deal they offer.

Thats the reality yhe rest is cope.
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>>539766151

I pump and dump women every weekend if possible. Feels good man.

I specialise in ukranian cafe staff here in UK, there is an endless supply of them. Dont like the crying afterwards though.
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>>539773458
Adriana did not “hit the wall” you utter filth
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>>539773585
Based Pakistani Sikh warrior. You are bro-tier. Please emigrate to Surrey, Canada so we can do Indian crime.
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>>539766151
Jews cultivated "free live and easy sex" in boomers and gen x who thought if they lower the quality of women it'll make it easier to get laid. That worked for a bit, then it horseshoed to them only prioritizing am unattainable superficial traits and no longer anything close to actual character, downgrading the species to little more than studded livestock.
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>>539773515
wtf..
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>>539773590
She clearly hit the wall forehead first. You gotta shitting me with that picture.
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>>539767599
>They bitch about getting used all the time.

Used by who exactly?
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>>539773718
Teutonic ideal as it happens and the perfect geometry of youthfulness
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>>539766514
And the Lord said unto Anon,
>Because you used the lower case g, I will curse you with many daughters. They will lie with dogs and niggers and post the pictures online.
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>>539771543
Kek good luck finding a virgin on the dating market. Remember this: men multiply, women divide.
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>>539766151

They're virtue signaling, it is female nature to prefer hook-ups over relationships as females are incapable of loving men, they see men as either flesh dildos or living turds.
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>>539769071
Why do you have serious doubts?

>>539773428
Still looking for the original thread that image was made in.
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>>539773816
I don't know what you're on about. Have another Nicola picture to cure your obsession with melted candle wax-face Adriana Lima.
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>>539773850
That’s antithetical to the truth
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>>539771146
women want to get married but they don't want to be married.
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>>539773943
I don’t need another Nicole picture, she is a stunning woman

However- one day you will discard her too because your appetite is insatiable and a facet of your suffering
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>>539766151
>normal men hate it
LOL no, are you completely retarded? Normal men were the primary drivers of the sexual revolution and hookup culture because it allows us to achieve our primary reproductive drive to have lots of sex with lots of different fertile young women for minimal effort.
In the past, the only socially acceptable way for men to have sex was in the context of marriage. Now, you don't need to lock yourself down to one pussy for the rest of your life like some pathetic beta cuck, you don't need to do all of that lame old timey courtship stuff or take women on date or any of that nonsense. You don't even need to be particularly nice to them anymore, you can be a complete dick to women and they will just cope and rationalize it as being a good thing in their heads when you fuck them.
Hookup culture does NOT help women achieve their primary reproductive imperative of locking down a high value guy to protect and provide for her and any potential offspring, it actually makes it much harder for them to achieve that. But we have successfully psyoped them into thinking that the old ways pre-sexual revolution were some kind of horrific Handmaids Tale nightmare for them, so we are never going back to it. And the fact that you low value seething misogynistic incel retards are insisting that we should go back to it just helps reinforce that belief.
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>>539773960
That again is antithetical to the truth

Men who watch porn do not want to be married - as they have broken their vow
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>>539770749
what do you mean
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A rebuttal for all against the jooish influence theory as far as modern hu culture.
You're gay, retarded and probably a glowie. Also how the fuck do you think pervasive cultural influence works? It can be studied across several instances and through several industries. Even if it were to be what women and men actually want or their base form of sorts it wouldn't negate the gargantuan media beat that is jooish perversion. Also, to the Tree hugger, I see that you're coming from a place of wanting to understand but practically everything you say can be attributed to a zeitgeist of perversion influencing the population. That is to say we are unable to separate ourselves and therefore our actions, thoughts and ideologies from it. At least not entirely without mass levels of abstraction.
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>>539769581
That’s the excuse bitches use. In reality they develop it in their 20s after becoming an alpha widow
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>>539766336
You are just really bad at sex, retard.
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>>539766336
>they looked at me dirty after a night of sex
You’re a bad lay, but why did they stay the night? You’re lying that’s why. Demoralizing kike
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>>539774197
“Bpd” if you wish to apply the label, is primarily the result of sexual abuse.
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>>539770656
Nice counter-argument. Foid
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>>539774294
Jesus the man who changed the tradition of stoning women to death

Don’t think so pal
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>>539773314
The sad truth is that humans are weak creatures of opportunity. They are only as loyal as their options and this becomes harder once you enter a certain income bracket because women will began throwing themselves at you and if you were a man who was once undesirable to women and is now desirable it might be hard to resist.
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>>539774369
This happened to Kyle Richard’s as well and she doted on her husband absolutely

So what do you think-

Are the marriage vows impossible to keep? Is it all a facade?
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>>539774264
The abuse in this case is called ”he was the best I could do and he left me” most under diagnosed illness among women especially white women. It’s due to hookup culture. For every cock their ability to pair bond goes down and their mental illness go up
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>>539766514
That's the problem.
Men don't want to raise good daughters.
That's why these stupid cunts have no idea what they're doing.
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>>539770948
It's funny that Prohibition and the White Feather campaign to coerce men into the WW1 meatgrinder through public shaming, were basically the exact same people behind both.

Progressives were a very strange bunch, they did eugenics too.
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>>539774369
What else could she have done as a wife?

She provided him with Beautiful children, doted on him. Changed her religion.

Had her own money.

What else could she do?
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>>539766514
>Please god never give me a daughter
Think about it logically.
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>>539774073
Beautiful women are like bottles of beer. They are meant to be consumed and discarded after their well of freshness runs dry. A new one awaits.

Bonus Nicola picture to help you move on from Adriana Bogdanoff, who is now in a plastic surgeon's portfolio of "whoopsies."
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These worthless foids are only sad that Chad used them as a fleshlight for a night and won’t commit to them. If only they stayed within their own league.
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>>539774498
I find what you have said so utterly reprehensible I think of you as having abandoned your humanity and in that your very soul.
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>>539773891
> your brain on Jewish propaganda
>>539773850
Ya bro I wouldn’t expect to find a wife in your whore of a nation
Pakis made sure there are no virgins in your country kek
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>>539774721

Perhaps you feel this way because you are a sociopath. Which is like second rater psychopathy, as it doesn’t come with high intellect.
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>>539766282
Judging by OP I'd think it means Hook Up.
Real name is just "one night stand". I think japan calls it Nampa.
Turns out a lot of people feel miserable after sex unless they have feelings for their partner. Which is why some men refuse to seek prostitutes.
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>>539774220
Retarded faggot simp lmao. This is why you cucks get divorce raped so hard. You’re gonna commit suicide unless you wake up pal.
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>>539774774
Listen lady. Nobody gives a shit about what you find reprehensible. I suggest you put down the red wine and go find a husband. Either that or go back to tumblr with you dike friends
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>>539774764
But anon, the TV said they can have it both ways!
They’re entitled to a traditional, high value man (who is simultaneously also a cuck who will date a non-virgin), but these girls don’t have to be traditional in any way to get this mystical man! It’s the perfect deal for a young lady and totally realistic!
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>>539774866
What LLM are you based off of, memeflagger? All of your posts lack soul and are robotic in nature.
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>>539766260
>Jews and media.
What's the difference?
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>>539775057
I am not gifted enough in language to be drawing directly from a LLM
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>>539766151
This is why zoomers are sexless.
They keep coming up with bullshit to make themselves to be victims and SAD.
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>>539774994
I have been married for 15 years
Mi do not believe in divorce

However Jesus did under certain circumstances

Marriage is a work of art which transgresses through despair in the stages of early love, in order to settle into the Greek

Pragma
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>>539769353
> christcuck
Retard.
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLlSvNg8ZZug8raWfRvUQm2j2-pzWe9Iib&si=JO21m6gfWzwzyO7V
And
https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhqj8hlCFT2fWOC34_FanlZH-CUzvadDX&si=pFNMkq5uhDPAiHlC
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>>539766260
This.
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>>539766151
It’s been a thing since the 60’s. As soon as The Pill went mainstream the media started normalizing one night stands, primarily cause rich media execs(you know who) wanted even more sexual opportunities
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>>539775143
Write me an erotic short story about Adriana Bogdanoff getting cucked by a younger, much better looking Nicola Cavanis. Include details about how resentful Adriana is having gone from a 10/10 in her youthful VS modeling days to a 2/10 plastic mimicry of her former self as she has ungracefully aged into her 40's.
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>>539766315
You are quite silly indeed
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>>539771250
The problem will fix itself through demographics/ideology like you mentioned as the only people left to participate in a society are the ones who reproduce. The left is very anti-natalism.
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>>539766336
That’s with a blown out whore who has already been used and abused so much she can no longer see men as human
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>>539766151
If its with a BBC theyre happy as long as the strong bvll came inside
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