You've been lied about medieval Europe so you can easily accept your current reality as a worthless wagecuck
>>539769015not sure if a troll or an extremely retarded person
>>539769015The medieval peasant was also allowed to kill the moslem invaders.
>>539769098Peasants in Western Europe were legally prohibited from owning weapons.
>>539769015Medieval Europe operated for the most part under Feudalism, where peasants didn't own their land but were permitted to live on and work land owned by a lord or knight, who in turn reported to a king. Each level also had a military obligation to assist the level above them in a time of war. Feudalism was pre-capitalism, meaning the land owners were not trying to squeeze the peasants for every ounce of production they could. This was because peasant revolts could spell the doom of the kingdom, and because there was no real reason for them to do so. There was no yacht in Dubai they could buy, at the end of the day everyone was living in a swampy shithole with no running water or electricity. Their standard of living wasn't all that much higher than the people they lorded over, and a lot less of them developed the god complex that modern leaders seem to have where everyone beneath you is worthless goyim and there is nothing wrong with murdering and exploiting them. The majority of medieval lords were Christian, back when that actually meant something, and while they did still engage in debauchery and bullshit they were nowhere near the level of corruption of modern day politicians and buisnessmen.
>>539769015Don't look up the debt jubilee, you might hate it.
The enlightenment was a power grab by Machiavellian psychopaths, who had the nerve to declare that their system afforded the "pursuit of happiness" while leading the world into absolute misery.
>>539769159Wrong, it was mandatory for them to own weapons and train with them because the paesants were the lords militia, serfdom was not very widespread in Europe during the middle ages, you'd be far more likely to get fined if you didn't own weapons
>>539769015>peasantslol you fucking dummy
>>539769015>The average life expectancy at birth for a medieval peasant was extremely low, typically cited between 25 and 35 yearslol
>>539769015but if i work 300 days a year i wont be a peasant. i dont get it. are euros really this stupid?
>>539769637>doesn't understand what an average isZeno and Cleanthes lived to be 95 and 97 years old. Our ancestors were healthier and lived longer because they weren't being poisoned.
>>539769015Also you have less sex than a medieval peasant. Unless you are a woman or a gay
>>539769385Feudalism and monarchy are based. Democracy is gay shit for retards.
>>539769637retard
>>539769735my grandpa smoked and drank and lived to be 96. he ate mcdonalds all the time.there goes your argument.
>>539769735he doesn't realize that statistic takes into account infant mortality rate
>>539769015the holidays were elimated by the french revolutionariesthen they found they had 'excess labor' since the peons had to work much more often and so they turned their minds to extermination plansthis is a paradigm we have not yet escaped
>>539769637The natural lifespan of humans cited in the Bible and the lore of many cultures is one hundred twenty years. Native American warriors fought into their 80's.
>>539769015no, they worked in the local Lord's fields about 120 days. they were still working sun up to sun down year round just to survive.back then working 120 days for someone else was equivalent to a 30+% tax rate.think about money not in terms of the dollar amount but in terms of how many hours of labor it represents and how much and what quality of goods it can buy (relative to the normal standards of living of the time and place)
>>539769775retard
>>539769098there's lessons to learn here, eh, greek?
>>539769637This is mostly due to high infant mortality which has a positive effect, lot of weak maladaptive genes are removed when there is high infant mortality
>>539769015My life is 10 times worse than a medieval peasant. How the fuck did we get to this point?
>>539769385Too add on; Feudalism is often thought of as very unfair because you had to do what the lord or knight above you told you to, but it was much more mutually beneficial then capitalism. The lords and knights were responsible for protecting the peasants from bandits, raiders, or other townships, in exchange for a portion of whatever commodity those peasants produced. They could keep, trade, or sell all the rest. While peasants could be called up to defend their own territory, they were not professional soldiers and were not conscripted to fight large scale wars. Contrast this to today, where a larger portion of your wages are taken from you day one as taxes, and then you have to pay further tax on those same wages if you want to do anything with them, and they decrease in value over time thanks to inflation. The government does not protect you from criminal lowlifes and foreigners, you can be drafted to fight a foreign war which you have no stake in. Your labor is not used to produce a commodity which you get to sell, use or trade, it's traded for shekels, which you can only use to buy certain approved things and have no inherent value of their own. You aren't a master at your trade, who is necessary and important to a community, you're a wagecuck who produces slop for other goyim to consume. >but muh technology is better nownot related to government. everything becoming shit and evil has never been a requirement to build new things
Source: low IQ brown incel
>>539769385>the land owners were not trying to squeeze the peasants for every ounce of production they couldyou ignorant stupid fucking faggot you played a couple hours of Skyrim and now you think you know fucking anything about the middle ages... you zoomers are so absolutely fucking retarded it's insane
>>539769851White supremacy
>>539769793Your grandpa lived most of his life prior to them putting plastic and estrogen in the drinking water and forcing infants to get autism shots. My argument is supported by your additional claim. When I said poison I wasn't talking about burgers and tobacco.
>>539769548No idea where you are getting this from. In France a peasant could not legally own a sword.
>>539769385>>539769886You are right, every age have its own problems but ours are unbereable, unjust and prejudicial, it is like made by Jews... gee i wonder why
>>539769801France and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>539769930he died yesterday. how long have they been supposedly doing that?
>>539769936You are playing too much warhammer fantasy
>>539769930nobody is forced to get vaccinations. its voluntary in the us. but i got a bunch when i was in iraq in 2003. i am 61. no health issues.
>>539769015There was a CEO guy in germany that suggested having less mandatory holidays would improve the GDP.The absolute state we are in...
>>539769851We are in the TITPARADISE.
>>539769930My grandpa was also an alcoholic who let his narcissist wife manipulate and abuse their kids.
>>539769936Cite the law and year it was enacted and by whom
>>539769936levied troops used spears. swords were reserved for nobility.
>>539769915Try reading a book faggot>>539769944It's pure jew ownership, the entire modern economy is controlled by them and big surprise everything is shit for everyone who isn't a jew. It's no longer just suppression of stuff that could cause revolt and threaten the king, its active suppression of the human spirit to literally reduce the populace to soulless slaves.
>>539770139Idk, I asked AI
>>539769936It was called a Hird and as a free man you were obliged to own certain weapons and stuff like a helmet depending on your status
>>539769936Because a sword was a status symbol and used for duels and excutions. Peasants used and trained with pole arms.
If you were a farmer in medieval times and you took 215 days off, you would not have a farm anymore.
>>539769936Did a quick search and as I suspected you lied or just omitted facts out of some misquided desire to make a point. Which is it, you were wrong or you lied deliberately?>Towns and rural parishes were required by royal ordinances to maintain a arrière-ban or local militia where capable commoners had to equip themselves with basic arms (such as pikes, crossbows, or later muskets) to repel invaders or bandits.>Social Standing: While free peasants and landholders often had obligations to bear arms, strict restrictions and total disarmament policies were frequently imposed during times of peasant unrest, high political tension, or localized royal crackdowns>No idea where you are getting this fromFrom studying history for two decades
>>539769936>Peasants in Western Europe were legally prohibited from owning weapons.you're probably getting this from Messer myth, don't you?
>>539770195Try looking this up lying faggotOrdonnances des rois de France de la troisième race, vol. 12, p. 298, art. 31)
>>539769015The medieval peasant owned more than you do
This image is completely false btw and has been debunked many times. I'm not wasting my breath correcting it again.
>>539769015>150 days in a yearI'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that there was barely any work to be done during winters and fallsI'm suuuuuure.
>>539770239wrong.>sowing>harvest>choresit doesnt take that long. no wonder you never developed agriculture lol
>>539769936>sword ownershipAgain you are a lying faggotSource: The 1222 letters patent of franchise for Beaumont-sur-Oise
>>539769936The English had mandatory archery training and competitions in each village
>>539769067>not sure if a troll or an extremely retarded personPiss off shitskin animal. You have no right to participate in human discussions.
Even if the peasant's life was hard, he at least had the hope of heaven.Now, even that has been stolen from the peasant. You must believe you are a nothing but a worthless, hairless monkey, and that this wretched existence is the best it will ever get for you.See how the "enlightened" think it's amusing to heap cruelty on top of cruelty.
>>539770589The truth is always superior to a lie, memeflag. Slaves are only content when they believe paradise awaits them
>>539769851>do nothing >get exploited >keep doing nothing >keep getting exploited more and more >"wtf why is this happening??"
>>539769015365 - (52 * 2) weekends - 20 mandatory days - 12 days because I work 38H per week instead of 35H - 50 days because I work par time = 181fuck that shit. We have to hang all politicians
>>539769015I legit think most people become teachers for sheer amount of time off they get, plus the really good bennies and basically untouchable after a duration. Im 37 and my entire life all Ive ever heard is how bad they get paid, how bad the kids are, how bad this and that are, yet people still FLOCK to the damn profession. If you break it all down with summer break, spring break, winter/xmas break, Thanksgiving break, random bank holidays and weekends they are getting 4 months off a year. Inevitably I always get someone yelling how they have to grade papers at home, and make study plans and all that, but that basically them saying they are the only ones who take their work home, when plenty of people who are lucky to get 2 weeks off a year take their work home.
>>539769936>In France a peasant could not legally own a sword.This kind of broad statement is completely meaningless. Medieval European history comprises broad swaths of land and century after century of time. Swords and other weapons did get controlled in particular areas at particular times, and then later would get uncontrolled, or recontrolled, or controlled differently from another area, or get modified slightly, etc. That's without getting into the details of how strongly or effectively these rules even got enforced.
>>539769015Yeah no fucking shit. Almost everything we believe about the medieval era is propaganda from industrial era factory owners to get wagies to accept horrific living conditions in the cities. Same goes for slavery in the American South. A black slave on a plantation in Virginia had it fucking easy compared to an Irish dock worker in Boston at the time.
I don't think you can generalise the livelihood of millions of people over a thousand years across hundreds of countries, some had it better, some had it worse
>>539769936You're probably confusing being allowed to own weapons with being allowed to carry them around town.
>>539770672So then why the fuck isn't there even an earthly paradise promised anymore like the magical carefree boomer retirement?
>>539769015>>539769385A thought. most peasants were NPCs. majority of 4chan users, sans crippled, wouldn't be peasants
>>539770853>Same goes for slavery in the American South. A black slave on a plantation in Virginia had it fucking easy compared to an Irish dock worker in Boston at the time.The whole idea they just beat their slaves and stuff for fun is retarted. Thats like a farmer today slashing their tractor tires for fun. Slaves where taken care of, given a roof and food, among other stuff, hell when it all ended slaves had to be forced off lands because they didnt want to leave. Slavery is bad, but its was not nearly as bad as it was painted, im sure some blacks did get beaten, but I bet they also ran away and shit.
>>539770972if you can't trace back your lineage for 300 years in the past then you're a peasant
>>539769015Now do healthcare.
>>539770964At least post the real one
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>>539769015Total muslim death
>>539769015If the British series "Upstairs Downstairs" is at all an accurate depiction of life inside aristocratic households during the turn of the century, then going into domestic service would seem like a prudent choice for someone without many realistic options. You'd find yourself under the same roof of educated and eccentric 'betters,' learn the value of tradition, not have to worry about room and board, go on hunting excursions, possibly get top-shelf booze and wine from time to time, run a horse & carriage or a motorcar for the family, wear some nice threads, eat better food than most...
>>539769159top kek, nothing personnel
>>539769548Peasants with pitchforks is a trope for a reason. Why? They could not own swords. It wasn't just wealth, it was banned. Those swords were their lords property.
>>539769015stfu with this myth already. peasants were basically slaves and had no rights in society. guess what happens when the lord's lands are invaded? peasants are killed or crippled in order to reduce their use as the tools they were. enjoy getting a foot cut off or eyes gouged out.
>But, but no IPHONES AND VIDEO GAMES!!! ALSO NO HEALTH CARE AND DIVERSE CUISINE OPTIONS!!! SO IT WAS ACTUALLY HELL ON EARTH! POOR PEOPLE TODAY LIVE BETTER THAN MEDIEVAL KINGS!!!Why is the left like this? Why must they insist and gaslight that the past was horrible and we live in the best time of human existence right now in the present?
>>539769886Good post
>>539770864that's assregards, ass spotter
>>539771582You're free to live as a serf any day you want. Why don't you?
>>539771527Sword is not a weapon of war unless we are talking niche two handers from late medieval era but yes it is easy to take off the fork part of the pitch fork and put on a billhook. Also what you are saying was never a universal law in Europe, most paesants could own swords if they had the means to purchase them, I am aware of a german law which said paesants could not own double edged swords though but could own single edged long blades. Name a spesific time and place where there was a uniform ban on owning swords? That sounds ridiculous to me
>>539770972>wouldn't be peasantsMaybe. It would largely depend on the era and the region. I've no doubt that given time and the right circumstance the best of us could rule nations and also become the greatest bakers. But you need to bare in mind that our being anons is entirely moulded by our surroundings during our formulative years; of which talmud vision and the early internet did both good and irreparable damage to our psyches thereby accidentally breaking the (((curse))) inflicted upon us.And by following your logic of peasants being majority NPC, without the support of fellow anons, the chance to truly better one's self and mind is utterly and absolutely confined within the constraints of divine luck. Your brother anon from another mother could be a stones throw away or a month's journey.
>>539769015You're telling me farmers didn't work when they couldn't plant or harvest crops? Incredible.
>>539771860>You're free to live as a serf any day you want. Why don't you?You mean the government will grant me a huge plot of land to farm and build a home on? Where do I sign up?
>>539770972IQ is higher today than it was in the medieval age, so your average peasant was likely one standard deviation lower than a modern White person.The peasants loved the goyslop of their age, and would find toilet and crass sexual humor to be very funny. They also ate up political humor, and loved mockery of the church and nobility if it could be gotten away with. They really were the most basic normies out there, but their superstitions is what kept a lot of them in check. 4channers would find them insufferable. The people on here are closer to monks than peasants.
>>539771865Swords were used in every war in every century on every continent until like 1950 you fag lmao
>>539771582If you've declared your system to be the teleological "end of history", then you must necessarily portray everything that came before as worse.Ironically, this results is a system that is the most conservative of all. Since we exist in the best of all words, there is simply no need for any further reform.If anyone finds himself not enjoying it, he must have an individual pathology, for which he must take psychiatric drugs.
>>539771999A landlord would be happy to oblige you in your desire for manual labor in exchange for zero wage and a place to stay. Get outside of whatever one of the 4 Canadian cities you live in and talk to a farmer.
>>539772171You shouldn't discuss these things before you have a basic understanding of medieval times, swords were secondary weapons 99% of the time in every single medieval battle, only romans used short swords as a primary weapon of war. The sword was/is mostly for self defence and symbolism hence the cross guard, if me and you fight I will kill you 90% of the time with a halberd or a spear even if you have much more skill than I do
>>539771025The horror stories all come out of the Mississippi delta where everyone was broke as fuck, the land sucked for farming, the economy was just slave markets and shipping. That’s where they sold off all the uppity slaves for big losses to broke retards who couldn’t grow dick for shit and so everything was just chaos and squalor. A slave in a rich plantation closer to the north would have a real job. They’d develop skills they could use in town and earn their own income in off time. Enough to buy their own freedom and land and slaves of their own.And overall it was just a slower pace of living. People act like all these wagies slaves peasants and serfs were all yearning to become Ivy League professors and publish books that would make the NYT bestseller list and then go on vacation in Tahiti.They were farmers. They grew food, they ate food. Free men, serfs, slaves, peasants, they all just did the same shit every day for the most part except the aristocracy.
>>539770438free market is the only reason we have work to do in the winter, we have to justify the existence of pointless companies that serve only to distract us from our ultimate goal as humans which is simply having a healthy family.
>>539772349> swords were secondary weapons 99% of the time in every single medieval battleRight, so it was an essential weapon of war.Buddy got lost in the sauce of his favorite nerd ass history YouTuber.
>>539770580What do you think they had to do during the winter when there were no crops to work on? 150 days a year is a growing/working season in most of Europe. They needed to spend the other hours/months they had to grow their own crops to actually eat and live on the side. The fuck, you think they were fed during those times too? The digital information age wasn't there. Grow the same fucking thing since your grandparents, eat the same fucking thing, can't learn how to do anything new because your town nearby has the same fucking books telling you to grow the same fucking thing and maybe how to combat diseases/pests. Other than your community, there is no social net. An off-season could kill your entire family from starvation.
>>539769015that's how long our farmers work, you just work 16 hours per day, seven days per week for those 6 months.
>>539772521Essential would be your primary weapon, what you are claiming is kind of like saying a pistol is essential to a modern infantryman which it isn't
All the great cathedrals of Europe were built in this era of surplus time and labor, devoted to god. They can't replicate the craftmanship these days of what people used to produce because it's not cost effective.
>>539769015What is this psyop trying to make people think peasants lived better lives than we do right now? Peasants had a thousand other problems to worry about than the amount of PTO they got from their boss.
>>539771172What that thing you can’t afford and don’t have access to?
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>>539772790Took the redditor like 3 posts to get pedantic and "well AKTCHUALLY..." nonsense in this thread.If it wasn't essential, they wouldn't have made and carried them into every battle on every continent in every century except for this one.
>>539772638True in the Netherlands my relatives were farmers and fishermen, in winter they tended the animals, rain or shine.
>>539771529Nobody really died in medieval wars. It was like a hobby among elites
>>539772791>because it's not cost effectiveThat's a cope. The truth is that they actually can't do it. Ancient man was more intelligent and skilled than modern man. Modern man is a self indulgent materialist with no work ethic, no love for beauty and no education in the virtues.
>>539772868They objectively did live better lives though, high birth rates, strong social bonds/communities and an active lifestyle is absent in most of the modern world. Those are the things that make most people happy
>>539772868Like what?>inb4 muh Black DeathOne brief epidemic is the only thing people thing that matters during a 700 year period.
>>539772916Believe whatever you wish, I dont give a shit, if you ever decide to look into the medieval period you will find out the facts yourself, swords were not essential weapons of war in medieval times, what I did was not pedantic it was meant to be educational for you which it seems has unfortunately failed
>>539772373You’re close to getting it but there is a higher purpose to family and community.
>>539772359Whats the fucking deal with Mississippi bringing the collective average down for America? They are only good and sucking at everything
>>539773145From Aristotle onwards, there were those who asked the question: "what makes a happy life". So, even if they weren't able to achieve it practically, there's proof at least that the topic was one of concern to thinking people.In modernity, no one even bothers to ask the question anymore. It is simply palmed off on "chemical inbalances".
>>539773001There are people capable, but they are few and far between. You are correct, there is no training because there is no desire to produce beauty. Now everyone is a coomer playing video games doomscrolling instead of producing exquisite works of art.
>>539772098Show me the 700 year old IQ tests you speak of
>>539769159>ignoring that in that even in rare times of weapons bans people were doing loopholes with the german Messer and sharpened garden tools.>hunting bows and cross bows werent considered weapons>merc work was legal and you could hire your bros to go pillage a hostile nation with little to no red tapeAll of that without even covering quality of produce and meats, availability to build a home basically wherever you justy needed to give a heads up to your lord.
>ITT: retards who don't realize that the medieval peasants did more labor preparing, setting up and tearing down the events for these holidays than they ever did workingthe church wasn't paying them for the labor, either, you fucking knoblovers
>>539773308I choose to believe that swords were weapons of war, based on how popular they were used as weapons in wars everywhere
>>539773434>what makes a happy lifeCan really only be answered individually. What one person loves another person hates, and what one hates another person loves. The fact you truly cant find what makes your personal life happy without people looking down at you is crazy to me. If it doesn't fit the normal take your are defective basically
>>539773434The question is still asked but happiness is framed from the liberal perspective which is ofcourse completely incorrect because liberalism is an individualist ideology when in reality humans are herd/pack animals to a very large degree
>>539769015no, you are lying now.
>>539769015>leftist doesn't understand what a growing season isTypical
>>539773600Checked, you can also choose to believe you become a woman if you cut off your cock and balls off but I dont recommend it because its false. Earlier you said essential weapons of war aswel, to me essential means that the entire endevour would not work if that particular thing is absent, for example fuel is essential for cars to be able to move you from point A to point B etc
>>539769015Lol. Where do you get this bullshit from? Serfs had it completely shitty. Adam Smith wrote in Wealth of Nations how serfs life looked like in 18th century. He was the one who coined "slave is not a good worker" and that "a happy worker is a good worker". Not some church faggots, who were using paesants like cattle. Which is even described in Wealth of Nations. If you had nothing to do there was no food you couldn't go to other village or city to work without bishops blessing. And bishop got money for how big diocesy was so he didn't allow it. And so on.
>>539773899I came to the word essential based entirely off your explanation of why swords aren't weapons of war AT ALL.That's how bad your argument is here, it convinced me that swords were even more essential weapons of war than I had previously thought.Meanwhile you're still trying to say that they weren't weapons of war at all.
>>539773600Akchually in late medieval period when plate armour got more popular swords were just decorative. Maces and halberds took its place. Even some swordmanship schools started showing how to fight plate armour by grabbing sword by blade and using it as a mace.
>>539771999>will grant meare you clinically retarded or just plain stupid? Serfs owned nothing, not even the harvest.
make Evropa Evropean again. its the only way
>>539769015lmao, im a homesteader and i am busy as fuck. every single day all summer i spend in the garden or the kitchen. planting, weeding, watering, harvesting and preserving is alot of work. i use wood for heat so i have to get firewood every year wnd spend an hour a day tending to my animals. during winter is the only time their is any downtime and i spend that hunting and fishing. most people quit this lifestyle after a couple years and go back to the hustle and bustle because they cant cut it. there is nothing holding you back from living this life style, so just do it.
>>539769915>IT'S DA ZOOOOMAAARSSQuit sperging out over age groups retard
>>539769548serfdom was the norm since Diocletian what are you talking about
>>539775490it was always supposed to be like that
>>539775323you have to do everything alone, medieval peasants had 12 children.
>>539775876no they didnt, 50% didnt survive birth and 25% of women didnt either retard.
>>539772373start a company and take the winter off. lead the way and show the world how its done
>>539772638that's why you have these things called food stores (storage) and make things like grain and also hunt during the winter. yes, your community, the grouping of homes right next to eachother that all work towards that goal of surviving and then secondly providing whatever resource their lord dictates. You think they ALL acted like your obese mexinigger walmart manager for being guys trying to build up a village? Every story you hear is scary and fantastical cuz usually those historical moments are during times of peril in a nation or during a war. SCRAPE THAT JEW CUM OFF YOUR BRAIN.
>>539769443Everything was fine untill the shitskins were considered people.
>>539773558>oy vey hiking trip why i gotta carry this tent all the way>oy vey mom i dont wanna set up the christmas tree you do it>oy veywho you calling a knoblover, nosesucker? common folk didn't have literature to create or digital entertainment lmfao or anything else. people setting that shit up is the same exact thing as like, modders for video games or shit.>"waaah i have to liiiift :("tell us you're a fat cunt that pales at physical exertion without telling us.>implying our cornfed southern boys of today are even built of the same stuffs as medieval peasants that toil themselves until the job is done
>>539775974and that didn't matter because the only entertainment back then was fucking your wife, retard. 50% of 24 children dying makes 12 children.
>>539769443You have noble lineage too?
>>539769735Why are Burgermutts always the dumbest posters on this site?
>>539769930both my grandpa's supported 8 irish twins, on both sides, with stay at home wives. both had only a high school education.
