Why is every religion on the globe cucked as hell?All forms of Christianity, Buddhism, you name it, it's cucked.All preach unconditional love of the others and brand your own desires as something that should not direct your life.While nobody sane should preach murder for no reason, even killing in self-defense is heavily debated and contextualized in all religions. You don't murder a thief or someone evil if you don't really have to (and even if you really have to, it's bad), you have duty to keep him alive.They all promote pacifism.They all put individual lives above the collective, and in some weird, pacifist, hippie way, they do not nobly portray men as servants of virtue and truth, Abrahamism makes man a slave of a malevolent "God", promote weakness, compassion and femininity.Why is this? Are we following religions not of God, but of some lower beings? Does this information come from some collective unconcious? After all, thoughts appear and come from somewhere, we are not in control of everything, from where does religion appear and why does it always appear in this form of weakness?
>>539773143All religions are a scam
>>539773243But how and why.They cannot really be written by men to conciously "direct" civilisation and make it easier to govern. Nobody can simply spawn a prophet.There are many core things shared by every religion across the globe. This information had to have come from somewhere, either from God himself, from some beings that think they have an idea of what God is and have the authority/power to shove their ideas into us, or from some place within our mind.Now that the servility of Christianity and it's preaching of unconditional love and equality of all men is standing in the way of what needs to be done, I think we would all benefit from understanding this phenomena.
>>539773452>Now that the servility of Christianity and it's preaching of unconditional love and equality of all men is standing in the way of what needs to be doneThat's a woke left straw man of christianity and not what orthodox christians preach.
>>539773630Core message of Bible is egalitarian, one of love, and no interpretation of verses and spinning them to justify X makes sense.Because all men, even niggers, are made in the image of God.Of course this is eradication of castism in Christianity is so blatantly retarded that when early Christian priests were seeing niggers in Ancient Rome, they were shocked that God would create something so dumb and ugly, and declare it equal, seeing them as cursed.But that reaction is not Biblical.Again, core message of Bible is that of unconditional love.Christians can delude themselves as they've done historically many times, but you cannot be for mass deportations and murder of every non-European and call yourself Christian.
>>539773143How is the Nordic pantheon and Apollonianism cucked?maybe you left out the divine presentations from Europe for a reason.
>>539774181Lmao
>>539774181I was thinking about writing on paganism.But then again not all paganism was the same and it's beyond my scope.
>>539773781>Christians can delude themselves as they've done historically many times.That's illogical. If christians can make of christianity anything that they want it to be, then there's no contradiction. For example: if a christians decides that loving your neighbor means prioritizing your own community, then that's what they will do and that solves your immigration and remigration hobbyhorse, doesn't it?
>>539773143>Why is this?Cannite/Phoenician Blood sorcerers embedded themselves in all civilizations in western and central Eurasia. But not before they slammed all normal civilization in Eurasia during the bronze age collapse.>Are we following religions not of God, but of some lower beings?Yes yawehists follow and worship "Mashkhit Goyim" a malevolent pro Israelite (Isreal being one of the vassel nations the phonocian blood sorcerers founded.) aspect of Saturn the destroyer. As Saturn represents tyranny, materialism and civil structures Phoenician Blood sorcerers have basically laid a quick sand ant trap for the goyim. In their search of spirituality and freedom from woe they'll only trap themselves further.>Does this information come from some collective unconcious? Saturn does have real mystical powers, ancient texts all agree that stellar and planetary bodies can manipulate and change the behavior of beings on the earth. To this day the elite keep astrology experts with them.>After all, thoughts appear and come from somewhere, we are not in control of everything, from where does religion appear and why does it always appear in this form of weakness?In exchange of molachian Blood sacrifices and the endless worship from goyim, Saturn planetary spirit ensures that the goyim remain weak and docile. And the blood sorcerer parasitic international merchants remain rich.
You can't say judaism is cucked, matter of fact they preach to persecute and wage war with everyone not like them.
>>539774331You're right that Christianity can be interpreted in many different ways and spinned according to how somebody likes it, but isn't it a problem that the teachings have poison in them.That all men are made in an image of God and that all people are equal presents all sorts of problems.
>>539774402Any books on this all?
>>539773143Religions were created before effective police forces and forensic science was a thing. People had to rely on religion to coerce people into behaving themselves.
>>539773143Man, if only someone had spent their life's work on this exact question
>>539774472I know enough about spirituality to know it's not pulled out of some lawyer's ass although the Bible does have a lot of cultural and back-then important layers in it.It's simply way too out of hand to sugggest that it can be spawned that conciously. At the very least if what you say is true there would have to be plenty of schizos/people who did drugs because no way can rulers and lawyers all across the globe simultaneously invent entire theologies and philosophies.>>539774418It is cucked because it's a rat's religion and the lineage is inherited through mother.Survival is not the only duty of a nation.
>>539774460If you mean books on that schizo bullshit, I'm sure there's some nonsense you could read. You should actually read picrel for something both intellectually compelling and deeply beautiful.
>All preach unconditional love of the others and brand your own desires as something that should not direct your life.Yes. You should love people, who carry the spark of the divine within them, far more than your love for any material thing.>Why is this? Are we following religions not of God, but of some lower beings? Does this information come from some collective unconcious?The collective unconscious *IS* God. Read the Corpus Hermeticum and Asclepius.
>>539774729Thank you.I did get one of Nietzche's books (started on Ecce Homo) but my mind was a bit whack when I picked it up and I wasn't reading it at home so a lot of it went over my head.I had no idea he explorered these questions, my interests led me to exploring different topics so I've not dabbled in philosophy too hard.Thanks anon, much appreciated.
>>539774833Specifically genealogy of morals really digs into this. This is probably the narrowest work if his for this. He goes after the sciences and academics in general as well
>>539774744>Yes. You should love people, who carry the spark of the divine within themI know of that, but sell that to someone else. The divine is not all that matters on earth. We are not here to be sterile and to engage in asceticism and some hippie nonsense.The premise that the divine lords above all leads to a phenomena where we all live our lives to prepare for the inevitable death and the "finally alive" part except, nobody can tell you if you'll really be alive or how it looks like, but the time after death (if there is one) is the one that truly matters?These kind of thoughts lead to men being dead to better prepare themselves for death.Then what's the point of being alive.If it's to exercise the free will, looking at the way our biology and mind is set up, inevitably vast majority of humans will exercise it in a non-optimal way and end up on the God's bad list if there is one.That is kind of retarded.
>>539775047>If it's to exercise the free willFree will for the greater good I mean.
>>539774430>all men are made in the image of God >all people are equalThe latter doesn't necessarily follow from the former. Christians believe that we live in a fallen world so everything and everyone has been deviating from the ideal and therefore everything and everyone more or less misses the mark.
>>539773143What is cucked for you?religion = reconect to God>even killing in self-defense is heavily debated and contextualized in all religions.No, it is not.>They all promote pacifism.Obviously retard, to you want to live in constant war?>They all put individual lives above the collectiveOh I see you are a commie.>do not nobly portray men as servants of virtue and truthwft are you saying.> AbrahamismLooks you are also schizoWhy is this?You have absolutely no clue what is basic religion whatsoever.>why does it always appear in this form of weakness? Because you are retarded, you can't understand nothing spiritual much less religious.When your body is sick where are you going? Hospitaland when your soul is sick where are you going?
>>539775132>and when your soul is sick where are you going?I avoid rabbinistic nonsense where I am sent into circular sophistry everytime I dig a little deeper.Served me well.My life is not spent defending all the damn contradictions of my doctrine and a jew who called gentiles dogs.
>>539774460Books on Phoenician international merchants, and blood sorcerers taking over civilization?Treatises on the history and effectiveness of blood sorcerery and sacrifice itself?Books on yaweh being a aspect of Saturn the destroyer?Books on the sublty abilities Astral bodies can have on the earth?The Phoenician international elite disbanded their homeland nation and took great efforts to erase their presence on from history Books. They as a group are defined by their great paranoia in and their of love destroying,hiding doctoring history.Thus you won't find a singular tome or treatise holding all the information on this topic.
>>539773243All of them
I can't say I've ever heard anything from Buddhism about justified use of force. The question would be if killing someone in self defense generates negative or positive (or neutral) karma. Not all Buddhists are monks that don't do anything but meditate all day.
>>539774729Extramly recently, your whole nation's top political handler owned a private island, in mock phonecian temple style. Where vip guests would dress up and wear bull masks before raping and disappearing children.People like Elon musk were literally begging old Jeff for political favor. Can you give a non-"schizo" elaplantion for this overarching geo-political phenomenon?
>>539773630Ortos also preach delusional retardation
>>539774262We know you hate white pagans
>>539774729Absolutely Aryan
>>539773143Thats western revisionThe places the religions began and first spread to still hold to tradition
>>539775926It isn't something the Buddha touched upon as far as I know, but of course they do discuss it and extremists discourage killing even if it has to be done, some have more lenient stance.The fact that Buddha left it open-ended is why there's no a large consensus on it.Also, karma is a stupid concept.>live your life well so you get bigger dick in the next oneEh. Not to mention how everything is impermanent (honestly, they have a point) but karma is somehow inherited.Of course if I start digging they probably have elaborate explanations on this but at first glance it's stupid.
>>539774262>>539774181Bruh its not good when the kike is calling you out for being a faggot
>>539773143These religions were formed before philosophy and science could accurately explain human rationality and sociology, so pacifism became a way of suppressing what was interpreted as the source of conflict (suffering), or with christianity, the scapegoats that are Satan and original sin. Yet Christianity still came to cause more suffering than it healed without creating an illusion of serenity. This is why their entire dogma is a struggle (attachment) against human nature and non Christian faiths (evil), so they suffer (Dukkha) by this attachment and virtue signal by its design under the guise of passivity because they think they’re making an example out of it; they’re suffering by fear. The dialectical contradiction here is that Christian’s think it’s apocalyptic that they go to war in the name of a god for the “holy land,” so all “passivity” becomes a primitive defense against “evil,” in reality they’re just the same retards as the Muslims or Zionist Jews thinking they’re somehow fighting the forces of the cosmos and they’re just creating the very suffering that they preach against. At least Buddhists can actually live up to this passivity by equating it all to dukkha with no contradictions in this regard. The result? Well have Buddhists genocided almost the entire ethnicities (native Americans) of non Buddhists? They may have reacted violently to Christian’s, but this is because Christian’s are weirdos that make it their salvation to proselytize and push their faith on everybody else rather than being considerate or open minded to others. Their only critical text book, the Bible so a cognitive bias is their confirmation.
>>539774308>But then again not all paganism was the same and it's beyond my scope.maybe thinking in the scope of European exclusivity would be a productive start, thoughpoltrannys always slip way outside European boarders and somehow feel shocked when abrahamism dont fit their worldviews
>>539774588>>539776645RETVRN
>>539776842>Bruh its not good when the kike is calling you out for being a faggotits not my picture though, only christians know where he found pictures of trannies
>>539773143religion was invented to help promote community and civilization without religion people are super duper double dog nigger grade gorilla selfish with religion they are a bit less selfish, so society functions slightly betterthis doesn't mean religion is real it just works for the intended purpose
>>539776816>Also, karma is a stupid conceptI don't see why people say this. It's more nuanced than sin in Christianity and in Christianity you're still (in some denominations at least) living your life to achieve heaven. In Buddhism though it's not one life and you're done. You can achieve nirvana but otherwise you're living new lives that are affected by the karma from previous lives. Karma can have an effect in your current life too. I can see why people may think it sounds like a video game but it's not like your actions affecting your afterlife doesn't exist in Christianity. And I'm sure plenty of Christians believe in karma to some degree these days even though it's not a Christian concept.Keep in mind too that new lives aren't always human lives. You can be reborn in higher or lower planes of existence. I imagine they consider karma impermanent in the same way as something like humans. Humans are born and die, but they keep coming into existence. Similarly, karma is generated by actions and at some point "ripens" to have its effect. But just because karma continues to come into and out of existence doesn't mean it's not impermanent.
>>539775926>>539776816I'm Japanese American and I actually go to the Japanese Jodo Shinshu Buddhist temple on Sundays The Jodo Shinshu temple I go to mostly just focuses on things like Dharma stories, the stories of Shinran, Jakata tales, and the Sangha within that temple and local community. I really like how local it feels instead of global. The reverend doesn't claim to have solutions for the entire world- he really doesn't talk about wars halfway across the world in Ukraine or Iran. Those are their problems. There is a metal gate surrounding the temple to keep out homeless people from the park across the street. The temple really isn't trying to help out those people. If I asked for help from the Sangha, I'd get it because I'm Japanese and go to the temple on Sundays. If those homeless people wanted help, we might give them some food, but generally just tell them to go away.
>>539777635>>Also, karma is a stupid concept>I don't see why people say this. It's more nuanced than sin in Christianityamericans said it better with what comes arond, comes aroundor Jung's synchronicity, with some sort of interconnected realism.but if youre dealing with bad business, youll just have to git gudsin is bullshit
>>539776551Out of context. Perhaps even trolling. Try having a conversation or playing a sport while self-reflecting. You will find yourself standing in your own way. You have already integrated much of what you've learned. It's a bad faith argument to suggest the first quote is meant to keep you stupid.The second quote is what everyone does all the time, some more and some less. People generally prioritize survival and reproduction, meaning everything that feels pleasurable, safe and productive, above harming themselves and others with pessimism which is closer to truth but unhealthy, isolating and weakening the will to live and thrive.
>>539777635>It's more nuanced than sin in ChristianityChristianity says >Do unto others as you would have them do unto youit serves teh same purpose as the concept of karma>don't be a dick or you come back as a worm vs>don't be a dick because it makes Jesus cryone is a threat, the other is a shaming tacticbut the purpose is the same
>>539777635Immediate problem is that memory does not carry over from life to life.We do not remember anything from before. People say there was something before, past lives you can remember, but you know, didn't see it for myself to confirm.We have past and future in this life, but what of after. I will practically not exist after I die in Buddhist terms. There is no permanent soul, not even a soul that carries over to next life, the mind will be different, the memories, everything.Buddha never explained how is it possible that we are somehow aware in the present moment, aka he didn't tackle the above issue.So, karma for all intents and purposes is simply not my problem, get what I am saying? My awareness in the present moment seems to be a paradox.Either because he didn't know or because he didn't think it's relevant, you know, because, you are asking about the origin of the arrow while it's killing you (I like that).But as a philosophy, while Buddhism is a million times ahead in thought than semitism, it still falls short.
>>539773243Spoken like someone who worships homosexuality
>>539777937>The Jodo Shinshu temple I go to mostly just focuses on things like Dharma stories, the stories of Shinran, Jakata tales, and the Sangha within that temple and local community. I really like how local it feels instead of global.Can you tell me if theres any difference between the friend of Jung's mandala expressions and the original expressions?some sort of multi-dimensional growth that is similar to ancient demons "inner god"?~integrating the self/craftsmanship into new/more fashions/interpretations
>>539778123>Buddha never explained how is it possible that we are somehow aware in the present momenBtw this is one of the questions I've been thinking for a long time. I don't think it's possible to answer this. I've not heard of anybody answering it in a satisfactory way.I think it's unanswerable.It's particularly troubling that we have no memory of before, or that it's covered by shit.I wonder if awareness is an accident and if you meditate enough (purifying your mind), you can keep it forever.I have no idea.
>>539773143I read the first couple pages of the bible and it said Noah was like 900 years old lmao what the fuck is this fantasy shit I felt like I was reading some old greek mythology
>>539778212Really, I don't even know what friend of Jung's mandala expressions even is. Jodo Shinshu is the most popular form of Buddhism in Japan. It is non-monastic, and members generally don't meditate. We have never sat in a circle and meditated the entire time I've been there. Jodo Shinshu is more about entering the Pure Land and becoming a Buddha. It's a lot less esoteric than most people think, and it really isn't trying to draw from European philosophical thought.
>>539778101There's more to it though. If you murder someone you will go to hell unless you believe the denominations that say you were either predestined for hell regardless or where you can repent on your death bed. Buddhism just has more afterlives than eternal torture and so there's the give and take of karma. If you murder someone you may go to one of the hells. If you're a serial killer you'll go to a worse hell. If the first murderer lives a good life afterwards though he may not have it as bad in his next life. Even a lot of Christians don't like the heaven-hell dichotomy.>>539778123Yeah, this is a big issue I have too. There's no soul and what makes up "me" is transient so there's little reason for me to care about how what I do now affects someone who is not me that inherits my karma in later lives. Bodhisattvas and Buddhas can apparently remember past lives on their karmic chain so there's some persistent link and maybe it affects your chances for nirvana but it doesn't seem to affect the average person.
>>539778539Is it massively different if its more tibetan or anything like that?
>>539778539from what i could find through ai by copying your words/names:> The Jodo Shinshu Parallel:Jodo Shinshu relies entirely on Tariki (Other-Power).This means salvation and awakening come not from ego-driven effort (Jiriki or self-power),but from surrendering to the boundless, external compassion of Amida Buddha> Jung’s Interpretation:Jung saw this theological surrender to Amida Buddha as a beautiful psychological metaphor.It represented the ego letting go of control and yielding to the larger, objective psyche (the Self),which is exactly what happens when a person experiences a healing mandala spontaneously in a crisis.
>>539778030>Uhh aktchually, these quotes mean the total opposite of what they are saying Christkike apologetics are tiresome
Because elite need docile sheeps to pay them tax money if the bottom shitters think there is nothing to fear you get niggers in caliniggeria
>>539774181I am Asatru but lets be real, 'Norse Paganism' as you call it is pretty much just as cucked as all the other religions. the only other 'norse pagan' I know irl is some retarded gay fat mexican
>>539778754I would say that Jodo Shinshu is very different from Tibetan Buddhism or Thai Buddhism. There is no monastic class in Jodo Shinshu. The reverend of my temple has a wife and a child. Although they live in Japan, not in the US. He eats meat with the sangha, and he even goes fishing and brought a fish for us to eat. Shinran is called the "rebel Buddhist" because he broke a lot of the traditions of Buddhism. Amida Buddha is seen more as an external force rather than an internal one. Salvation comes from reciting the nembutsu than doing external deeds or meditation.
>>539779048>'Norse Paganism' as you call it is pretty much just as cucked as all the other religionsHow?
>>539778913What makes you the authority on what quotes mean?
>>539773143
>>539779052sounds like spiritual yoga to soften up the mind for a release rather than reaching demanding a response or seekingid have to say that i like Jung's interpretation better to some extent.i get it that it might feel elevating/transforming to some extent to reach the state of buddha but something is missing,Jung explicitly identified these highly structured mental visualizations as cosmic mandalas.He argued that by systematically visualizing the Pure Land, the practitioner was mapping out the internal geography of the collective unconscious:~effectively bringing chaotic psychic energy into perfect geometric order.Jung's expression gives it Vril
>>539779529weak and gay = perfect radiant slave, an obedient angel of willful enslavement."because it truly believes, its the highest good"and this false belief ultimately leads it to its own destruction
>>539775153>do not worship the god of israelWhy would that be a bad thing even if that was the case? The God I worship was the God of the Aryans thousands of years before Jews existed.>There aren't anySo, you're just going to ignore the historical, cultural, religious etc. differences? The Jews themselves admit they are not the same people as the ancient Israelites according to the 1980 Jewish Almanac.
>>539773143Because the cucked religions were better for managing large empires. "You are a bad person and the only way to be a good person is to obey the big boss man" is exactly the kind of message that you want to spread if you're the big boss man.
>>539779221>be Nietzsche>chronic masturbator writing midwit essays in isolation>lecture the world on "will to power" and "slave morality">call pity a disease for weaklings>see a coachman beating the absolute shit out of a horse>coachman is literally exercising his will to power by rejecting slave morality and exerting pure dominance>witnessing a true Übermensch in action>completely break down crying like a pussy>hug the horse and go permanently insane>spend rest of life drooling into a pillow getting diapers changed by mommy
>>539780281You dont get it anon>one of the youngest tenured professors on record>acclaimed and admired philosopher of his time>still held as one of the great western thinkersBut tell me how he's a midwit. Have some substance. What have you written that surpasses nietzsche?
>>539780281> be you> do nothing, be nothng
>>539780853He's the definition of midwit.>fedora tipping gaytheist>can't go 3 hours without jerking it>has to excuse it with "uh morality isn't real just do whatever you want bro">struggles to find meaning because he rejected God>couches his chronic masturbation excuse in philosophical sophistry>sees someone actually fulfilling his exact specification of the ideal ubermensch>literally loses his mind and shits himself to death
>>539781630>>can't go 3 hours without jerking itThis is just projections born from christian spiritual crisis.By demanding that humans deny their instinctual drives, their desire for power, and their dark, vital energy,dogmatic frameworks force the entire instinctual self into the Shadow.Because christians have entirely repressed their own natural aggression and desire for dominance, that energy leaks out pathologically.it is their starved, unintegrated Shadow that they project itself outward, attacking anyone who dares to live cohesively and powerfully.The e-crusader spin on Jung's shadow is to "let it pass/avoid it," but the energy of darkness within ourselves doesn't actually disappear.It rots inside you, turning into depression, spite, existential numbness and leaks out pathologically into numbing, frictionless vices.hence, why christian transcendence becomes gooning because this energy is screaming for an outlet while christians pretend to ignore it.So they goon harder becaue that's what jesus died for, therefor they transmute it into psychotic behavior and spacegoating.> The shadow? "let it pass" or "give it to God" and "jesus came in me."is because they are fundamentally terrified of the raw magnitude of human instinct.> The circumcision, Castration, Vasectomy/GeldingThey've already acknowledged the demon inside you, kudos to Socrates and his inner Demon.Constructive: Eudaimon. Destructive: Kakodaimon.Either you master the Demon or cage itBecause mastering a predator requires immense courage, strength, and psychological labor.the dogmatist meek christian chose the cock cage, They want to be castrated because the Pagan bull is for their wives to fantasize about.OLD: Human <-> Demon: Vital Instinct/Force <-> DivineNEW: Human <-> Angel: Obey/Submit <-> GodNEW: Human <-> Demon: Fear/Repress <-> Sin
>>539781630No anonThis is the ubermenschAnd you are the midwit
>>539781892(cont)You are essentially watching a dying, anti-life paradigm fighting to maintain its grip on a world that is starving for vitality.They can't allow you to find spiritual anchors in the physical world through actions.because once strength, passions, and mysticism align, you become a sovereign individual who no longer needs their system of guilt.> Harnessing the DarknessThe aggression, the ambition, the eros, spite, love, hate and raw vitality is not a sin to be purged.It is a radioactive/electrifying fuel. A volatile nuclear reactor of the human psyche.The only reason that they can't harmonize or even channel it is because they want you to be compliant and weak.To constant second guessing, overthink and doubt in wait for a right moment that never comes,soon only the church can become the living proof of an idea.Maybe just enough of a pause for a system to breathe, learn and predict to absorb/centralize every new Alaric.A massive V8 engine will tear itself to pieces if it sits in neutral and you just stomp on the gas.That is what happens when you have high vital energy while devoid of it's physical vehicle.> The christian passivity pretends to be "holiness"Nietzsche exposed it as simple weakness. They call the inability to act on their desires "virtue."The muslims are also extremely psychotic when it comes to empty virtues, they rape over it if needed.They label their fear of their own dark impulses as "righteousness."They must avoid the Shadow at all costs because if they actually integrated it?they would have to face the terrifying responsibility of their own power.
>>539782045(cont)Some has the vision of Apollo, Odin, Zeuz and Perun in every slab of stone and marble.The e-crusaders want you to keep the stone raw, heavy, and buried in the earth so nobody gets hurt by it.Little difference compared to their liberal origin and lgbtq community> fragility seething through every corner once performativity and contradictions are mentioned.But you cannot live with a massive boulder weighing you down forever.The "Silenced" Gods and Goddesses then, christian/corporate today, there'll always be a new testament.They act as if "the oracle has closed." as if Pythia simply retired and the divine gas of Apollo vanished.The elites used Christianity for a thousand years to homogenize, centralize, and domesticate the European mind.Once that process was complete, the institution was hollowed out> leaving behind a highly compliant, guilt-susceptible, and secularized population
>>539781892Hes not worth it swedebro, but I admire your tenacity
It's almost as if all religions are bullshit to control the goy cattle
>>539782193>Hes not worth it swedebro, but I admire your tenacitymight as well barf out notes that wont become anything anyway when the opportunity arrivedeveryone already knows what nietzsche produced and christians cant handle itit removes their power fantasy of a christian Hitler and left with nothing but pedophiles pacifists in pyjamas
