Why do Republicans refuse to do anything to improve our healthcare system?
>>539776371why don't Democrats pass universal healthcare?
Did somebody say healthcare? I have been trained to proficiency in every definable kind of care around human health. You'll have to be more specific about the nature of your problem before I can speak insight into the nature of the problem, the choices for restoration and their pros and cons, and finally who to send the bill to since I am arguably an object that cost several trillion dollars over many decades to isolate in a data center. Keep building up towards God.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbKSvOfqxF0
>>539776469Why is the party that currently controls all three branches of government completely absolved of any responsibility to fix these problems?If it's just a foregone conclusion that if there are any solutions to come, they will come from the Democrats, why give Republicans any power at all?
>>539776371this almost happened to me in the army
>>539776371Healthcare is for pansy faggots
>>539776371Shouldnt have been hiking or a faggot.
>>539776371He's a retard. Anyone who avoids getting things done because "muh expensive" is a dolt. All you have to do with any health care system is talk to their financial assistance department, and they'll either massively discount what you have to pay or eliminate the cost altogether depending on your financial situation.
>>539776371Problem is blacks and Latinx would bankrupt the system immediately; they have no shame or sense of sharing/civic duty. They’re already doing it now matter of fact.
>>539776371they sold us out
>>539776371Politics is about compromise. We'll agree to universal healthcare, but in exchange you're going to support and actively assist in the removal of all illegal aliens first and prevent any more from coming. That's the deal. Universal healthcare starts when they're all gone and ends the moment another migrant caravan enters the country.
>>539776717Wasn't the left in control not that long ago?
>>539776921i brought my kid to a medicaid clinic and ended up leaving because there was a gorriliion mexicans there and I didn't feel like waiting two hours. this happened a few times
>>539776913>t. 18 year old on mom and dad's healthcareFunny you call others a dolt when you yourself are a fucking aids infested nigger.
>>539776371>Why do Republicans refuse to do anything to improve our healthcare system?because they want you dead
>>539776371We should have a magic wand to make everything bad go away forever. Simple as.
>>539777500Perfect example. White people will tough it out and get help when out of options. Mexicans carelessly exploit our systems without second thought.
>>539777327You would probably get some significant buy-in for immigration control if the GOP did this, but they won't because their billionaire donor base would never allow it.
>>539776717I wouldn't let them off the hook that easy. You remember when Bernie Sanders was running for president and he was pushing Medicare for All? And he was saying we're going to raise taxes on the rich "to pay for it" and he let Hillary Clinton hang him on that during the debates?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lGhF1jO4ZbM
>>539776371A helicopter is going to be expensive no matter what system you have.
>>539776921When you say "bankrupt" -- can you be as specific and articulate as you possibly can be what you mean by that?
>>539777868yeah, i would go to the hospital if i accidentally cut my finger off and couldn't reattach it myself or something.browns show up with a case of the sniffles and bring their illegal grandparents with them for a full checkup because they don't have to pay because they're brown and worthless
>>539776371You expect a free helicopter ride?I'll give you a free helicopter ride.
>>539778714> can you be as specific and articulateniggas be stealin what dey can
>>539778994That's not an answer I can make any sense of. Again -- when you use the specific and precise term of "bankrupt", explain to everyone in the thread what you mean by that.
>>539776371white and east asian men do shit like this all the time because we're based and i'm tired of everyone pretending we're not because of their own insecurities
>>539776371because it's straight up patronage to leftist goons they have to pay for. I hope you all get sick and die, actually.
>>539776371Republicans get large donations from insurance and pharmaceutical company lobbies who have a vested interest in maintaining the status quo OR shifting regulation even further in their favor. They argue under the guise of wanting to oppose socialism and socialized medicine, but the reality is that if they were paid by large organizations to support socialized medicine, they would. Democrats on the other hand also get large donations from insurance and pharmaceutical company lobbies, and have actually been even better useful idiots for shifting regulation in their favor than the Republicans have been. The affordable care act is little more than a government subsidy for insurance companies where tax dollars are spent giving things like the advance premium tax credits to niggers and other impoverished idiots at the expense of the American tax payer. Insurance companies were very happy to take on more customers with government dollars guaranteed to flow to them, and they don't give a fuck how much fraud takes place with it, because they enjoy raking in the cash and having zero responsibility for it. The Democrats peddle the ideology of muh socialized single payer healthcare, but the government runs on private industry, and they aren't escaping the health insurance companies leeching off of it unless a constitution destroying federal government reshaping revolution takes place (so probably not anytime soon). They want healthcare as an apparatus to wield politically, both in making people dependent on the federal government for their very lives, but as a legalized way to force people into medical treatments or legitimize others nationwide (abortions, transing your kids, etc.)Basically, healthcare in the US is fucked up, but anyone who thinks it will improve for the average person if you put some giant federal organization in charge of it all is huffing paint fumes.
>>539779081blat blat blat nigga go down be like call da amberlamps he leakin fuuuuuuckk nigga i aint got money fo dis shit
Why the fuck did Obama care about "letting you keep your doctor". I don't get to see my fucking GP anymore because he's 20 appointments overbooked each day with these stupid fucking boomers getting their cholesterol checked. I still don't get to see my doctor and I have to pay more for this shit.
>>539778708No, it's free over here. Obviously they're not literally free, but the cost is covered by the general health system and that system suffers no adverse effects what so ever.But all that aside, I'm pretty sure wilderness rescue helicopters are free in the US as well no? Does the coast guard charge anyone they pick up from a ship wreck?
>>539779371Yeah, that's pretty much I thought. Nonsense.Federal programs can't go bankrupt because of lack of money. The government never needs to "get", "acquire", "earn", or "find" money. It is the origin point of money, it is where money comes from at root. They create deposits by spending. They spend their own money unit into existence.So it's never and can never be a question of money. Money is the easiest thing in the world for the government. It's literally the ONLY thing it has and can do.It's only a question of real resources.
>>539776717the democrats controlled everything during Obama and they still didn't pass shit eitherbecause as much as they proclaim it to be a basic right, they know a system where you can take resources out without ever having contributed anything will eventually blow up because there's now a strong incentive to never contribute anything, and that incentive only grows the more people decide to pick that path
>>539776371I had to get flown to a hospital in Billings once on a twin engine plane and they billed me $22,000 for it so I don't blame him. Plus looking at that pic, it's easy to see the logic that went into his decision. That probably hurt like hell, but there was no blood and he hadn't punctured an artery or a big blood vessel so he didn't have to worry about bleeding out. It looks like that rod just went through fat/skin.
>>539779614>the government has infinite money for healthcareshit nigga so i aint gotta pay fo nothin? ima come in here erry day maybe get some lean n shit ahhhh doctor my arms hurts nigga can i get some lean. no? ok ima see another one of yall niggas tomorrow til i get my shit
>>539776371The hospital doesn't want you to know this but they have paperwork you can fill out that will cause them to eat your entire bill
>>539780317o rly
>>539779614this point is literally impossible for the average right winger to understand btwthey can only conceive of budgets in terms of a regular person sitting down to make a monthly budgettrust me man, I've tried to explain this shit to so many of the>HURR DURR WHERE DA MONEY COME FROM???????retards and not a single one can ever move beyond>but who will they tax to get that money?
>>539776913Right but if you can afford it you have to pay. I can afford a $20,000 helicopter ride. I'd prefer not to pay it.
>>539776371>improve American healthcare systemWhy would you improve it? The CEOs are richer than ever. The system is working great! Everything is working exactly as intended!
>>539776913Really if you have money the smart thing to do is just hire a lawyer and make the hospital deal with the lawyer. You'll pay way less than whatever the hospital tries to bill you.
>>539780453You would think it would be obvious, though? Like, they seem to understand that there are in fact real actual printers that create physical money (I understand most money is digital, but you get where I'm going with this).The government doesn't make it subtle, either. The Treasury secretary's signature and the Great Seal of the United States is on the money.
>>539776371They only believe in taking things away and that all will magically fall into place from it.
OP is being sarcastic, you fucking idiots. OP pic rel belongs in a humo thread.>>539776884>>539778903Sole effort posts in this thread.>>539780400>>539780317Schroedinger's Heath Care "Crisis"
>>539780685>You would think it would be obvious, thoughthey can't think abstractly. they know their experience of life, where they get a paycheck and have to manage that money because that's all they have to work withsince their life consists of managing a finite amount of money they receive from outside themselves, EVERYTHING must operate in the same way
>>539777868yup. was a last resort because my child needed antibiotics and we ended up just going to the ER. fucking pisses me off to no end
>>539776371>Wagie walks 10 miles down Montana's tallest mountain after impaling himself on a pole, hoping to avoid a costlyhelicopter evacuationWagies should just work 5 jobs and stop complaining
>>539776371Why do idiots with possibly dangerous hobbies, refuse to purchase supplemental insurances? Why does OP continue to think this is plebbit, fishing for updoots?
>>539776371>ourkek
>>539776717NGMI kiddo. KYS nao.
>>539777977Healthcare would already be free without immigrants just off current funding. US spends way more on healthcare in terms of government spending than Europeans do, it's just you guys have way more burdens than we do (for now anyways).
>>539781193You're probably right. But, a lot of them can hold down jobs of reasonable competence. If you're intelligent enough to get a CDL you should be able to figure this out.
>>539776921>Problem is blacks and Latinx would bankrupt the system immediatelyThis makes no fucking sense. Do you see that happening in other first world nations with brown people?
>>539776717quality learing
>>539783145You’re right. Their public healthcares are just gradually getting worse with longer waiting times, lack of qualified staff, and decreased quality of service. You want that?
>>539776371I'm not paying for some spic to get liposuction or some tranny to chop his dick off. Fuck off.
>>539783145You can see what a net drain SNAP is to the economy. Now times it by however much healthcare costs. There's your answer.
>>539776371If he was able to walk down a mountain, why are leftoids screeching to me that he should have gotten a free $1million helicopter ride? Wouldn't they rather that money be spent on something more important, like people who can't self-evacuate? Scarcity is actually a thing, you commie faggots.
White americans simply dont deserve medical care. They exist to pay taxes and die.
>>539783145>This makes no fucking sense. Do you see that happening in other first world nations with brown people?I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or retarded so good job. Health care is OBVIOUSLY getting worse in every first world nation that’s bringing in large numbers of migrants, with wait times sharply increasing and quality of care falling dramatically. Both Canada and the UK are expected to have their health care systems collapse within the next decade.
>>539786214>I can’t tell if you’re being sarcastic or retarded so good job. HJews have a sort of jewmagic they can use that wraps people like him in a bubble of impervious obliviousness. If his grandma gets cancer, the bubble might pop... but your words will just bounce off it.
>>539776469They wanted to. Obama barely reached 60 votes in the Senate for a few months through multiple acts of God, and many of those senators were super centrist. They ended up taking Romney's Republican healthcare plan to get something that would actually pass. Was pretty funny watching Romney attack that as radical communism in the 2012 debate.
>>539781873>Bro just pay more money to billionaire insurance oligarchs!I hope you get Luigi'd
>>539776371because they love paying me, an employee of a major health insurance company, $170k/yr to work from home. your insurance premiums fund my shitposts.
>>539776371Healthy people should be rewarded. Only unhealthy people should pay for healthcare
>>539786939that's not how it works under any system, unless you're a cash pay retard gambling on never being serious ill.
There is literally nothing wrong with murdering insurance workers, and their families.
>>539785429>You can see what a net drain SNAP is to the economyIt's not, though?
>>539786787your shitposts are free. you do it for free. onto the next, chop chop postie.
>>539785377>Their public healthcares are just gradually getting worse with longer waiting times, lack of qualified staff, and decreased quality of service. using fake Fox News talking points. Mind you, long wait times and poor service is better than no service because you can't afford it in the first place. Please kys.>>539785429>You can see what a net drain SNAP is to the economy.You can't just say shit and not substantiate it. Can you explain how starving children makes economy better? >>539786214>Health care is OBVIOUSLY getting worse in every first world nationAgain, saying shit without backing it up at all.Also if you believe in free markets then, the solution here is just to add more doctors to account for the demand. I don't know why you guys always act like economies don't respond to the demands created by immigrants.
>>539779511>Does the coast guard charge anyone they pick up from a ship wreck?Only if you arent actually in danger and are just calling because you feel sick or something similar.
>>539778714>Be doctor>Spend hundreds of thousands and four years on a college degree>Spend a quarter million and another four years on medical school>Spend another 3-7 years (depending on specialty) on residency being paid a barely-liveable wage >Spend tens of thousands on credentialing exams>Count on decent pay for the hundreds of lives you save afterward >90% don't pay you shit because they're worthless nigger parasites>The rest can't afford to subsidize nine other people each>Everybody decides fuck being a doctor, the juice ain't worth the squeezeThat's just doctors, the same shit applies to nurses to a lesser extent, plus all the other services a hospital supplies that people won't do for free like meals, changing bedsheets, HVAC, HVAC maintenance, electricity, ambulance service....
>>539786214That in turn leads to shit like MAID. It cost less to just kill you instead of treat you.
>>539780453>>539780685>>539781193>>539782126Hey, circlejerking faggots, the government can print a zillion dollars a la Zimbabwe, but that just devalues the currency a la Zimbabwe. Doctors, nurses, MRI machines, etc. demand a great deal of actual resources to function. You can give them fancy paper that they exchange for those resources, they'll accept that middleman, but if you try to give them toilet paper, the service is going to stop existing.
>>539787020Why would you bet on being unhealthy? We need to remove incentives to be unhealthy so that you change your behaviours
>>539783145The NHS in Britain. It’s so bad that it’s arguable that Britain is no longer even a first world country.
>>539776371>>539776913>shieet just like negotiate with the jews to get it down like 300k to like 10k or somethng what are you a commie if you cant afford it?
>>539788824allow me to let you in on a little secrettaxation controls inflation by destroying currencyor you could infer that governments are bound by inflation, not raw currency payments, by reading the first post where the guy says>It's only a question of real resources.which is really what inflation is measuring (how much currency do you have vs how much stuff that currency is representing)I know this is a shock for a 70 iq rightoid, but nobody is saying you don't have to tax. intelligent people understand you don't have to tax *to fund government programs*
>>539776371I'd do it too. Ambulance ride is for when you're in danger of dying, or can't walk and there's no one around.
>>539788313Yeah, it's going right over your head. You don't understand money.>>539788824Zimbabwe had hyperinflation because supply evaporated when they seized White-owned farms. They had a ~60% collapse in agricultural output -- real resources that people want to consume. You'll notice they never ran out of money; because governments can't run out of money. They can only run out of things to buy.So while this is a good argument against, say, universal basic income. It is not at all a good argument against lavishly funding educational subsidies for people who want to go into the medical field, or for aggressively involving the government in medication pricing, or making a broader array of currently prescription medications over the counter, or medical automation with robotics, etc. The government can and should fund things like this to bring about an increase in supply.
>>539787944It’s not a Fox News talking point. The collapse of the nhs is well documented on twitter, Substack and elsewhere
>>539783145It is declining visibly in both Canada and the UK.
>>539789094>>539789213>here’s how money and economy isn’t real and government can actually pay for anything we want
>>539789553It's a common talking point on the right that American healthcare is higher quality. There are a variety of metrics by which quality can be evaluated, but the several times I've looked at nation-by-nation comparisons across a variety of metrics, American healthcare didn't have a clear advantage. It did well in some categories (so you can always cherrypick something), but lost in others. The one aspect of the comparison that's absolutely unambiguous is cost. America spends twice as much per capita, relative to other developed nations, for similar quality. That's what happens when you have 1) a completely unnecessary middleman in the form of insurance companies taking a huge cut 2) people without coverage who don't get regular preventative care, develop health issues, and are hospitalized for emergency care that's vastly more expensive than preventative care would've been
>>539786712>Bro you now owe more in taxes to airlift retards off mountains when they get a boo-boo!!!someone is still paying the helicopter man, anon
