What explains the East Asian drive for extinction?
>>539777354- Social media- Cell Phones- Feminism- High cost of living- Necessity for dual incomes- Porn- Video games- Opportunity cost of marriage and children for young women- Striving for an unattainable standard of living depicted in TV and movies- Lack of incentives to marry- High cost of raising children
>>539777354intelligence is dysgenic
>>539777639All that's true of every developed country. Why is it so much worse for East Asians?
>>539777354Asian women have access to the internet and they no longer want Asian men.
>>539777354small apartments and dota 2. the guys have no game and can't get laid. women might talk shit but they will accept a man instead of a 15 year old boy in a 25 year old body.
>>539777354theres like 2 billion of us, i think we'll be ok with a bit less
I've been wondering this a lot, and it has to be penis size right? Women's rights and realizing Asian men have the smallest penises, so then they get 0.8 fertility rates.
>>539777763Population density, hyper competitiveness, inability to see a better future, and disparity between the number of men and women of childrearing age. East Asians have become panda people.
>>539777763>>when super power 2020 just meant porn in every household
>>539777354Combine the stuff that prevents families from being started here, add paid high-school, and remove sexual liberation. Alsontreat weed like its Crack mixed with fent.
>>539777863>3/10 asian bitch gets a 6/10 white male>what could possibly go wrong
>>539777354Isn't this better than a civil war with 200 million casualties>50 million cannibalized
>>539778078>Alsontreat weed like its Crack mixed with fent.ah yes "banning weed" is why they can't breed. It's totally not typical Asian autism combined with tiny peckers and women not picking men due to women gaining rights.I'm fairly certain everyone is coping because they are scared to confront the obvious.
>>539777354overcrowding
>>539778220All the people I know who smokes weed also breed like bunnies, true story
>>539777763because their numbers aren't inflated with immigrants popping out babies in western countries uk birthrate = 1.56 which includes mass immigration and 30 percent of babies from ethnic minorities, high inflation, unstable government norway's birthrate = 1.66 with a immigration population making up 16.8% of their country,france birthrate = 1.83 france prohibits collection of data by race and ethnicity but look at this video of parisian streets and count how many tyrones and mohammads you see. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1Js8wntdk4the birthrate is almost just as bad for whites in developed countries and it's dire in Eastern Europe where there's less immigrationjapan birthrate = 1.13 but with virtually all babies being japanese, low inflation, politically stable, third highest robot density in the world to prepare for the automation revolution (korea is in top 5 and china entered top 5 this year). viturally all babies born in Korea will be Koreans
>>539778446Reminder that Europe's birthrate is still under replacement level and that's with the surge of immigrants and foreign born population pumping babies out
>>539777354Muh GDP - women working instead making babies.
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birth rates won't increase while women are allowed to work
>>539777354Urbanization, technology, anti-life cultureBtw we have the same problem here, there west is a demographic sink where people go to die, not even immigrants are spared. The only people who do all right are the people who eschew urbanization, technology, and anti life culture like the Amish
>>539778613Women always worked
>>539778803chores around the house is not work
>>539777354>stealth wmaf thread
>>539778803correlate women in workforce percentage to birth rates in 20th century when workforce participation rose from 30 to 70% women and birthrates fell from 4+ to 1 - use any chatbot (mind it will try to obfuscate this correlation but press the topic and it will give up and agree that trough 20th century rise in women workforce participation was tied very strongly with falling birthrates).
>>539778555Yes globohomo jews are erasing ethnic Europeans everywhere
>>539777863>muh bwc Here's your reality check
>>539779334>correlate women in workforce percentage to birth rates in 20th century when workforce participation rose from 30 to 70% women and birthrates fellMaybe in your country. Most women were working before and during the post WW2 baby boom in the US
>>539779668>A screenshot of photo is a source Man AI ruined zoomers
>>539779829>REEEEE It's AI because I don't like it!Okay, Coomer.https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OGkDQuPq6bw
>>539779724thats why i preposed to use chatbot as it has acces to multitude of historical sources and can compile global trends ive mentioned and per country trends - all of those correlate very strongly - for example post ww2 women workforce participation drop corelated very strongly with fertility spike that lasted till 1960s
>>539777354I guarantee ours would be just as abysmal if it weren't being propped up by immigrants
>>539779724straight up false, why do muttoids say absolutely retarded shit with full confidence when it's disproven by one google search
>>539780024>40 percent in the middle of WW2Lol you actually believe this?
>>539779905having a melty?
>>539780177>says retarded shit>instantly disproven by every statistic and data point>umm ummm I don't believe it ...kill yourself retard
>>539777863yeah nah
>>539777354Per woman? But the left said men can get pregnant too.
>>539780271kek
>>539778043haha nah
>>539780198>having a melty?
>>539777763They have even dumber work cultures. China has 996 still in some industries, and Japan has this whole "need to wait for you boss to leave before you leave" bullshit. They value being seen working more than they value producing results, so they're less productive overall and have no time left to get a wife.
>>539780728why are you using a japan flag? we all know you're that californian gook on a vpn.
>>539780271Why do indians and east asians LARP as black when things go bad for them.If you want to roast the west its pretty easy with weak points such as child molestation, lgbt nonsense, being unable to define gender, and more.Yet each time they have no choice but to LARP as black when things get bad.Honestly I think its a double edged sword because when asian societies collapse they will just import blacks to own their countries.Same even for india since their fertility is now below replacement after generations of aborting girls, and women running to live anywhere else.Even jeet land will get replaced with africans.>>539778446>>539778555Pretty brutal, this is the TRVKE to end all arguments, blacks basically won earth solely because they are the last people to reject feminism and just keep having kids.>inb4 mass starvationNot only does that not stop them, but that would just cause fake nationstates to cease in favor of pre-colonial tribal ethnostates.While that seems bad it would really just successfully kick the can down the road long enough to allow african over-population to let them jeet-maxx and take over by shipping excess people.>>539780795>asians>west coastsame thing and you know it anon, after latinos they are one of the most spammed minorities on the west coast.
>>539779334>>539778829The modern world doesn't reflect how women lived. First off, women always worked but there was no such thing as a "workforce" because wagecucking is something that arose predominantly with the industrial revolution. So if both parents have to wagecuck then of course this will lower birth rates because wagecucking batters the human spirit so much that it drives people to extinction, not to mention the fact both parents are working outside the home. Have you really thought through what you're actually asking for if you want women to not work? Why would you want your wife to not work? Imagine you're farmer or craftsmen, you're self-employed and where you live is also where you work. Do you want wife A: sits around being prettyB: does everything you don't, manages the garden, milks the cow, helps with the harvest, etc.
>>539780795>claim it's fake and get refuted immediately>continue foaming over his psycho storiesYeah, I think you lost.
>>539777354Everybody talks about Japan but they are not so bad comparing to others other Asian countries.
>>539777354>>539778446>>539779724>EVERY OTHER REASON OTHER THAN THE VAXSorry vaxxies........
>>539777354They take ideas to their logical limits faster than anyone else. Feminism inevitably leads to no kids and so they got their first. We arent far behind if you remove immigrant and shitskin numbers….
>>539781760>Why would you wantIts not about what i want - its just what seems to be elephant in the room that everyone tries very hard not to notice. Most countries push for maximum employment while ignoring how hard it is to have 3+ kids (minimum practical replacement figure as not all women decide/are capable of having children) AND work full time for both parents - its bordering on silly really...Im not talking about forcing someone to do something - just not ignoring facts that are inconvenient
>>539777354The same thing explaining the drive to extinction across the globeWe gave women rights
>>539777354China has 1.3 billion people. this doesn't matter
>>539777763Western whites are at the same or worse levels pretty much categorically. China just wants to stay as China even if there's 500 million instead of 1.5 billion Chinese instead of turning into pakistan v2
>>539782757It most certainly matters. As they now have an entire generation that is half the previous sizes. This radically affects their manpower ESPECIALLY when it comes to military roles.
>>539777763The work life balance is horrible. As gay as western society is, I know if I raise my kids right they won't be gay; but almost all jobs in East Asia will suck the soul out of you.
>>539777354This is outplayed and debunked trope. European have the exact same birthdate problems, and it's all by design that this is hijacked to import millions of brown retards
>>539782952not really
We're doomed either way
>>539777354debunked
>>539779724That's a stretch, I thought women were horribly oppressed throughout history until feminism freed them?
ive fucced an incredible quantity of taiwanese girls. over half are on weird pills for hormone imbalance, likr they'll go to the doctor because their period isnt regular and the doctor will prescribe them hormone balancing pills to make their periods regular and the side effect is temporary or permanent? infertility. i blame the over trust in doctors in taiwan and the taiwanese doctors out of control prescribing of drugs that affect fertility. plus the fact that taiwanese males are fuckng pussies that are scared to get a woman pregnant
>>539778584Man I wish it was actually 10% here
>>539777354>nation reaches population equillibrium>people fine with that>birth fetishists: yeah, but didnt you forget to ask me??!You freaks won't be happy until the world is one of those 80s scifi dystopias where we are all living in 16 layers of cities and filth.
>>539780271>>539780591>>539780706
>>539783046china's manufacturing work force has flat lined, yet their manufacturing value added per employee continues to rise. Automation/AI will further supplement decline in employee numbers, for instance, with the rise of dark factors where lights aren't needed because the production is almost completely automated without any on site human workers.
>>539783209You know the shrinking portion of the population that is white men is a massive problem, right? It's the competency crisis
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>>539782151i knew you'd come back under a different flag to reply to that post. you are an incredibly sad bastard.
>>539782952>>539783246also, China already has a bulge in the alpha pipeline that is a bigger generation than zoomers. and by 2050 the number of retirees per 100 will still be less than what japan has in the current year. china graduates about 9x as many new engineers last year for every retiring engineer. the most brvtal trvthnvke is that everything aligned perfectly for China. Its demographic dividend (large young population) swept up the manufacturing on the planet in the 90s-2000s.i's now beginning to reap the intellectual dividend from millenials and zoomers who are much more educated than their parents, who have better access to nutrition and healthcare, who are now driving the innovation for BYD, DJI, Huawei, Deepseek, Unitree, etc, and advancing their manufacturing base.The hyper-industrialization and intellectual dividend of today will now facilitate their fourth industrial revolution of automation as their blue collar force is retiring over the next decades. meanwhile, the West will be left with increasing low iq immigrants pumping babies out
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>>539783373No, I don't. I'd have to ignore the statistics you didnt include and all of the major accidents and negligence over the "peak white man" era. Including all of the global conflicts and world wars that originated in Europe...
>>539783612China's fully self-driving electric tractor, the Honghu T70.It can handle the *entire farm cycle* from plowing to sowing to care to cropping, while collecting real-time data on soil conditions.It's already hard at work in the fields of Hebei and soon in the whole country.China has one of the most strict immigration laws in the world which makes it almost impossible for non han chinese to get citizenships, yet they refuse to loosen their immigration laws.
>>539783409Also, the obvuous flaw in the "white males pay all the taxes," is that "white males had all of the money." It sounds like you're arguing for DEI and equity policies in this tangent of yours...
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>>539780271He killed her, btw
>>539777354>asian extinction Don't interfere in their private decisions.
>>539777354Lack of BWC access for asian godesses
>>539777354The problem is our worldwide economic pyramid scheme system that demands constant growth. We really don't need more people.
>>539777354Not low enough. Should be 0.25.
>>539777354>>539777763The low birthrates of Asian countries, in relative terms, are a mirage.Once you adjust for mass immigration, every western nation looks like that.
>>539780795Why ya posting? Don't you have to change the oil on another car? Also be sure to wash it by hand afterwards so you can hopefully keep your customers happy, you greasy japcel.
>>539785830Nope. Australia, NZ, and USA track the birth rates of whites vs other migrants and they are still far higher than East Asia. White birth rate here is 1.5ish in NZ and Aus.
>>539783719You can still pay taxes if you arent making a lot of money retard
>>539777354Imagine having anime girls around you all the time and then having to contrast that with real women
>>539786065you replied to that post twice you fucking gook. just how angry are you?
>>539777714yes, but intelligent societies are eugenic. key distinction
>>539777763East Asians invest in human capital. Whites have a lot of uneducated rednecks that still breed, but will produce an underclass in the future.
>>539786536>sees koreans everywhereAre the koreans in the room with you now?
>>539786564It may be different in Europe but it’s actually high class whites here with the highest birth rates. This is probably due to the widening gaps between classes but America has culturally encouraged poorer people to put off having kids to focus on themselves for a while now which likely explains declining nonwhite birth rates. Also some groups with okay fertility like Mormons are more likely to be middle class rather than being poor, and are (mostly; not all) white.I think the surest sign of this is how they struggle to get whites into really shitty paying jobs like working on farms, which is why they always complain about needing foreign labor, that demographic of whites is disappearing
>>539777863They’ve always had the same access as guys have.Too many ways to entertain one’s self at home rather than taking social risks as part of growth. You eventually become socially isolated.
>>539786874that's patently false.what a fucking retarded idea to have when the data is so easily available as well as the observable reality that poor fat whites have the most kids.
>>539786757imagine buying a vpn just to do this on 4chan
>>539786151This. The Chinese fertility rate in NZ is still catastrophically low, and below that of Whites. Something has happened to East Asians.
>>539786874Back in the 80’s, teen pregnancy rate was high. Abortions were available which took off some of the pressure knowing there was a way out. True, there were a lot of abortions but there were also more younger couples willing to get married and raise their babies as well. With abortion off the table, women are being much more careful about who they sleep with and minimizing the risks of having an unwanted child.
>>539787212Jeets dont have children here either. Like half of our "asian" population is jeets now but it still keeps tumbling.
>>539784360The main point is that the "system" doesn't really care about nations or cultures. If it decimates local fertility rates, the machine can simply import them from Africa without caring about the implications for the native population. The machine demands it, and the machine gets it. That's how rapacious, neoliberal capitalism works.
>>539777354Whites are going extinct too mutt.
>>539787212It's already over for New Zealand
>>539777354>extinctionYou do understand that a massively overinflated population doing some shrinking does not actually mean an extinction event?
>>539787137imagine restarting your phone to pretend you're not a triggered old boomer japcel who's miserable with being a jap. You spent over a decade here seething at magical koreans 24/7 while your japan gets mutted. kek, you focused on the wrong enemy. KAWB
>>539787359There are more white people now than there have ever been before in history. How exactly are we going extinct?
Maybe if they just made birth control and abortions illegal it would go back to the way it used to be. Then also you would have to get rid of welfare to avoid parasitizing the state. So basically just go back to the 19th century.
>>539777354The higher the IQ the lower the births
>>539787363NZ is an interesting case because it is heavily racially segregated. The South Island is basically a White paradise. Auckland is a hellscape though.
>>539787137>random dudes sharing the same picture shared in the internetAre you new to the internet?
>>539786874This is not true. Most whites live in white trash region in deep red states
>>539787067Observable reality may include an awareness of what wealthy people are actually doing. The poor and working class simply have more kids because they represent the largest group but the well heeled probably are more likely to have kids as they can afford them.Recent data shows high-income and highly educated segments in advanced economies sometimes buck the downward trend, experiencing stable or slightly rebounding birth rates compared to the squeezed middle class.
>>539787430This seems like the only assured way of avoiding extinction, yeah. If anything, current fertility rates favour religious sects like the Amish and Orthodox Jews. In 2000 years, the U.S. will just be Amish, Orthodox Jews, Quakers, and a shrinking population of Mormons. "God" will be an AI agent that controls everything from weather to food supply ruling over a population of an Amish peasantry.
>>539787067I’m not gonna spoonfeed you, if you’re serious about demography you can find the shift to a U shape in fertility
>>539787481Something about being insufferable pricks no one want to have a family with.
>>539787481Duh. Didn't you see "Idiocracy"?If not, you should. It's hilarious. And also a very serious documentary
>>539787504Might want to google that.
>>539777354People will say porn and cell phones but these all are memes.It's just high cost of living. It's always high cost of living. If the cost of living was low, then people would have more time and resources to pair up, once they do and male salary can support entire family, they will just start making babies out of boredom.But if everyone has to work for entire day, then making big family is completely out of question, that assuming they even have time to date.
>>539777354Humans breed when conditions are fit. Taxed on income = unfit conditions. Women breed until they are forced to pay income tax. Nothing dries out a cunt faster than being made to pay income taxes
>>539787067>>539787504retards just talk out of their asses and yet claming they base their views on data LMAO
>>539787695The whites that do breed live in shithole states with no great options for good paying jobs like some arkansas, they are often religious fundamentalists which will only further break the mental health of their offspring once they realize the tortures and indoctrination they went through
