Some of you remember me constantly posting these posts.https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534771https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/528529495/#q528534871Adam, Eve and Satan challenged God's sovereignty. Satan accused Jehovah of bribing Job in exchange for loyalty. Christianity is meant to answer those challenges. That's all.>What is it meant to accomplish?To prove three things:>Satan is a liar>Humanity cannot govern themselves>Humans will be loyal to God in return for nothing.>Was is the solution to all the world's problems?After God is satisfied with those issues thoroughly being answered and accomplished he will bring Armageddon to earth. A one world government ruled by Jesus Christ as king. That regime is simply called God's Kingdom
Why did Jesus and Harry Potter need magic wands?
>>539788274Well that's not a magic wand. That's a shepards rod for tending sheep. That picture is portraying Jesus as the fine shepherd.
What did Satan lie about?
>>539788384No, he's using it to multiply the fishes and loaves. Do those look like sheep? Also, no shepherd in human history has ever used a stick that short.
>>539788016something . . . free willsomething . . . test something . . . holy spiritits all coming together
>>539788274the wand is a tool of misdirection used by magicians.
>if god exists then he'll give me gib mes!
>>539788016God visits earth every few thousand years. There just too many planets.
>>539788397True, Satan is pretty honest. Mostly, his lies are in what he leaves out. He usually doesn't like to go into the details of his relationship with God, for instance, as that spoils the game.
>>539788526he's like santa claus. a very busy man.
>>539788506It's a big one. We can almost safely ignore whatever magic power does lie in the wood of the holly, since misdirection is all it's been used for since the Druids were defeated in battle.
>>539788547>being that is portrait as speaking only lies>hes pretty honest
>>539788016>If there is a Mod why does he not intervene?
>>539788016Any God that chooses to help people such as exist now would be a worthless one. Thankfully, there are better Gods.
>>539788676Satan is a great character because he has a singular function: to focus the mind on the injustices and abuses resident on earth without looking at the broader picture. Since Satan is Prometheus, he basically creates Mankind. But he's dishonest both about who he is working for, and what exactly he expects Man to do.
>>539788862this is your brain on counterfeit theology.total mumbo jumbo.
There is another important overlap between the wisdom of the ancients and the (diluted) wisdom of the scriptures. That of Man's (shortened) life. The Bible has that our lives' shortening is a punishment for sin, for Plato, the gods blessed us with shorter lives, to spare us the suffering inherent in much longer ones. But in both stories, the Divine is uncomfortable with his creation, us, because He knows what a difficult task it is to exist, and isn't quite sure how to prepare his "children" for what they are going to suffer.
>>539788943You are a rapist and rape victim, and the rape has stopped your ability to think. You're like Brittany Spears, with her knives. MK Ultra is a real tragedy.
>>539788397About this >>539788016>God lied and you won't die from eating the fruit. >Eating the fruit will give you sovereignty like God and be able to decide for yourselves right from wrong. >Any human that is loyal to God is only doing so out of selfish gain.
>>539789303It's definitely a mixed bag there. I'd give it a 6 out of 10 on the Truthiness Scale (TM).
>>539789333Checked!
>>539789333Also, did Satan need a magic wand too, or was that only Jesus?
>>539789333What would make it a 10 to you?
>>539788016>Humanity cannot govern themselvesBut we CAN govern ourselves when he doesn't force kikes over us.
>>539789497Satan/ Prometheus needs to be more straightforward about what he does, and doesn't know. And what is motivating him to help/ create humanity.
>>539788016He did.2,000 years ago.Think of humanity as a rat population experiment. An experiment requires one to set the parameters, and then walk away , to see how things progress/degress in your absence.
>>539789152>Yeah, bro. The CIA totally disclosed their most abominable technique for absolutely free to the public. I'm sure it isn't a distraction from what's really going on. Also, here's a Brittany Spears example (she's totally human btw)
>>539788511He does this for kikes though. He gives kikes all the toddlers they can rape.
>>539789542Satan / Prometheus is worried about what it means to be divine; about his relationship with the other gods. And he gives divinity to humankind. Out of loneliness? Selfishness? Revenge? Following orders? Even if we were only to be the gold miners, to suck the last bits of metal out of this mined-out husk, it's apparent that being "in the image of God" is real enough. We are a functional, altered copy of another divine being.
>>539788016There would be no point, no free will, if god intervened. Also, god is eternal and infinite, meaning that this is literally just one of the infinite multiverses that the human brain cannot comprehend and ergo it's meaningless.>but muh sufferingYeah, deal with it and then die. Big whoop.>hah, then god isn't x,y,zWho cares? You aren't going to convince anyone. It's the premium copium that's entirely free and has been used since time immemorial. Just get over it.
>>539789646> MK Ultra is fake news > Brittany is a ReptilianOkay anon
>>539789787Truly, squatting in track suits is all one needs to achieve peace on earth
>>539789787>There would be no point, no free will, if god intervenedBut he did intervene or else kikes would all be long dead.
>>539789513He never forced kikes on to you. YOU allowed it. He's no part of this world and it's politics
>>539789742The Mormons treat this part extremely literally. For them, Adam, Satan, and Jesus were all literal giants who lived hundreds and maybe thousands of years, and could teleport between dimensions. Sort of a Stargate story. And like Stargate, the promise is held out: you too could teleport between dimensions, and manage your own planet one day.
>>539789930>He never forced kikes on to you. YOU allowed itWith all that power he didn't give me but did give kikes
>God exists and he is all-knowing (he knows the future)>You have free will therefore your actions are not predetermined and noone can know what you will do in the futureChoose one
>>539788016You're welcome to your personal feelings and opinions
>>539790004Well but so much of it is psychological anon. Like at the end of The Neverending Story, Jennifer Connelly realizes kikes such as herself are actually powerless when the goyim stop believing.
>>539790083Sorry, I meant The Labyrinth lol
>>539788016He does intervene, constantly. You're just so fucking retarded that you brush it off as coincidence or chance.>>539788442No, it's an artistic depiction to show that He is the great shepherd. He didn't have a wand with Him in the actual story.
>>539790083>powerless when the goyim stop believing.Right which is why he made sure I'm outnumbered 100 to 1 by goyim who will never ever in a trillion years ever stop believing.
>>539788016Jewish fairy tales have zero basis in reality. I am an atheist, but the only god I am willing to consider as possibly existing is the Demiurge. Clearly if we exist for any reason its to suffer.
>>539790138There are hundreds of versions of the story anon. But we know, only (You) have the correct one.
>>539789303>>Any human that is loyal to God is only doing so out of selfish gain.This is definitely true for a lot of people, sadly. The reward for good should never matter to you. You should serve Him regardless of what happens. You should worship Him even if you'd go to Hell.
>>539790145True, that part magnifies the suffering anon. In this sense, we're unfortunately similar to kikes and to Protestant christ-cucks, who believe they're an elect few, able to see through the veil of illusion. It's lonely at the top, anon.
>>539790220No there fucking aren't? What are you talking about?
>>539790300Checked, 00 for innocence. Lurk moar anon
>>539790321???????
>>539790297>In this sense, we're unfortunately similar to kikes and to Protestant christ-cucks, who believe they're an elect few, able to see through the veil of illusionI don't care about being better than them I just want their souls to be somewhere else so they can be NPCs on some other world that they can make hell so I can live in a real civilization with my own kind.But of course, that would be respectful of my free will and god has a problem with that.
>>539790379Anon, why is Jesus using a magic wand to magnify the loaves and dishes in this old fresco?
>>539790425Because the artist drew it that way. How is that hard to understand? Artists add things to amplify certain messages or meanings.
>>539790401I don't know what to tell you anon, I agree with you completely. Glowniggers literally follow me and my buddy now when we go for hikes because we're just so interesting to them, but I say let's have a BBQ anyway, and the glowniggers can come.
>>539788016>If there is a Godthere isnt. its a human invention that acts as a placeholder that can be fed to retards who are unable to grasp reality.>Adam, Eve and Satan challenged God's sovereignty. Satan accused Jehovah of bribing Job in exchange for loyalty. Christianity is meant to answer those challenges. That's all.these things never happened, this is just jewish fanfiction. why do you treat it as fact?>Was is the solution to all the world's problems?stop believing jewish fanfiction storys and use your brain.
>>539790465Sure, okay, and what message is the fresco amplifying by drawing Jesus using his magic wand to create more fish and bread?
>>539788016SO WHY BE A GOOD HUMAN?SEE YOU ALL RUN BACK TO ME…YOU WILL SAY BECAUSE WHO WANTS TO BE EVIL AND NOW YOU KNOW THE STORY OF JOB….ATHENA - YHVH
>>539790499Checked, and German atheist-pilled. The only problem with atheism is that it turns into Judaism lol
>>539790523The wand is a shepherd's rod, and it's meant to symbolize how Jesus is the ultimate shepherd, leading the flock of mankind to His Kingdom.
>>539788016I talked to god and he says he only makes homos suffer, because he hates them. You’re not gay are you?
>>539788547satan works for god, which is why satanists are stoopid.
>>539790574>The only problem with atheism is that it turns into Judaism lolelaborate
>>539788467The demons that raise your sickness up, and march you around on their shoulders; will be the very same ones that drag you down, to eternity in hell.Choose God, choose salvation, it's never too late while you are still drawing breath.
>>539790574>The only problem with atheism is that it turns into Judaism lolIncorrect. Atheism is a disbelief or lack of belief in God or gods
>>539790485All we can do is rebel by doing our best to be kind and loving, and to keep the memory of America alive, since these are all things god is diametrically opposed to.
>>539790642If the material world is all that exists, and no divine forces care what you do or don't do, you can just rape and murder with no consequences, and many kikes do exactly that. Of course, few atheists are actual rapists and murderers, and I don't hold that theism is necessary to be moral. Marcus Aurelius answers that question just fine, but Marcus is still no atheist. Our actions now echo throughout eternity. No kike would ever say that.
>>539790755Checked, and close enough anon
he does, have patiencehttps://pol.foundation/Happening.html
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>>539788016He already has.He wrote the beginning, middle and end. Everything that happens in between those points is meh, who cares. Time does not apply to a God.
>>539790581It's clearly a magic wand, anon. It's way too short to be a shepherd's staff. And there are no sheep in the picture. Those are cornucopia, horns of plenty, anon. Use your eyes now.
>>539790763>you can just rape and murder with no consequencesIncorrect
>>539790138God only intervenes in ways that can be explained as coincidence or chance (just as I would expect from a God that does not exist).
>>539790832Nothing makes god seethe with boiling jewish goblin rage more than when you deny his greatest will, which is to mutilate and torment children, who he hates the most.
>>539788016The greatest gift ever given to humanity was free will.
>>539790905Obviously it's mistaken anon, but kikes believe that if you rig the judge jury and executioner, and let Leo Frank get away with murder, then he literally did no wrong. The Talmud is an atheist manual in that sense.
>>539791042It would be if the intention for giving it to us wasn't to torment us by denying it
>>539790969Kek. He likes to eat them though, anon. He likes their flavor.
>>539790763>If the material world is all that exists, and no divine forces care what you do or don't do, you can just rape and murder with no consequencesno thats retarded, why would consequences stop existing?why would thermodynamics stop making sense because there is no foreskin munching sky daddy for you?order and stability and complexity = good (universe organizes complexity on its own to dissipate energy more efficiently)chaos/destruction = bad as it increases entropyso you see, you dont need a jew god to figure any of this out.
>>539791055>if you rig the judge jury and executioner, and let Leo Frank get away with murder, then he literally did no wrongIncorrect
>>539790881I accept your concession that your brain is too underdeveloped to comprehend basic concepts like "metaphors" and "artistic liberties". >>539790969Matthew 18:10“See that you do not despise one of these little ones. For I tell you that in heaven their angels always see the face of my Father who is in heaven."Do these sound like the words of a tyrant who eats babies?
>>539791110Sure, there's a Deist and very German logic there: Ordnung gut, chaos bad. And I don't disagree with it. My point is that nearly all Jews alive will tell you they're atheists. And Jews commit the crimes which tear down your Order. Atheism--when left unchecked--leads to Judaism--which destroys civilizations.
>>539791182You have to deny the evidence of your senses to let your priest rape you, I understand. The rape is of young boys is wrong, anon. And Jesus was a kike who practiced it.
>>539791182>Do these sound like the words of a tyrant who eats babies?This does >17 Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him.
>>539791293What chapter?
>>539791328Numbers 31:17
>>539791328Like all Christcucks, neither the Bible nor any other holy texts have ever crossed your desk lol
>>539791241>German logic thereits not "german logic", its the logic that the universe operates on.at no point does it require a foreskin feasting jew god.>all Jews alive will tell you they're atheistsnot really, they subscribe to the torah nonsense and they all believe in their fake and gay jew god which doesnt actually exist. also all abrahamic religions are cancer.>leads to Judaismjudaism sucks because jewish people suck. doesnt matter if they are religious or atheist, whatever the mentally ill build just sucks and doesnt work and will always eventually fail.
>>539788016>my life is so important that god shouldcare about me>>539788274that's his christing stick, he sticks it up you bum https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MPHyR92MQic&ra=m
>>539791388Checked and Heil Hitler. You've spoken to fewer kikes than me, anon, and you're blessed for that. But if you speak to them, they will tell you that they're atheists, unless we're speaking of the Orthodox. But in practice, the Orthodox are still functionally atheist, because Sabbattean Frankism is a form of blood-drinking atheism.
>>539791241>My point is that nearly all Jews alive will tell you they're atheists.Like an atheist who still goes to Church with family during Christmas
>>539788016It's good to not know. I'm fine with never knowing, i prefer the fleeting happiness and impermanence because even though nothing really matters sometimes good things happens. Maybe everything starts anew after everything ends that's one thing i'd like to know but it's important to understand that everything is going to end even us, and nothing and no one will come to save you, that's delusions for people with weak minds.
>>539788016Stop begging God for shit, retard. If anything, ask for will, because then you can placebo yourself into willpower in the worst case.
>>539791328>>539791374Also you can just google the text, there's online bibles. It's what I use all the time to blow up Christians, who don't seem to realize that anyone can read their holy texts.
>>539788016>Christianity is meant to answer mythisWell that's fuckin' useless
>>539791519Yes. Nearly all Jews alive, except for the Orthodox, practice passover for "cultural/ family" reasons, and will say they're atheists. Meanwhile all their behavior is of course straight out of the Talmud, the best civilization-destroying manual ever written.
>>539791606Yes, that's why I needed the chapter. So I could google it and understand the context around the verse.>>539791363The Midianites (the tribe they were warring with) practiced child sacrifice, bestiality, and prostitution. The boys adopted the view that these things were okay.
>>539791606Christians pretend to adore "close textual analysis" but in practice they're allergic to it. Really Protestantism did a great job ushering Christianity towards its end, you can see why priests never wanted the people to see what's in their book lol
>>539788016Jehovah's Witnessism isnt Christianity
>>539791674>makes excuses for murdering childrenKill yourself
>>539791451Jesus has always been fascinated by the asses of young boys.
>>539791645>Talmud, the best civilization-destroying manual ever written.This is like giving the word nigger too much power
>>539791791So throwing children into ovens and fucking animals was a good thing?
>>539791674We had to kill those children! They were going to be sacrificed if we didn't!
>>539791762Christianity is a huge tent, anon, and allows all manner of retardation, provided you still pay the tithe.
>>539791845I don't see your point anon. Saying nigger is healthy because niggers usually aren't. The same with the Talmud: say it to warn a brother about the people who follow that shit.
>>539788016Tits are disgusting.The universe is i dunno came from something but doesnt a really good job of perpetuating.Cant solve the former but i can solve the latter.
>>539791961What exactly is your problem with tits, anon? We're getting to the really important questions in this thread.
>>539791864When did I ever suggest it was?
>>539791961https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_oMD6-6q5Y
>>539791938>I don't see your point anonOf course not.
>>539792057Don't defend the Talmud anon. It's a work of great evil, written to destroy white families wherever we're found.
If you don't like the God of this planet why don't you pack up your shit and move to a planet with a better God? God doesn't love you, he loves me, and we both agree you are a whiny little prick who deserves to suffer
>>539788016God is either dead or cowering in fear at what His creation was wrought.Repent niggas.
>>539792115This anon is based and has found one of the Stargates. Anon, tell us where it's at and what order you have to put the sigils in for it to work.
>>539792095>Don't defend the Talmud anonIt's just a book anon, just like nigger is just a word
>>539792116I too would enjoy a Lao Yang / Adolf Hitler Have Coffee Together show
>>539792186Nigger is a scourge. I blame the south. Had Sherman et al just killed them all niggers included we'd be much better off.
>>539792186Sure, and both want to kill your family anon
>>539792242Elaborate on lang plz
>>539792292This is Lao Yang
>>539788467What's wrong with her vulva?
>>539790004He never denied you power nor gave them any. YOU gave them power and denied it to yourselves. >>539790145Again, that's your fault. YOU allowed it. >>539790249Correct
>>539789787>free willIve never asked anybody to create me, make my soul immortal or to be part of this shit world. >Yeah, deal with it and then die. Big whoop.In that case i wish the god to make your life a job tier unbearable miseryfest, faggot.
>>539792421Anon, do you know why Jesus needed a magic wand?
>>539791992They anger my greatly.
>>539792441They say you signed up for this mission and then forgot you did it anon. Convenient, I know ;)
>>539792511Tits make you angry, anon? Why?
>if there isthere you go. ill let you post some fedoras here while i exit the thread
>>539792421>YOU gave them power>YOU allowed it. In typical kike custom, transferring the guilt of your crime to your victim
>>539788584Maybe that's the Santa psyop
>>539792624It's an occult thing. "What you allow, will continue." It's also how governments and lawyers operate: what isn't disputed, is assumed to be valid, de facto.
>>539788016We are all sparks of God. We are God experiencing all of creation. Nothing is outside of you. Everything is within you.
>>539792493It's a rod
>>539792157Jesus will tell you where the good stargates are but only if you are cool he has way too much shit going on to waste his time on crying little bitches but they are welcome to go live on a gas giant, or move to alpha Centauri next to a flaring red dwarf if they prefer Jupiter or Amun-ra, there are pretty good stargates in Rome and Egypt for heathens it's not my problem if they get the shit planets because their gods are weak
>>539790217>Jewish fairy tales have zero basis in reality. I am an atheistAtheism and official narrative is jewish fairy tale >but the only god I am willing to consider as possibly existing is the Demiurge.So you are pagan agnostic, how atheistic.
>>539792694Right, a magic rod he uses to multiply fish using magic. But, why does he need it, anon?
>>539792695Anon it sounds like you really have the inside info. I don't want to say I'm as cool as you are, but drop more info in this thread so anons can find the Gates.
>>539788016divine intervention = no free will
>>539788016you’re in a cult
>>539792676Right like how kikes view consent to mean "if you don't kill us that means you consent to what we do"
>>539792981It's perverse, but yes.
>>539792723Atheism is an implicit state of being, when not believing in any particular set of made up nonsense. Also, there is no such thing as an "agnostic"
>>539792981yes, this is the law of natural selection
>>539792624YOU didn't want no God to run your life YOU didn't want no God to tell you what to do YOU didn't want no God to tell you how to live. So he stepped back, let humanity think he never existed and said PROVE IT!>>539788016 Prove you don't need no God to bring you peace and prosperity. Put your money where your mouth is.
>>539792564Because they are udderly useless?
>>539788016God is evil. It explains jews and christians perfectly.
>>539788016>Adam, Eve and Satan blah blah blah...because you accept middle eastern fairy tales as sooth.your concept of god is equivalent to a 7 year old's concept of Santa Claus.grow the fuck up.
>>539793083On this point I agree with JW namefag. It overlaps with the Vedic wisdom that, as the divine spirit retreats from the earth, the evils of men are magnified. The Bogomils, for instance, spent nearly all of their lives in pursuit of spiritual purification, until the Inquisition murdered them. Christianity is one of the forces on the right in your picrel.
>>539793115But that's their central charm, anon. Most things women have they don't need, after all.
>>539788016Why doesn't your father intervene whenever you get yourself in a bind? Solve your own problems admirably and you won't need God to do it for you.
>>539793360God the Father can be a great charmer. My favorite rendition of him is in the Oera Linda Book, as Wir Alda, because he's so distant. He gives the Frisians their version of the Ten Commandments--much more reasonable than the Christian ones--and then wishes us all well. And he doesn't come back to check on us either.
>>539790597>satan works for god, which is why satanists are stoopid.There are multiple, distinct individuals referred to in the Bible as "satan." The satan in Job appears very likely to be a loyal servant of Yahweh. Whether this satan is the same as the angel who led a third of the angels to fall in rebellion against Yahweh is less clear. It is generally agreed that the angel who rebelled is the same individual as the Snake in Eden, though this is not certain. Whether either are the satan depicted in Job as even muddier still, though it is the most common view.Either way, you are still right in the end. We are all working towards God's ends, even if we try to oppose them. He makes use of every one of us.
Jesus came to earth to teach people or remind them that this is a simulation, and to not take it too seriously. That's it. That was his mission. Then Jews created Christianity and filled it with a bunch of vague shit and goycattle just accept as doctrine. Nobody that has gone to a church service has learned a single thing.>T. Raised Catholic
>>539793704This is a good interpretation. After all, when Jesus and the disciples were stripping that boy naked in the Garden of Gethsemene, his message was basically: "honey, it's not that big of a deal"
>>539788016For god sake, the guy created the entire universe and you're still expecting him to play babysitter? He's probably busy with more important things, like... playing video games.
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>>539791842Sure rabbi, as the talmud say
>>539793950Just read the Bible, christcuck. It's all in there.
>>539793083>So he stepped backkikes would go extinct in a week if he did that
>>539789805>MK Ultra is fake news Yes>Brittany is a ReptilianNot quite, but I'll leave it. Go with Christ
>>539793230Not Christianity, counterfeit Christianity. >>539793360Because there are some problems in life that all human beings are unable to solve. Crime, violence, war, pestilence, poverty, corruption, domestic violence, injustice, suffering are things complete out of our control.
>>539794157It all makes sense now anon
>>539794344> Real Christianity hasn't been tried!It's all so tiresome
>>539788016>Why doesn'the interveneGod is everything all at once.Let's say one of your cell was dying and you had the power to stop it. Why would you? It is a necessary process for your organism to function.Sure, he understands our suffering, but it must happen.
>>539794078Kikes are not kept in power by Jehovah God.
>>539793343I wonder why the grow tits that big, that isnt just for procreation.
>>539793929Not a fucking argument. Is not believing in leprechauns a belief? What other non measurable deities do you believe in? Oh, how convenient for you. You’re just being dishonest, bad faith, with 0 arguments to stand on. Morality is inherent in humans as part of society, you just view it through an infantile lens of “this book written by humans says”. It’s all social conditioning.
>>539794401Yes it has.
>>539794461They're not for procreation at all. Only the nipple is necessary for procreation in mammals. They're solely for tittilation!
>>539794458Obviously yes they are, or they would all be long dead.
>>539794506>Only my sect has found the truthIn this, the Witnesses are perfectly in keeping with every other sect in Christian history.
>>539794464Struck a nerve didn't I? Look, the point is that you being an atheist is still God's will. As long as you are convinced there is no God you are forced to acknowledge pic related. You are forced to acknowledge that the world and its problems are in your hands. It's your responsibility to solve them. It goes right back to these this post. >>539788016 Go solve the problems yourself. Prove you don't need no God.
>>539788397About troons, and how a man can become a woman. That is a complete lie.
>>539794609The difference is that we are the only ones that can prove it. A common misconception is that multiple sects exist because they interpret the Bible differently. On the contrary, they don't use the Bible at all.
>>539794438>he understands our suffering, but it must happen.Why must it happen?
>>539790535God almost always has intervened on the side of evil. Anyone who fully understands the Torah/Job story knows this.The meek shall not inherit this earth.
>>539788511Yes? That's literally the core belief of (((Judeo-Christian))) theology. Edenic thinking and Tikkun Olam horseshit are predicated on the idea that the world was built good by default, and all unhappiness is the result of oppression or sabotage. It treats good, peace, prosperity, and happiness as defaults you are OWED and if you don't experience them at all times then someone stole it from you rather than the byproduct of hardwork to build and something to be maintained. This is why westerners uniquely obssess over how it's not right their random ass intrusive thoughts aren't constantly being fulfilled. It was core to Christianity, comes from Judaism, and it enabled everything from troons to mass migration to fat acceptance. Christcucks only hate that shit now because that dumb fucking thinking they invented eventually turned around and turned on them. It's also why western atheists are such massive fag enablers while Asian ones are more based than most Christians, why no one outside of the Judeo-Christian world ever had any organic woke movements, and why god hating 91% atheist chinks don't have gay marriage but godfearing christians can't legalize it fast enough
>>539788016God is jewish and gay
>>539788016>”If I really have free will, why does God constantly intervene?” You can’t have it both ways.
>OP admits to spamming
>>539793083>hates atheists>post picture of post-christiansLet's compare actual atheists to christians. Pic related.
>>539790535>(Revelation 4:11) “You are worthy, Jehovah, even our God, to receive the glory and the honor and the power, because you created all things, and because of your will they existed and were created.”>Nehemiah 9:6-“You alone are Jehovah; you made the heavens, yes, the heaven of the heavens and all their army, the earth and all that is on it, the seas and all that is in them. And you preserve all of them alive, and the army of the heavens are bowing down to you.>Acts 17:25nor is he served by human hands as if he needed anything,+ because he himself gives to all people life and breath+ and all things. 26And he made out of one man+ every nation of men to dwell on the entire surface of the earth,+ and he decreed the appointed times and the set limits of where men would dwell,+ 27...28For by* him we have life and move and exist,+ even as some of your own poets have said, ‘For we are also his children.Because he created everything. You owe him everything; he owes you nothing. Life is a privilege not a right. No one has the right to live. Because of this, we gladly obey his commandments, obey his son, and vindicate his name around the world.
>>539795254It is a natural effect to their causes.When two celestial bodies collide after being pulled into each others, do you ask why it must happen?When water rains from the sky, do you ask the same loaded question?No, you understand there is mechanisms in the universe and if there wasn't, then the universe wouldn't be.In other words, for the world to exist, the world must have causes and effects.The universe exists because if is causal and it is necessary.
>>539790249>Worship the nigga sending you to eternal torture in flamesStockholme syndrome religious retards. If God is that terrible, it's the higher good and moral duty to not worship that sick fuck.
I fear I am just a terrible person Recently burnt a bridge because a dude who came around to drop off milk and pies for me wouldn't lend me 15 to buy cigarettes. Mouthed off at him drunk at the doorway. Am I just a fuckwit ?
When has Satan ever lied?Actually curious. Maybe he has. Just haven't seen it.I know God has lied multiple times.
>>539790465Because the oldest depictions have him using a wand and a lack of them is a more recent addition.>>539788016Suffering is good and complaining about god from the perspective of the world being imperfect is an innately jewish and, funny enough, christian perspective. If there is no god, then why not have suffering? How do you know suffering is even bad? What makes you think equality is good? We only think that because christians shoved egalitarianism down everyone's throats. If we reject christ, then why not also reject equity? Why should we care about muh natural rights if there is no christ to maintain them? Who's giving us the rights?On TikTok some dumb pagan bitch went viral for presenting the message, "Dear Christians, Aphrodite loves you." Except no, no she fucking doesn't. No one that knows Aphrodite or any of the Greco-Roman gods would preach about them from the perspective of 'love'. The old gods broadly across religions represented nature's fury. They didn't 'love' their followers the way Jesus supposedly does and, at the heights of their temples, their most ardent followers never would have claimed their gods love you. They might respect certain people that earn it, but they do not offer any unconditional love. I find this interesting, because a lot of modern secular woke movements do this exact thing. They cling to ideas that don't make sense without god, yet insist there is no god. Nietzsche warned aboit this phenomenon because it makes no internal sense. Equity as a mindset exists solely due to belief in a god that is all loving, all knowing, and all powerful. To say we are equal without this is saying all dice rolls give a 6 always for no reason, even if done 7 billion times, also all 100 billion dice rolls to have happened historically also landed on 6, and all futire dice rolls will land on 6; but no nothing is making it happen, it just happens naturally.Now understand human DNA has far, far more combinations than a pair of dice.
God exists.But he is pure evil.And I hate him more than any of you can possibly imagine.The proof of his evil is in the world he designed.He probably isn't even the one true god but he is what you all call god so close enough.
>>539791961>Most Heterosexual German
>>539797634God's existence is effectively the same as no God's existence if you think about it long enough. Infinite evil infinite good infinite neutral.
>>539793929>out of the thousands of gods throughout history only mine is real this is you.abrahamics always inevitably jump to the conclusion that if you don't believe that their god real then you believe in no god whatsoever.pfft.
>>539788442>to multiply the fishes and loaves.5 loaves of (daily) bread: 5 books of the penteatuch. the two fish: pisces zodiacHe is multiplying them by being himself. they should be enough to feed the masses but need a little help. so he eats them and makes them a part of himself and then we "eat" him and he becomes a part of ourselves. get it?the sun shines down on the plants. something like 16k tons of plant material is created every second (yes for real. crazy huh? if you find a better number lemme hear it. but it's a crazy amount like that). then the animals and fish eat their daily bread indirectly from the sun. and we learn everything there is under the sun provided to us by life etc and as the sun transits the stars we grow in consciousness and things get written down and shared.anyway, what were we talking about? eat your bread and quit complaining I think he says in that part. but then immediately forgives you for being inpatient and greedy and entitled.
>>539790694>eternity in hell.Not biblical. Its not in there. Aeon is the ammount of time Jonah was in the belly of the whale. Is Jonah still in the belly of the whale today? (You will dodge this.)
>be Christian>tell followers the world is good by default, all suffering is artificial, and every want and need they ever had is caused by sabotage by a snake>tell everyone their intrusive thoughts are right, it's the world that's wrong>the world is built to revolve around them>tell them they are entitled to dignity by virtue of being born>somehow surprised they all turn into troons, fags, and welfare hording thirddiesThe great irony of posts like >>539793083 is that they demand you forget who got the ball rolling on all these faggy social movements to begin with. They rely on libcuck presentism because look back a century ago and it was all christcucks pushing for desegregation, feminism, open borders, and equality. John Brown wasn't an atheist and feminism was created by a bunch if quakers. There's a reason you don't see these ideas gaining ground in godless heathen countries like China or Saudi Arabia, but do see it in the UK, France, German, and the USA. Christians have 0 explaination for this. They literally can't explain it but wokies are literally just christians without the god and the value system dialed up to an extreme. Christians just deny it now because the progressive bullshit they originally invented eventually turned on them. It's extremely telling places where christianity never touched or wad eradicated don't have comparable rates of ass slamming to the christian world. It's fucking mindblowing there are more trannies in the singular city of San Francisco on the emptiest continent on Earth than in the entirety of Thailand on the most populated continent.
>>539788626>these are not the droids youre looking for>I know you are but what am I>nuh uh. level one magic tricks are still unfortunately quite effective.
>>539791864Wow that was the most slithering slip away from the question I've ever seen. No, its not okay you disingenuous snake. So why the fuck is God saying to DO THE KILLING OF THE CHILDREN FOR THEM?
>>539788016god doesnt conform to your will. a god would be beyond human understanding, and you are trying to personify god as some sort of being who should be loving and helping you out. if you want a better idea of god spend a few weeks in the woods. observe nature. nature is not "a good guy", its severe and uncaring, yet inside of that brutality humans exist with capability of complex emotions and love.
>>539791864>throwing children into ovens was a good thing?Depends, what race were the children?
>>539798114Why does he need the magic wand, anon?
>>539788626Under that logic Christianity can be safely dismissed because Islam is defeating it.
>>539798214>Christians have 0 explaination for this. They literally can't explain itIt's been answered before >(2 Timothy 4:3, 4) For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories.>(Matthew 7:21) “Not everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.>(Matthew 7:15) “Be on the watch for the false prophets that come to YOU in sheep’s covering, but inside they are ravenous wolves.>(Acts 20:29) I know that after my going away oppressive wolves will enter in among YOU and will not treat the flock with tenderness,>(2 Peter 2:1) However, there also came to be false prophets among the people, as there will also be false teachers among YOU. These very ones will quietly bring in destructive sects and will disown even the owner that bought them, bringing speedy destruction upon themselves.>(1 Timothy 4:1) However, the inspired utterance says definitely that in later periods of time some will fall away from the faith, paying attention to misleading inspired utterances and teachings of demons,Most "Christians" aren't even Christians by Biblical standards. Most people are not aware that Christians are not Christians just because they say so or identify as one. No more than a Transfag is a "woman" because he says so or he identifies as one. There are rules, laws, and specifications one must have to be something.99% of Christians on Earth today are not Christians at all but morons who are unaware of their Un-Christian state. Less than 1% of Christendom on earth today IS THE REAL Christianity. Sects that are involved in worldly affairs are false Sects.
>>539798400To be fair, its not in the Bible, its just something that the guys painting the scenes put in there.
>>539798464And you literally CANNOT tell what the right sect is. The true believes dont even know that they've got it right. There's no testing you can do to find out beyond vibes. Its utterly rigged.
>>539798482My favorite Jesus stories are in the Gospel of Thomas, where Child Jesus kills other children with his magic, just to level up kek.
>>539798704What verse? Haven't read that book.
>>539798464>It's been answered beforeYeah, except christians talk two ways out of their mouth on this because it flies in the face of christianity for christianity's own answer to be correct. If god is all loving, then why do this whole song and dance at all? Why not just obliterate evil with that infinite power already? Doesn't sound all loving of him to not do it.The final redpill is I already agree with your answer to the above question. It's YOU who doesn't agree with it. You will post some half-hearted explaination about hoe pain is necessary for growth but that reply is always half-hearted because christians themselves don't believe that. Christians believe utopia exists, that total happiness is possible, and that the imperfections of the world are a bug, not a feature. That completely spits in the face of any 'fix' christians can propose to address the problem of evil. Pain is good and luxury is a bad teacher, but christianity's own core worldview fundamentally rejects that on a core level, causing it to schizophrenically alternate between trying to reconcile the necessity of a delayed sense of gratification with the fact even having one is sinful in christianity as 'it's easier for a camel to walk through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven.'tl;dr: The answer is that pain is good and god wants you to be a man, not a pussy, but not your god, your god promotes and teaches faggot shit that runs contrary to that conclusion, so how the fuck can a christian (or a jew for that matter) say pain is necessary when pain being an unnecessary addition satan caused is part of your own theology?
>>539798704Oh you mean the childhood stories, yes, I havent read Thomas but I know what youre talking about and found it kind of interesting. It could possibly work that he was a sinning human until his baptism. In mark God clearly says TODAY youre my son
>>539798333you are trying to personify god as some sort of being who should be loving and helping you out.>Matt 6:25-32 - Stop being anxious about YOUR souls as to what YOU will eat or what YOU will drink, or about YOUR bodies as to what YOU will wear. Does not the soul mean more than food and the body than clothing? 26Observe intently the birds of heaven, because they do not sow seed or reap or gather into storehouses; still YOUR heavenly Father feeds them. Are YOU not worth more than they are? 27Who of YOU by being anxious can add one cubit to his life span? 28Also, on the matter of clothing, why are YOU anxious? Take a lesson from the lilies of the field, how they are growing; they do not toil, nor do they spin; 29but I say to YOU that not even Solo·mon in all his glory was arrayed as one of these. 30If, now, God thus clothes the vegetation of the field, which is here today and tomorrow is thrown into the oven, will he not much rather clothe YOU, YOU with little faith? 31So never be anxious and say, ‘What are we to eat?’ or, ‘What are we to drink?’ or, ‘What are we to put on?’ 32For all these are the things the nations are eagerly pursuing. For YOUR heavenly Father knows YOU need all these things.
>>539798464China is 91% atheist. Can fags marry in China? Would China tolerate nasty coons running around setting fire to businesses? I have no idea if racial discrimination is legal in China because no business that does it ever seems to see any sort of reprisal from the law, at least nowhere in Xian that I saw. If they didn't want niggers they would just say it. Can I do that in the US?
It was a crazy time. Jesus was part of a huge Jewish movement of batshit kike magician necromancers, and central to their belief system was that: When a necromancer died, you could absorb his power for yourself. So these kike necromancers were constantly killing each other off and then digging each other out of their graves. Early versions of the crucifixion basically has these other kikes desperate for Jesus to die so they can come and absorb his necromancy magic lol
>If there is a God why does he not intervene?because you're not worth the effort you pathetic pos.
>>539788016>why does hehum. I prefer a she, but I don't think it matters, any flavor you like, really. The point is that you have faith, no?Whichever idea it was that was responsible for the instantiation of the Universe - that's what everyone's on about and ideas are tricky because they're a derivative of information and by extension physics SO, this idea of why would he or she allow such of this and none of another is nonsense - it's not how it works you'd be getting mad at what is only the natural convergence of a self optimizing system so what are you going to do, go curse what is effectively the birth giver of calculus and shake your fist in some administrative mannerWell you know the saying, man plans and God laughs though by technicality the irony is that the universe being predominantly ironic is in fact emergent behavior of the system i've described here and that it ironically ironic but that's just what happens when you optimize chaos recursively you mathematically force a wavefunction collapse to finality, eventually, after a few billion years or soTL;DR >it's a skill issue of the observer
The word for wand in Greek is rabdos, and Jesus is constantly telling the disciples about whether or not to bring their wands with them wherever they're going. It's basically a Harry Potter story, where Harry is worried that the Muggles will notice lol
I just want a single example of the father of lies lying. Surely, that's not too much to ask for?
>>539798680A common misconception is that multiple sects exist because they interpret the Bible differently. On the contrary, multiple sects exist because they DON'T use the Bible at all. You can just simply compare the doctrines of each sect and prove them wrong using the Bible. You can filter out 99.9% of Christian sects by doing that. You don't even have to be a Christian scholars or theologian.
>>539798464You call wokies and trannies satanic because you know that is the logical conclusion of all the stupid gay tolerance shit you spent centuries preaching is too much for you to accept. You shout satan because you know full well the cause is jesus. They literally are more christian than you. Christian ideas are the core of their justifications. Modern right wing philosophy is bending over backwards to try to adapt the self-evident truths of social darwinism while trying to reconcile them with christianity by trying to rewrite christianity into a master morality religion it was never meant to be or intended to function for. Christianity is literally a slave religion. I don't mean "religion for people i dislike for X reason" I mean "indentured servants working in Rome who were living property." It was written to appeal to those without any power or agency to empower them. Since christianity became the dominant force in the west, it has warred with itself because it was written for people getting whipped, not the ones doing the whipping, so it has to invent mental gymnastics to justify its own power and always, without fail, has organic dissent movements that tear ITSELF down because they think true christianity is being a cuck and being in charge in any capacity is evil. This is why wokism is uniquely a western phenomenon. Being a victim is virtuous in christianity. To dominate others is sinful. Thus, when christianity rules, it eventually splits between an ever shrinking group of conservatives trying to grab at straws for any Bible passage that could even loosly be interpreted as a defense of master morality and liberals who inevitably grow to outnumber them (because christians half a half-life until they decay into wokies and eventually you reach a tipping point where christianity's own morals justify dismantling christianity and the people who think so become numerous enough to be a threat).
>>539799210Matthew and Mark don't agree on whether Jesus told the disciples to bring their magic wands. Matthew has "leave your wands at home" and Mark has "brings those wands!" Kek
>>539798803>If god is all loving, then why do this whole song and dance at all? Why not just obliterate evil with that infinite power already? Doesn't sound all loving of him to not do it.Ironically, this is what the entire thread is about. This is also answered at the beginning of the OP. >>539788016>>539798803>how the fuck can a christian (or a jew for that matter) say pain is necessary when pain being an unnecessary addition satan caused is part of your own theology?Simple, this is not a Bible teaching.
>>539799424Jesus is definitely the ultimate tranny, and as other anons have noted elsewhere, the reconciliation of opposites is central to Judaism, Jesus' magic, and to transgender ideology. Transgender Jesus is "good theology" kek
>>539798272>>539798160>>539791864>runs away Not surprised.
Since I'm not still getting now or ever a single instance of Satan lying, I'm just gonna go on thinking he has bad PR or something.
>>539799424Notice how you keep saying "Christianity" over and over again because you are trying to pull the argument back into the fallacy of generalization. There's no such thing as "christianity," only thousands of sects trying to claim that throne. We are not united sects holding hands. We are all separate religions who hate each other. What you need to do is study the Bible to determine which sect is the real Christianity.Most "Christians" aren't even Christians by Biblical standards. Most people are not aware that Christians are not Christians just because they say so or identify as one. No more than a Transfag is a "woman" because he says so or he identifies as one. There are rules, laws, and specifications one must have to be something.99% of Christians on Earth today are not Christians at all but morons who are unaware of their Un-Christian state. Less than 1% of Christendom on earth today IS THE REAL Christianity. But the mainstream you know of and accept are not. Your problem is that you are all over-generalizing with the word "Christian." Only the mainstream sects are dying. WE, pic related, are doing just fine.
Anon we both know that the only lasting ‘intervention’ would be the complete and utter annihilation of the human race. Do you really think that any entity above your primitive understanding of a higher consciousness would actually be fooled by your hare-brained attempts at representing yourself as some kind of rational, benevolent creature? You’re a failed, volatile experiment - and the only reason the slate hasn’t been wiped clean is because it would irreparably shift the moral alignment of everyone involved to dispose of you. And nobody is going to do that for you anon, you simply aren’t that important on a grander scale. Why don’t you try to take a week off from being so exhaustingly primitive and evil instead?
>>539799689I commented about this question briefly above : >>539789542 Basically, Satan/ Prometheus prefers to lie by not telling the whole truth. In other words, he's a great salesman.
>>539788016People strayed away from God, blame your stupid grandfathers for allowing increasingly secular goverments to take place. It is what it is, if we followed Gods plan in being fruitful and multiplying and put women under the big old thump none of this would be happenning.
>>539799689Here>>539789303
>>539788016If God intervenes you call him an evil oppressor.So he gave you free will to learn from your mistakes.Or not.t. Dad.
>>539799389No, because for example, Jesus being God is what I gathered from reading it. You dont say you and God are one and the same if you're subordinate.And why the FUCK should one be punished for reading a text and being simply INCORRECT? Maybe i am wrong, thats fine, but he did NOT make it clear and its fucking twisted to torture someone for being mistaken.
>>539799553>christcuck so brainwashed he tuned out the questionHey dumbass, my conclusion was the exact antithesis of what you niggers argue about. Let me summarize it for you.>"If God love, then why suffer">"Suffer is a feature, not a bug">"Yeah, but Satan invent suffer">"Yeah, cause suffer is a bug not a feature"You've never encountered this argument before because prior to regular contact with Asians right wing atheism basically didn't exist in the west. I'm telling you that you are a libcuck anon. You are only very slightly to the right of the trannies you argue with. You believe all the same shit they do.No, the OP's topic is not connected to my question, because you and me are, at least theoretically, on the same page that western secularists are massive faggots on this issue and they deserve to have their degenerate impulses 'oppressed' rather than encouraged. My point is that christianity was the reason they thought they were entitled to have their every intrusive thought catered to in the first place. Fuck, I shit on their side in this very fucking thread multiple times. In fact >>539797572 is me. Most of that post is me mocking secularists for shitting on christianity while still relying on it to justify their own retarded ideas.
Aeschylus does a great job putting the same question we're debating into the mouth of Prometheus:"O you heavenly skies and swift-winged winds, you river springs, you countless smiling waves on ocean seas, and Earth, you mother of all, you all-seeing circle of the celestial sun—I summon you to see what I, a god, am suffering at the hands of gods."He wants a higher justice.
>>539788511He gave us blacks? Would a loving God do that ?
>>539800051> Niggers build character, son> t. God
>>539788016Why would he save a people who are so pathetic they allow Jews, faggots, women and niggers to rule over them
>>539788016Simple faggot.God laid out rules to follow and consequences for breaking or bending those rules. You are accountable for your own actions, if bad shit is happening to you it's your fault.
>>539799553>Simple, this is not a Bible teaching.Okay, then if God good then why bad happen?
>>539788016>and he saw all that he had created, and saw that it was good, the evening and the morning, were the sixth day>and on the seventh day, he rested.but having everything perfect and good wasn't enough, so you decided to eat of the tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, so he came down to earth, a second time, and died on the cross.and that wasn't enough, and you decided to kill MORE innocents.he already intervened, and you have rejected him and killed everyone that tried to lead you to him,so that there'd finally be peace.next time he intervenes there wont be a flood, there will be fire and brimstone and all of you will burn for all eternity.
>>539789303>God lied and you won't die from eating the fruit.Adem and Eve where immortal before eating those fruits.>>Eating the fruit will give you sovereignty like God and be able to decide for yourselves right from wrong.Along with sovereignty comes responsibility for your actions. To include death and suffering for mistakes.>>Any human that is loyal to God is only doing so out of selfish gain.Just because you are a materialistic faggot chasing your next high does not mean humans think like that.
>>539799784>>539799702>>539799553>>539799389So are you just gonna pretend this wasn't said?,: >>539798272
>>539788467that's a female pretending to be a troon
>>539793083jew mad
>>539799553>Simple, this is not a Bible teaching.What you say in the OP isn't Bible teaching? Cool, I'll disregarded then and ask you why God allows suffering, cause you sure as shit don't seem to have an answer given you yourself just discounted your own three counterpoints.Either:>Good is default, evil is an aberration, everything is naturally good and anything that inhibits happiness is invisible oppression, wokeness is implied. Suffering is a bug, not a feature.>Evil is natural, civilization is built through effort, man is a rising beast, Eden is woke hippie nonsense spread by kikes to further Tikkun Olam. Heaven is Hell because it is a stagnent lie. Suffering is a feature, not a bug.
>>539797558No.the serpent in garden didn't lie the angel in Job did what God allowed.the angel that tempted Jesus didn't lie.Off the top of my head these three cases are the only instances of interaction that I know of
> jewish ethnic God sometimes lie> his natural adversary always speaks the truthnothing to see here, pray along
>>539799717>Anon we both know that the only lasting ‘intervention’ would be the complete and utter annihilation of the human raceExactly. Pic related. It's called Armageddon. God's going to execute 99% of the planet.
>>539788016You dont think this is what all this is about? Why jesus came? To free you. You ever read old Greek myths, and bible stories? Eve could create new life, Satan got jealous of her, cause he didn't have tgat power, tricked her into coming here, "the tree of life" backwater, hellish. God banned her and Adam from coming here, cause of the untold pain and suffering here. She ate a fruit, meaning she took part in death, even killing fruit was bad. Adam lied for her, rules and the body now adjusted to here got them stuck. Babies in womb absorbed what she are, so you take part in death even before born. Been a war ever since, time is faster in heaven. What seemed to them as days was countless years here. God sent jesus to die for us. As he Bing son of God, God like was a suitable swap to get us out. It's end game now, Satan born in middle east and sent back best genrals, like Alexander for final battle. But, jesus and God have sent theirs, because they want humans to throw off their oppressors with their own hands, with help. I know of a few sent. Archangel Michael, an angel calked "ox" Joan of arch.. etc. What's weird is. I know of 3 angels born in Australia. Joan of arch is in Australia. So, seems worlds final fight, comes out of Australia. God doesn't spoon feed, wants us to grow.
>>539800206>they allow Jews, faggots, women and niggers to rule over themBecause the idea is that you NON-BELIEVERS, Atheists and intellectuals are going to put your money where your mouth is and solve all the world's problems yourself. This includes all the false religions and false Christian sects squeezed in there with you as well. Pic related. Fix it. I the meantime, there is no God
>>539788016>If God why evilHave you ever heard of the resurrection and how all things will be judged and made anew? Faith is not about to bring you material rewards; if anything it will make life harder
>>539788274did pythagoras use his fingers to draw triangles into the dirt ?
>>539798160based and whipping the false prophets pilled
>>539788016Who knows but there must be a supernatural force that created the universe or our science is wrong or incomplete. Right now the creation of our universe contradicts known scientific laws.
>>539798680>Its utterly rigged.could it be ?
