The USS Enterprise was at sea returning from Wake Island, the USS Lexington was delivering planes near Midway Atoll, and the USS Saratoga was in San Diego. https://www.warhistoryonline.com/war-articles/uss-enterprise-and-pearl-harbor.html
>>539803385 Jap Route.
>>539803385Never understood why japsoids believed even if they took out the entire US navy it would make them win? USA created in a few years the biggest navy on the entire planet very easily.
>>539803542they believed the Americans would let them take over Asia. by doing pearl harbor they sent a message to not fuck with them though the Americans took it as an invitation to total war
>>539803542All Axis powers were retards when it came to diplomacy and foreign policies. The only smart one sort of on their side was Spain. The rest took the most braindead decisions they could and then left the army to try and fix them.
>>539803542>Never understoodThey were desperate and took a gamble. US did exactly what the japs warned them not to do, but the US wanted the war and needed a 9-11, uh I mean Perl Harbor catalyzing event to get the political support for the war. US cut off oil imports and the situation was not going to improve so it was attack or fold.
>>539803542They were pretty butthurt when we banned japanese immigration in the 20s and it just kind of went downhill from there
>>539803703>US wanted the warWhy? This world war is a bit of a misnomer. There was a war in Europe. America showed up late then pivoted to their other flank. It was just another mutt tantrum against the world
>>539803385Reminder, US submarines are near solely responsible for the defeat of Japan, by mid 1944 the Japanese home islands were so woefully cut off from the rest the world starvation was imminent and there was zero supply lines remaining, not only was Japan isolated, but entire islands that were captured by the Japanese were cut off, and instead of recapturing, the US navy simply sailed on pass, and let the jap troops starve to death
>>539803385more boomer midwittery>the US knew the attack was comingmaybe. but the Japanese absolutely knew the attack was coming and they attacked anywayare they now complicit in the conspiracy?
>>539803806>America showed up lateUS convey system was in place by the battle of Britain, the Battle of the Atlantic was the biggest and longest campaign of the war. The US supplies to England alone is responsible for Germany never been able to advance past France
>>539803912>America was running logistics Fair enough. Would that explain the pivot to Japan. The military industrial complex couldn't shut down and needed a market for their death stuff
>>539803912>The US supplies to England alone is responsible for Germany never been able to advance past FranceLolMutts believe their own propaganda and think they won ww2
>>539803831Reminder the US had a great deal of help against the japs, and if they where on their own would probably still be fighting in the Pacific
>>539804099US bases from your home country were committing the first strikes against Japan just days after Pearl harbor
>>539804099The only reason Hitler invaded Russia when he did is because he needed to guarantee resource security for the upcoming attrition war against America
>>539804149Lol, I see how you're confused now>>539804164
>>539803703>We deserve to buy American oil for our war effortHow about not.Should have invaded Indonesia and take the oil there then war would not be as likely, waking the big mutt and giving them the best possible attack to make the population pro war was an Indian IQ move.
>>539804215America blockade Japans oil from Java before pearls harbour. That was an act of war
>>539803703>nooo you HAVE TO give us your oil2 nukes weren't enough
>>539804099Without American help our navy would have starved ungerland especially since half of the British navy was busy against Japan.Doing nothing against USA would have resulted in England continuing as usual and going full submarine warfare could do a difference but definitely get the USA in the war too.It was a pat situation for us.
>>539804215German Uboats were already off the eastern sea board and sinking ships before dec 7th, they weren't supposed to, but they were, war on Germany was inevitable
>>539803542the japs forgot that a work a work and worked themselves into a shoot, marks
>>539804149English throwing poopjeets against Chinese volunteers did not hurt the English neither the Japanese.Real game changing campaigns were all done by the Americans.
>>539803542A lot of them knew it was unwinnable they just were shut out of decision making. I remember reading one study they did pre war they realised the US made more steel in a month than Japan did in a year
>>539804366>They weren't supposed toWhy is that?
>>539804348That really wasn't going to happenBrits dunked on our navy and then on yours despite having half their fleet on the other side of the world.Besides, they were scared of the Japs and simply parked their fleet in India to avoid fighting themWithout American intervention England would still stand while Japan would die from a lack of oil slowlyThis reality is the closest the Axis ever got to winning the war, tons of unlikely things happened, but there's simply no way they could have won
>>539804170LolRussia traded Germany most of its oil, hitler the retard could of just kept buying instead of chimping out
>>539804348The brits had the largest navy in the world, just the brits, if you add canada, aust & nz, African and Asian countries they had, they would of had no issue on the water
>>539804564Stalin violated the peace treaty when he annexed bukovina which put him in striking range of the oil. That's the moment Hitler greenlit operation Barbarossa
>>539804471>I remember reading one study they did pre war they realised the US made more steel in a month than Japan did in a yearBefore the war began, German spies, and German-Americans who had lived in the US, tried to expain to Hitler about the sheer industry of America, how much lumber, steel, oil, ect, it could produce, but he didnt believe it or was uninterested. Top German officials begged him to visit the US while peace relations were still high so he could see for himself, but he just wouldnt
>>539804418Nope, the jap numbers don't lie
>>539804528The british Pacific fleet bpf was certainly not scared of the japs and once assembled actively headed towards them to engage, and it was more than capable of defeating them
>>539804627>The brits had the largest navy in the world,in 1940, a year later, not so much
>>539804528>the AxisWhat united the axis? Was it hatred of Anglophones
>>539804564A churka gypsy couldn't be trusted.
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>>539804756Losers of WW1 wanting revenge (Germany, Italy, Hungary, Bulgaria) and lesser countries getting dragged in (Romania). Yes Italy was a loser in WW1, millions of casualties and no rewards at all.Japan was different entirely, usual asian bugmen high on their own supply
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>>539804846>Losers of WW1Ah, not grateful for their gift of regicide. Republican early life problems
>>539804756Mutual enemies
>>539804628Hitler did that earlier when he demanded the Suwałki Strip
>>539804753Yep in 41 too, and 42
>>539804756Italy got sanctioned by France and England when he invaded ethopia so he was pushed in our hands.Hungary was butthurt about WWI and we gave them some land from Romania. Bulgaria was promised Land they believed was Bulgarian. Romania was invaded by the Soviets and stole some of their land and wanted it back and hitler approved of that. Croatia were allowed to do what they want in the Balkans going hard genocide.Japan was at war with France and England so it's obvious
>>539803385They knew about it beforehand and wanted it to happen, just like every other suspicious incident involving ships.
>>539805012So the French started it, then threw up their hands and said, "let's you and him fight"!. That's brilliant; la Diplomacé
>>539804983Wrong
>>539803683I still don't understand how Spain managed to keep out of the war.
>>539805010no they didnt, you fucking retard
>>539805227 because they're lazy.
>>539805010The US merchant Marine alone dwarfed the RN
>>539805227Spain was run by the Vatican they were worthless for Hitler
>>539805227They were the curtain raiser; didn't need to get restomped
>>539803385That was nothing compared to what is coming.
>>539803385Yea I always wondered why Japanese subs never shadowed all the carriers and hit them at the same time.
>>539803385Nephew of the opium trader drug baron, Delano Roosevelt, moved the fleet from San Diego to Pearl; thereby, creating a 2,000mi supply line vulnerability, and proceeded to sacked the lead admiral of navy, James Richards for his demurs. Obviously, the carriers were not going to be sacrificed.>a casus belli had to be created to ward off the marauding kike Russkis from the Pacific, and to test the bombs on civilians
>>539803627No. I’ve made this post so many goddam times on pol with sources so I’m going to super summarize it for you.>jew in for ear wants war with Germany>knows war with Japan will trigger German declaration>harasses Japanese supply lines, forces Dutch to join embargo, tries repeatedly to get Japanese ships to fire on them to start an incident. >creates operation to firebomb Tokyo from china using American pilots and planes>knows oil embargo will start war>they get what they want. Zionist’s have been a plague for 150 years, or possibly back to the renaissance.
>>539805712In fdr’s ear***
>>539805712>possibly back to the renaissanceBlame Napoleon.
>>539805712>creates operation to firebomb Tokyo from china using American pilots and planesThis is new to me. Moar pls
>>539805712>creates operation to firebomb Tokyo from china using American pilots and planesJust as with Germany, the Allies fire-bombed nip cities 69 times. In terms of kill count, Tokyo is as much a meme as the A-bombs were.
>>539803542Two incompatible ideas, that the american public would not support a long, pointless war over far away islands, and that japan could knock out enough ships with a surprise attack that the war would drag on due to the need to build replacements. Each of them has some merit but you can't really combine them, people wont blame their government for the war when they're sneak attacked.
>>539805712Most /pol users are bown nowadays, they don't know this things. I bet they still believe Lusitania was just civilians and that germans were turning people into soap during WWI
>>539805863>>539805985https://www.wearethemighty.com/mighty-history/secret-plan-firebomb-japan/This was before the war.
>>539806198It was set for November.Basically aircraft production delays caused the operation to be moved back a few months, but then Pearl Harbor happened. Many planes were already en route or in china waiting.
>>539806317Oh, and btw, the fdr’s economic advisor currie, the one who pushed for plan jb-355(this plan to firebomb Tokyo before the war) when others didn’t want it, has now been confirmed to have been a Soviet agent.
>>539806559And Currie, worked closely in the treasury department with now known Jewish Soviet agent Harry Dexter White, and known Jewish Zionist who is arguably responsible for the entire war with Japan, morgenthau.
But I guess ya’ll aren’t ready for century old red pills.
>>539806741Oh and one more name, harry hopkins was involved in planning, the harry hopkins that was in charge of soviet affairs, and married to a Hungarian Jewish liberal activist.
>>539803542Same as Napoleon or Hitler attacking Russia.When you know the other fuckers *will* attack you, your only choice it to attack when you are ready instead of waiting for them to fully be.1% chance to win right now is better than 0% to win later.
>>539806741Thanks anon! I got sidetracked by real life. This is great stuff. I often post about the oil blockade but this is way more
>>539805712>knows war with Japan will trigger German declarationIt did not have to. Germany was just retarded.
>>539803683>they were all retards!t. retard
>>539805227They weren't invited to our war and were unable to do anything anyway since they were completely destroyed by the civil war. Their economy and industry was a joke so they couldn't be helpful in any way.Italy should have done the same.
>>539806198The British and french in the international city of Shanghai carried on as usual until america forced Japan into the war. Killing chinks wasn't a big deal, everyone did it. Honkers and shankers did the banking for the opium
>>539807349We didn't knew how much you enjoyed to be slaves and died in the tens of millions to continue to be slaves.Attacking america was logical since they attacked our uboats already and prevented the English from starving.
>>539807653Am I getting this right >America fights proxy war in Europe >America declares war on Eastern country >Proxy war deproxifiesThat could never happen today!
>>539807913>Germany strats a retarded war against USSR>begs Japan to join>"fuck you, kraut, nippon busy. you fight arone!">Japan declares a retarded war on the US>asks Germany to help>"yes greatest ally, I will commit suicide for you!">Germany gets destroyedIt was something like this
>>539808064>Germany strats a retarded war against USSRWasn't that because the Cheka was plotting and chanting >Japan declaresWe uncovered that itt, Americans were plotting and charting and firebombing within 2 weeks
>>539808288Soviets planned an invasion of Europe but they still needed years to fix the endless problems they still had.If they would have actually done it who knows but they prepared hard for it.Just like their entire air force was destroyed withing days.... On the ground.Having your entire air force at the border is clearly a defensive move right...
>>539808288>ayo, u no understand, I be robbin' that drug store because cops were scheming an arrest on my ass>they racist, man, I tell you. tthose bitch ass crackers were always against me>my homie, Tyrone? he just be shootin' that punk bitch ass fool cause he deserved it>and gun store said no more guns for you, you start shit with them>you don't tell a nigga he can buy no guns, yo. you getting your ass whooped for that>and now we are both in jail and I tell ya, it is all fault of that racist cops>they always keep' us, black folk down>we wuz aryanz and sheit...Textbook nigger behaviour
>>539808635Yet the Soviets had no problems to rob east Europe together with us.
>>539808635Mordor was a land of peace and prosperity.Gollum was demoralised by gandalf shills and started to blame sauron. Vile rumors circulated that morgoth was a bad God....Hobbits and orcs chanting, no more brother wars>Can't be bothering to green text correctly; analogous too confusing
>>539809192funny, cause tolkien based his Mordor on Germany and orcs on Germans
>>539803385Admiral Larry Silverstein is very lucky.
>>539809235I thought it was boers that he noooticed in Bloemfontein
>>539808933Okay I think I got it. The war was a pivot from the used up golems of the yiddish era to the new and improved red white and blue golems where the tricolor represents judeo-masonic unreconcilable values of liberty and equality for the fraternities
>>539803542They expected us to send the remainder of the fleet to save MacArthur in the Philippines, so they could sink it while they had temporary superiority, then sue for peace, give the Philippines back, etc. Take Hawaii if we wouldn’t do it, then negotiate with that too. Needless to say, that didn’t pan out
>>539804668The war wouldn’t have happened if they hadn’t been in China, and the war in India was just a sideshow to that. The Australians tying up jap ships supporting New Guinea was the only real help we got. The land warfare shit was basically irrelevant
