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Unironically, when will the gloves come off? They've been trapped in the slowest war of attrition with a country with 4x less men for 13 years and advanced a whopping 60km east since 2014. What's even the goal here?
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Down to x2 less men now. Still some work to do.
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There turned out to be a few more Nazis than they thought.
But don't worry, Putin will soon finally make Europe a safe place for the Jews.
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>>539808521
>What's even the goal here?
something something nato soros globohomo
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>>539808521
>What's even the goal here?
Killing gentiles
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Giving up would almost certainly result in collapse so Putin is sacrificing everyone able to rise up in the future for the chance of victory.
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>>539808521
Their 50 to 100 year plans hinge on them being viewed as less unhinged than NATO, and they're succeeding.
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>>539808521
ziggers tongue my anus
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Why are they like this?
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Perhaps they feel that a victory through the sort of "suicide" burning of all the country's assets would hurt them too much. They could, for example, confiscate all the savings from the Russian people, their bank balances, homes, stocks and other investments to fund the war. They could also draft everyone and also stop paying the soldiers.

Perhaps they feel that they'll break Ukraine at the current level of attrition eventually.
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>>539808706
If that was their plan then they could have just done nothing while waiting until Trump confused Iran for a child and tried to stick his dick in it.
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>>539808521
Jewting and Jewlensky want their White populations to die out and be replaced by jeets and blacks. You retards keep thinking the war is about "winning" when it's about wiping out the natives.
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>>539808521
Hold Crimea and the donbas as stated from the outset.
>Why is Russia only doing what was stated as their initial goal they are supposed to be trying to crush Kiev
Propaganda got you real bad sweety.
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>>539808521
Putin intentionally sabotages the troops.
For example be held them back from blocking Odessa for 5 years. Now the RAF gave enacted a blockade within a single week in response to the bombings
Meaning Putler allowed , intentionally countless of arms and supplies that went on to murder Russians through the port of Odessa to use it as a potential escalation leverage , which is not only dumb but treasonous to the RF.
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Their nukes don't work.

It's the only explanation. The West is bombing the Russian homeland, eviscerating their economy, and we could probably kill the bald monkee if we gave Z the order.

No other country would take this if they had a choice. Russia couldn't maintain its Soviet era nukes and now they are literally defenseless.

I swear to God NATO will intervene directly soon and will have troops in Moscow next year.
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>>539809118
>We didn't NEED to defend Moscow anyway
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>>539808521
They really are the this weak. That's how it is.
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I'm waiting for these bad boys to finally show up and capture kiev in a week
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>>539809234
Pointless false equivalency but I'll bite.
Moscow never fell.
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>>539809300
>You don't understand, it's alright if they bomb our city to shit as long as they don't take it off us
Man up and stop hiding in the embassy, Simeon
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>>539809253
You should invade too and see what comes about. Should be a walk in the park, right?
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Not enough discord trannies have 41%ed themselves yet for the cause. Pidor discord trannies must join their zisters
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>>539809343
Still haven't rebutted my very valid and proven point.
Russia said its goal was to take the Donbass and reoccupy Crimea both of which were completed in the first month of the conflict.
You fools have been coping for year Russia won by achieving all its stated goals.
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For political reasons they have to take Donbass so that they can proclaim a win. Russian life is cheap so they don't really care about their casualties or the glacial rate of advance as long as they achieve that objective at some point.

It's the same oriental mentality you saw in China during covid. It was retarded to weld people into their homes and destroy your economy over a flu but because Xi and the CCP had proclaimed the zero covid policy they had to do that in order to save face no matter the cost. It's autistic.
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>>539809431
>Russia won by achieving all its stated goals
And they didn't even have to take their gloves off.
NAFO btfo.
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>>539809431
>Russia said its goal
... was to lose a million men (and counting) eating fpvs and killing themselves

Pidorniggers are liars and you cannot believe anything they said. They tried to invade Kyiv and were defeated handily. Now they cope by killing themselves in the donbas.
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>>539809421
SBU agent goes KABOOM in car bomb
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We're winni- AAAACKK
The goal has been achie- AAACKKKKKK
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> wishcasting on /pol/ will win the SMO
Meanwhile: zigger trannies realise they will never be women
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After day 1,700, the gloves will come o- AAAAAAACK!
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>>539808521
Even with the combat losses Russia population has increased because they now own crimea and the donbas.
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>>539809554
>>539809589
>>539809623
Asspained Polish Diaspora
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>>539809826
Cry more buckbroken waldi
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>>539808567
Back at work bongjeet?
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>>539808567
Tick tock. I'll be waiting
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>>539808521
A retarded jewish polack wont do shit but sit on their fat ass and fizz about it all
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>>539809372
I honestly think it would be at this point
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>>539810047
even in their current degraded state the ukrandans would completely humiliate any western fighting force
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>>539808608
also muh HATO bio-soldier ukronazi killbots
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Imagine Progozhin had waited until now.
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>>539808521
Wars, only mean non-jews sacrifice. Bonus points if they are whites.
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>>539808521
russia had to do this, because ukraine and the west would have attacked them sooner or later. look at napoleon. look at hitler.

if they would have waited, it would have just been worse
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>>539809874
really tho, how badly burnt is your ass?
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>>539810321
Not as badly as your tranny friend here. Thanks for (You)ing me nigger
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>>539808521
taking crimea back any second now?
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>>539808707
youd like that pidor
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In every Ukraine/Russia war thread their is always a Brit that hates Russia more than Ukrainians do, why do the British hate Russia do much?
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>>539810574
I am every single British poster on 4chan of past and future. Cope harder memeflaggot tranny
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>>539809372
>no u
its a fair point. the ukros would a tough fight for anyone at this point.
the thing that kinda changes shit tho, is if the west were to suddenly fight them, ukros would lose all of that western material and intelligence support. which WOULD make a rly big difference. so it wouldnt be 1:1 with what ruskies are contending with rn
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>>539810667

I never said it was always you, silly.
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>>539810300
this is a retarded take
half the west was so far up its own ass that it didnt even have a military to give to ukros until like 3yrs after the war broke back out, and like 10+yrs after the initial occupation of crimea.
if the west was planning an invasion of russia, wouldnt they have ALREADY built up their military? long before putin ever even invaded?

its stupid whataboutism. it didnt happen, and it obviously wasnt going to happen. it was just some fake casus beli that putin dreamed up as an excuse to restart the invasion of ukraine. the only one invading anyone has been russia. and theyve done it multiple times now in the modern day
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>>539808521
right after hollapidars start to win and not begging for freezing the conflict
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>>539808521
>What's even the goal here?
good question
try to determine the amount of human resources that the russian economy would deem as useless eaters, could this number correlate with the number of disposed/wasted conscripts/soldiers ?
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>>539809973
based and total attrition pilled
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>>539810383
>your tranny friend
that does not even make sense
ukraine / nato are the ones using trannies
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>>539808521
Putin will announce full mobilisation in late September after the Duma elections are finished.
That will call up an estimated 500,000 Russian men. At that point Ukraine is fully fucked, they're already down to skeleton manning levels due to the damage Russia has inflicted on them.
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>>539812807
Those 500k russian men will all die, and in return Russia will gain 2 small cities (destroyed) and a dozen small neighborhoods (also destroyed).
The front line will move move 5km towards Kiev.
Huge win for Russia.
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>>539812807
Lol Europe won't allow Ukraine to lose, if things are looking dire NATO will throw the russians out.
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>>539808521
2 more weeks
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>>539809505
Using the ol behind the eastern Front work camp just trust me bro counting system I see.

Just face it mate your burisma/Biden fiasco came undone.
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>>539808521
in 336 Hours
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>>539810880
>if the west was planning an invasion of russia, wouldnt they have ALREADY built up their military? long before putin ever even invaded?
The West wasn't planning an invasion, but destabilization by installing its own puppet in power. Ukraine was supposed to play the role of a chained dog, constantly barking and trying to bite, and when a stick was swung at it, it would run to its owner, whining, and they would begin threatening sanctions and accusing Russia of trying to beat the poor dog.

In the end, the plan didn't go as planned because Russia ignored its owner and his cries and simply began beating the dog with a club.
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>>539814185
They won't do shit other than throw Poles at the problem to meatgrind them, hoping they'll push Russians out.

That's just how these "alliances" work.
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>>539815837
>but destabilization by installing its own puppet in power.
Why would the enemies of russia preserve the power structure and put someone in power if the goal was to destabilize? Why do you need to abandon basic logic to make your theories work? Why would anyone want a destablizied nation with nuclear weapons? Lemme guess, to steal your.............
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>>539815883
>That's just how these "alliances" work.
Russian CIS "alliance" projection.
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>>539815905
Your entire basic logic is based on the fact that you're either a fool or pretending to be one.

Europe has reunited and has regained global ambitions. Every time Europe unites, it tries to invade Russia and bring it under its control. This happened under Napoleon, this happened under Hitler, and now this happens under Ursula. Because a united Europe can't exist for long while an uncontrolled Russia is nearby.

Europe expanded on empty promises and foolish optimism, and at some point these promises will be broken, and the optimism will fade. And as long as Russia exists, Western Europe won't be able to hold on to Eastern Europe by force, while a controlled Russia will be able to sustain promises and optimism for longer with cheap resources.
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>>539816253
Why would the enemies of russia preserve the power structure and put someone in power if the goal was to destabilize?

Answer, pidor. No deflection, no dodging, no rambling about Europe.

Just an answer as to why someone would choose this path.
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>>539816090
You know that's how it works, nigger lol
No German is going to die for a pole with boots on the ground. They might give them some guns, but the lives of poles are worth less than a german's in the EU politics. It's the unspoken rule.
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>>539816253
>with cheap resources.
Ah, never mind, there is the answer. So "destabilizing" isnt actually the goal, its just a word you found interesting and put in your sentence, no matter what it actually means.

It came down to
>Lemme guess, to steal your.............
No further answer required, thank you.
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>>539816358
You're interpreting destabilization as something of your own. Apparently, some kind of outright anarchy and civil war. But no, it's simply an attempt to turn Russia into another Ukraine, which can then be used to exert pressure on the rest of Asia.

The fact that your government certainly thought this would work, when it did, in Ukraine, simply shows how low its intelligence and understanding of the world is.
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>>539816465
>You're interpreting destabilization as something of your own

>destabilization/ˌdiːsteJbəlʌJˈzeJʃn/Destabilization is the act of making a system, country, or economy lose stability, power, or control.

This is the definition of destabilization.
Tell me, anon, is it easier to extract cheap resources when you lose power and control, or is it harder?
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>>539816253
>pidor spews alternative history that has nothing to do with reality, many such cases
your rulers have always allied with this "united" Europe. Alexander I was the ally of Napoleon, until he stabbed Napoleon in the back. Stalin was Hitler's ally when they both invaded Poland (Stalin caused WWII together with the nazis).
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>>539816465
>which can then be used to exert pressure on the rest of Asia.
Oh I thought its about
>while a controlled Russia will be able to sustain promises and optimism for longer with cheap resources.

Is it both or did you flip-flop?
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>>539816545
The issue isn't about price in general. It's about jurisdiction. Europe wanted all resource trade to take place under its jurisdiction, according to its laws, and only through its banks. In such a situation, resources become not just cheap, but essentially free for the European elite, who then reap all the profits by selling them to the local population.

The idea was that Europe is the main consumer, so they can set whatever terms they like. When Russia rejected these terms, sanctions, blocking deals, and other scandal-mongering and anti-Russian sentiment began, which ultimately led to the war. Ukraine isn't the cause of the conflict, but merely a consequence. Ukraine simply chose Europe in this conflict, believing it to be the winning side.
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>>539816813
>When Russia rejected these terms, sanctions, blocking deals, and other scandal-mongering and anti-Russian sentiment began, which ultimately led to the war.

I am not wasting my time responding to this nonsensical drivel. Good luck with attempting to rewrite history like the soviet union tried to do, good luck doing it with modern informational services available.
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>>539816892
good luck living like clueless retard or just like boomer.
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probably waiting till NATO/EU gets tired of supplying Ukraine, but who knows how long will that take
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>>539816319
NATO countries went to die in Yugoslavia, NATO countries went to die in Afghanistan, NATO countries went to die in Iraq. Why do you think it would be different this time?
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>>539816892
Yikes, I guess we need professional debunkers in this thread to combat all that Russian disinformation propaganda!
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>>539816813
>pidor lying about everything, many such cases.
your country got some money coming in in the 2000s, so naturally, pootin started meddling in European politics. Then he figured he could invade neighboring countries with no consequences (Georgia war 2008). You have it all backwards, pidrila. YOUR country caused all the problems with Europe.
>muh cheap resources.
What was the actual discount from the world market prices russia was selling their oil and gas to Europe? There was none.
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russians dont use gloves they wear those potato looking fur paw oven mitt motherfuckers, and fuck taking those off it took too long to get them on and they are tied at the wrist to keep the snow out.
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>>539817085
>your brain on asmongold fox news.
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>>539817170
What was the actual discount from the world market prices russia was selling their oil and gas to Europe?
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>>539815837
>rusnigger openly admits his country acked hundreds of thousands (perhaps even millions) of his own compatriots over nothingburger
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>>539810574
Russia assassinating and killing multiple british citizen on UK soil is probably part of it. Also Russia regularly spergs out about the "evil anglos", what reason does brits have to like russia exaclty?
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>>539808521
Gloves have been off since day one. They have been soundly beaten at this point.
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>>539808521
In two more weeks the russian ass will clench, suffocating the Ukrainian cock
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>>539817458
The first attack was quite small. The death toll would likely have been fewer than a thousand. But it was precisely because of this small force that Europe decided it had a chance of military victory and began actively escalating. Ukraine was very easy to mobilize at the beginning of the conflict; morale was still high, and Soviet weapons were still plentiful, enough for a large army.

Of course, this was a poor bet, because Europe never even considered the possibility of Russia mobilizing itself. Now they're trying to achieve something with pathetic terrorist attacks on civilians.
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>>539817733
Fuck your dingleberries. Everything will fucking burn. Scum.
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>>539817897

lol whats with these eternally butthurt anglos
you guys mad you didnt destroy enough of your empire in ww2?
what'd russians do to fuck your country up that your politicians havent done a better job of
you got more fear of a pakistani machete than a russian WMD
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>>539817733
>The first attack was quite small. The death toll would likely have been fewer than a thousand. But it was precisely because of this small force that Europe decided it had a chance of military victory and began actively escalating.
You got your shit pushed in while all that Europe sent was fucking HELMETS from Germany.
Fuck you and your degenerate doublethink.
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>>539817733
Russia has committed terrorist attacks on Ukraine since they started the war. You have also committed terrorist attacks on European soil. Do not think that these will go unpunished. Once russia is forced to surrender, it won't be pretty for you. The reparations you will have to pay will be immense.
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>>539809184

it's actually the US that has the faulty and unkept nukes, the russians have been renewing theirs every few years while we do it every 30-40 years



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